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coming back after a long break

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- Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:27:59 EST qIF52LG4 No.616573
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hello /opi/, long time no see
i have been clean for about 11 months now and i am finally ready to start using again.
i have about a gram of H here, but my big problem is that my veins in my arms are still fucked up beyond belief. any recomandations of where else i can shoot up? when i say my arms are fucked, i mean it. before i quit this last time i was doing subcu and IM injections.
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JJzz !MC.Aq.K9Wo - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 04:07:38 EST wtZxGkjC No.616585 Reply
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Very good advice, but it sounds like this guy has plenty of options left besides femoral.

OP: your legs have lots of veins, but most of them are not beginner-friendly. Your ankles are the best choice for now. Tie off right under your calf muscle. (i prefer to have the "pull" on the inside) and look at your foot/ankle.

There's a big fat vein on each side of the bone that sticks out. The inside one goes in a straight line from your big toe up to your shin, the outer one curves around the bottom of the ankle bone up your calf in an L shape. The inside one is less visible, but much easier to hit without it squirming around.

This is important because MISSING IN YOUR LEGS/FEET IS MUCH WORSE THAN YOUR ARMS due to less direct blood flow. this is especially true if you're using Dope, since it doesn't really sting when you miss.

Pic related. Start at the X. Go down if it's too deep to find, up if it's too flimsy/not deep enough
Fucking Charryhall - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:29:46 EST qIF52LG4 No.616595 Reply
i have always been a bit wary of shooting up in that spot, ive seen others do it but it has always scared me, maybe as a last resort like you said
thank you so much for illustrating this, i got it and it is working perfect, just like my arms used to. seriously appreciated my man
Graham Duckfoot - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 10:48:45 EST Y6/2rG0+ No.616611 Reply
Call me an ass but i just force myself to get used to plugging when my arms nearly run out of veins and after a few weeks they partially repair. Couple of months mostly. And takes along time to complete but as long as you go in cycles of not ruining them too much and plugging for long enough you can keep using your arms

I recommend using weights to strengthen any areas you poke often. Especially if you miss

5hcl oxy can shoot?

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- Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:45:59 EST vYqJkZrM No.616596
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Is it still possible to shoot the quick releases and would it even be worth
Lydia Pecklewater - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 18:03:50 EST MXlmBZzx No.616597 Reply
No! Its like 5 mgs of oxy and 100 of filler, just eat it.
m - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:23:07 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616600 Reply
>is it possible
>is it worth it
Absolutely not. At the very least, it shouldn't even be attempted without 0.22ug micron filters or at least I guess 0.45ug filters. Even then, it's quite silly. It's so much filler, and oral oxy is up to like ~80-88%+ bioavailability.


Codeine combined with Z-drug (Ambien)

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- Tue, 28 Jul 2020 23:03:35 EST wYewymhh No.616466
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I have bronchitis and was prescribed tylenol w/ codeine, however I also take ambien CR at night for insomnia.

The dosage is about 90-120 mg codeine combined with 12.5-20 mg ambien.

Is dying in my sleep from these medications a serious possibility or am I blowing this out of proportion in my mind?

I usually turn to anecdotal evidence in times like these but Google is of almost no help. The information I'm looking for is seemingly buried in an information graveyard, and a new era of search algorithm has essentially scrubbed or deprioritized any useful search results.
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Lydia Pecklewater - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 18:07:00 EST MXlmBZzx No.616598 Reply
Agreed nb morphine clearly has a tamer w/d and feels a lot smoother than oxy, its just unforgivingly shit on the stomach.
Graham Duckfoot - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 10:50:53 EST Y6/2rG0+ No.616612 Reply
>this is fact
>it was just a personal opinion.

Betsy Sindleham - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 11:00:21 EST O5uX90f5 No.616613 Reply
Lmao if you cant even point out where I said that fucking die

First Timer Advice (other than dont)

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- Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:33:21 EST OHIHxMID No.616513
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What’s a good starting dose of some apparently pretty fire #4. I’ve never done H but I have a decent tolerance from years of ppt and pst abuse and moderate benzo tolerance too. I already got narcan guess I just need a sitter and some test strips now.
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m - Wed, 05 Aug 2020 15:19:50 EST Giz4cfZQ No.616618 Reply
*misspoke, meant to say that 0.1mg is half the LD50 of a 10% pure mixture of carfentanil, which IIRC is roughly ~100x more potent than pharma fent, though users who developed a tolerance have said in the past that eventually it's closer to like ~25-75x strong supposedly, but that might be due to inferior purity levels.

