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PST/PPT General Thread 4.0 by Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:54:55 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.571991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wow 1503+ posts of getting high af. Shout out to the anon who made version 1.0 of this thread.

You know what to do. This thread is ALL things poppy. PST, PPT, flake opium, mystery goo (what should I do?), memes nobody else understands, irrelevant political images, softcore fat black women nobody wants to see in private let alone be seen by others viewing said women at work/school (really man? really?), weeaboo shit (sigh...ohhhhhkay), topics related to the two or three posters actually qualified or smart enough to converse about flake opium production (but really please do it's so intriguing, and if you're not one of the two of three keep trying anyways and get back to us!), and of course legal/policy discussion. (Seriously, I'm ready to discuss poppy seed and pod regulation; I have my sources and constructive arguments mentally organized, finally, and would love to hear counterarguments from other academics/intelligent laymen).

If you post a pst question somewhere else about any of these things, chances are it's in the wrong place Unless you're a speedballing StimLion, then yeah your beautiful weeb contributions to this board (never stop doing you, live and let live, I guess) probably does belong in the BWN or elsewhere, not here (simply because you're not a PxT guy).

If it's ANYTHING poppy, ask it in here.

Enjoy your morphine with the tiniest dash of codeine and other goodies that makes every bag like smoking a new strain of mystery hybrid weed. It's been five and a half long ass grueling days [%]before this not-so-anon anon expected a last minute piss test related to getting scripted benzs and tl;dr my southern doc delayed the process by reccomending xanax or equivalent in writing to my new northern doctor(s) without actually scripting me anything, so I got nothing tangible in return for the horrible wait and I now feel like garbage and had no chance to dose up all day until after my flight landed,
so I surely will in just a bit.

If anyone is concerned, mildly interested, or has side bets as to whether I'll ever get clean/get better/get divorced/begin shooting smack/eventually die of an OD, I'm actually getting monitored medical help now (GP, MD Psychiatrist, possibly MD addiction/maintenance specialist) and my life has 180'd for the better even while being encouraged to stay on this stuff, for now. My wife's happy, I'm happy, so life is good. But I have to prove the changes I seek through future effort and action.

Anyways, less about me, MORE about you! Lurk forever but afraid to come out and get involved? Be a Trip in our own containment thread! We're one big happy pesticide pouring, goat-shit guzzling family ! We need more people to provide their life stories for entertainment, something the marginalized or isolated people can relate to or resonate with, and to get me the fuck out of the spotlighting in our corner of the universe. If you're committed to being an anon for life, please at least stop by and post hello when you read this thread! If you're high and usually post in the BWN, atleast post here first and then in the BWN so that the BWN remains on top while we accumulate post counts that reflect the level of seed/pod/puddy/straw consumption that's actually consumed by our micro community.

Got a bunk bag? Sipping on some fire brew? Let us know, in acronyms, where and when (expiration dates) your source is from! Please do it here and not on the great winding River market. That will be the death of us. If you must, rate 5 stars and don't use any words.

Please feel free to rate your seed strength and describe the cleanliness of the high in this thread (PLEASE do!), but

>PLEASE PLEASE succinctly premise it with a generalized explanation of your current and past tolerance to all opioids so we can take your review for what it's worth. Any review is worth reading, but we need to know if you're a newbie or a veteran mud water muncher/abuser of other opioids.

Let the good times roll!!

>8oz of SN 9/11, 3.6mg etizolam throughout the day (family goodbyes, fuck), earlier on two Corona Extra with key limes, one overpriced airport double well, a whole key lime pie to myself in the airport, and one very interesting blood test report that you guys will want to hear more about.

PST doesn't raise your iron or calcium levels significantly* if you only do two washed for 5mins each or less**.

Love you all. I will be on suboxone, kratom, or PST maintenance facilitated by a dual chamber timed/key safe by the time this thread dies. PST, you were the best of times. You were the worst of times. Variety is the spice of life.

P.S. ask your doctor for a OIC medication if you're already scripted opioids and also use PST that you can get by with without them noticing. You can thank me later.

Pic indirectly related: two drugs (heroin aka BTH and U-47700) whose "new" (tried/dependent for first time in last 30-60 days) user populations, when combined, would probably equal nearly half our poppy user population if it wasn't for PST/PPT products.

Stay safe out there and find yourself some free/cheap Narcan! PST is just as dangerous as oral morphine. Let us know if your area doesn't have it and we will give you resources to acquire some. It may just save your life.

¡Cheers!

