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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

Abnormal reaction to heroin?

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- Sun, 29 Dec 2019 00:12:18 EST LZ2GiWn6 No.612815
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So, opiates are my DOC by a mile. However, i noticed I act way different on heroin than typical opiate users. After IVing or even snorting an opiate(heroin specifically) I get a massive amount of energy and I behave as if I'm on a stimulant. I won't sleep and can go days without sleeping if do heroin every few hours. Sometimes my eyes get heavy and I find myself slightly nodding but usually as I start to come down from the high hours later. I'll often pace around my room, talking to myself and saying stuff that doesn't make sense in a seemingly manic state. The only theory I have is that I've done opiates for so long that I'm no longer effected by the sedation it offers and the energy/mania is fueled by the euphoria. Does anyone have an explanation they can shade? People often think I'm on stimulant or something. Sometimes my muscles will even involuntarily twitch.
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Fucking Chusslekirk - Sun, 29 Dec 2019 23:53:25 EST 4uxaep3G No.612836 Reply
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I get this a lot and I always chocked it up to ADD-ADHD, as it gives me paradoxical effects from stims (they make me very calm, tired)... I just kind of shrugged it off as "Well, if something in my brain makes stims have this reverse reaction, surely it's not too much of a stretch to imagine there may be another similar weirdness that causes it with heroin..."

Unsure if related, but Valium (though not other benzos) makes me violent/aggressive/very angry, no calmness.

I've used H/fent/god knows how many RCs that get passed off as H/fent for years, though admittedly usually prefer a few weeks at a time binges; longest being maybe 3-4 months straight... so I don't know if there's merit or not to it happening until you build a higher tolerance or what not like being suggested. No idea.

Bottom line is that we're not really created equal, we've all got some unique ass shit going on, which has probably been effected or formed by whatever other prescriptions we've been on, drugs we've done, maybe even whatever the fuck we're eating. Taking an assortment of chemicals that may or may not be cut and mixed with god knows what, made in god knows whose bath tub, doesn't really have a super consistent measurement line for what "normal" is...

y'know?

Also what the fuck is this "Stank Code" ... haven't been here for years lol, this is some shit (Get it? GET IT? HAHA, GUYS, COME ON, GET IT?!)\

Pic unrelated, I just love cats
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Fucking Chusslekirk - Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:11:24 EST 4uxaep3G No.612838 Reply
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>>612836
Actually while I'm chillin' in this sickass thread, I have noticed something with my most recent binges:

I can't seem to get all that high or I can't fucking breathe. Like I can't really take enough to get a really good nodd going (which for the most part suites me fine, as I enjoy just being high in general and functional - ive never gotten the 'euphoric rush' people talk about, so when the batch I buy has legs I'm happy as it feels the same to me from beginning to end). However, this breathing issue didn't used to happen.

I think it's either from the SSNRI I take (Effexor), or maybe from my hypothyroid issues I developed (genetic-hashis), but its treated with T3 so I'd think it shouldn't still be having a huge impact... but yeah, I've OD'd and had to be revived once before, and since then I'm always a bit more careful about pushing my highs... but for some time now, it seems like I can't even go full-nod, because if I get anywhere close I can no longer breathe or swallow - like my throat is just like eyyyy we're chill fam, we're going to have a nap without the rest of ya.

Usually I manage to just chill and force-swallow and try to take breathes from my nose only to prevent panic, but man, does anyone else get this kindof issue? Anything that helps it?

I generally prefer insufflation, don't have good/visible veins (never had a nurse not miss 'em ad infinium + last time I shot up was when I OD'd) and I've never tried smoking. Any chance changing up my method would "help"? I'm assuming you can't really SubQ or IM heroin, yeah?

I mean granted, I'm not 100% convinced most of what I'm getting off the DN these days isn't some kind of RC. I'm not even complaining with this latest batch, I seem to be extra horny, don't get any vomiting or nausea, and it's just pretty pleasant overall... though the vendor seems to have a decent/long standing reputation, so i'd assume if they were hustling RCs it would've been called out already haha

(Pic unrelated, I just also fucking like aesthetic pussy)

2 methyl Ap 327

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- Sun, 29 Dec 2019 14:03:59 EST OXdn6Sbc No.612825
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Got some of this shit. Supposed to be honest cancer hospice med. It sucks. ODSMT is Soo much better

CWE Cold Water Extraction on Codeine.

