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Methadone, using opiates while on methadone possible?

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 01:49:30 EST osznr6gK No.609477
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I've been on 110mg of methadone for about 8 months, and I'm wanting to use opiates. If I use other opiates, will I feel any effect at all? How long do I need to stop taking methadone before I can feel any effects? Anyone have any experience with this?
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Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:18:26 EST 7Y8izlLY No.609577 Reply
PM stands for Pain Management however it is not by any means a pill mill as dr. m claims here >>609575

For a long time now you have to go to PM if you want recurring scripts. The DEA also keep putting out new regulations that make it harder for current patients and almost impossible to get new patients in. My PM doc has a huge waiting list and he certainly isn't one to just hand out drugs.

Real deal pill mills are few and far between these days.
dr. m - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:31:58 EST 1qKXc0ke No.609579 Reply

I just meant it in the sense that their primary purpose is being an controlled substance ATM machine with a side order of weird stuff like nerve shock implants and a bunch of other pain killing methods. My psych is basically a pill mill in disguise, as I get 90x80mg Subutex and 60 or 90 (was 90 this month but we will see long term) 30mg Adderall IR each and every month.

Personally I consider my psych a pill mill because simply saying "I used to be scripted Adderall," even while providing absolutely zero evidence, was enough to start s permanent script of it. As for the whopping 24mg of Subutex per day, all I needed was two positive piss tests that supposedly showed the highest ever urine opioid concentration that said suboxone psych doc has ever encountered in his 20+ years of practice. I wouldn't be surprised if I could push him for even 32mg of subutex/day if I fed him some bullshit about how my 1 year "sobriety" date is coming up soon and cravings are flaring up bad for the first time in several months.

Sorry I confused the idea of a pill mill being a doctor who scripts controlled shit 24/7 for a living in a legitimate and government supervised way, and the definition of pill mills being more of the situation I listed above with my current psych.

Hell, I would be getting 90mg Dexedrine IR/day instead if I wasn't paying out of pocket with no insurance, and said psych doc even once wrote me a script for actual Desoxyn, which is medical methamphetamine. Apart from the absurd price, the only reason why I never actually got it was absolutely no pharmacy within 20min drive was either able to actually order it and get it in stock in a reasonable time, or even willing to fill the script in the first place seeing as my state's script database shows them I'm on near-max daily dosage of Subutex and a lot of other semi-good stuff.
Charles Shakegold - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:21:10 EST SnO3ZRr8 No.609619 Reply
>or even willing to fill the script in the first place

I hate when your pharmacy thinks they know better than your doctor.

Fresh Pods

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- Thu, 18 Jul 2019 23:24:07 EST Qas/wbXX No.608257
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I took a bunch of pap somni poppy pods, fresh and bleeding latex, from a public park's garden. What should I do with them?
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Thomas Gennerwick - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:48:05 EST 6YEguU42 No.609583 Reply
Idk anyone from the states or Canada unfortunately and I feel uneasy about making an internet friend to send them due to the nature of what I'm attempting. But yeah if anyone with UK seeds can try this out that would be awesome!
Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:33:12 EST 7Y8izlLY No.609592 Reply
Yes, if you just cut the stem and let it dry out then you get the same amount as doing what I said here: >>609520 (actually you are likely to get a little bit more out of just cutting fresh pods and drying them but only very slightly) but you will only have pods instead of having dried pods, latex, and seeds to either use, grow, or trade for other seeds and things which is what I do with seeds and how I've gotten most of my active plants and prints.

If you are picking poppies from a moderately visible area or something like that then absolutely, yes, that is the best method.

I grow a lot of active plants (some of which are illegal) and fungi as you can see from my post here: >>608855 as well as a large garden and non-active plants and live in the middle of nowhere with a large amount of land so, for me, I'm not really worried about the police as if they show up and are where they can actually see the poppies growing or being prepared I'm already majorly fucked.

I honestly don't think its a ton of risk for home growers whether indoors or out as long as you take proper precautions and I would personally rather have them all separate than just the dried pods/stems/seeds/latex all together.
Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:45:48 EST 7Y8izlLY No.609593 Reply
They are easy to find if you have a botanical interest in them. Just make sure you get P. Som. although I grow Cali poppies as well for a couple tinctures. My recommendations are here: >>608817

Also, I am unsure how they will do under what is essential a closed humidity dome. IME growing medium and conditions, especially early on, are quite important.