Here's to hard fact indisputable evidence that 8oz of daily quality seed washed are objectively higher than even 6 beers a day, let alone hardcore alcoholism (way lower iron, HUGE drop in AST/ALT, on and on, just from not drinking booze instead). Tell the alcoholics in denial that numbers don't lie! I'm all for individual liberty to drink, but people need the facts
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:58:34 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.571996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571991
>>571991

Stupid broken spoilers. I wrote them right im 99% sure since I took so much time. I've requested Quet'z help and this should be in sexy shape soon enough sometime this week.

Sorry guys, was trying to be respectful and make the short and long versions for readers of all ages, interest levels, and attention spans.

My second post got deleted, but...

basically I'm a guy who was just labeled positive for genetic hemochromatosis (unclear if I'm heterogenous or homogenous, hetero roughly 1 in 10-20 for Northern European descent, 1 in 200-500 have both alleles and are basically screwed, and with my high ferritin I'more likely to have both alleles than I want to acknowledge) with significant former liver damage from international Hep A infection and 2-3 years of varying alcoholism years ago, and I got my blood tested in early Summer 2015.

The only substantial variable that changed since that 2015 test and the Jan 2017 test was cutting out daily booze, NO booze and kava together period (though this was rare after 2012-2013 anyways), 97%+ kava use reduction, no smoking weed (only vaping it, and I'd say 80-95% less weight than before, now like 1g of 25% per month lol max), and when I would drink booze on rare occasion (wedding, bachelor party, this recent vacation, maybe two days total at home where I downed 6oz of vodka to see if I'd get a rush, and I just felt sick after) I'd vape a little weed and pound waters with milk thistle before, during, and after the drinking, with weed with it almost always (supposedly helps protect brain from neurotoxicity),

and meanwhile I took on a heavy PST and moderate etizolam habit with a tiny dabble in cLam (10-15mg total), ethylphenidate (like half an 8 ball max, shit was cut or weak, with either 50mg plugged or 100mg oral feeling like 20-30mg oral ritalin max, with oral "ethylritalin" just plain sucking tbh.), 9x2.5mg snorted triazolam, and roughly 4-8 30-40mg Vyvanse every month for the past maybe 3 months max.

my iron levels went from super worried go-to-hospital-bleed-him-out-today-he-needs-a-new-liver by 30-50yo to NORMAL levels by Jan 2017, calcium is back down to normal, AST/ALT are NORMAL, and so many other tests are all great.

All I'm missing is a little low on calcium because i was avoiding it on purpose due to iron absorption fears, and low vitamin D because there's no sun up here, no drinking milk with extra vitamin D, no multi vitamin due to fear of issues on previous tests, and low calcium which of course helps cause low Vitamin D absorption.

>feel free to ask me anything about worries related to organ/liver damage from poppy products, especially if you can't afford to get blood tests of your own. I'm only one case but I want to help others best I can.

>Let me be the community guinea pig. If anyone is curious abut a specific enzyme or levels test in the blood, let me know and I'll look for it or request it with my next testing in a few months.

To be clear, my doctoral program is NOT in medicine, pharmacology, or the natural sciences, so IANA(M) and IANAD(O). I'm not formally educated in science, just political science and city management basically.

on side notes:
triglycerides, LDL, all of it dropped like a rock from eating healthy portions of SN's healthy non-poppy products...

specifically the cheap dried bananas I'm sure other companies have the same shit but I'd rather get 10lbs of poppy seeds, tons of banana chips thatnare healthy/God-tier prepper currency/bartering food. hear me out

(I can double check, I think it's like $24*2 for two 5lb bags of fire seeds so 48, bananas are all nearly same price 3lb and up so you get 2x3lb bananas @$2/lb so thats 47.98+$12= $59.98 just shy of $60, so you get their other cheapest 1lb item the sugared kiwis for $2.50)

(bananas are $2.50 for one pound but might as well get what i suggested as price drops to $2/lb or 1.99/lb when you get 3lback bags, and the tiny bag of sugared kiwi is something besides more bananas, makes you look less like a morphine junkie, more diversified diet, and can be a God post-PST snack as they're s sweet.

the $2 or $2.50 puts you over that ~$59.98 or whatever into ~$61.98 or ~$62.48, then apply RT10SC 10% off, and BAM your order is now $6.XXL cheaper.

>So instead of paying $60 for two bags from the river two day ship , you get the same two 5lb poppy bags, 6lbs of DANK high fiber high fattening low sugar dried bananas that helps loads with constipation if you chew them well, and 1lb of sweet sugared kiwis to suck on and eat after nasty PST mud water you're a bitch, all for just ~$54-56.50 WITH the discount, and it all arrives 4-5 days MAX from the day you order it versus 2 days with river boat speed pass.

