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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Bump When Clean Thread

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- Thu, 18 Jul 2019 16:08:21 EST cA+802PK No.608235
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Thought I’d create this thread since the it feels weird posting in the BWN when clean. I bought some fent dope like 5 days ago but before that’s it was about 3 weeks off of all opioids. Might actually be a month. My stomach problems are still really bad and I’ve been shitting liquid ever since I stopped. No joke I just sharted while typing this out. Fuck this shit man.

Smoking weed seems to help with the PAWS but I seem to have broke my brain because all the sudden my tolerance sky rocketed and I just can’t get high. I have $50 I’m either going to use on dope or weed and it’s s 50/50 chance depending if I can manage to actually get stoned today. Pic is my new llama pipe I got for cheap.

Post here like you would like to bump while currently sober or trying to stay clean. /detox/ sucks esp for opi and the BWN has a lot of people on maintenance now.
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lol - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:25:27 EST IggaRoSW No.608314 Reply
>>608308

I got mine i believe from sharing rigs when I was homeless, doubt it was rough sex, addiction ruined my Outlook on being with people and libido so i doubt it was that. Been a long time since I've been with someone. I've heard that shit before where shit like Hep c can form in blood if you let it sit in your shot. It's quite a popular belief among the homeless and down and out round here. All I've got from doing shots I have no business doing with blood in them is sepsis and other short cotton fever like feelings.

I wish when I was out there like that more information was available and the exchange was around. Can't really blame anything else though besides myself for poor life choices and thinking it was a good idea to put a needle in myself
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Beatrice Himmersit - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 23:28:06 EST GbyAADzi No.608474 Reply
Just revisiting this site for memories from back in 2011-2012 land. Decided to keep my time on /opi/ short because the board just gets me antsy but I saw this thread. Haven't used an opioid since November 28, 2014. I primarily used heroin (IV) from 2011-2014 and lucked out hard after 3 ODs, a couple of runins with the law (luckily just from alcohol), and a trip to rehab. Wrecked a car, ruined prospects, you know the deal. Fortunately all these years later I have a degree in the soul sucking field known as accounting, have an amazing long-term relationship with the woman I am going to marry, and am overall much happier and not reckless with life anymore. I don't drive to Philly going 110 anymore, I don't use old bent needles to get high, I don't spend my nights nodding out at the casino parking garage in Chester while my dealer gambles, I don't steal, and overall I don't do the scummy shit I felt was okay when I was using this shit.

I know you all know the cost of doing business with this shit but I'm still going to funerals all these years later. Old friends turned one time bank robbers turned long-time prison inmates. People ODing and dying when their child is less than a year old. Getting their ass kicked because they thought they could outsmart people on the block.

I know nothing I say can change anyone's mind, because I read these types of posts 7-8 years ago and thought I had it in the bag, but if it gets anyone going on the right path it's worth it.
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Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 18:33:27 EST waTiBjJM No.608530 Reply
>>608308
>Hep c can’t just spontaneously exist. How on earth could you infect yourself with hep c...? It just makes no sense my dude. Just typical junkie myths.
I recently banged a chick who used to have Hep C from sharing needles, it certainly can happen.

harm reduction question about shooting

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- Tue, 02 Jul 2019 19:48:39 EST 8jvAyMCu No.607687
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I pulled up a shot from an upside down Dr. Pepper can. Sometimes they have this green dye stuff on the bottom of the can and it made the shot just a little greenish. I shouldn't shoot this should i?
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Phineas Chinnerdine - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 07:47:31 EST cbXJ46oj No.608427 Reply
I have literally never considered that the top of the can is involved in the drinking process, fuuuuuck. I've literally got a root beer in my hand as I'm reading this and realizing how straight up nasty this is.

god damn you guys for making me realize how gross this is, now I'm going to be the weirdo who cleans the top of their soda can before drinking. actually I think I'm just not going to drink out of cans anymore. also, double fuck you for not somehow telling me when I was like 8.
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Phineas Chinnerdine - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 07:48:22 EST cbXJ46oj No.608428 Reply
>>608427
oh fuck this happens to beer too. god damn it fucking burn it all down

