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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Fent?

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- Thu, 04 Jul 2019 20:10:49 EST nobweYpQ No.607755
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Grey heroin likely fent? Dude said to be careful with it.
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dr. m - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 15:10:41 EST 1qKXc0ke No.607908 Reply
>>607834

Is pure domestic fentalogues that hard to find on the DNMs now? If I was in your position I'd just order a half gram of 99% pure fentalogue, get a tiny safe for it, only handle it with a dust mask and gloves, and make volumetric solutions before filling a nasal spray. It sounds 30x cheaper and safer than buying such fake dope.
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hsn - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:41:44 EST cA+802PK No.608030 Reply
>>607908

It’s impossible ever since they were schedule 1’d. You can find sources in China but it’s expensive. Most fent now is illicit and the stuff that isn’t is coming from China (and not to the US)

East of Scripts?

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- Sun, 07 Jul 2019 02:33:18 EST 7Teze97q No.607840
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How is it that you always hear about professionals having such an easier time getting legit scrips for opiates? Doctors/lawyers dont seem to have an problem walking in and getting a note for some pharmaceuticals. Do they just know what to say? More credible?

It's not like their "back pain" would be worse than any other person's, right? So how do they get it so easy?
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Not getting noticeable effects of opioids

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- Tue, 09 Jul 2019 23:08:04 EST uUQubi++ No.607943
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So I don't really come here or anything but just wanted to see if you guys know anything about this thing that's bugging me.
I've never really had a "great experience" from opioids, at best they've felt like a more euphoric benzo to me.
I've done oxy a few times at different doses (15, 20, and 30) a couple times, and I also had a small sample of heroin that I was snorting (I had shared some of this stuff with a opioid user friend and he said it was good quality). The issue is that I either get almost completely unnoticeable effects, or I'm falling asleep while my whole body itches, my head spins and it feels like I'm gonna vomit. Also never got the sense of "everything's going to be okay" that people report from opiods.
Any other opioids I could look into that might not have this problem? because I really need help forgetting about my shitty life
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Eliza Crendlebanks - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 07:19:12 EST tnjAgdYk No.607968 Reply
>>607967
Well I said it doesn't make sense but that's how it worked for me. No need to be an asshole, maybe you should get high instead?
Nb

how many gs

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- Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:41:39 EST t06hj+0R No.607331
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How many gs do I need for tea. Pic related is 1kg
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torn rotator cuff

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- Sun, 07 Jul 2019 12:55:06 EST 06CPSsT0 No.607849
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sooo i did a fuckton of /opi/ in high school, got my shit together and been sober for a few years now. got my shit going good, studying well and on my way to a good career in accounting.

going in for a torn rotator cuff surgery, doc is giving me 120 percocet to go home with. no way in fuck ill even use half of that. i know this might trigger you guys, but should i just throw the rest out to avoid the risk of addiction? i dont even want to find someone to buy it off me tbh - i know one guy who would, and hes on methadone. i dont wanna fuck his shit up.
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dr. m - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 02:12:09 EST 1qKXc0ke No.607862 Reply
>>607849
Seriously, find a friend or relative who can stash at hit away for you. You've gotta be socially blind as a bat to not realize at least someone somewhat related to you might actually get good use out of them.

Don't you realize 60 of them is worth up to $300? You could easily get $150-200 for 60 of them in bulk, and that's assuming they're only 5mg.

Also, I assure you you're friend on methadone maintenance can't even get high off these joke pills anymore without his liver exploding. Meanwhile if you sold 60 of the 5mg percs for ~$150 to him, he could flip them all for $300 total and use that profit money to help pay for his methadone.

Lastly, don't you dare dump them in a toilet. Drugs are destroying our ecosystems by infiltrating our waterways, and they're not super healthy for us either.

Stop wasting such a quality tool that so many people in society end up killing themselves over it because their script got cut. Be thankful and pay it forward to someone for half the retail price ($1/mg) so you sell them for 50cents per mg and the middleman can hook up all sorts of users who need them.

Do you realize that for every real pill you actively choose to remove from the market, another completely fake Mexican made pressed pill containing mystery quantities of fentanyl analogues takes its place? Do you not see how your prescription might make the difference between a user buying pills that get them function for work vs. getting a pill that ends up getting them fired or outright kills them from an OD?

Your buddy on methadone isn't going to use these bro they're a joke compared to methadone. 99% he's just going to sell them to people who would prefer pills that might take the place of a mystery bag of fake heroin they had planned to buy that would have killed them. Thank God they had access to you ur real percs...