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- Sat, 28 Dec 2019 09:55:25 EST 0iryUJx0 No.612807
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Hey, pain patient here who's been reluctant to use opiates in the past. I've been prescribed morphine in the past and tried runs on gabapentin and codeine but after switching to a more local doctor I've found a sweet spot in just dealing with pain over long periods of time without opiates. I'm mindful of liver issues first and foremost being that I used to be an alcoholic.

So I've started to use CWE on Codeine to dump the paracetemol and I've had good success so far, solutions have looked mostly clear with little work (almost like water). However I've used a different brand for today's batch (another strength I was prescribed taken from another chemist) and the solution after being filtered twice is quite milky looking. I've gotten para on the filter paper but I'm not sure if this is a problem or something else.
Anyone familiar with this know how much I should be concerned? Is this just what happens between brands or something I should be concerned about and chuck?
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John Senningmidge - Sun, 29 Dec 2019 05:19:02 EST 93bRhH8j No.612822 Reply
>>612807

In the UK we have a brand of OTC dihydrocodeine/paracetamol tablets called Paramol. They have a pigment, titanium dioxide, in them not present in nearly all other OTC codeine/paracetamol tablets. It's insoluble in water but so fine it gets through 3 coffee filters in significant quantities, making the solution cloudy as hell.

Use less water, make sure it's super cold, check the filter paper to make sure there's still plenty of para getting caught and you should be fine. You could even leave the solution in the fridge for an hour to allow most of whatever is in it to settle out, then decant the clear solution into one glass, then filter the remainder
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Barnaby Bevingville - Sun, 29 Dec 2019 06:04:31 EST 0iryUJx0 No.612823 Reply
>>612822
>It's insoluble in water but so fine it gets through 3 coffee filters in significant quantities, making the solution cloudy as hell.
>You could even leave the solution in the fridge for an hour to allow most of whatever is in it to settle out, then decant the clear solution into one glass, then filter the remainder
I went back last night and did this with three filter papers and yeah, it still went through milky as all hell. I had para on the previous filtration attempts and on the last one there was almost nothing in it. As it dripped down, it was a clear milky solution so I guess it must just be a filler/pigment like you guys said. There was definitely a noticeable amount of filtrate that came out over all the filtrations so yeah.

I'm doing another batch today with the same brand, I'll do your advice for sure, use 20c water instead of 25-30 and mix longer.

>>612808
only reasonably objective way would be to always use the same amount of water so you can monitor the weight of the drained paracetamol every time, if it comes out at a similar weight I wouldnt worry, too much.
Is there an easy way to do this or will it just come down to getting better measuring tools (ie scale, more detailed measuring unit for water)?

Anyway, thanks for all the help. See you on the other side
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Alice Hagglebotch - Sun, 29 Dec 2019 13:54:44 EST PYdBNz2E No.612824 Reply
>>612823
Yeah I mean you could take the entire filter contents, dump them in a vat and weight that out, sure it has water and the amount of water will vary, but if you do it exactly the same every time it should give off similar readings.

But idk maybe its retarded, but I dont think its possible to dry the apap to try an weight that out.

Bupe with foxy/hydro?

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- Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:06:11 EST Cgwib3Ps No.612814
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Has anyone ever taken Oxycodone or Hydrocodone the same day as taking Bupe? I took a dose of almost 4mg this morning around 10. Do you think I'll get sick, or is that a low enough dose that I might just need more oxy/hydro as "usual"?
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John Senningmidge - Sun, 29 Dec 2019 04:28:20 EST 93bRhH8j No.612820 Reply
>>612814

Gonna assume you've taken it by now, but if you only waited 12 hours, you aren't likely to get high off your usual dose or at all. You need 24hours+ or more ideally, especially if you're not IVing a stronger drug like heroin or fent
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DTMO - Sun, 29 Dec 2019 04:49:27 EST AwUJAaVd No.612821 Reply
>>612814
You can never get precipitated withdrawal/sick from dosing another opiate after bupe, only the other way around. Even then only if you are opioid dependent.
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Eugene Futtingbury - Sun, 29 Dec 2019 17:52:13 EST HO+W7MWm No.612828 Reply
>>612814
I ended up just taking another 2mg bupe because I didn’t wanna waste my other pills. This morning I took another 2mg, but I guess I have to taper down lower then that if percs and norcos are going to give me any relief