Is q dead

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- Sat, 20 Jul 2019 10:09:45 EST TgHEOTmR No.608317
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Did Q died?
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Morphiate !!FINz0LE9 - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 21:11:23 EST zaurUfK0 No.608406 Reply
>>608401
I got all skeered when I saw these posts cause I thought they were talkin about you.
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Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Wed, 24 Jul 2019 01:00:52 EST OIpQoQ2U No.608410 Reply
>>608406
niggas really think i died just like that lmao


>>608409
been a minute since ive dropped by hope yall are doing good, might throw a post up on the BWN in a few just to catch up or whatever

sub tolerence break

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- Sun, 21 Jul 2019 16:30:25 EST ke60/Mrg No.608368
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This question has aready been asked multiply times but here goes nothing: How long should I be waiting to use ex Oxy after a10-ish bender of Sub?
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dr. m - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 17:22:21 EST 1qKXc0ke No.608384 Reply
>>608368

10ish what? 10 days of dosing sub? 10mg total over a few days? We need more info.

In general, wait between 24-96hr (1-4 full days) from a single dose of 4-8mg subs taken subligually, or 2-4mg of snorted sub, or ~2-4mg of IV sub if you want to get at least 90% of effects unblocked. Everyone is VERY different when it comes to waiting after sub use. It does seem like IV users (who IV their non-sub opioid) and especially IV fentalog users don't have to wait as long to get good effects.

If you've been using subs for more than 2 days, or at doses above 8mg, don't be surprised if you have to wait longer, or as much as a whole week. If you've been taking 4mg+/day for weeks or months, it could take between 7-14 days or possibly even longer I guess, as some people use as much as 24-36mg/day for years. Everyone is different.
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Lillian Moshsteck - Tue, 23 Jul 2019 22:35:28 EST NSOrmlNs No.608407 Reply
>>608368
fuck eric the midget that ltitle whiney piece of shit

also rip

Opium

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- Tue, 28 May 2019 17:20:59 EST Ef/gXAmD No.606477
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Hey /opi/ I recently received a bit of opium from a friend that grows their own poppies and extracts it. I'm struggling to find the best ways to consume it, smoking it out of a bong mixed with some weed works a bit, but I don't really like weed highs. I heard that I can eat it? How much do I lose if I eat it vs. smoking it? Or any tips on how to smoke it without an actual opium pipe?
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DTMO - Sun, 21 Jul 2019 13:03:53 EST WPH+dayt No.608364 Reply
>>608340
What makes you think opium is indigestible? I doubt it formed any kind of ball, fairly certain opium is pretty soluble in hydrochloric acid solution at body temperature.
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Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 03:42:47 EST iam23vqW No.608375 Reply
>>608364
Depending on the extraction route, the putty can contain a lot of residual plant matter and other contaminants. I doubt it would be enough to cause an obstruction like swallowing a kilo of poppy seeds would, but I can imagine it irritating the stomach or being difficult to digest generally.
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DTMO - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 03:57:01 EST WPH+dayt No.608376 Reply
>>608375
Even if it was 100% solid and indigestible how big a lump of putty are you eating? Toddlers shit out Lego bricks all day, no worries.

The one time I was dumb enough to eat 400g of seeds and the amount of water needed to eat 400g of seeds they swelled in my stomach and I ended up basically throwing up what felt like sand soaked in stomach acid. Really sticks in the throat.

overdose????

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- Fri, 19 Jul 2019 21:25:39 EST srJS2O5Z No.608296
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Does anyone know how dangerous it is to plug (anal administration) 20mg of oxy with no tolerance? Cause I just did that I am having tremors all over my body and im kinda scared

I had like 6 beers today but the last alcohol i had was about 5 hours prior to consumption

Also I weight 120lbs (55kg)

I administered the shit about 1 hr so I assume I'd already be dead or unconcious if I really fucked myself right??

Fuck traditional opioids im gonna just stick to my kratom from now on

Im afraid to go asleep.
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DTMO - Sun, 21 Jul 2019 12:59:34 EST WPH+dayt No.608363 Reply
>>608361
It does inhibit a fair number of them, though those 3 you mentioned are the most significant and it's still only a 'moderate' inhibitor. That said, a lot of SSRIs are 'moderate' inhibitors of 2D6 and you still definitely notice the impact with DXM.

