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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

Mysterious email

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- Fri, 17 Jan 2020 21:03:14 EST 7pxsIfXv No.613113
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Did anybody else receive a strange email from customer service of a former supplier this week or was it just me
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 07:04:02 EST bfr2yuHE No.613129 Reply
>>613113
Not, really. Major thank you for making this thread.

Urine Detectabity after first use.

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- Thu, 16 Jan 2020 15:58:55 EST WUStEVQJ No.613098
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Hey guys. Curious... does anyone know how long after first use it takes for drugs to enter your urine? It can’t be immediately I feel like. I feel like there has to be a window after you use before it can be detected. Every time I google though, I just get results for how long it stays in your urine.
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Fuck Dunnerway - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 13:11:20 EST yZuUbD4f No.613119 Reply
>>613114
>you can do a speedball before a drug test and piss clean

[citation needed]
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 17:03:10 EST bfr2yuHE No.613120 Reply
>>613119
LOL, but really though. The window between ingestion of drugs and pissing dirty has to be rather small. Maybe a couple of hours? 6-12 hours seems way too long before opiates and amphetamines (or coke) flagging on a dipstick test.
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Simon Crillerbury - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 23:29:25 EST 30kb9fBZ No.613126 Reply
6 hours might be a bit much for some drugs, but you get a few hours, i can tell you from personal exp

stonks

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- Sat, 18 Jan 2020 21:56:01 EST L2Vnr0p6 No.613122
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>buy 5 hydrocodone 5mgs for 1.50 a piece from neighbor lady who doesnt know street prices
>trade it for a quarter of weed
>sell eight of the weed
>buy more pills
>have pills and weed
>mfw
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Simon Crillerbury - Sat, 18 Jan 2020 23:27:33 EST 30kb9fBZ No.613125 Reply
>>613122
How did you find your neighborhood lady has vics to sell?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 00:09:06 EST bfr2yuHE No.613127 Reply
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>>613122
mfw OP has illegal access to 5mg hydrocodone and weed

nb

Stash thread?

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- Thu, 09 Jan 2020 21:23:35 EST ibF6UGnG No.613009
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Should be a fun night! This is my current stash.
Gram of some 6.5/10 heroin, but 10/10 for the 80 a gram price.
~.2 rock of some 10/10 rock your fucking socks off heroin, talkin' some one bump then you slump stuff.
Real bars, and some muscle relaxers.
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Martha Snodhall - Sun, 12 Jan 2020 00:25:12 EST oNLFnYQU No.613036 Reply
>>613017
I get more from 30mg hydro than I do 30mg oxy, I have both ir & er

Maybe my oxy tolerance is just high af by this point
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Charles Drarringfudging - Sun, 12 Jan 2020 09:29:10 EST dr038sas No.613042 Reply
>>613036
But he has good, cheap dope. Why spend an arm and a leg on oxys or hydros.

Pregabalin to escape opi

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- Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:04:22 EST Tvr+dp99 No.611903
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Finally got my disabled friend to up his gabapentin to pregabalin and his 1st lot were
Only the 50mgs but hes either getting more every month or even larger ones (300 ideally haha).
Anyone addicted to smoking.h had much.experience using pregabs against withdrawals and how long did you take what dose ect

Gabapentin helps but pregabalin removes any withdrawals..its wonderful. Been my hope to build a supply
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Nigel Brookbury - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 19:22:13 EST FGPJbsQa No.613087 Reply
I'd rather have gabapentin than nothing at all but nothing can fill the opi void other than more opis so I try to temper my expectations. I'm week 4 no opis from 120mg methadone and feel better than week 1 but it's very slow going. Gabapentin has been useful to sleep and kill some RLS but its far from any type of miracle sure. If you wanted to go this route, I'd quicker choose a lesser but longer acting benz like clonazepam.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 19:29:27 EST tciyKPMT No.613089 Reply
Wtf I'm prescribed tonnes of gabapentin and it doesn't affect me at all even at diese of up to 4g. I just get drowsy. It sucks but I know some people get right blasted off of it.nb
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Esther Muvingbire - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 19:35:47 EST XfwZ9zQo No.613091 Reply
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im on 900-1200mg a day of preg its fucking horrid i wake up in w/d every morning started doing H to cope with the w/d and now you guys now how it goes. keeping it to snorting. also take 30mg of valium a day. Im an aus fag so i get clean H off the DN got sent a free half gram because the vendor cancelled and got banned its clean tho and good. sitting on one and a half grams and i use 20mg a day.