Kratom

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- Mon, 23 Dec 2019 05:31:48 EST 8SVmd/v7 No.612726
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Does anyone here get whacked off kratom? It feels like a mild heroin to me. The weird thing is opiates don’t do anything to me. I have tried perc 30s, Vicodin 7.5s, opana 40s everything. It does nothing. One time i took a perc 30 and felt nothing and got kratom the next day and felt twice as high just popping pills of a really nice dark golden looking red Bali. Even just now I popped 4 pills and feel euphoria creeping on.

I usually dont feel anything off opiates until ive popped way too much and i need weed to kick it in. I get 0 effects off it no matter what unless i take a shit load or i smoke weed. Like one time i took a opana 40 with no tolerance at all and then i drank 2 40 oz beers with it. Felt nothing not a single thing. I went to someones house and then we smoked weed and just 2 or 3 hits of weed later and i was instantly knocked out and i went outside started throwing up i walked back to my house completely dead tired and i fell into my bed feeling dizzy and high as fuck.

And i have tried taking them with alcohol and didnt feel anything until i smoked weed then it kicks in super hard and i just feel really pissed off and dope sick. I drank a bunch of lean one time and then i felt nothing and i smoked a blunt and i just felt a rush of dizziness and mildly tired then after like 20 minutes i just felt high on weed and not really anything else.

Maybe its just because ive been taking kratom daily and I’m started to know what it feels like and stuff and I’m just getting used to it. Ive tried everything i got on the deep web and i have a lot of money so i ordered perc 30s, dhc (the dhc actually worked good it was cheap and i could take a lot and i felt a buzz but it was more face itch then anything), pints of lean, over the years my friends have gotten Vicodin prescriptions, stole them from grandparents, duladid, hydromorphone pills, ive done everything over years. My friend even had a crazy strong morphine prescription i think they were 50mg and they didnt do much. He gave me one one time i took it and i didnt feel anything and then i went out to my car and smoked some shitty weed and came back and i was like almost drooling, put my hands in my head, sick, felt really dizzy and nauseous, and crazy high

Even now i get drug tested so i used kratom and cbd hemp flower together and if i have a low tolerance or take a lot the two of them together fuck me up pretty hard but it feels more like a heavy body high. I actually cant take a lot of kratom early on because it makes me super tired and i get bags under my eyes and i cant get boners at all. Like my sex drive is completely dead with kratom I’m just slapping around a flaccid trying to force myself to j off

I have tried suboxone a few times and that always gets me super fucked up but i hate it I’m just sick, tired as fuck, nodding off, feel sick, disgusting, i throw up everywhere, i puke fucking non stop where ever i am, i fill up trash cans with puke, i fall asleep where ever the fuck i am. Why does that hit me so hard and no opiates do at all?

TL;DR feel nothing on opiates at all, kratom gets me mildly fucked up in small amounts, and when i smoke weed after opiates not doing anything i get super fucked up
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Jjzz !Zon3rvQH6s - Mon, 23 Dec 2019 08:51:34 EST RGcyt3Mi No.612730 Reply
>>612726

I never tried kratom til I already had a real high tolerance so its only ever kept me well

But my best friend hates opis but loves kratom. He takes 5g 2-3x a day, usually green/white strains and says it will get him to be almost nodding at a higher dose
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Cedric Sissledale - Sat, 28 Dec 2019 20:00:27 EST 30kb9fBZ No.612812 Reply
>>612726
you sound like a weed junkie and a oblivious. stop smoking weed (and kratom) for a week or 2 before taking opiates. kratom has stimulants and shit which make it much more apparent. you took way too much suboxone too. Have you tried injecting or at least snorting the right pills? Might have a bad stomach or enzymes. You keep taking opiates so you must feel something..

Tram and done

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- Tue, 24 Dec 2019 03:43:25 EST sbkBEnXq No.612743
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Can I take tramadol while on methadone? Will I precipitate wd's? Jw thanks guys!
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Morphiate !!FINz0LE9 - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 00:05:30 EST zaurUfK0 No.612760 Reply
This comes up every so often and I like to post whenever I can to help clear this up.