Well, they don't yet. It's up to you. If you think a methadone user's main clientele are 15yo teenagers trying percs for the first time instead of seasoned users where real percs can do nothing but good, you're delusional my friend.

I know you mean well. Good luck with your speedy recovery!
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lol - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 02:36:21 EST IggaRoSW No.607864 Reply
>>607849

I don't see anything wrong with you getting rid of them if you want to stay away from opis and not get back into them. If you also don't wanna get involved in selling shit and the things that come with it then just bring em to one of those prescription drop off places instead of throwing drugs in the water. If you really can't just hold onto em then that is your best bet. I don't blame you for not wanting to get back on the wagon or potentially put someone else in that spot
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Albert Chivinghood - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 08:42:34 EST dttlF/OR No.607866 Reply
>>607849
1y, 4 months clean from opi's

>Throw away?
By all means take it to your local PD for the proper bullshit of disposing of them, or flush them lmao
>Sell?
Is it worth the risk? I wouldn't morally feel right giving them to a friend who's on methadone. But that's me.

>Self control, the 3rd option
Hide them somewhere, where you'll forget that they even exist.

Fentanyl Patch

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- Sat, 06 Jul 2019 19:07:31 EST 5HGMMUkS No.607835
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How much should I pay for one of these?
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dr. m - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 01:54:21 EST 1qKXc0ke No.607860 Reply
>>607835

Do you already have the patch in your possession? My understanding is this...100mcg/hr patches have a MINIMUM fentanyl content of 7.2mg. To figure out the total minimum (potentially NOT the average or the possible maximum, just the minimum) fentanyl content.

Apart from helping you with the various ways you could break it down/cut it up etc. and the various methods to consume it, I can't help you accurately.

My murky memory was that fent patches were worth somewhere between half and double the hourly microgram strength in dollars, e.g. a 100ug/hr patch would supposedly be between $50-200 if those prices were even accurate.

Bear in mind my last time seeing those in the game was like almost 10 years ago, and I always remember the gel ones going for more than the weird polymer adhesive ones that were harder to abuse.

So yeah no idea how much they go for these days, but they definitely have more than 7.2mg in them even if the directions say remove after 3 days. I've read reports online years and years ago of a guy snatching up his grandmas used and supposedly mostly spent fent patches (his were 50ug I believe, so after 3 days grandma absorbed supposedly 3.6mg) and he managed to get high as shit off supposedly completely spent patches, so beware and do more online research.

Even if there's almost double the fent total in the patch that is absorbed in 72hr, i.e. ~14mg of fent (supposedly), it's hard to determine their value.

According to various opioid dose calculating charts, 7.2mg of fent transdermally is roughly equal to 360mg oxycodone IR, and that's not including the extra that's left over in the patch.

I'm thinking the best way to abuse these newer gel-free polymer patches is probably either soaking the patch in some sort of solvent (ethanol, isopropyl, there's loads I'm just not educated in chemistry) or cutting it up into tiny pieces and soaking them all in a solvent that's best able to dissolve the fent and possibly be able to penetrate the plastic barrier, whilst dissolving the least amount of inert polymers or whatever the patches are made of.

Then you'd evaporate the solvent and hopefully only a residue similar in texture to the adhesive should appear on the bottom of the container you used. Then I'd personally calculate how concentrated of a solution I want, assume there was 100% efficient extracting, find a much less harmful solvent that's OK for human consumption via mucus membranes (nasal/rectal) e.g. water, PG (in low/medium doses, not 100s of ml), and others. Let's say you have ~7.2mg minimum, maybe ~5-10mg, of fent residue mixed with adhesive crap in a dish (assuming the higher total in patch dose is offset by the imperfect extraction). Personally I'd add about 40ml of nasal/rectal usable solvent (probably water or saline) and then mixing it vigorously for 1-3 minutes, then letting it sit for 5 or 10min-1hr, then repeat mixing etc. until you can let it sit overnight followed by 1-2 mixing processes in the morning. By then I'd be confident it's equally distributed or that most residue polymer pieces broke down a bit.

Then draw up between 0.5-2ml of solution(~125-500ug of fent assuming the arbitrary assumption that between ~5-10mg of fent was extracted from a patch with 7.2mg minimum and unknown total maximum dosage) and spray a test dose up one of your nostrils as a test dose. I don't know your tolerance so I have no idea what's a safe dose for you.