>this means certain inhibitor like cimetidine can be completely useless when the drugs you are trying to inhibit also uses the same pathways that it inhibits

I'm not sure what younare trying to say here. Are you saying that its useless as an inhibitor or that the cimetidine's effect on stomach acid is negated? Surely you want the drug you're taking (recreationally) to use the pathway you have inhibited, otherwise what is the point?
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dr. m - Sun, 21 Jul 2019 14:09:18 EST 1qKXc0ke No.608365 Reply
>>608359

The word "unselective" in pharmacology does not mean it must inhibit every CYP450 enzyme to be called unselective. I used the exact wording I found in two different papers that talked about it. Also, I wasn't going to bother explaining the intricacies of potential benefit and consequence of every possible opioid in one post. I also specifically mentioned how it wouldn't be beneficial for pro drugs or others, specifically mentioning codeine and tramadol, but I can understand why you might have missed it.

If someone has a question about a specific drug+potentiator combo I'll answer it, but I wasn't going to spend an hour explaining which opioids would be helped and which wouldn't be. If they also missed how I specifically mentioned that pro drugs are diminished by cimetidine or wgfj, it's their loss.

I wouldn't go as far as saying its skimmed over nonsense, but I'll try to be more thorough. Also I specifically mentioned the health risks already.

Opiates do nothing for me

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- Sun, 21 Jul 2019 08:55:23 EST ZWRu8e7L No.608353
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I've read everyone's experiences with opiates. That it's a dangerous, slippery slope due to how good it feels and the risk of addiction and dependence. So when I experimented with PST and hydrocodone I thought I was in for something along the lines of "this is too good to be true."

Nope, it was a frustrating underwhelming experience. No euphoria, no bliss, just nausea, itchiness and an uncomfortable body load. Now you might say, maybe I didn't take enough. (I have absolutely no tolerance) Maybe what I took was bunk. But here's the thing, I did experience "nods." It was difficult for me to stay a wake and I was fading in and out of consciousness at times, dozing off while retaining awareness.

I definitely took enough and I experienced everything people that take more than they should experience EXCEPT any of the good parts. Nothing that felt good, amazing, or euphoric. Honestly downing a couple beers or taking a moderate dose of kratom did more for me than these little pills that some people consider a gateway into the garden of Eden.

Obviously this is a blessing in disguise since I'm definitely not on the road to addiction, withdrawal or death. But I can't help but to feel a little disappointed and bummed out that I got nothing out of it. Zero. I felt nothing, and I'll continue to feel nothing. Shit sucks.
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Hedda Blonnerstone - Sun, 21 Jul 2019 09:27:32 EST W+ZFkKVZ No.608355 Reply
>>608353
Actually it sounds like you took too much! That can happen when you dose more than you can handle - side effects overload and no euphoria, but a powerful nod all the same. If you were to experiment again, I would say less is more in your case. But in all honesty, all that stuff you hear about dependency and addiction - that stuff is crazy and will fuck your life. So maybe just leave things here and be glad Opi's haven't fucked you over. In the end, any addict will say they wish they had never found Opi's - too much collateral damage man...

Shooting Dilaudid Pills

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- Wed, 19 Jun 2019 21:06:07 EST cYBj5XIl No.607127
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What is the best way to shoot dilaudid pills? Is it okay to just crush them up & mix them with water then filter? Or is a pill filter needed, also are they water soluble?
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Passing out

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- Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:12:46 EST Vy7QRb4S No.608284
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I passed out on Opiates for the first time today. It happened out of nowhere. Is this how it feels to OD? Really don't like this feeling.

picture unrelated
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hsn - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 04:29:50 EST cA+802PK No.608309 Reply
>>608305
You can’t OD from 40mg oral morphine unless you’re a freak case of being hypersensitive to oral morph. You just fell asleep my man. Just be careful with what positions you relax on opi’s in because you can get something called Saturday night palsy which can become compartment syndrome if youre too long in that position and on a high enough dose to limit blood flow to the limbs. People have needed amputations because of this. It can happen with any type of CNS depressant.

An OD would be obvious with an oral dose. But either way you can’t feel an OD coming and 99% of people who haven’t ODed before and think they are ODinng are just having a panic attack since they always are able to type long winded posts perfectly fine lol.