Methadone cannot cause precipitated withdrawals like Suboxone can since methadone is a full mu-opioid receptor agonist whereas Buprenorphine is a partial agonist of the mu receptor. When it comes to Suboxone (Buprenorphine) just make sure you are starting to feel withdrawal from your last opi dose before you take your sub dose to avoid precipitated withdrawal.
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Barnaby Fanbury - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:20:09 EST sbkBEnXq No.612771 Reply
Was just wondering if trams might fuck up a methadone buzz. Or possibly if it could increase the high even a smidgen.
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lol - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 19:24:58 EST IggaRoSW No.612773 Reply
>>612743
Did it a few times in all the years I've been on methadone, it's awful in my experience, somehow worse feeling that taking it alone. It seemingly magnified all the nasty side effects for me, nausea and that jittery feeling plus that spacey feeling, I have a feeling with some bullshit like tramadol it's going to vary widely depending on a ton of things, if you like it normally then I dont see it being a bad experience, don't believe it causes pwd or I would of wanted to die instead of just being pretty uncomfortable.

Opinpotentiation with xanax vs/ and valium

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- Wed, 25 Dec 2019 01:20:21 EST 1JTkEXlh No.612761
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7
I smoke n shoot h
Experienced enough to know the guidelines but more are welcome.

Hoe do you get your best euphoria or kicks

I used to plug hith dose ocy n take 2 to 8mg xanax depending on tolerance over time

Nods were certainly harder. Does valium work more sedating like Google said or is 10 tto 30 mg too low?
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 18:29:12 EST MZO/O/UH No.612772 Reply
>>612761
If you have no benz tolerance currently 10-15,g should be good. If not take all 30 it'll have a great synergistic effect,

Magnetized heroin?

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- Mon, 18 Nov 2019 00:27:55 EST 6yqIUMPt No.612009
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Does anyone know why the fuck my #4 is magnetized?
When i was chopping it up it would scatter around and away from the card i used like magnetic repulsion and kept sticking to random plastic shit like a magnet does to metal.
>pic is the smack i'm talking about
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Cedric Gibblehadge - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 22:18:10 EST w8jfvXUZ No.612332 Reply
Ketamine does this too sometimes. Dunno why
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DTMO - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 03:28:10 EST aRWRF2tE No.612337 Reply
>>612311
What?
I'm saying it makes sense for static electricity to interact with the credit card.
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Charlotte Dogglehall - Tue, 24 Dec 2019 10:49:33 EST NgDHvwms No.612750 Reply
>>612313

"naw dude this shits legit got it from mah darkweb hookupz 99.99% pure afghan shit right off da block brooo"

Potentiating Kratom

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- Sun, 03 Nov 2019 11:48:38 EST IGOdYKEx No.611640
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This is one of the few places that I trust when asking questions regarding potentiation because of how knowledgeable the user base is.

I remember a user named bombastus who would always be a wealth of knowledge with regards to my questions regarding enzyme inducers and inhibitors.

Anyway, I am new to kratom and do not know all that much about how to potentiate it.
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Dextrolord - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 13:29:28 EST t9+obISS No.611704 Reply
>>611665
>>611640
so I didn't see it in this thread and I thought I'd drop what I know for u cuz I am a long term kratom user. I have never heard of using tumeric and black pepper, might try it, but if I remember right, the white grapefruit juice is a good potentiator cuz it is a CYP2D6 inhibitor. And that is what makes it great for a lot of drugs.

I usually take the kratom on it's own in smallish doses for hangovers or for work these days, but back when it was use as much as I can stomach cuz I was fiending I would drink, grapefruit, benadryl, fuck really I did everything with it and I have yet to find something where the kratom in the background buzzing was a bad thing.