Shitting Greendale - Thu, 06 Aug 2020 18:55:11 EST OHIHxMID No.616637 Reply
Ah alright. Well thanks for the safety tips. I’m not even sure I’m gonna do cause I’m really trying to get clean but chronic pain and depression keeps fucking with me. I can’t even really afford the habit anyway so that helps. I’m basically getting it for free. If it ever shows up that is.

Limits of physical withdrawal

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- Sat, 01 Aug 2020 09:28:27 EST jPNtZ3fl No.616534
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Is there an eventual peak/cap to the severity of withdrawal? Like if you're hooked for 4 or 5 years, will the physical withdrawal be worse after that amount of time than it would 2 or 3 years, or after a certain amount of time, are you looking at the same level of brutal symptoms? I'm talking about when your tolerance reaches a point where you just use to stay well and don't get high anymore.

I've been hooked for about a year and wonder if staying hooked for another four to six months will make the physical side of withdrawal any worse, or if it'll just be the same level of shitty.
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Albert Hittingworth - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 15:10:46 EST 29QbCoeq No.616543 Reply
It depends more on how many times you go through w/d, avg daily dose+number of times dosed/day but duration of habit matters too. I dont think 4-6months after a year will make your w/d "50%" worse so to say...
Basil Clayfoot - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 18:23:58 EST OHIHxMID No.616545 Reply
I hear a ton of people saying WD gets worse every time and I can kind of attest to that but I also think its partly mental as a lot of WD is. Like how tf did I end up in this situation again type thing.
Molly Davingwell - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 18:42:53 EST XvZ81YTx No.616572 Reply
I think you can reach a point you can basically feel no pleasure or good feelings without drugs. Im only in my 20s and even after long periods of no use there is an off feeling and less motivation.
I would say yes the longer you use the worse withdraw will be like 5 years will be worse than 3 and so on. You will reach a point you can't recover to 99% anymore and i think that time or age depends on your system.
I noticed barely any WD when i would use a week on week off rather than when i used everyday for over a year i didn't feel normal for months.

Heroin on top of bupe

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- Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:24:23 EST dOWcWMTA No.616510
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I've been off dope for 5 years, and have been on bupe for just as long. I recently found ~1g of tar, and I'm going to smoke it up for old time's sake.
I take about 8mg a day, split into four doses. I'm thinking of smoking the tar today, and I've already taken my morning dose of 3.25mg.
Do you guys think I'll get a decent high out of this? I know I've built up my sub levels quite a bit, but I know that there must be some receptors available since bupe is only a partial agonist. I know a lot of people say to wait 24-36 hours after the last dose, but 12h used to be sufficient when I was on 2mg bupe a day.
Can any bupe maintenance homies weigh in on this?
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Ernest Dusslehad - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 03:09:50 EST dupTl14u No.616560 Reply
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Of course you guys reply to my post now.
I'd like to report that I waited 12h after my last dose and nodded like a motherfucker all night.
Granted, I probably wouldn't have needed to smoke the full amount to achieve the same effect if I had waited longer, but it worked out well
lol - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 06:36:26 EST oaWRMjn3 No.616561 Reply
Yeah you can definitely get high really soon after taking subs it just generally took me a good bit more, waiting will obviously give you the normal effects but if most of us had the ability to wait and choose when we took something we wouldn't be in this situation.

Weird Dope

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- Sun, 26 Jul 2020 09:05:14 EST ZJvNW9ov No.616406
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So recently coped and dude has some new stuff i've never seen before
I'm kinda sketch on what it is though, it's not like the usual stuff i've gotten from him I smoke, and usually you can huff on the stuff and it will stick together and you can get it to ball up but this stuff wont stick together, it doesn't seem to react to being huffed on at all, it's white and when smoked it leaves a white residue in the piece. I took a few hits and didn't get my usual high I just got a strong sense of
paranoia and difficulty breathing this could just my paranoia of it being something
else. It also has a strong taste/smell of rubber or chemicals when smoked. Any
idea on what this stuff might be?

Pic related
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Augustus Duvingkore - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 04:49:59 EST WExQwSLt No.616530 Reply
>Idk why reagent kits aren't more popular in the opi pill scene. You can directly test for say oxy, morphine, hydro, dilly, etc. in addition to using a $1-2 fent test strip.