The calculator was suggesting that 100ug transdermal fent is equal to 5mg oral oxy, and snorting is almost as efficient as transdermal but hits much harder and all at once (like 89% snorted vs. 92% transdermal). It's a safe assumption that rectal use with no turds up there is 89% minimum, possibly equal to or a hair better than transdermal, and absorbed more Absorbed more quickly in exchange for risk of a third hijacking your solution.

So yeah definitely snort a residue leftover from extraction until either your nose hurts/gets clogged up, or the volume is too big, before trying to plug it. Remember that every ml will be equally as strong as another.


and that point, personally I'd save the leftover adhesive patch/patch parts, dry them, out, and store them somewhere in case someone comes up with a way to extract even more from the patches. Even if you end up having no method of consumption other than eating them (DO NOT eat a whole fresh patch. I was talking about super spent patches after one or even two extractions have made), assuming the inactive ingredients aren't particular harmful after looking them up and studying them, it's better than just throwing them away.

Anyone have better input on price value? Honestly to pay as much as $100 for just 7-10+, maybe somehow up to 15mg of original fent seems like a massive waste of money especially for these non-gel patches, let alone the fact that prescription opioid supply numbers of schedule II drugs has fallen about 25% from just the end of 2016 to the end of 2018.
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lol - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 02:32:21 EST IggaRoSW No.607863 Reply
>>607835

Used to pay 35 for the 100mcg gel patches. I'd go down at least 25 percent if they are the plastic ones. Smoked so many of those things so I've smoked a lot of fuckin plastic. I really think these things are over rated. Me and my friend threw down on a box before so we had a bunch and we were just throwing whole ones in our mouths at a time cause we were dumb teenagers. Not knowing about how shit the oral BA is really fucked me with those back im the day. Didn't have a pc so word of mouth was only way I knew to do them. Learned from a friend's crackhead dad so that should of been the first red flag. Either way when you can get the shit to work it sucks and just feels like you're gonna die kind of or like you just want to sleep so bad but can't. Not a fan of em at all.

can you get high on buprenorphine

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- Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:51:09 EST ROfhcyrx No.607545
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i found some buprenorphine and i wondered if i can get high off it, tried to looked it up online and there wasnt much to be found
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Phoebe Brookson - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 18:43:25 EST zlM4egsf No.607854 Reply
>>607806
I watched this last night and I was really confused why they didn't just seek out heroin while they were outside of Finland. I know towards the end he gets some in Afrika but why even bother with the Subutex when there's dope around? Most of the time it doesn't even seem like his IV Sub gets him high and it's mostly the diazapem that causes his "slow" behavior.
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lol - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 19:53:40 EST IggaRoSW No.607856 Reply
>>607854

I haven't watched this shit since around when i found it subbed a long time ago but iirc they get fuckin diazepam or some benzos from the pharmacy for addiction or some shit right? Is that the benxo they got and how much did they get again? How does it work? Too lazy to download and watch again
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Eliza Weblingbanks - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 00:59:26 EST zlM4egsf No.607858 Reply
>>607856
Yeah it sounded to me like they got frequent and free or at least cheap benzos from doctors as some sort of program for addicts. Not sure how it works. Maybe they're just otc there.

Heroin and Johnny Law

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- Tue, 04 Jun 2019 00:51:46 EST yRD9ts6n No.606713
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A question for my fellow 'mericans who do dope: what are your experiences with Johnny Law? I know it varies by state, but is it true that getting caught with heroin will ruin your life (ie: can't get a job because lol heroin junkie). Also, does being able to speak properly (ie speaking "white") and having no tatts or piercings help first time offenders receive a less brutal legal ass fucking?
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Reuben Nicklewater - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 05:24:06 EST GlGWhzpf No.607412 Reply
>>607389
New/old has nothing to do with it - but yeah I will admit I should have just ignored you. But when someone says something just plain stupid which has an impact on (potentially) an innocent child, it doesn't matter who they are, I'm going to call then out on it and hope they see the other side of things.
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Augustus Buddleway - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 19:31:08 EST R4MduSg+ No.607836 Reply
In the wise words of some rapper whose name I can't find out "Keep the pack in ya mouth so ya don't go to the House"

A.K.A keep your point, dub, g, three two, whatever the fuck in the little piece of plastic so you can swallow that shit as soon as you see them lights.

I'm a white boy who, let's just say, grew up in an area he isn't welcome in. I'm white as snow and I wouldn't dream of walking or driving in certain neighborhoods unless I'm there to go to the trap. The lookouts know who the fuck I am. They know skinny white boys are only there for cream, boy, or girl.

