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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

Synthetic opiates

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- Sun, 01 Mar 2020 22:03:44 EST ULsIYTPl No.613942
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Is kratom the best legal opiate like thing available? By this I mean the only one that wont show up on a drug test? Heard of U47700 and what not any advice?
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Wesley Dommerspear - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 10:55:33 EST AYlrp4ua No.613967 Reply
>>613966
I appreciate the explanation. I think I will be okay as long as I pace myself and don't do more than once or twice a month. Opes are my favorite type of substance, but I have never been addicted to them. I have always been really careful with them even though I have done some pretty serious ones, including H and fent. I can't take anything else because I get tested anyways, and kratom is terrible. I have done over 10 grams of kratom in a single sitting and it did fuck all.
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NOD - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 21:49:44 EST ULsIYTPl No.613976 Reply
>>613942

drugs can't show up as opiate on a test so tram will show i believe
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Albert Chullylock - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 22:57:05 EST SUNa8wVi No.613977 Reply
>>613967
Tia is fine if you don't abuse it, it's only the WD/abuse potential that sucks really.

Sticking to a couple times a month sounds good, with it's short half-life that shouldn't cause issues. Just be very careful to not convince yourself "one more day wont hurt". You've been there before, you know for a fact it will. Don't get yourself addicted to tia.

AFAIK it doesn't show on tests either so you're fine there

Noob helping non-noob

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- Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:02:01 EST RBBN/9yH No.613799
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Someone dear to me is going to try to kick their heroin addiction and I want to be there to help them thru it. What can I expect, how can I make it easier, aaaaaand will he not want to have sex during this time? 😥 your suggestions, please. Thank you.
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Rebecca Toothood - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 13:16:25 EST JD/7JWNJ No.613968 Reply
>>613862
Strong disagree on the “safe” part. There are much better options to consider than poisoning yourself and possibly causing cardiac damage with a hero dose of an OTC drug. You’d be better off getting on subs and doing a short term taper if anything.

Source:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/15563650.2014.969371
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019606441630052X
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/15563650.2016.1159310
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Archie Buzzwater - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 15:47:15 EST fncd//z5 No.613969 Reply
Yea lope is terribly toxic and should be avoided, Gabapentin at 300mg-600mg twice daily is great for taking the edge off without trading one addiction for the other. Benzodiazepines, like 20mg valium a day, should be avoided to avoid trading addiction for addiction, but will really help take the edge off too.

Clonodine is an absolute godsend for taking care of the physical side, but it may be hard to get a script for.
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m - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 15:56:30 EST vgHBTjMI No.613972 Reply
>>613968
Subs cause precip WD and lope doesn't. One is available on store shelves and the other requires a connect. They're not really comparable. If you can hop on subs within just 24-48hr of using, then it's debatable whether your dependency is even that bad. When subs aren't an option and kratom won't cut it, lope is the only easy to access option.

I specifically said doses of 16mg or less/day spread out, NOT "hero" doses. It's not like you're forced to take 100mg like an idiot.

Opiate naive

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- Sat, 29 Feb 2020 16:18:17 EST oW4C6oxb No.613915
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Would it be inadvisable for someone who is opiate naive to try kratom? is this a gateway into a land that will fuck me? or is the risk pretty low?
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DTMO - Mon, 02 Mar 2020 01:24:30 EST 6GHvrNL7 No.613946 Reply
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>>613945
>Serotonin syndrome

While Tripsit and many other resource will say the combination of MDMA and SSRIs is likely to cause serotonin syndrome, in practice SSRIs (when taken regularly, once your brain has adapted to taking them) tends to make MDMA feel like an uncomfortable amount of caffeine, it's basically impossible to roll if you're on them. If you don't take them regularly then taking MDMA with an SSRI for the hell of it is a pretty bad idea and may well be risking serotonin syndrome.

The effects of LSD are reduced when on an SSRI and there is no real risk of serotonin syndrome.