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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:40:43 EST tCfXoHus No.609497
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opi noob here how many mg for a good and safe first time
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Dextrolord - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:10:59 EST t9+obISS No.609541 Reply
How much do u have on hand?

I personally agree with Katz that u should take 5mg to taste test it so to speak. Lots of people really like hydrocodone but too much will make u nauseous. Be careful of how much acetaminophen you're taking with it if they r ur standard hydro 5/325 pills.

But ya take 5mg see what it does, you should feel a slight buzz if ur not oversensitive or allergic, and then u can take more to find out ur ideal dose. You can always take more but never less ya know?

I personally fall into the 5ish% that doesn't metabolize hydro correctly so it really doesn't do Jack shit for me. Seriously even before I fucked up my tolerance with harder stuff I was taking 40mg or more just to get a slight high off em. Point is everyone is different
Nigel Sadgemotch - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:10:53 EST SnO3ZRr8 No.609568 Reply
how hard is it to take one pill and if you dont feel the desired results to take more?
dr. m - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:29:09 EST 1qKXc0ke No.609569 Reply

Take at least 10mg. Honestly for a good time I'd suggest taking 15mg. Don't take more than 20mg your first time. Just simply swallow the pills. 4 or less tablets is only around 1000-1300mg of tylenol, so there's no need to extract it.

Enjoy OP!

Nucynta (tapentadol hcl)

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 20:37:27 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609073
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Anyone ever try this opioid? I was just prescribed instant release 50mg Nucynta (tapentadol hcl) today after having a less than ideal few months being on tramadol. Because I have multiple benzo and z-drug prescriptions, doctors are weary to prescribe any classical opiates for my chronic back pain.

The little research I have done indicates the drug is stronger than tramadol and has much less of an effect on serotonin, but was also created by the Ultram (tramadol) manufacturer. Multiple physicians and both pharmacists I spoke with talked to me about not combining the drug with tramadol hcl, which I still have a script of, and being careful with the drug and benzos. Literally, three fucking health professionals explained the increased chance of death via respiratory failure.

The drug has only been on the market since around 2008, so my pain doc fucked me. No generics exist yet as the patent is still active. Shit was $85 for 20 x 50mg tablets even with commercial insurance.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:51:27 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609492 Reply
My thoughts exactly. I do not see any reason to not at least try a new opioid—unless someone is trying to stay sober or is allergic.

I meant fucking up in terms of the cost of my prescription. I found out a couple of days later I could pick up a coupon, so I assume my doctor is getting a kick back from the drug company, to get each script for only $20.

>You shouldn't mix downers
I've been on benzos for just over 7 years now and I think I've had a muscle relaxer script for around 6 years. And, I've had scripts on/off for opiates since I was a young child (mostly codeine in the winter and hydrocodone every year or so for dental shit or injuries from skateboarding).

>Definitely interested in Tapentadol feedback though!
I cannot lie, the drug is a lot more impressive than I anticipated. However, staggering the drug is pointless (unlike tramadol). Tapentadol feels kind of like an odd mix of hydrocodone and tramadol. The drug is markedly less stimulating than tramadol and has some warmth associated with the initial come up. I would say in terms of an opioid that is so similar to tramadol, tapentadol feels more like a classical opiate with a tad bit more stimulation than oxycodone. However, the drug is still weaker than morphine so there's that.

How long have you been on the 50mg ERs? When I get my next script for IR tapentadol I would like to potentially increase the dosage to 100mg tablets. Too, I eventually need to transition to morphine IR or ER if not hydrocodone. Something stronger is necessary as my tolerance to tapentadol hcl is already noticeable after only taking the drug 4-5 days of the last week. Typically tolerance does not increase so quickly for me.

Snorting oxycodone

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:48:09 EST 7v2ps8UP No.609491
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So I've got some leftover oxycodone (instant release)from my kidney stones, 10mg each instant release. Would crushing em up and snorting em do anything better rather than just swallowing the whole pill?
Pic unrelated
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Dextrolord - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:16:15 EST t9+obISS No.609542 Reply
My experience with oxy is oral is a better ride, not as high of a peak but smoother come up and comedown. Snorting the same amount will get me slightly higher but last maybe 50-75% as long

My personal regimen with oxy was take a large dose oral and then snort a medium or heavy dose at the same time. I'd be speaking of the snortskies when the oral started hitting and then be still peaking off the oral when the sniff started wearing off.