The cops know my name. They know why I'm in the neighborhood I'm in. When they see me pull out and take my turn out of the hood, let the games begin. "Your license plate was dirty" "You didn't signal within 100 feet" "You didn't make a complete stop at that stop sign." Yada yada yada. All bullshit. All an excuse to pull my ass over.

I'm not high yet. I'm not dressed like a gangster or a hood-ass motherfucker. I'm in my clean, registered, insured 2004 Honda Civic, wearing semi-casual clothing.

I would swallow the shit, no smell or nothing. Pigs would pull me out, search the whole vehicle because 'probable cause' means jack fucking shit, even call for backup and shit. Only thing I had on me was whatever was in my sack and that sack was swallowed as soon as I saw the cops riding my ass. They couldn't smell anything, couldn't see anything, but they just wouldn't give up.

Eventually my guy made me start meeting him at the local burger joint's parking lot, but then that shit got hot and I had to meet him somewhere else. Word on the street was he got caught with hella felonies and was looking to drop the dime on any and all clients, A-Z. I started to suspect he was trying to set up some sort of sting, due to the random white/grey dodge chargers that started parking across the lot facing away from us, and they'd just HAPPEN to be there whenever my ass was there, day or night. I cut that dude off and started going through other plugs who operate out of the suburbs next door to your grandma and your aunt.

High as fuck rn, fuck 12. They think they're so smart with their ghost paint and their surveillance and plain clothes informants trying to get me on audio/video, but those motherfuckers can suck my fucking dick.

Kratom compared to hydrocodone

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- Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:39:43 EST 543Zdtd4 No.607558
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The only opi i've done is hydrocodone when I had my wisdom teeth puled, and they gave me a bottle. I pretty much took one every few hours despite not being in pain. I can't remember what dose it was though. So what will 3g of kratom be like compared to hydrocodone without any tolerance?
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dr. m - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 22:41:40 EST 1qKXc0ke No.607811 Reply
>>607793

Yeah nah 98% chance you won't feel it if you're a normal guy and don't have crazy weird dreams...
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Graham Bammerworth - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 22:53:33 EST 2S+1FhlK No.607815 Reply
>>607793
Get an extract if you only use once in a blue moon. cant recommend brands since i havent used kratom in years

detoxing heroin with subs

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- Thu, 04 Jul 2019 15:09:21 EST wt8RugVD No.607745
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hey y'all. i've been on about a 2 month long heroin binge and am going to be stopping in the next few days. i have 36mg of bupe and am going to be purchasing a lot of lope. i also have access to kratom. does anyone have any advice for getting through detox? more specifically, how i should be dosing with the subs?
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Martha Mondersetch - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 15:23:53 EST nWHA+Ge8 No.607746 Reply
>>607745
Take 2mg, see how you feel after an hour or two. If you're still feeling awful (although you shouldn't feel that bad after 2 months) take another 2. Wait until you're fully in WD before you take the Suboxone otherwise you can risk feeling really bad. You should be fine with just the sub if you're doing a rapid taper, maybe even kratom. Having said that, I'd try the kratom first before the Suboxone as it's safer to get off. Again with the kratom, wait until you're in WD and then from what I've heard, 3-5 grams or so should be a good starting point.
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dr. m - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 20:11:13 EST 1qKXc0ke No.607756 Reply
>>607745

IMO you should do at least two days of dope free whilst using only kratom before using any suboxone. Your dose should be between 3-10g (maybe 5g on average) every 4 to 6 hours as needed. Don't overdue it. It's not supposed to make you withdrawal free. Then after two days of kratom (at least 36hr if you really can't handle it any longer), start by using only 1mg of suboxone sublingual or 0.5mg snorted and waiting at least an hour before redosing. If it makes you sick at 1mg, more will only make you worse.

If you can manage it, a full 24-36hr of only kratom and zero dope followed by at least 8hr full sobriety, preferably 12-24hr, will decrease your chances of precipitated withdrawal.