Kratom for me works as a potentiator for other drugs so I don't think to much about enhancing the kratom itself
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 24 Dec 2019 03:53:24 EST 9szZDnad No.612744 Reply
>>611640>>611640

there's an old addage that says
"potentiation ain't shit. just take more nigga"

and in the case of kratom, it is especially true. you really have to wonder to yourself why you're potentiating a drug and if it's worth the 10-20% increase. Can you really feel a difference of 5mg of morphine vs 5.5 or 6mg? no. can you realyl feel a difference in the kratom from batch to batch? probably not. you don't need someone with a knowledge of enzyme inhibitors to tell you that P450 (CYP3A4) inhibitors will inhibit the metabolism of mitragynine allowing for a longer half life because mitragynine itself is already long as fuck in the blood stream. we don't even know if mitragynine or the metabolite itself is providing the opioid effect and thus potentiation information is useless and possibly even countereffective to what you want to accomplish>>611640
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Thomas Binnerwill - Mon, 30 Dec 2019 10:51:39 EST cbXJ46oj No.612843 Reply
>>612744
>Can you really feel a difference of 5mg of morphine vs 5.5 or 6mg?
no one is feeling 5mgs of morphine anyways, much less a .5mg difference. most opiate naive would notice a big difference between 20mg and 25mg of hydro though, if you wanted to make an actually useful comparison. 100mg oxy vs 120mg is the difference between barely well and high for some folks.

there's another old addage, which says "anyone who could afford to 'just take more' wouldn't be dicking around with potentiation anyways" and it pairs nicely with "you don't have to post in every thread, especially if you don't really know a lot about the subject".
it's like someone asks for money saving tips and they get answered "why bother cutting coupons for 10% off when you can just make more money, duh!", lol. believe it or not, most people are already aware of the whole "take more drugs to get more high" potentiatior and anyone posting about that sort of stuff is probably looking for something a little more useful.

Kratom

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- Wed, 18 Dec 2019 16:35:48 EST +OptEnMS No.612656
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So will kratom actually help with heroin withdrawals or is it only good for staying off opaites once you're clean? I'm about to run out of heroin but have a 4 oz bag of red Bali kratom.havent tried any yet but in wondering if it would actually help lessen withdrawal that I'm about to start in t minus 8 hours.

Any advice, dosage, personal stories welcome. Thanks.
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ertr - Mon, 23 Dec 2019 17:21:19 EST yNlWAqpg No.612735 Reply
>>612656
easiest way to take it is mix it with oj and mango nectar and put a blender ball in it, cant taste the kratom acant feel the kratom
kratom
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Isabella Sangercocke - Mon, 23 Dec 2019 20:13:45 EST +OptEnMS No.612736 Reply
>>612735
>>612729
>>612728

I've got capsulse coming in the mail tomorrow. But now that I've been clean for like 6 days, I won't actually need 15 grams of kratom I'm guessing. I'll start with about 5 grams and see how that makes me feel.

I've discovered a new religion called drugs. Previously it was a pastime

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- Mon, 23 Dec 2019 04:11:49 EST 1JTkEXlh No.612724
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Woke up led down (fallen back)
Had a shot of 0.1g crack and 0.45g heroin
Nooded balls to the walls
Woke.up at 6am with it all still infront of my cooker
Sat for a piss for 2.5 hours
Still fading

Must free the people by nodding hard
Help me free the people

Did I break my nose?

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- Wed, 18 Dec 2019 21:31:27 EST 1ZaB8gon No.612659
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Love this site and never made a thread before but the internet is literally so fucking useless I feel like I have no other choice but to make a thread here.

Been a daily heroin sniffer for many many years. Iv taken many breaks so my current run of continuously being dope sick is going on 5 months. Long story short I CAN'T GET HIGH AT ALL USING MY NOSE. My nose took a bit of damage about two weeks ago cause one of my plugs was trying out a new cut that was terrible but that was over a week before this started and I was still getting high until last thursday night.

If any of you have any information, tips, tricks or even a name for what to call "mucus membrane no longer breaching the blood brain barrier" please leave anything you might know or even jokes cause if I don't laugh about this it will consume me with the holidays coming up. I have given up on trying to actually get high and so now I just do 2 bags in the morning and 2 around night just to keep my sick off entirely. I also spent 2 full days sober hoping that giving my nose time to heal would possibly help and it didn't at all. Not a single time while doing that have I felt ANY sort of high.

I still have to use daily to keep my sick off but I literally haven't broken a 1/10 high all week and that literally only lasted 45 seconds. Obviously it could be my plugs but my close friend is getting slammed by even doing a single bag and other people I know/trust are saying the same thing while I can rail 3 at one time and feel nothing.