>>613940
>NON-INHALED cannabis

You're really laying it on thick today. You could at least try to explain why smoking/vaping weed is more addictive (I'm guessing you mean because it's basically instantaneous in effect?) if you want this to be taken seriously.

>MDMA

For what it's worth (and by the way I'm not singling you out Dr M, when I disagree I disagree it's it's not personal) I have found MDMA to be the worst for my depression in the short term. Worth it once or twice a year but the fortnight of feeling like shit afterwards is a bit much to do regularly. Maybe the comedown is a good thing in terms of addiction though, it certainly puts me off doing it on the reg.

Also, what do you mean by "nuture-related evironment"?
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DTMO - Mon, 02 Mar 2020 01:27:35 EST 6GHvrNL7 No.613947 Reply
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>>613946
Oh ffs. If there's an admin around please remove that image I posted. I meant to use pic related.
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m - Mon, 02 Mar 2020 17:41:26 EST vgHBTjMI No.613955 Reply
>>613946

>SS

Yeah SS is usually overblown. My understanding is that the biggest risks are when you've either started SSRIs/switched SSRIs/increased dosages in the last 30 or possibly 45-60 days, when your SSRI has a very long half life and you take it daily without having reached full bioaccumulation in the last 30ish days, or when combined with a drug that directly releases serotonin, not when combined with another SSRI-esque drug, especially if the other drug functions like an SSRI but has less binding affinity.

That being said, I'm pretty sure MDMA releases serotonin directly, and does so at a significant rate. It's not like you're guaranteed SS every time, but relatively speaking, MDMA certainly has at least a moderate risk relatively. The risk outright in terms of actual chance of SS is still relatively low for those on somewhat low dose, moderate or shorter half-life SSRIs, who have been stabilized on their dose for a few months, assuming we're talking say 100mg or maybe 150mg MDMA, but it's all guess work.

>varying degrees of cannabis habit forming behavior

Surely you'd agree there's significant established literature finds concerning IV and inhaled drug use of almost any category being more mentally addictive/habit forming than slower onset routes. While cannabis might be weaker than almost any moderate or "hard" drug in this regard, anecdotally it still holds true for myself and many I know. While the mental draw to smoke/vape is extremely weak when one hasn't done it in months, those actively using tend to pseudo-fiend for cannabis much more when their primary method is by inhaling. All I can say is that after I convinced 4 friends to give it a try by using up all flower/concentrates and replacing them with oral doses, 3 of them have stopped using daily altogether, and the other uses a lot less than before. 2 of them have said they have stopped thinking about it as soon as they get home from work. In my personal life, making the switch has lead to me not consuming any THC for well over 6 or more months.

>"attacking" me
I dont take it personally. You're free to express yourself just like me. We need continual dialogue to keep this place from turning to shit.

>MDMA being a bad choice for depression
Absolutely. I wasn't suggesting it as a good choice to try. It's simply much less likely to lead to mental addiction, let alone near daily use.

>nuture-related environment
It was simply an extra indication as to the difference between our environment and our genetics. The main theme was that genetics are what matter most, and environment can always change.

Using less water in a shot cause a better high

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- Wed, 26 Feb 2020 12:46:26 EST TYzQZ0jK No.613816
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Hey all, if I use less water in my shot of heroin will I feel it better? Like I mean when I draw up the water use less water so it's thicker will that cause a difference vs it being alot of water and the solution is basically clear?
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Martin Sunningstone - Sun, 01 Mar 2020 05:22:46 EST gE8yyxax No.613932 Reply
>>613816
Can fit plenty into 1ml just filter as slowlt as you can if u dont micron

Its more how fast you gwt the shot in ur veins i.e. plunger speed than amount of watet.unless its like 100mg mst in 10ml water from sterile mst amps ect
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Archie Hannertedge - Sun, 01 Mar 2020 09:02:43 EST JD/7JWNJ No.613935 Reply
>>613845
The difference would be marginal to the point of nonexistence. The potential cost of using a dangerously thick solution or trying to jam down the plunger *vastly* outweighs any potential benefit.