>Similarly, you can do 3 poppy seed 5lbag bags (15lb) for ~$71.97-10% so basically $64.XX instead of paying NINETY FUCKING DOLLARS for the same exact shit off the river. tl;dr you can get crates too but the prices are so similar per pound that IMO getting 25lb over 15lb to save like straight up $3 isn't worth getting stuck with 25lb of mediocre instead of 15lbs of mediocre, as well as increased "why does he need that many? obviously a junkie." we want to stop that imagine as a community when we can you know?

They even offer 25lb for $114.99-10% so like ~$104.49 for 25lbs instead of $150 through the river. only downside is river is 2 days with speedboat pass while SN HQ is 4-5days as in place order on Sunday afternoon it arrived on Friday both times.


I ordered FTL E 4lbs to hold me over until the upcoming weekend SN order to come in. I will review and compare them to SN. sure it's $7/lb river prices instead of SN $6/lb prices (or they're $4.XXL prices-10% on their direct site), but the literal total was a few dollars below the $29.99 when I don't need a whole 5lbs for Wednesday to Friday anyways, and I get to try something new. did I mention the whole only having to stretch my 2-4oz left for just two days?

Don't forget to use RT10SC for 10% off (can total $60 for free shipping and then use code to drop down to $54 or whatever and still get free shipping; outside of NY only I believe there's no sales tax applied to sale itself just your annual taxes you "report"). sometimes they offer 20% off during certain times like thanksgiving, maybe mothers day.

Pt. 1/2
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:59:05 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.571997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571996
Pt. 2/2

>If you get a bunk peppery smell bunk bag from SN, there's a HUGE problem. I've never had peppery smell from them ever and I've never had any peppery seeds be above a 2.5/10 ever, ALWAYS bunk usually 0/10.

if peppeey smell/taste a few seeds, either send back immediately or ONLY use like 2-4oz MAX, DON'T drink right away, wash the fuck out of it, i mean three good washes atleast 5min on the first one 3-5min on the second and 90 secs to 5mins on the third, and with all three cups lined up, do whatever you gotta do to finish them all in 10 mins MAX from beginning to end, 15mins max max of you have a boi pussy. use a chaser if you must, but only tiny sips to clear palate so you don't get full of liquid. I suggest big 1/3-1/5 of entire glass entire mouthful gulps every 10-30 seconds, plug nose if necessary if you're a bitch.

if you feel absolutely nothing at all, seal it up and call them. MAKE SURE you are sober and coherent. Explain you're not satisfied after many months of good service and that the taste isn't there (you BETTER do some fucking RESEARCH into the cuisine so you can explain what they're used for, some ethnic festival or for your church's *insert nationality*-themed bake sale, memorize a few finished foods before you call that are made in that country and require ounces and ounces of the seeds. Also to reach the $60 on the dot you can just get 2x5lb poppy bags, 2x3lb bags of cheap banana chips, and 1lb of the cheapest kiwi slices sugared.

I'm not a shill nor am I paid by them. I tell I like it is. I have 4lbs of FTL (E) coming in Wed. off the riverboat and 15lbs of SN coming in by truck/plane from SN HQ (only paid ~$64 versus $30 from amazon, thinking about selling them on Craigslist etc for Amazon prime one day shipping price equivalent, so $30+4 (I'll make it $35, maybe two for $65 three for $100 idk, or $30 flat each if I know they're below 4.5/10), and $3-20 for delivery depending on distance or no fee for pick up just down my street (I'll use Uber pricing minus uber's cut as a good price gauge), maybe save the particularly fire batches (7/10+) and do 2-2.5lb rebaggings for $20, tell people they're from the turtle instead, and make a small business out of it.

I'll only say the following once:
I'm genuinely sorry if I come across as a pretentiousness fuck. I'm just trying to help. If things hadn't gone the way they did as certain point in my life I might have dropped out two degrees ago and used the refund checks to shoot up morphine IR on the reg, dillies for a treat, opana for the weekend deviation from the norm, swallowed coca cola budget oxy XRs and maybe even plugging garbage street #4 after afew crude methods of "washing it" when low on cash, and resort to ultimately growing/buying pods/seeds/straw. All this while consuming pressed cheap bars on the go and use homemade PG solutions of Etizolam/Alprazolam/maybe pyrazolam (if not powder then pellets), few strips of cLam to move it to next level occasionally, and probably Diclazepam for some false sense of security as a detox shield tool, all the while using US passport to travel the world and disappear with capital I amassed simply because machines calculate how much money is a safe bet for a young married white guy.

not trying to romanticize bottom barrel life destroying addiction, but I'm tired of the sense of "Mario has not idea what it's like, he's obviously a special snowflake clueless privileged fuck face." I know it's just me projecting my own fear of an inability to assimilate here, but man I had the single mom three jobs no dad empty fridge and an empty house (empty of adult supervision) most of my life.
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Ernest Challymadge - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:40:59 EST ID:srdCL5Ij No.571998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well shit I finally lost my shit.