My nose is by no means clogged but as far as I know I could be wrong and there's some kind of thin layer blocking the lining of my nose. I JUST DON'T KNOW AND IT SUCKS.

I was partying on the thursday night where I was getting pretty high off the exact same dope but I also drank a lot and I take wellbutrin so I dunno if any of that info helps but i'm literally just that fucking desperate for help and yall are the only non fucking squares on the entire internet.



I'm sorry if this comes off as selfish or a blog
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Doris Cankinstone - Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:05:27 EST 1ZaB8gon No.612678 Reply
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>>612664
Its either all of my plugs at the same time or my nose
Pretty sure its my nose, woke up this morning and blew blood out of my right nostril but my left is okay but still isn't getting me high.

>>612670
I am unfamiliar with the bio-availability of boofing street dope or even what method to use. Its literal powder thats mostly cut and so I assume you can't even chase the dragon with it unless you cook it down or something idk.

>>612677
My philosophy on doing dope has always been that I would rather do 3 bags up my nose to get as high as 1 in my arm. N in terms of boofin iv never considered it.
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Jesus Christ - Fri, 20 Dec 2019 11:20:02 EST jV1AQnVq No.612690 Reply
>>612678
>method
Put your dose in a solution of sterile water and suck it up into a syringe sans needle. Lay on your belly and put the syringe in your asshole (my understanding is that you don't want it in too deep cuz you get better absorption the closer you are to the hole but that might be hearsay). Slowly shoot the solution into your rectum. Wait a little bit and git high.
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Simon Gettingway - Sat, 21 Dec 2019 10:16:34 EST 1JTkEXlh No.612706 Reply
>>612690
Nah that's legit you can look up where the blood vessels in what parts of the colon ect lead to and the ones further in lead more to first pass metabolism (sounds like bro science but I know its legit for myself so I already benefit from the knowledge. You can either find out for yourself on the internet or by personal experimentation lol)

Odsmt

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- Thu, 19 Dec 2019 00:07:38 EST oDJTUIxW No.612660
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Thoughts?

I've only done this 50mg plugged so far just got a gram yesturday

Felt like 40mg of hydrocodone, euphoric nod and all, but kinda had a comedown

Is it less effective orally?

Also I heard rumors it's going to be made into scheduled prescription called omitram so it's on next year's chopping block of awesome rcs....
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dr. m - Thu, 19 Dec 2019 01:59:26 EST sYKUcQbI No.612665 Reply
>>612660
Yeah I heard from a quite solid source that it will 80-90% chance be scheduled within a year as well. Time to buy some if you can. I would, and on paper it's probably legal in most of SE Asia, but they don't enforce what's on paper...they enforce whatever works for them.
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dr. m - Thu, 19 Dec 2019 04:26:39 EST sYKUcQbI No.612666 Reply
>>612660
And yes, it's supposedly less effective orally, but we don't know by how much. From what people have told me, plugging is the most efficient method without injecting yourself.

Did you get it from China, or some domestic vendor? Dark net, clear net, or private email?

How much did you end up paying? I have 1 or 2 good sources, but I have to buy like 10g minimum for a price of $30/g or lower, and that's direct from China without a domestic US reshipper, which I refuse to ever use again.
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Stoned chocobo - Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:42:38 EST oDJTUIxW No.612681 Reply
>>612666
The one I got now was a single gram from domestic that I got along with 2fdck to make my order over 100$. About 40-60 a gram

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- Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:27:26 EST WPMOtVId No.612163
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i drink a fuck load of alcohol. why should i try dope? The local super market just started stocking bob's red mills poppy seeds.
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OctopusWulf - Wed, 18 Dec 2019 09:13:16 EST XvZ81YTx No.612654 Reply
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>>612648
If those BRM get you high post the expiration dates plox
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op - Wed, 18 Dec 2019 15:47:42 EST WPMOtVId No.612655 Reply
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>>612654
been nodding all afternoon off one gallon h20 wash on one bag. the one i used says feb 2021 . one more says feb 21. the rest say sept 2020. ill give one of those a shot next after i rewash.


could be residual vodka/klonopin/nasal inhaler, but i doubt it. i feel cool in a good way and my eyes have that heaviness mixed with twitchiness thats comes from mixing uppers.

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