>My main fucking point is that OP shouldn't use this mystery powder. He doesn't even know what it is.

The answer to why people don't use test strips every time they score and why they don't throw away or test their gear if it looks suspect is pretty much the same:

When you're an addict, your budget boils down to the price of a bag. That £2 spent on a test strip? That's 1/5th of the price of a bag. You do that everytime you score and it adds up extremely quickly. Plus you need the foresight to order them and then have to wait for them to be posted to you. It's a great idea in principle, but one that only the most casual of users will actually be able or willing to do.

Granted, the benefit to a casual user with a low tolerance is much greater than someone who is addicted and has a higher tolerance allowing them to take a potent bag without dying. I live in the UK and I've never met a user who has ever tested a bag beyond shooting a small taster shot or smoking a tester line off foil. Fentanyl in our gear is extremely rare, but even if it was, telling addicts to test their gear with strips is a fantasy, it just won't happen or work in the real world. MAYBE if the testing strips were included with injection kits from the needle exchange you might get a large proportion to do it, but the rule is if it costs money or takes time and holds up getting high, it wont be used.


Telling people not to use sketchy looking gear after they've paid for it is an even bigger fantasy. There was a huge drought in the UK back in 2010. Gear of any quality dried up all over the country. People were selling pure bash, barb or benzo laced "gear" with 0-5% heroin, shit cut with all sorts of crap that gelled or hardened in the syringe leading people to heat the shit outta it and inject it hot even though they knew it wouldn't get them high, maybe not even get them well and would do serious damage to their veins and organs. People kept chasing gear, spending loads, kept buying crap, kept being disappointed and suffered physically and mentally. Even when they tried it and knew it was total shit, they still didn't throw the rest away, they used it, because that's what opiate addiction is. Chasing the gear, ignoring all the dangers and warning signs and doing whatever it takes to get high. Its not rational or logical and what seems crazy to an outsider is no more than a typical day for a heroin addict
Betsy Gallersat - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 05:25:10 EST Y6/2rG0+ No.616531 Reply
Why do you need test strips for fent when Americans only get fent anyway?
lol - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 11:19:16 EST oaWRMjn3 No.616536 Reply
Summed it up pretty well. Until test kits are made free at exchanges they wont be used widely and even then some will still opt for getting their dope in themselves as fast as possible with no extra shit. I heard about benzos and other weird drugs being mixed with weak dope in uk and shit, wtf kind of benzos were they using? I used dope for w very long time and dont think ive ever had benzo cut well as far as i know

Anxiety of buying Codeine

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- Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:53:32 EST NNG/TMbT No.616440
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i want to take Codeine, but i wonder how many people buys cough medicine in the middle of summer? So i am kinda embarassed and anxious to do that
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m - Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:41:24 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616462 Reply
LMAO, when I got mine removed around ~6-7 years ago, I literally received something like 60ct 5mg hydro, then another 30 5mg hydro "refill" over the phone, then 60ct 7.5mg on my first checkup visit, followed by a final 60ct 5mg on my third and last visit. not even kidding. And for the actual surgery I was given 1-2mg ativan the night before, 1-2 more ativan the morning of, and then nitrous oxide for over 10min before IV midazolam, propofol, and fentanyl to put me under.

Granted I did end up having two dry sockets on the bottom, one of which broke back open a second time 2+ weeks after the procedure. In addition, it was a dental surgeon specialist and a close family member referred me as they work in similar fields and the family member often refers their patients to this guy. So I'm not sure if that made him much more understanding.

That last script of 60ct was actually bumped down from 7.5mg to 5mg by the head nurse after the doc had written the script, due to me apparently looking and sounding impaired as shit (had taken something nuts like 40-60mg hydro that morning without more than 1-2 weeks low dose acute tolerance because the pain was just too bad from ripping open). I remember seeing the switch when she handed me the script and walked off, so I instantly opi raged and came barreling down the hallway up to the nurse. I hadn't even realized I had passed a waist-high gate that said employees only. Looking back I was not using my "inside voice."

The saddest part is I wasn't faking it and it really was that bad. But the truth is opioids only do so much for nerve pain anyways.