Took a shit ton of kpins and I dont feel the effects I expect at all

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- Fri, 20 Dec 2019 21:54:03 EST rHpSGXZY No.612695
File: 1576896843733.jpg -(1044633B / 1020.15KB, 1125x1037) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Took a shit ton of kpins and I dont feel the effects I expect at all
The best I can describe it is just a kinda dont care but kinda care effects doesn't really take me out of the world or anything, what shit is this?

I expected euphoria and relaxation. I popped so many tabs like at least 15x1mg or more, I know for a fact over 15. I am pretty disappointed. What's ways I can boost the effects? I don't have any tolerance persay. I am honestly kind of salty. These aren't even sketchy pedro behind the walmart buys its legit prescriptions.

Granted I just took it but I also took an additional doseage around 1x10mg.

Combine my day and I've taken at least over 20 tabs
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Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:05:03 EST vBUOIBuR No.612797 Reply
>>612695
Here's an interesting medical document:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19415589

>In a cross-sectional study, 215 cases of tramadol users or abusers who were admitted to Loghman-Hakim Hospital Poisoning Center (LHHPC) in Tehran during a 5-month period, from April 2007 to September 2007, were assessed to evaluate the occurrence of seizure.
> Analysis of patients with seizure, according to tramadol intake, indicated that most patients used tramadol in the dose range of 500-1000 mg followed in occurrence by 1500-2000 mg, then 100-500 mg, 2500-3000 mg, and 3500-4000 mg.
>CONCLUSIONS: Mean tramadol intake does not differ between patients with and without seizure, and the most common dose range in those with seizure is 500-1000 mg. We thus conclude that the incidence of seizure with tramadol is not dose dependent.
>NOT dose-dependent
There is clearly a genetic predisposition to the tram-seizure thing. And while safety should always be first, it's interesting to note that in parts of the world there are ppl who take up to 4000mg of tramadol on a regular basis.

As an aside, I've taken 1500 mg doses of tramadol, twice, and never had a anything remotely resembling a seizure. But again, always err on the side of safety.
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Hannah Clinkinletch - Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:32:18 EST PYdBNz2E No.612803 Reply
>>612797
Id like to agree with you as trams are easy mode to find but read on "apoptosis caused by tramadol and red nerve", it basically makes us dumber...
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Nigel Fanlock - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:34:42 EST F+hwOEbS No.613082 Reply
>>612695
So basically your the big gay and benzos are only recreational if you have anxiety.

Kratom to opiates

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- Fri, 27 Dec 2019 13:20:50 EST hV70rgsg No.612791
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About how much mg of oxycodone is a gram of kratom? Kratom hits me pretty hard but everyone says it’s weak
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Martin Cleblingwell - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 20:17:00 EST RDccE2wQ No.612997 Reply
>>612791
In my experience, 1 gram of quality Kratom is equivalent to about 1mg of oxycodone. So 10g = 10mg. There seems to be a ceiling effect with Kratom though, after a while, higher doses begin to cause more unpleasant effects.
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Edward Bunshaw - Thu, 09 Jan 2020 13:48:43 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613005 Reply
>>612972
its not quite the same, the idea is to keep your favorite brand as low key as possible
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Cedric Bennerchire - Wed, 15 Jan 2020 11:07:31 EST OHIHxMID No.613078 Reply
>>612972
People globally use this site and it is indeed illegal in many areas including areas in the United States. Not like people can’t find it on a google search but technically it’s not legal all around.

Lope

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- Mon, 06 Jan 2020 04:02:38 EST yNlWAqpg No.612962
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Is 144mg lope gonna kill me? Have you guys done this and been ok, I hope in 16 hours I’m not dead
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Hugh Monkinpack - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 01:36:05 EST yNlWAqpg No.613012 Reply
>>613010
i had to blink my eyes because my vision would get hazy
it seem like lope isnt the best to be doing because of all the wierd little side effects that i cant read about because ur not allowed to take an entire bottle of the stuff
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lol - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 02:03:31 EST oaWRMjn3 No.613014 Reply
>>613010
I thought this was a common effect from high doses of opis, used to always happen to me after large shots of dope, can't speak on like though. Everything I've heard says you should stay far the fuck sway from it especially in heroic doses but I know it ain't that simple
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Edwin Gundlenutch - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 09:02:02 EST FGPJbsQa No.613065 Reply
>>613010
Not with lope specifically but in the past year or so any time I w/d particularly hard , my eyes start to cross when I wear my contacts but not when I wear my glasses. Weird and annoying but I'm not sure of the cause.

Farewell Neil

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- Sat, 11 Jan 2020 05:05:45 EST LVEDbcS+ No.613025
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Ever since I was a kid this song reminded me of seconal. Like every singe time, I mean to this day.