But if you wake up and your ears are ringing really bad and you can barely hear, you might also have numb limbs rendering them temporarily useless, you will also have a massive headache that feels like a migraine because an OD will alsocfuck with your vision quite bad and make everything seem extra bright and make you sensitive to light. Your vision also goes to shit and for me it was like having tunnel vision for a few hours with lights being quite blinding. I also woke up on the bathroom floor with my last memory being sniffing lines on the counter above me. That’s an OD. And Dr. M I wouldn’t say thats an OD man. He was still well in the recreational range and simply just fell asleep. If I drank three beers and fell asleep I would never call that a non fatal OD.
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lol - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:29:14 EST IggaRoSW No.608315 Reply
>>608284

Myself and most others I know consider an overdose when you need to be narcand or you will absolutely die without medical intervention. In my opinion everything else is just going a little overboard but not what id consider an overdose. Definition probably disagrees with me but nodding out after a shot and waking up a couple hours later is pretty common if you're a heavy user. Still straight up blacking out is kind of strange, I'd consider seeing a doc if it keeps happening. Make sure you're drinking water and shit
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Edwin Garrycocke - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:21:17 EST Vy7QRb4S No.608332 Reply
thanks for your opinions, guys. never had this happen before so i was more bummed out to have slept through my high than anything.

>Saturday night palsy
thats fucking nightmare fuel right there

Smoking down

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- Wed, 17 Jul 2019 00:36:32 EST Ert6luo4 No.608194
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When i get heroin, i usually snort it. I've smoked in the past, but just wasn't a very big fan. Now i've got some really gummy shit and smoking or shooting is probably the best method for this bag. Any tips from those loyal to the foil? I usually just fold a square of aluminum foil in half and try to heat it up gradually, using a straw held above my dope to inhale. I can't help but feel like i'm wasting some of it.

Tips and tricks?
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Dextrolord - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 17:52:55 EST lHQ+sMcU No.608214 Reply
>>608194
So here was how I did my tar back in the day. Get a bottle of rhotos eyedrops or any small dropper bottle like that. But ur h in there and fill with slightly warm water. Shake it and generally mix it until its all dissolved as good as it will.

Now put that dropper bottle in ur pocket and hit the town. Just put a few drops up wack nostril whenever u want. If u do it right no one will even look twice and u can do it in the middle of the Damn grocery store. Or sit back and drop until ur fucked and nodded good.

Also put some drops on a cig and tear out the filter or on a bowl of weed. And smoke that after nosing some drops.

God I miss my drops sometimes. . .
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Alice Goodridge - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 01:12:01 EST CQgnrtqj No.608262 Reply
>>608194
WHY THE FUCLLK ARE YOU WASTING HEROIN????!!! SHOOT THAT SHIT!
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Isabella Piblingkack - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 01:57:12 EST WOHlwFlO No.608263 Reply
>>608194
Snorkel it or boof it, heat it up in a spoon first then snort the water or use one of those baby medicine droppers to squirt it up your bussy

Q for experienced opiate users

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- Mon, 20 May 2019 07:58:12 EST jPNtZ3fl No.606184
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For those of you who have used for years, when you come back to opiates after a tolerance break, how many days of daily use do you find you can support before getting physical withdrawal symptoms?
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what !!QJGTUbuf - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 04:44:27 EST 77ORT4ne No.608225 Reply
>>606184

i'm clean rn, but when i would break for awhile, i could detox and re-withdraw in about week each way. can't speak for anybody else, but it was usually day 5-7ish.
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dr. m - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 14:55:17 EST 1qKXc0ke No.608230 Reply
>>606184

When I was like 3-6mo clean from PST, just two days of consecutive mega dosing was capable of causing WD. 3 days of dosing moderate doses was more than 50-60% likely to cause WD, and 4 days of consecutive moderate dosing all but guaranteed WD.