Be careful, know ur body, don't take too much
Roxy One - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 15:01:51 EST gybLNlw0 No.609544 Reply
I sometimes insuf maybe 1/4-1/2 of a 10mg oxy if I have a bunch (at least 4) just for the ritual and insta hit. You snort all of it, it's just a waste lasts for like 30min-hr as oppose to 4-6hr if ya just swallow them. Al itt are right.
Archie Gaggleway - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 15:10:07 EST SnO3ZRr8 No.609546 Reply
>Pic unrelated
you sure about that?

Feeling Asian while on Opi

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- Tue, 13 Aug 2019 20:19:55 EST nS942RSB No.609372
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Caucasian ex-user here. Did you ever feel 'asian' while doing classic opis? Like some kind of chinaman?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:33:06 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609490 Reply
Eh, I guess when I had easy access to opium in high school. But uh, nah. I am Hispanic and cannot say I have ever truly felt "Asian" when using /opi/. Maybe there needs to be some additional research on classical opiates, even opium in specific, and perceptions of self.

Incoming It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia clip: https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/3c25ba04-cd01-4e65-b28e-2c5eb9ec8c6a
Shitting Cossleway - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:02:17 EST cbXJ46oj No.609512 Reply
I was sure this was going to be about how squinty your eyes get when you're in that half-awake semi-nod dream state. Shows what I know

Urinary Retention

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- Tue, 23 Jul 2019 20:05:24 EST RRzRTB4Z No.608403
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Fuck /opi/ after making maybe 20g of dried pods as tea I can't pee anymore, I can't seem to relax the muscle.

What causes this? Like in which receptors cause what and how?

What do you do to counteract this? It really spoils the high for me.

Happy nodders
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:28:27 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609489 Reply
At least in my experience, various opioids have differing degrees of impacting urinary retention. For me, kratom and prolonged usage of tramadol are pretty gnarly for urinary retention. I mean, shit, I would wait 10+ minutes trying to piss with zero luck. Historically, I have had zero issues with hydrocodone, codeine, and morphine in short- and long-term periods of usage (e.g. prescriptions for weeks or months of daily usage). Oxymorphone has never given me trouble, but higher dosages of oxycodone (e.g. 30mg instead of a typical 10mg dosage) have caused me some problems with pissing. Tapentadol has given me mild urinary retention problems, but it is negligible.

>What causes this?
I would assume because of the effect of /opi/ causing intestinal problems (i.e. constipation) that bladder problems are rather common as well based on how they affect the body.

>What do you do to counteract this?
Just stand and wait or sit if I get tired of standing. Run some water in the sink. Try to relax. Extra stress likely is not going to help.

Lydia Himmlewirk - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:50:38 EST 7fJj6h3O No.609498 Reply

Morphine is actually one of the more urinary retentive opiates, its just you took low doses
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:15:17 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609500 Reply
I would definitely say this is case. The most morphine IR I have taken was 45mg along with benzos, which in the big scheme of opiates is not a high dosage. However, I noticed an incredibly uncomfortable level of being unable to piss about 50% of the time I combined morphine IR and hydrocodone with dosages ranging from 15mg morphine + 5mg hydrocodone up to 30mg morphine + 20mg hydrocodone.

Expired fentanyl

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- Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:32:49 EST ATf1DnkU No.609450
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I've been wanting to try fentanyl for a while mostly because of its notoriety, but where I live fentanyl is rare. There are shit pills of oxy, xanax, you name it that have fentanyl in them, but fentanyl as fentanyl is rare. After a long search I managed to find a source: a super shady junkie dude with Abstral 200ug pills. I was sceptical, but the packages were intact and the transaction was smooth.

I went home and split the pill into quarters since according to Psychonautwiki and Tripsit.me 200ug would kill a opiate naive person twice or thrice. I put a quarter piece under my tongue and let it dissolve completely. Then I swished saliva around for a minute and swallowed. I waited for half an hour, but nothing happened. Then I waited for another half an hour, crushed a second quarter and insufflated it. Nothing happened.

I started to get really sceptical and checked the packaging. "Abstral (R) 200 ug Sublingualtablette Kyowa Kirin Ltd" - seems right. But wait... "ExP: 02 - 2019." It's August now. The pill expired six months ago. Can fentanyl go bad in such a relatively short time? I've had codeine pills from the last decade working just fine. Apparently that doesn't apply to fentanyl.