"Red Barchetta"

My uncle has a country place
That no one knows about
He says it used to be a farm
Before the Motor Law
And on Sundays I elude the eyes
And hop the Turbine Freight
To far outside the Wire
Where my white-haired uncle waits

Jump to the ground
As the Turbo slows to cross the borderline
Run like the wind
As excitement shivers up and down my spine
Down in his barn
My uncle preserved for me an old machine
For fifty odd years
To keep it as new has been his dearest dream

I strip away the old debris
That hides a shining car
A brilliant red Barchetta
From a better vanished time
I fire up the willing engine
Responding with a roar
Tires spitting gravel
I commit my weekly crime
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- - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 05:10:34 EST LVEDbcS+ No.613026 Reply
>>613025
No really, Rush was and is simply the top of the greatest bands of mine. I think I know every song that was released, just at any part of any song by just a single moment of hearing them.
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William Dartstock - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 16:59:28 EST 30kb9fBZ No.613060 Reply
I hate Rush but they were definitely one of the greatest bands. Their music sounds relatively unique

Boofing oxycodone

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- Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:33:13 EST 68NR01mp No.612882
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I'm looking to get the most of the 30mg I have left, never tried rectal administration before but am no stranger to putting things in my ass and have heard it's often a good roa with fast onset and high bioavailability. I usually prefer to eat the first half of my dose, then sniff the other half around ~15 minutes later once im starting to feel the first half. How does rectal compare to these ROAs with oxycodone?
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Angus Dribberfield - Sun, 12 Jan 2020 01:52:24 EST 4tsYqeia No.613039 Reply
iv had great experience boofing my 15s.. onset is way faster and hits harder than oral

give yourself an enema before hand to be safe and boof it

Heroin conversion to Morphine

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- Sun, 12 Jan 2020 00:56:09 EST KcJQeKgs No.613038
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Say I wanted to turn my heroin back into pure morphine. I read one discussion saying it automatically degrades in warm (room temp) water over the course of about a day for about one shot worth. But does anyone know a way to speed up the process and make it more surefire that it has all turned into morphine? Apparently turning it basic and keeping it very hot can make this process speed up but then it would have to be turned back into a more acidic form to draw up.

Anyone have any thoughts or information pertaining to this endeavor? Perhaps a guide or something of the sort would be immensely helpful. On that note another quick question- which do you prefer the rush of more? H or morphine? Thanks in advance opi fam and happy nodding out there.
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lol - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 06:32:26 EST oaWRMjn3 No.613056 Reply
>>613038
I was under the assumption that this took a very long time to the point it definitely wouldn't be safe to inject. May I ask why you're doing this? Never met someone who preferred morphine over heroin that I know who' have done both.
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Fanny Pondlehall - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:01:09 EST JvOhl4yA No.613057 Reply
>>613038

what you want to know more about is called an ester hydrolysis. In this process, a water molecule breaks into two pieces, and creating an acid and an alcohol from an ester. The ester in your case is diamorphine aka heroin, the alcohol is morphine and the acid is acetic acid. While the only reactants are the ester and the water, this process is catalyzed by both acids and bases. In pure water this reaction would happen in a few days, while in acidic or basic conditions, it happens in a few dozen minutes maximum. The thing that complicates things here is: morphine is a base, an acid( a phenol, that is an acidic moiety) and an alcohol at the same time. You can't do this acid/base hydrolysis of heroin without turning morphine into a salt, either as a cation (when using an acid), or as an anion (using a base). What i would advise is a hydrolysis with a volatile acid or base (that basically translates to hydrochloric acid or ammonia), then using a pH paper, titrate it to neutral pH (with an acid (citric acid) if you used ammonia, with a base (baking soda) if you used hydrochloric acid) and extract it with an apolar solvent that evaporates without residue (the most practical in my experience is benzinum medicinale, a very pure form of petrol ether that you can buy at pharmacy, but of course if you have diethyl ether, chloroform, toluene or any pure and relatively light hydrocarbon you can use that as well). After extraction you evaporate the solvent to perfect dryness then you can use it as a #3 heroin (adding citric or ascorbic acid to dissolve for injection) . if you want to know more about a practical acid-base extraction, search for the extraction of DXM or morning glory seeds. (agent lemon, etc)
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Fanny Pondlehall - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:26:20 EST JvOhl4yA No.613058 Reply
>>613057