She walked infront of me and cut me right off before I could go find the doc or had even said 2 or 3 words, by saying something like, "the doctor's first scripted dose was a mistake and we corrected it, your pain should stop in a few minutes as we plugged your dry socket, and you currently appear impaired. Leave the employee only section immediately and have someone else drive you home. The door out is that way *points as if I'm too high for directional awareness.* Call us if the cotton pack falls out, or there's signs of infection. Feel better"

MAAAN that lady had her stop-drug-seekers-in-their-tracks routine down to a fucking science. Though she seemed to be shitty at telling real pain from fake begging.
Frederick Huzzledale - Wed, 29 Jul 2020 21:21:48 EST OmV+T9K1 No.616491 Reply
i bought 300 mg codeine and antihistamines (so i ventured into few pharmacies that day). Euphoria starts maybe 10 minutes after dose and it lasts maybe 30 minutes, rest is just drowsy feel-good, apathetic state. I watched movie for an hour then i started playing GTA IV. I remember few years i did first hit of u47700 while playing canis canem edit. I know lot of people died because of that drug, but i dont remember feeling more happy than i was then. I guess i wanted to replicate this feeling, but its chasing the dragon, not possible to replicate with much weaker drug, times has changed a lot. So i was bit dissapointed dissapointed, but then i drank cup of hot tea and i felt really comfy, like high suddenly came back, so thats cool i guess
Angus Hoddlemat - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 14:56:10 EST Y6/2rG0+ No.616519 Reply
256mg is one nor al otc pack of codeine? 300mg dosent make sense

Just drank some whisky after 3 days of drankin pst. High suddenly.

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- Mon, 13 Jul 2020 03:41:18 EST ijHX005W No.616166
File: 1594626078755.gif -(4617030B / 4.40MB, 460x259) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Just drank some whisky after 3 days of drankin pst. High suddenly.
So I feel like I just took a load of codeine or a bit or dihydrocodeine. I was pretty chill all day, feeling the relaxed after effects of drinking pst for about 3 days in a row. But I get home from work and drink some scotch and god damn, what happened? I'm high as fuck son.

Did it just pass through a different part of my intestinal tract and get me high or did drinking the alcohol just blast the effects into overdrive? I state, I was not feeling high until I drank. I've only had half a glass of scotch right now, so a few sips (straight) and, yeah, fuck man, high.

Nice though.
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Fuck Trotdale - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 07:43:24 EST Y6/2rG0+ No.616415 Reply
Maybe coz your blood thins it gets to tour brain faster, reducing the half life of Ny chemicals in your blood stream as they get processed faster

I dont know. Thats an estimation
Phyllis Druddletere - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:00:00 EST 29QbCoeq No.616501 Reply
Id say cuz it chills you out so you can again appreciate that you're loaded
Zozyman - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 08:53:52 EST ijHX005W No.616508 Reply
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I'm starting to think it just sets something in my body right for a few days. Prior to this past couple weeks I'd been sober about 3 and a half years. Since quitting drugs and stuff I used to wake up every morning needing to go for a crap like RIGHT THEN, so I'd rush to the bathroom. I thought maybe IBS or something caused by years of drug abuse or maybe a side effect of my concerta I'd not noticed over the two prior years of use, due to also having been on other drugs etc.

But that really nice feeling I had in my gut, like a warm fuzzy bliss (not the same thing as the high, not at all) slowly went away over quite a number of days. I just had more morphine and pst (not all at once, that'd be a waste) and it's got my guts feeling just as good. I mean, it gives me a bit of gas sometimes but the pain is gone and the need to go to the bathroom like it was an emergancy is gone. Funny thing is, I'm not getting constapated either, and I'm using a decent amount of opi.

I don't know what the fuck is going on, but I've spend all day feeling not just mellow from pst yesterday, but like my guts WORK.

My current hypothesis on this is that; it's relaxing the muscles around my guts/intestine and perhaps easing the nerve plexus. I don't know, maybe the lack of pain in my back is also helping (I have two herniated discs in my lower and middle back). But fuck me, do I feel fine. Not even high, just, nice.