Google precipitated withdrawal and understand it well before ever getting close to putting suboxone or subutex in your body.
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Graham Bammerworth - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 22:52:25 EST 2S+1FhlK No.607814 Reply
I wouldnt bother for a 2 month binge, h w/d is short and sweet. take lope and kratom if you must. make some LDN for after unless you plan to relapse, in which case make ULDN

Kratom Vendors DIscussion

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- Sat, 29 Jun 2019 15:22:45 EST W+R4DpIe No.607595
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Im trying to source some high quality kratom for reasonable prices. Looking for opinions and experiences with different vendors. The best kratom I have had so far has consistently been from mmmspeciosa but I can not justify their ridiculous prices ($100 for 250g). Ive also gone through socalherbalremedies and therapy botanicals facebook page which are much more reasonable in pricing ($100 for 1kg) but their quality is inconsistent and somewhat subpar in comparison to mmmspeciosa. What vendors do you guys go through?
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Eugene Crishfeck - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 06:24:59 EST oXY6NDHM No.607670 Reply
>>607665

Yeah, I know it's shit-tier bait. Just funny to see the faggot spaz out. I'm done with his game now though
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Charlotte Brookway - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 21:52:05 EST HCuwPgt6 No.607733 Reply
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>>607658
>>607661
Quit shitting up the thread with your retardation. Take your painfully obvious asperger's somewhere else.
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Ian Chabblepot - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 16:26:24 EST xaqOIgM9 No.607801 Reply
Borneo Energy/Kratom. 500g for 65 USD, too chicken to order to my illegal country. Eat my referal-ass rando nerd. If it wasnt for Hella tips from this shit+heavenhole, I'd ... Be a Lot leds poor and have way way less fun memories.

Anyways suck my.nuts and have a nice one errybod.

First time

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- Wed, 03 Jul 2019 20:22:53 EST nobweYpQ No.607728
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So I have some powder H and am trying to inject for the first time. I'm gonna figure it out so don't give me the "don't" treatment. How does one go about getting a syringe (I live in WV) and how do I safely do it. Step by step please
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dr. m - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 20:51:11 EST 1qKXc0ke No.607766 Reply
>>607764

If 29gauge aren't available, look for 28gauge. If those aren't available, get 27gauge. You shouldn't ever have to go larger than 27gauge (the lower the number the thicker the needle, the same as shotgun gauges).
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Archie Gablingwick - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 05:13:10 EST Mv811kVb No.607772 Reply
>>607728
I’m sorry I’m a total dickshit noob, but can anyone lay some vocab on me for what needles you’re gonna want to use? I imagine you can cop them off amazon, but what ranges are u looking for? Also, how common is it for rookie to source their gear from a needle exchange etc? The people I know who were deep into IV dope certainly didn’t seem like they were making daily purchases on amazon in order to fix
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dr. m - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 08:38:56 EST 1qKXc0ke No.607787 Reply
>>607772
Well read my posts and never end up like those people you know or have seen. Chances are they're decades behind available cheap technology that reduces IV damage by ~95-99% depending on your POV.

tramadol high

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- Fri, 28 Jun 2019 11:03:46 EST ROfhcyrx No.607546
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just took 50mg of tramadol, would i have a good high?
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Beatrice Gabbleforth - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 22:58:17 EST iwPQzXLg No.607735 Reply
>>607616
But if you're blocking the mu agonist effects of tram you may as wrll just be taking an SNRI. I think tianeptine is a pretty suspect antidepressant, certainly as a first line. It seems very suspicious to me that they only discovered it was a full opioid agonist once it was already on the market
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dr. m - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 20:00:28 EST 1qKXc0ke No.607753 Reply
>>607735
I assume they were referring to ULDN or LDN, not a full dose of 50mg Naltrexone. Those two other acronyms are lower doses of nltx, between 5-250ug for ULDN and around 251ug-5mg for LDN, though there's no set in stone cutoff limit to distinguish the two. Generally, nltx doses of 1mg or higher are nearly guaranteed to block most or all opioid effects (most LDN doses). For me, between 50-100ug is the maximum I used to be able to take for my near daily high dose high tolerance usage without losing more than say 5-10% maximum of the euphoric effects.

Everyone is different though and oral absorption efficiency for nltx varies by up to 800%, so some may find 10ug to work best for them, or possibly as much as 250-500ug.

Australia

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- Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:56:10 EST pI7AnPpV No.607025
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What's the opi drug culture like in Australia? Is it still anything like the film Candy.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 11:53:40 EST rjdnYvXV No.607705 Reply
>>607688
I respectfully disagree. I think you have it backwards. It wasn't so much love as what happens inevitably in that sort of scenario. It wasn't a love story. I've actually spoken to Luke Davies and while I didn't ask any Frost/Nixon-esque questions, the few I did implied it was more about the life and what happens to those around you. Heroin is the love and Megan Bannister (the female) was secondary. This is true in the reverse too for her.

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