Oxycodone + weed

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- Fri, 28 Feb 2020 04:40:59 EST uEHpumuQ No.613882
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/wooo/ says hi!

Had a knee surgery 2 days ago and I got some Targinic (oxycodone+naloxon) for the pain and was thinking I really wanna try one with weed. Is there any risk combining opiates and weed together?
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DTMO - Sun, 01 Mar 2020 00:48:14 EST 6GHvrNL7 No.613924 Reply
>>613882
I don't know when this board turned 50, but to answer your actual question weed doesn't increase the risk of respiratory depression. Whether it's a good combo is pretty subjective but some do like it.
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Frederick Nupperworth - Sun, 01 Mar 2020 01:00:25 EST wYewymhh No.613926 Reply
>>613924
People here are way more fucking stupid than I remember them being back in 2013-2015.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 01 Mar 2020 04:59:50 EST KnL4ajYu No.613929 Reply
>>613882
Dang, OP. /opi/ + /weed/ is godly. DO NOT abuse the combo too often. Too, take the drugs together a few times before you ever want to be in public while under the influence (i.e. high in public, but not driving).

Suboxone, tolerance, and comparison with other opi

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- Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:28:03 EST l/QqfqV/ No.613864
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I've been taking 8mg/2mg Suboxone strips fairly regularly for a couple months now, about 2-3 times a week. I cut them up into 3rds or 4ths and they still get me somewhat high.

However, I want to experiment with something stronger, so I have some 30mg oxycodone on the way. How fucked is my opi tolerance? How long should I stop use of Suboxone before I take the oxycodone to get a decent high? How long does IR oxycodone last in comparison with Suboxone?

I also have the ability to purchase H, how long does a gram typically last if insuffalated? I know almost nothing when it comes to H

sorry for many questions, thanks
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Molly Murdford - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 12:53:14 EST l/QqfqV/ No.613895 Reply
>>613881

Thank you for the answer friend. I was thinking waiting a good 2 weeks would be sufficient. Mainly concerned about the naloxone but it should be fine.
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Frederick Worthingshaw - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 17:46:08 EST IxGcrMpY No.613897 Reply
>>613895
naloxone isnt anything. like above, its the bupe you need to avoid. someone overdosing on heroin can be revived with buprenorphine because it will knock the heroin off. The naloxone is just a meme patent scam essentially.
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m - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:29:26 EST vgHBTjMI No.613898 Reply
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>>613895
The naloxone isn't even relevant in your case. Naloxone only matters when it comes to switching from a full agonist to bupe+naloxone, and even then it ONLY really matters if you're inducing micro/low doses, like ~1-2mg in particular, or I guess possibly up to 4mg bupe, and ONLY if you use it via IV, I guess IM/SubC, and to about half the extent if you snort or boof it. EVEN THEN, its impact is debatable, not experienced by everyone, and even if it is noticeable, it's relatively marginal.

Bupe displaces full agonists, which causes precip WD if you're dependent. If you induce say 0.5mg of bupe via IV (~1.5mg or so sublingual equivalent), you also IV 125ug of naloxone. That means that (making up a fake number to show my point) if say 0.5mg IVed bupe alone would normally displace say 33% of receptor sites, if basically all your receptor sites were occupied by say oxycodone, it would cause (at least on "paper," experience isn't linear) 33% of the max precip WD causable by a full bupe replacement on your receptors.

By since only 33% of receptor sites would be displaced, that means the additional 125ug naloxone would have access to additional undisputed oxycodone-activated receptor sites, allowing the naloxone to in theory cause additional precip WD. And on paper, something like naloxone/naltrexone should cause worse precip WD symptoms than bupe, assuming they occupy exactly the same quantity of receptors.