Bear in mind PST is basically a crude Methadone though, so I'd expect pure morphine so allow an extra day or two before the same WD effects.
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Rebecca Webblefoot - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 00:51:54 EST CxL+J0EU No.608260 Reply
2 days. I might even say you will feel sick after one use.

does kratom block heroin

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- Thu, 18 Jul 2019 03:15:06 EST Tr7vQ+lJ No.608224
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I do like 10g or more of kratom a day and i got some heroin today and didnt get very high from it if at all, did i get bad gear or does kratom block opiates like suboxone does?
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dr. m - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 14:51:49 EST 1qKXc0ke No.608229 Reply
>>608224

It appears that it's very likely that not only does kratom raise cross tolerance, but also likely does have at least partial agonists and possibly full on antagonists at the MORs that block at least some of the effects of other middle of the road affinity opioids like the condones and presumably morphine/heroin. I've never actually studied the MOR binding affinities of common opioids...just Narcan, bupe, naltrexone, and genuine fentanyl hcl.

I just stole the following copy pasta from a circlejerk poster who seemed to know their shit and had a good quality posting history. Bear in mind I couldn't access the actual paper quoted, and yes I actually tried.

...[So the different alkaloids do different things this is from two papers: Mitragynine and the oxidized analogue 7-hydroxymitragynine, are partial agonists of the human mu-opioid receptor and competitive antagonists at the kappa- and delta-opioid receptors. Mitragynine pseudoindoxyl and its corresponding corynantheidine analogs show promise as potent analgesics with a mechanism of action that includes mu opioid receptor agonism/delta opioid receptor antagonism and mitragynin pseudonoxl antagonizes kappa.

The following is taken from a table testing agonism or antagonism with their EC50 and IC50 values. Number in brackets are antagonism, all values are in micromolar concentrations:

mu kappa delta
mitragynine 0.339 ± 0.178 [8.5 ± 7.6 (1.4)] [>10]

paynantheine [2.2 ± 10] [>10] [>10]

speciogynine [5.7 ± 2.8] [>10] [>10]

speciociliatine [4.2 ± 1.6] [>10] [>10]

7-OH 0.0345 ± 0.0045 [7.9 ± 3.7] [>10]

I cannot access the paper to see the numbers for Mitragynine pseudoindoxyl.

Pretty much you want nanomolar concentrations as when you start getting above 5 micromolar the effect is pretty weak and not as relevant. So mitragynine is a potent agonist of mu at 339 nanomolar, but not a significant antagonist at kappa and delta. Paynantheine and speciogynine have modest antagonism at mu, but about 100X less potent than mitragynine agonism. 7-OH has the most potent agonism at mu with 34.5 nanomolar and modest antagonism at kappa. If I remember, I saw the paper on Mitragynine pseudoindoxyl and it was a potent enough for mu agonism and kappa and delta antagonism but I don't know the numbers.

Edit, sorry can't get the table to format correctly, but you can see the numbers for mu first, kappa second, delta 3rd.]


So, first off I honestly don't know what IC50 and EC50 values represent or how they're related. I assume it's a different type of measurement than Ki affinity values.
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dr. m - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 14:58:46 EST 1qKXc0ke No.608231 Reply
>>608229

So yeah it appears that 7-OHM is the most likely culprit because it's a partial agonist and appears to have a pretty high binding affinity. There could possibly be others as well.
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hsn - Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:58:31 EST cA+802PK No.608234 Reply
>>608231
7-OHM is found in such little concentrations that it is unlikely to have any kind of effect. My best guess is that mitragynine’s antagonistic effects are more apparent in certain people if they are hypersensitive to it like with tramadol and it’s seizure causing effects. Personally I’m one of those who are very sensitive to the SNRI effects. It’s a weak mu and delta antagonist but like I said I suspect certain people are just more sensitive to it just like with anything. If this was such a problem, people would be getting thrown into precipitated withdrawal from the kratom competing with your last dose the same way bupe can. I just suspect it’s a small percentage of people like OP who experience this if for some reason it isn’t due to other unknown factors like dope quality and tolerance.

IC50 has to do with how much of of an inhibitor is left after 50% of its max concentration. EC50 is a 50% change in either direction.