Good dope comboz

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- Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:58:58 EST HzM4ngwP No.616484
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I came up with a new and improved lean I mix a 60ml bottle of etizolam 4x concentrate and a bottle of thc MTV oil reign drop then make opium tea strain out the thegunk and and ssome honeycor easy to dissolve sugar and flavoured mio it feels really good in cooking off a 3GMC and lsd bendo
I'm floored
Cedric Shittingshit - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 06:04:32 EST O5uX90f5 No.616498 Reply
This board used to be a lot smarter 10 years ago, must be that all the good posters OD'd and only hood ignorants remain.
Simon Soddlewell - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 21:01:58 EST dupTl14u No.616502 Reply
Zoomer retards grew up.
And yes, there are only a few 30 year old boomers left.


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- Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:47:56 EST GrpE3pkD No.616487
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Anyone know where I can find tianeptine in south florida? Like at a gas station or smoke shop? $5 in ethereum to anyone who can help me

Lavigne, Avril

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- Sun, 26 Jul 2020 13:05:41 EST fNM6pnlH No.616408
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Can severe constipation stop you from getting high?
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Graham Turveyfield - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:09:53 EST 56FM/KmU No.616425 Reply
tried a stool softener like ducolax my man?

I find it helps with oxyconstipation
m - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:01:15 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616437 Reply
stay away from any and all stimulant laxatives for OP wd. Use stool softeners instead. And no, being constipated doesn't block you from being high, though there could be acoorelation between bad constipation and weak redosing effects, as it means you've likely bioaccumulated a lot of residual opioids that keep you constipated and reduce the subjective "acceleration" going from sober 0mph to high.

OP - Wed, 29 Jul 2020 14:57:14 EST 9R7K6zzj No.616480 Reply
These are my findings. I don't think constipation was the issue.

It seems that I may have underestimate the potential of a "blocking dose" of methadone. While months of taking 60MG did nothing to reduce the effectiveness of IV fent, the third day of being on 70MG completely eliminated any ability to feel the effects.

The constipation was likely from the increase of methadone combined with taking a massively larger than normal amount of fent and H while trying to get high. My sources told me that what they were giving me after my complaining was supposedly "extra strong" and they may have been telling the truth. Not being able to feel it, I might have introduced a massive amount of constipating opioids to my system.

However, needing a bowel movement any time I take opioids is still strange. It could be that while the opioids are blocked, the cutting agents are not, which could very likely contain laxatives. Needing a bowel movement with methadone is honestly difficult to establish a correlation with the frequency at which I take it, and the extremely slow onset. If this is however, still happening, then the bowel movement could be an effect of any opioid being ingested while at the blocking dose.

Methadone and oxy timing

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- Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:45:43 EST 6p9GgdST No.616420
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OK so basically I'm taking methadone illicitly and I just got prescribed 5mg oxy 3 times a day, I only take the methadone 6 days while Saturday I can't get any, so I'm wondering what's the best way to get the most out of my oxy, my idea is, save the oxy for Saturday, I'm not good at math so that's 21 pills a week I think, my last dose is Friday usually in the morning, so when would the best time to take the 60mg of oxy I save up? Saturday at like 12pm? I will also be taking some nitrazepam, like 10mg and 50mg of promethazine an hour beforehand, last time I swallowed 30mg of oxy before I got put on 3 a day, and 30mg did nothing, I'm able to snort these new oxy and it hits fine, I'm consurned of the half life of the methadone

I don't wanna waste it and not get on the nod, so would Saturday at 12pm be a good time and have the methadone out my system or should I wait later in the day to do the oxy?
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m - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:05:19 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616431 Reply
Yeah this. If it's going to be a long time script (more than just 1-3 months), you're best off either just hoarding/stashing them away to sell in bulk or for way in the future use, or I guess selling them monthly if you find a long term buyer.

How many mg of methadone are you taking daily (apart from Saturday)? Is it syrup or tablets (I assume syrup)? Are the individual dosage bottles you receive actually sealed? Many people diverting their 'done for cash, who are taking larger methadone doses of like ~70-100m+/day, seem to sometimes water down or otherwise dilute the syrup they sell (patients who need money might take a portion of the dose to avoid worse WD and then fill it back up with water etc.).

I assume you buy it from someone who gets weekly take homes, and that they pick up on Saturdays. I'm curious...how much do they charge you per dose/mg, and does the seller use another opi during the week apart from their seemingly once weekly "forced" methadone dose ?

One tip I can give is this: if you can make it work symptom wise at work/school on Fridays, do your best to push back Friday dosing by optimally 12 hours, or at the very least 3-6ish hours. So try to wait at least 4-6 hours later than "normal" to dose, say at noon during lunch if you normally dose at 8am.