Now it gets more complicated because it's not entirely clear if naloxone truly has a subjective threshold "requirement," or if such threshold is different when combined with bupe and a full agonist in a vacuum compared to just oxy and naloxone. Either way, according to at least one source I read, just ~0.2mg naloxone IVed is capable of causing precip WD, at least without bupe around.

Supposedly something like ~8mg bupe via SL use (or in theory ~24mg if taken orally via intact tablet/film without dissolving/being kept in the mouth), ~5-5.33mg snorted/boofed, or ~2.5-2.67mg IVed occupies ~80-90%+ of one's receptors, and that's assuming no previous bioaccumulation from previous doses. The more receptors are replaced with bupe instead of say oxy, the fewer receptor sites are conveniently available for naloxone. Once you reach ~90%+ bupe receptor saturation, pretty much all the conveniently available receptor sites that were either entirely empty of exogenous opioids or occupied by oxycodone have been replaced.

So just about any receptor sites that might have had oxycodone ripped off and replaced by naloxone, would in turn be ripped off and replaced by the bupe.

>tl;dr
naloxone in suboxone only really is even possible of making a difference if you're already physically dependent on a full agonist and therefore at risk of precip WD, only if your bupe doses are below 4mg sublingual equivalent (possibly below 6-8mg to a much lesser degree), and ONLY if you snort, boof, or inject suboxone. Snorting or boofing the naloxone portion of suboxone is only capable of causing roughly half the potential marginal WD as IVing it mg for mg, and even then it's less sudden.

Even then, we're talking such marginal effects. I personally didn't notice any difference between suboxone and subutex when dependent on PST in the past, whether subbed, snorted, or boofed.

Do I have to join a secret society to find H dealers?

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- Sun, 23 Feb 2020 20:38:17 EST N4RiHE14 No.613761
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Why is finding an H/fent dealer so much more difficult than it is to find any other drug dealer? It's like you gotta be part of a secret network or some shit. I understand less people fuck with it and it has a stigma but doesn't make it easier for buyers to find suppliers.

Tips and tricks? If allowed not sure if not sorry forget I said anything.
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Beatrice Decklepun - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 10:07:30 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613851 Reply
>>613775
I've literally seen some niggas saying that M boxes from mexico look bad because of the pill presses, but they are actually oxy.
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Hannah Greenwater - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 20:07:08 EST 6q3RPJUZ No.613871 Reply
>>613761
Lurker fag here
I work at a grocery store with an h dealer he gets the cocaine for me when I need it. Some random nog on campus offered me heroin . Idk where u located but heron be everywhere

Hydromet vs tussoinex

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- Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:44:24 EST skqV9cir No.613825
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Title normally get monthly supply of tussoinex but pharmacy was all out what's the difference in these two any dosage differences normally take pussy levels of 15-20 ml of tussoinex. Just trying to chill and wat some movies and get better.
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m - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 19:06:59 EST vgHBTjMI No.613867 Reply
>>613825
Hydromet is leagues better than Tussionex, assuming you have the traditional tussionex that is liquid yet still have a weird built in pseudo-XR/ER formula that takes at least 6 or so hours to fully absorb. Hydromet is, AFAIK, always instant release.

The other two major difference is that Tussionex is typically twice as potent per ml, usually 10mg hydrocodone bitartrate per 5ml of liquid (so 2mg/ml) vs. Hydromet's 5mg per 5ml, (1mg/ml), and the fact that each contains a different "anti-abuse" compunded chemical to discourage misuse/abuse. Hydromet contains again 5mg hydro, as well as 1.5mg homatropine methylbromide, per 5ml of syrup. Tussionex contains 10mg hydro and 8mg of chlorpheniramine.

Homatropine is an anticholinergic drug, remotely similar to benadryl but not quite. In high doses it can cause dizziness, drowsiness, fever, severe hallucinations (not the fun kind), confusion, general delirium, slurred speech and clumsiness, and fast HR.