Did I do something wrong or did I just get ripped off?
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dr. m - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 20:17:13 EST 1qKXc0ke No.609469 Reply

200ug of pure fent isnt killing anyone on it's own OP. I think you're thinking of 2mg, of which 2mg of fentanyl hcl supposedly will kill roughly 50% of the entire population of opioid naive volunteers. Though it's more like 2.5mg for the USA, since we're statistically more obese than almost all of the world.

OP I'm not sure if that magic 2mg amount that's repeated ad nauseam is 2mg used orally, sublingually, transdermal, nasaly, or via IV.

All I can say is that if you have real properly dosed fentanyl, you should either snort it (preferably in a small solution filtered by a a Q-tip, a cigarette filter, or something similar to remove most of the binders that get in the way of absorbing fentanyl nasally or rectally) via solution, boof/plug it, IV it, or simply just give it to someone else who is willing to consume it one of those three ways.

Nasal efficiency for fentanyl is amazingly high, maybe like 80-90% last time I checked (the number that comes to mind for me is 89% BA). There also isn't as much of a rush from injection like real heroin has. Assuming 89% efficiency for nasal is true, then crudely filter it using some cotton (get the cotton wet first so it doesnt steal any active goodies), "snort" the very small volume solution (like 0.25-1ml) split between both nostrils, and then either sublingual the without filler residue, or add some water to the container holding the leftover filler residue, swirl it around, and swallow it.
Killington - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:57:17 EST SrFvgnZz No.609485 Reply
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What everyone has said in this thread is pretty much good advice. As someone who used cut fent powder (marketed as fent) i only ever snorted it and would never think of eating it or holdjng the nasty shit under my tongue. If yiu snort it you should feel it hit within no more than 5 minutes.

Also psychonaut is a great resource but they are rather conservative in their dosages, presumabky for safety
Alice Sullypure - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:58:21 EST B0nXruVd No.609493 Reply
You're right. I managed to get a good nod going by following this advice:

>All I can say is that if you have real properly dosed fentanyl, you should either snort it (preferably in a small solution filtered by a a Q-tip, a cigarette filter, or something similar to remove most of the binders that get in the way of absorbing fentanyl nasally or rectally) - -

Thanks everyone. nb

Learning experience

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- Thu, 15 Aug 2019 02:36:46 EST yawjxMcx No.609431
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I live where bupre is the most available opi and its like 9:15 now, so lets share. Last night I found a bag with small piece of foil in it. I remembered that I lost a small piece of suboxone last winter and sure enough it was just that. I wondered if it still worked, also I havent touched any opioids in months so obviously I cut myself a piece. And another after a few hours.

Somehow I figured out how to get free porn on my Smart TV using IPTV. That was what I did for the next six hours, watching porn and masturbating if I could get my dick to stay up. It started with some softcore and gradually got worse as I shifted through the catalog. I think Swallowed 2 was when I really started feeling sick. I thought water would help but I ended up vomiting everything out in the kitchen sink. When I got back I couldnt even look at the TV, I just quickly turned it off and went to bed.

I didnt even cum. Also I dont want to do buprenorphine ever again, I just flushed the last of it down the toilet. And lastly, all that sick hardcore shit I watched feels even more disgusting than before. Now, I feel actually quite okay. Just wanted to share.
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Hamilton Pockhood - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 23:42:12 EST vZduh+yc No.609474 Reply
Lol I remember when I used to try jerking off while high and I’d always just fall asleep with my dick in my hand, wake up with it limp, get going again, and then fall asleep. Rinse and repeat.
Alice Nundlepun - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 23:52:24 EST jzzuS8hK No.609475 Reply
Lol sounds like me on coke, except the moaning and other porn sounds haunt me even when I turn it of and when I wake up my butthole hurts and everything that would fit into it smells like ass and all of my muscles are sore. Why do I never get horny on opis?