The optimal choice is a full 12hr later than normal, say 8pm Fri night instead of 8am. That way, instead of enduring a full 48hr timespan from Fri morning to Sun morning (24hr more than usual), it's broken down into two days a week where you dose is stretched an extra 12 hours. I bet this strategy is much more bearable than your current situation.

Again depending on methadone dose your oxy would likely just be a waste, unless you experience some WD on Saturday. If you do, maybe take a non-recreational oxy dose of like 20-80mg split into 2-3 separate doses depending on current methadone mg usage).

Methadone does NOT magically block other opioids unless methadone has both a higher binding affinity than the other opi and your usage level is enough to relatively rape your tolerance. At most it just raises tolerance and prevents the..."acceleration" (so to speak) of opi agonism from sober to receptor sites being mostly saturated.

Since methadone's half-life is just way too long, it's very unlikely that you'll subjectively feel the oxy much, whether on Saturday or used ontop of your 'done dose 1-2x/week.
Oliver Wazzlefock - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:11:37 EST 6p9GgdST No.616432 Reply
I get a small portion of a friend's dose, maybe like 20mg I dunno it's different sometimes I'll get at least a nice buzz like 8 hours after taking the dose, and I get the oxy because of some medical issues like kidney and gallstones and chest pain, took me years to find a doctor that would actually take me serious and even put me on sleeping meds

I dunno about the tolerance, last night I took my sleepers and snorted 10mg after it kicked in and I felt more then I did taking the 30mg orally, I think snorting it made a big difference, if I snort the 60mg I'm sure I'll get nodding, but I'll have to wait for Saturday, what if I snort it Saturday night, that would give a decent time to get the methadone out of my system, coz I'm tired of going thru wd
Oliver Wazzlefock - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:21:59 EST 6p9GgdST No.616434 Reply
I get the done free as i get it out of pity I guess, it's not syrup but like cordial, it's in that on purpose as after a while it gets off and eventually moldy if not taken within the week, I've only ever managed to get actual pills once and I would need about 30mg of done to actually get the nod, but it's different with the liquid, like it can take up to 8 hours to start to get the opiate buzz and half the time I don't really even get high off it, it also depends if I have the dose from the full bottle, or when a bit is left at the bottom, I assume it's powder dropped into the liquid coz I always feel it more when I have the little bit left over at the bottom, I should really try n get some sort of big cup that has the mg of liquid written on the sides

When does heroin or morphine expire?

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- Fri, 17 Jul 2020 11:47:17 EST 6EV3t1+Y No.616259
File: 1595000837637.jpg -(153520B / 149.92KB, 1200x1600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. When does heroin or morphine expire?
Basically I'm wondering if you had access to a shitton of opium and you could turn it into morphine or even heroin how long could it stay and in what environment for it to be safe to use?
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Edward Pummlefield - Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:53:44 EST Y6/2rG0+ No.616370 Reply
It would be daft to assume mold at such an early stage of preservation
Oliver Wazzlefock - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:49:32 EST 6p9GgdST No.616421 Reply
I've heard of people finding morphine from the early 20th century like the 40s and hitting it up and it worked just fine, same thing with old cocaine vials
m - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:16:49 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616439 Reply
Basically never, but at least several decades if stored at least somewhat properly (in original decently airtight container between say 35-110F outside directly constant sunlight). There's been some studies that sampled vials of morphine and various opium preparation that were ~50-100+ years old, a few in particular that tested sealed morphine vials from WW1 (don't remember what formula e.g. pills vs. liquid etc.)

For heroin though, you must keep it completely dry or else it'll deacetylate back into 6-MAM and eventually all morphine, though that process takes well over 1 or 2 weeks in neutral Ph to completely revert back to morphine.

Remember that we're discussing how long does opium/morphine/heroin take to DEGRADE, NOT whether a product is safe for injection or possibly nasal/rectal use. Any non-tablet/capsule pharma opi formulation that's significantly past the expiration date is generally NOT safe to IV as is, and IM/SubC use is arguably out of the question. Old school preparations of opium decades old would fit into this "unsafe to consume non-orally" category.

When IVing questionably old product, a 0.22ug micron filter is an absolute MUST. The less effective 0.45ug or sterifilt-tier filters would be better than nothing, and anything inferior to these (e.g. cotton) is just not sufficient.


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