Chlorpheniramine is a first generation antihistamine. Like homatropine, it also causes dry mouth, as they're both anticholinergic drugs. Side effects from high doses include drowsiness, dizziness, confusion, constipation, anxiety, nausea, blurred vision, restlessness, decreased coordination, dry mouth, shallow breathing, hallucinations, irritability, problems with memory or concentration, tinnitus and trouble urinating.

To this day, I haven't found a medical source directly comparing the potency of 1.5mg homatropine to 4mg (or 8mg, though arguably 4mg because it's 4mg cph per 5mg hydro) chlorphenamine, or which one is likely to reach severe negative side effects first. I will say though, having had the privilege to consume roughly ~1.5-1.7 bottles of hydromet and ~0.75-0.8 bottles of tussionex many many years ago, like almost 10 years maybe, that for me, hydromet was a much more enjoyable mix as long as your tolerance is low to moderate, so say like ~30-40mg for sure, maybe 50mg max, and you only dosed once per ~24-48 hours.

Homatropine is less shitty because it does not cross the blood-brain barrier, has a duration of action well under ~60 minutes, a half-life of just ~0.5-1.5 hours, and an oral bioavailability of just 25%. Meanwhile, chlorphenamine has a half-life of 13.9–43.4 HOURS. It's like a shitty hybrid of benadryl, the worst aspects of promethazine, and doxylamine. It's just horrible. And the fact it's semi-ER/XR makes it all that much worse.

Unless your tolerance is either super low or you have access to other opioids you can mix with like ~20, maybe 25-30mg of hydro XR's worth of tussionex, so that it can be consumed in doses of ~20-30mg XR (generally speaking, half as strong but twice as long, which rapes tolerance) or less, this stuff is generally not worth it. Even just ~16-24mg of cph can try you out and make you feel wonky. Whereas with hydromet, you can easily IME consume ~20-40 or maybe 50mg hydro IR, and if you feel shitty from more than ~20mg hydro, you can easily just wait ~30-60min after the first dose and drink ~20-30mg more, repeating this process until you get a solid buzz. Since homatropine has a shorter half-life than atropine, and atropine's duration of action is supposedly just ~30-60min with a ~2hr half-life, that means waiting as little as 30min might be long enough for almost half of the first dose's homatropine to wear off.

Even if you need say 120mg hydro to get high, and can only handle 40mg per hour without feeling delirious and shitty, having to wait 2hr to dose the whole total dose is still going to hit WAY harder than taking say 120mg hydro XR, lol.

Hydromet all the way baby. I never had side effect problems until I tried consuming 60ml at once along with 3 or 4 beers.

Am I technically sober with lope?

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- Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:25:53 EST LZ2GiWn6 No.613828
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Today i woke up and decided to kick. Took clonidine, gabapentin, and Valium. My stomach was killing me though with aches. Decided to take 100mg of lope and it totally killed any withdrawal I was feeling. If I keep taking lope and then stop will i experience withdrawals again? I know it doesn't catch the blood brain barrier but i feel like I should be a lot sicker than I am and im 100% not sick at all right now and i do a gram of heroin a day.
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Phoebe Mummlepack - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 16:20:39 EST QUtz9SYl No.613857 Reply
>>613856
Damn. Are all opioid users this fuckin annoying? Does heroin just turn people into shitheads?
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Beatrice Decklepun - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 16:32:27 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613858 Reply
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>>613857
poopy poppy
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m - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:24:04 EST vgHBTjMI No.613863 Reply
>>613828
No, you're not sober. High dose/mega dose lope definitely passes through the BBB, even if it doesn't do so efficiently. You just don't feel high because your tolerance is so high. Your dependency level is indecipherably similar to what it was the day before you took lope, and could possibly have even gone up from what it was.