Injecting Sugar

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- Wed, 07 Aug 2019 12:57:54 EST cq1hAyJa No.608975
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No I’m not asking if I can shoot sugar. I bought a generic 30mg hydromorph (old ones with the beads) and it looks like someone added a bit of sugar to the bottom to make it look more full. It’s probably a 24, guy took out a six for himself and replaced it with some sugar so I wouldn’t notice.
Well I didn’t notice
Until I already busted the pilland got it into the cooker.
So now I’m worried that some sugar got into the cooker with it and I’m just wondering how safe that is to shoot. I’ve done some googling but nothing really definitive comes up.
I should be fine, right?
Wouldn’t be more than a pinch
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 03:21:49 EST yvFqoVqH No.609290 Reply
shooting a little sugar is fine.
I've had to shoot with coca cola or ice tea before because I had no acid for the heroin base. Of course that had sugar in it too. While that's not recommended injecting sugar is actually fine.
Edward Brookham - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:40:32 EST bNGcIgMi No.609396 Reply
Sugar (dextrose,etc) is one of if not THE most common adulterants added to dope. There are many different forms of it, but I have personally witnessed the large scale adulteration of dope with a form of sugar. If it is like granular table sugar it might be a tiny bit different, but I doubt it. So yeah, dextrose/lactose/soluble powders like that are very common cuts.

In other words, yes it is no more or less safe than the act of shooting up itself.
DTMO - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 16:13:32 EST iwPQzXLg No.609457 Reply
I thought calling you a shill for big insulin was as good as saying I'd been taking thw piss.

Oh, actual diabetes related conspiracy (ok, there's little to no conspiring, but fuck you): people who take Metformin regularly live about a decade longer. The data is there


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- Mon, 05 Aug 2019 09:26:57 EST kHSlTKN0 No.608827
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Best music to nod out to imo
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Howlin Wolf - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 12:18:26 EST nh2AEG+6 No.609212 Reply
Dude although the radio sucks, everyonce in a while they have to play good stuff.
It's just standard odds-ratio
hsn - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:56:53 EST cA+802PK No.609449 Reply
Dang I missed your post completely. But yes I listen to Ramirez he’s one of my favorites out of the g59/buffet boys squad. Lol ugly mane I couldn’t get into but tons of my friends loved him. One of my old friends actually sold a beat to lil B lol.

I’ve been solely listening to hip hop lately but do listen to about everything. Was a scene kid faggot so a lot of death core and hard core stuck with me among plenty of gems. Lately I’ve been exploring other countries music like African Scream Contest and CBC Band. One is African the other Vietnamese. Some dope Thai pop from the 70s like the mix up from Sublime Frequencies.

Should I assume my dumb decision is H?

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- Thu, 15 Aug 2019 05:19:07 EST VkyM8MkQ No.609441
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Found some powder in a users room when I visited a house I had to do something at. Took a gel cap filled with chunky white powder which I assume is scramble H. And some small thin glas vial with a plastic topper on it not sure what it was but pretty sure it was some opiate as we. Been binging lil bumps every couple hours. Feels like an opiate. Tried to test em with my mandelin kit. But I think its bad due to its a couple years old. Liquid is a nasty brown color now.

Feels like an opiate but I havnt been going to full nods but I cant keep myself asleep for more more than a couple hours. On east coast by baltimore. I seem fine and high, itchy and tiny pupils. Should I assume its h?


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- Sat, 10 Aug 2019 12:35:12 EST nh2AEG+6 No.609215
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Crank up the murder-ballads and notice you're withdrawal symptoms are about to murder you too... So is Willie it's always Willie in these songs...
Howlin Wolf 20x7 - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 12:40:43 EST fEP+GH4/ No.609218 Reply
Already drank that for you, check it again!
The blind reverend Gary Davis - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 12:44:11 EST nh2AEG+6 No.609219 Reply
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As American as ragtime and jellybeans, but psychedelic too
DTMO - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 04:43:19 EST iwPQzXLg No.609437 Reply
"Your", the fuck is that apostrophe even meant to be replacing?
...and then he wrote Train Coming Into the Station Blues and then he wrote Train Station Blues... And then he wrote Blues Train Blues...

Precipitated Withdrawal

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- Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:39:16 EST 9i5EtVn1 No.609421
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In theory if I put myself into PWD and then used to get rid of it, I should be able to take bupe again with no issues correct? Now that it is actually in my system it should not cause the effect again.
DTMO - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 03:14:16 EST iwPQzXLg No.609435 Reply
If it's still in your system you should be fine I'd guess. I never really copped PWD too badly when i was on bupe, lucky I guess. Even when I did get them it would really only last ~20mins.
Augustus Drundlelock - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 03:18:41 EST fap9MR15 No.609436 Reply
i wouldnt risk it, even if you can use to help with the pwd you will still feel like shit. wait until you are deep into regular wds.

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