This fella put it nicely
“If considering simple receptor-ligand interactions, the IC50 is used to describe the concentration of an inhibitor that results in a half-maximal inhibition of a response (i.e. the concentration that reduces a response to 50% of its maximum). That maximum response being inhibited is due to the action of something else (typically an agonist for the receptor of interest). The EC50 is conceptually similar although it is more inclusive. EC50 can be used for both the inhibition of responses (by an inhibitor) but it is more commonly used to describe the stimulation of responses (such as with an agonist). EC50 is the concentration that results in a 50% change in response, in either direction.“

PSA; Foil Smoking Method

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- Mon, 15 Jul 2019 08:42:26 EST dttlF/OR No.608137
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Hey /opi/, I see so many posts about people smoking off of foil, and it pains me to see so many flat, crumpled and uncrumpled, newspaper lookin Tinfoil.

So I'm gonna post this little tidbit, it's my method for smoking with foil.
When I still used, I used to teach this to every friend/dealer/etc that smoked, too many times I've seen black soot smeared on someone's arms/fingers/face!

  1. Tear off a nice big square piece of foil for yourself

2. Fold the edges over themselves, create a poor excuse for a lunch tray, or a picture frame, this'll make the edges less prone to bending when you apply heat.

3. Find something with a clip or similar. A nice sturdy pen that won't melt is the best option. You can also use Alligator clips, bobby pins, anything you can hold onto that won't heat up significantly or melt when it's heated.

4. Put the pen/whatever ,along the edge of the frame, at an acute angle OR like the big dipper, at one corner of the frame you've created.

5. ???????????
6. PROFIT

TL;DR?
>Squared piece of tinfoil
>Fold edges over themselves to buff from heat
>Pen with a clip or anything you can use as a handle
>Attach said handle perpendicular to an edge, or away from it like a thin handle.
>Straw/whatever the fuck in mouth, one hand on the handle, one hand on your lighter.
>Enjoy your day and/or night!

If you find this method more effective than holding it with your hand or putting it above a candle or other heat source, hooray!
If you don't think it's effective then; ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Ebenezer Trotstock - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 01:54:02 EST Ert6luo4 No.608196 Reply
anyone got advice? how far away should i hold my lighter from the bottom of the foil? do you fold it to double the thickness or leave it as "one sheet"? i got some gummy dope and it's lousy for snorting, but i wanna make sure i get this smoking technique proper before i just torch all my shit
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David Cleshdale - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:33:27 EST 4+gGcb71 No.608207 Reply
>>608137
Or you can use a torch and a Nectar Collecter like they use for thc Dabs. Use H in place that way you're not smoking off foil and furthering the damage you're doing to yourself. Best travels

Difficulty SWALLOWING While High

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- Tue, 16 Jul 2019 08:12:43 EST HtQLHF8I No.608165
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I've been using these pressed fentanyl pills lately and the latest batch has an annoying side effect which is that I find it impossible to swallow while even mildly intoxicated. By swallow I just mean like swallowing my own saliva while I'm sitting there. I have to keep liquid next to me and take a sip every time I need to swallow which isn't really a bad thing it's just annoying. I've had this effect once in the past with some fent/dope mix before.

I found a study that reported remifetnanil causing this effect. Maybe this is the fentalogue used in the fake pills I got and that was cut in the dope I got a long time ago.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01191645

Does any one have experience with this side effect? I'm guessing it's not just limited to this chemical, but if anyone has experience with this one in particular too I'd like to hear it. I'd really like to figure out a solution to this if possible.
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lol - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 10:13:50 EST IggaRoSW No.608169 Reply
>>608165

I always thought this was just a somewhat uncommon side effect. When I was going balls to the wall this pretty much always happened where I would have difficulty swallowing. All types of different opis from pharmaceutical to street heroin too.
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Ernest Blackspear - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 15:23:45 EST 8N957kdV No.608171 Reply
Yeah I've had this with legit regular Opi's in the past. At the time my tolerance wasnt too high and I kinda thought it might have been down to my body not handling the side effects of the histamine release that can go with Opi's. I say histamine, because if you've ever had an allergy to something before in a sober state, I know the dry throat and difficulty swallowing are symptoms of that...
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Thomas Panningfug - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:30:44 EST gAxST/Yl No.608206 Reply
>>608165
The obvious solution is to quit taking those pressed fentanyl pills, lmao. Find something else you dumbass, quit taking a drug that makes you uncomfortable enough it ruins the high you're chasing in the first place. Taking a drug that does that is a waste of your time and money.

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