Never ever take over 24mg of lope in a day, period. Never take more than ~6-8mg at once, and always wait at least 30min per mg taken until you consider redosing, preferably 1hr per mg (e.g. if you take 4mg, wait 2-4hr to dose again...or if taking 6mg, wait 3-6hr etc.). If you're going to risk taking a full 8mg at once, IMO stick to doing so within ~30-60min of you waking up, or otherwise as the first dose of the day, and if taking two larger doses in a day, try to take them roughly 12 hours or so apart if you can.

Taking 100mg of fucking lope in one go will literally give you a heart attack eventually.

opiate moviess

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- Mon, 24 Feb 2020 22:51:05 EST vpYa5jdA No.613782
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What are some movies(or shows or whatever) that present a more accurate portrayal of opiate addicts? Pic somewhat related it was at least closer to reality to trainspotting.
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Shitting Fenningket - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:05:06 EST W90qOOis No.613824 Reply
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>>613793
but i bet u consume mick media without batting an eye, sheeple
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keep mad my fellas - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:59:26 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613826 Reply
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>>613824
You wish I consumed media, I only got a monitor in my house for gaming, PIRATED gaming mind you.
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Mystery pain pill

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- Sat, 08 Feb 2020 00:48:06 EST T1tlQ74y No.613533
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What are these?
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Pandazie - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 19:18:16 EST aro+f/jm No.613760 Reply
>>613751
>>613751
>>613533
>>613533
Hey Thants you are wrong my friend, Show me proof they are 50mg BRO.... the 50s are orange and are not made by this brand, This brand only makes 5 and 10mg... u are thinking of the ones that say PMS on them... DO UR HW BUD b4 getting all butt hurt that ur wrong..
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24038315
https://www.circlejerk.com/r/opiates/comments/5yr8ub/hey_just_found_these_was_told_they_are_morphine/
https://www.circlejerk.com/r/opiates/comments/8jz5s1/found_a_bunch_of_these_what_are_they/
I guess all these threads and posts from other people saying the same exact thing I said about the same exact pills are wrong tho and ur the right one... smh.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:53:02 EST +6pGU0e7 No.613820 Reply
>>61353 yeah I'm not wrong I'm confident in that. I don't have a script and the interwebs has a horrible database for showing Canadian drugs and generics. I know because I've take. The same damn pills and seen the script bottle. And if you're not op why TF do care so much.

Hey OP chime in here did you take the damn pills yet?

Tolerance

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- Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:10:32 EST t93J/3b6 No.613622
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I did a pill of Suboxone (not sure the strength) over the course of 16 hours about a day and a half ago. I've been told it blocks Opioids.
My friend gave me 150mg of Tramadol which is an opiate as you probably already know.
If I take it today would I even get high? Or should I wait a few days for the full effect?
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m - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:14:34 EST vgHBTjMI No.613797 Reply
>>613791
Well, seeing as naltrexone has a significantly higher binding affinity than bupe, it's even harder to cut through than bupe, assuming we're talking full/nearly full receptor saturation of both/either one. Anything that can't cut through bupe can't cut through naltrexone, and if it seems like it can, chances are that person has a low nltx oral BA efficiency, or has generally taken a relatively low dose. Nltx oral BA varies heavily from person to person, IIRC by as much as like ~1000% variation.
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Thomas Sullermun - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:29:53 EST gnTwNzGH No.613798 Reply
>>613797
jolly african-american
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DTMO - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 05:19:37 EST 6GHvrNL7 No.613809 Reply
>>613792
It was certainly pretty unpleasant coming off Suboxone. I've been (mostly) clean for some years now, or at least I've managed to keep my opioid use to every few months and haven't been physically dependent since. I had a year or more with no opioids before I started dabbling again.

>>613797
True, fair call. So I guess it's limited to fentalogues and stupid and impractical doses of other agonists.

Oxy with/without Acet

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- Mon, 24 Feb 2020 22:16:14 EST igDemYrO No.613778
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Hello feel-good friends,

Question, do you like to mix oxys with acetaminophen?