probably i wasn't very clear here. the problem isn't you create a salt, but at the pH you significantly catalize the reaction you have to add an amount of acid/base that makes the solution very acidic or basic and therefore unsuitable for injection. That's why you have to extract. Of course temperature drives the reaction forward kinetically, and you can obtain that by heating the solution without anything added, but then your solution will contain acetic acid and morphine at a 2:1 ratio if it was #3 heroin and at a 1:1 ratio if it was a #4 heroin, neither of them is suitable for safe injection

oxycodone makes me shiver

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- Sun, 12 Jan 2020 04:33:31 EST 4tsYqeia No.613041
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anyone else experience this phenomenon? when i woke up the other day after eating an op 40 at midnight and then boofing 30mg of oxy at 3 am, waking up at 7 am, then drinking a few beers. when i woke up i felt strong stimulation and intense shivering/grinding of my teeth in my mouth. im assuming the stimulation was borne from getting such good sleep and blood levels of the oxycodone decreasing over time, but the shivering in my mouth was so out of the ordinary, i had never experience it before and im well versed in morphinebased analgesics, not as much codeine based ones but still, wtf is this?

anyone else experience this? i googled and this doesnt seem common being i found nothing on it.

pic is my ear
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Betsy Darthood - Sun, 12 Jan 2020 18:38:20 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613048 Reply
>>613041
For me oxycodone was always an aggresive drug in that aspect, you didnt quite fully rest and woke up either dazed out of your mind or extremely neuropsychotic.
On the bright side W/D is usually short, but its hard on the body.
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1st gen

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- Wed, 08 Jan 2020 10:33:21 EST FiEtMWO3 No.612988
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whats the absolute best 1st gen antihistamine to take with opis
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Edward Bunshaw - Thu, 09 Jan 2020 16:15:29 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613007 Reply
>>612988

Should be mentioned that doxylamine can cause some renal issues.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 09 Jan 2020 16:52:44 EST bfr2yuHE No.613008 Reply
>>612988
Throughout childhood I was frequently prescribed codeine with promethazine, which works great. For stronger opioids, larger doses, antihistamine tolerance, etc. I would also like to echo hydroxyzine as my anti-histamine of choice to take with opioids. Shit’s real nice and is somewhat commonly Rx’d for anxiety or insomnia as well as at pain clinics for obvious reasons.

>I personally swear by quetiapine
God damn! Heavy combo for the vast majority of people. I took 50mg quetiapine IR with hydrocodone, morphine, and diazepam the other day. Shit was very sedating and I never found the drug all that sedating at the same dosage with other combos.

Hydrocodone BA?

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- Wed, 01 Jan 2020 15:47:30 EST Cgwib3Ps No.612872
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Happy New Year /opi/

I've been reading that the oral BA for Hydrocodone is 25%

Anyone think it's better to plug/boof hydro?

I can't seem to find any other ROA BA listed, just oral.

Anyone know of a rectal/anal BA?
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Hugh Monkinpack - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 01:47:00 EST yNlWAqpg No.613013 Reply
>>612961
lol if i bypassed th liver would i be able to take 4g of papa apap
im just thinknig thats why its bad right? so if i put it in my ass i think it would negate bad effect
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Jarvis Segglemane - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 06:39:19 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613016 Reply
>>613013
Shut up blinkey bill
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dr. m - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 12:20:16 EST sYKUcQbI No.613028 Reply
>>613013
That's not how it works. Rectal BA of APAP is significantly higher than oral BA. That means more damage and lower damage thresholds.

Remember guys, taking NAC before/with APAP products drastically reduces APAP liver damage. I recommend 2:1 APAP:NAC ratio up to roughly ~3-4G, after which any additional APAP should be matched 1:1 with NAC. Take your total NAC dose and divide it into two or three separate doses (two if total NAC is 3g or less, three if over 3g NAC)...take first 1/rd of total NAC ~0-30min before the APAP, the second dose ~3 hours after the first, and the final dose ~3 hours after the 2nd (or ~6hr after initial NAC dose).

NAC is used in the hospital for APAP OD, though IIRC, the doses used are much larger, something like ~10-15g total via IV, with something like half taken rapidly over ~30min period and the other half or so given over a multitude of hours. Since NAC has an oral BA of only ~10%, if you were to assume my shoddy recollection of the anti-OD dose being ~14g via IV, that would mean trying to treat APAP OD at home (talking APAP OD so bad that your skin is turning yellow) with look something like ~35g oral initial dose, ~17.5g dose ~15-30min later, ~17.5g ~15-20min later, then the other ~70g taken over something like an ~8-12hr period, maybe like 7g/hr for 10 more hours.

I haven't read about NAC use for APAP OD in years, so don't hate on me if I'm off by +/- 100% or so on the dosages a time protocols.

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