I'm a low tolerance user and Im trying to decide whether I should do just 15mg oxycodone, or do 10mg with 500-1000mg acetaminophen.

Thanks in advance for the wisdom.
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DTMO - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 01:34:18 EST cA7HWjuL No.613790 Reply
>>613784
I'd love to see some evidence of cumulative damage from 1000mg doses of APAP.
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m - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 09:40:14 EST vgHBTjMI No.613794 Reply
>>613790
No no, I wasn't trying to suggest daily doses of 1000mg are damaging for those that don't already have compromised livers/pre-existing conditions. I was just trying to explain to OP that, generally speaking, APAP damage is cumulative over time and the damage dealt per mg of APAP is not even close to linear. It's repeated mid to high dose acute exposure. If you read my other post(s), I mention how I personally have 0 problem taking as much as ~3500-4500mg or even maybe 5000mg without doing a CWE, as long as I have access to a few grams of NAC and I'm only doing it like ~6x or less per year, maybe as often as like once a month if it's 3500mg or less.

I received liver damage from my acute Hep A infection, and between HIV/Hep B/C infections in many addicts and potential alcohol use, it's better to be safe than sorry. This isn't damage you can typically see or feel. So many people say something like "I used to take 6g per day for almost a year and I'm fine," and while they may be "fine," it's not like they'd really know unless they got blood tests regularly. And they may be fine now, but who knows how they'll be in 30 years?
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Ernest Pickdock - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 03:24:27 EST CjSYGK2m No.613806 Reply
>>613778
No reason to do so. If using for pain the acetaminophen will enhance the pain relieving effects. It would do nothing to enhance recreational effects.

On that note if getting prescribed Vicodin for pain. Ask the dr for vicoprophen.
I have seen drs eyes kinda light and say, sure. As well some may say, I have
never heard of it. Really? It offers better feeling all around.

If injured ask for pain relievers that do not contain acetaminophen. If offered
tram, just, naw. T3s, one may say it makes you feel ill. May get syrup substitute
instead. Which dosing is difficult to estimate compared to ? amount of T3s,
So likely to get upped a dosage that doesn't, at least me make me feel crappy,
and at least actually relive pain in lower doses and feel pretty much ok.
My opinion anyway.

Help me find Research Chems

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- Tue, 18 Feb 2020 16:46:59 EST 8uyyfOu3 No.613679
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Okay, so I'm going to be getting some money soon, couple hundred dollars. I am definitely trying to buy some research chems with it.

However, I have NO IDEA which sites are reputable, and I would definitely prefer a site that lets me use a PREPAID CREDIT CARD, like a Visa Gift Card.
If not that, I was wondering if I could use a Visa Prepaid Card or regular CC to buy some BitCoin from CoinBase, and then use that to purchase the Research Chems.
I'm looking to buy an RC that's extremely similar to heroin, fentanyl, or oxydone, or some RCs that very similar to Xanax or a strong fast acting potent Benzodiazepine.
Help a junkie out.
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Phineas Blurringchare - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 03:48:15 EST 7RaDv8Xu No.613721 Reply
>>613679
I'm kinda concerned that if I answer you, I'd be helping a minor buy drugs because you described acquiring a couple hundred bucks the way I'd describe getting an inheritance
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Caroline Brogglemig - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 12:19:34 EST AYlrp4ua No.613724 Reply
>>613679
No sourcing on here. Try drug buyers guide or look for on a discord server browser for a RC server. You should really just talk to a doctor about getting Subutex/Suboxone.
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Doris Ninkinfield - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 00:24:36 EST s2F6hIG0 No.613805 Reply
>>613683
> Gemini-20
>29.33$
Damn I thought they were way more expensive literally half the price of some headshop RAW branded scale that only goes to 0.01
Buying it seems like a minefield on amazon tho with all the obvious copycats

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