A year of pst on and off and I'm addicted. I dose every day now.
So how hard is it to get into bupre clinic?
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breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:29:06 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.571999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Eh. If it were me, I'd've made the kept OP really pertinent, then put personal stuff into an addendum post. Image boards srs business :)
Good info though.

Question. Can I make a semi-longterm sanitary solution by doing:
wash seeds -> filter seeds -> add some etoh (up to 5% idk) just enough to kill bacteria.
Does that sound like it could be sipped on for a few days without taking it all at once?
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pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:16:06 EST ID:daXiRiJr No.572002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571998
Super easy as long as you have money
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pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:23:17 EST ID:HYaLpJTh No.572004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571996
Dr.M I feel ya I have hep C .if I sip anyone alcohol its like my liver wont even process it and I dont get that little feel good from alcohol just liver pain and thoroughly sick throughout my body
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Dr. Crane - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:42:42 EST ID:iHTGbEoO No.572009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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meant to do a report on here last week but totally forgot sorry guys. here goes.

>SN 3LB river 9/1 X000LFGXP
heard some people complaining about this batch but it was fire as fuck for me. I see a lot of people complain about the thebaine in SN but I've personally never had any nausea and have been able to get heavy nods I can't fight off. this batch was no different.
>FTL (E) 4LB river December 2018 X000RKPD64
SN was out of stock so I tried something else for the first time. bag smelled exactly the same as SN so I figured all was well. when it was ready I noticed a little bit of white shit like particles floating around in it. looks like how pst looks after it sits out and bacteria grows in it. said fuck it and drank it anyway. the taste was also slightly off like old pst. I felt good and could tell it was legit so decided to drink more and that's when it happened. full blown abdominal pain. no nausea at all just felt like I had a boulder in my guts. tried to eat a little snack which made it 100 times worse. felt like really bad indigestion. tried it again the next day being more careful to see if it was just a fluke and symptoms returned. can't even get a nod of this shit because of the pain in causes.

not sure if that is what thebaine feels like but from what I've heard here it's more nausea related. has anyone else experienced something like this? now I have about 3lbs of this shit that seems to be useless. Guess I should've just gone with SN but a size up.

pic related is the nasty white shit floating around in the FTL batch. I tried to fish some off the top with a spoon the next time I tried it and I didn't feel as bad as the first time but it was still extremly unpleasant.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:34:25 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571999
hello, nice to meet you.

Yeah sorry the spoilers fucked up, but I almost like the wayit is now. All but the most pertinent shit is visually available.

I promise it has nothing to do with me anow everything to do with people pills (not to pick you out of the crowd buddy). He needs to know from somebody with similar problems to him that this shit won't kill his liver.

Even if I got ridiculed for the structure of my OP, just reaching him was worth it to me.

Sorry though, I'll hit the man up on IRC AND try to get it fixed. Obviously I wasn't sober but all the info is decent IMO.

>drinking 3rd wash I fell asleep holding in my hand lol!
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:40:41 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572018
is visually *blocked

2017 resolution to not use a phone on this site.
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Cornelius Wellyway - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:42:44 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572009
Yeah I had a 3lb 9/1 SN riv bag. I took less than my usual dose and at one point woke up passed out on the inside of a coffee table with glass everywhere and wounds all over.

I just ordered more today lol.
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Dr. Crane - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:05:55 EST ID:iHTGbEoO No.572021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572020
lol. I took about half my usual dose to test the waters and was nodding way sooner than usual. couple of nights had me waking up gasping for air so if anyone has any 9/1 SN stay safe and take it slow.

really bummed out about my FTL batch. this was the first bunk batch I've ever received from anywhere. I mean it's not bunk but as I explained in my last post it just makes me very ill. I wonder if it has to do with everyone's bodies being different or if this is a thebaine thing.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:24:25 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572009
9/1 was stronger than average, stronger than most bags recently, however not exactly earth shattering.

I agree with another anon from before that the 9/1 bags seem to be inconsistent even within the same bag. Could be placebo, but I thought the same thing before he even posted it. One brew is solid 4-5/10 next time same weight hits like 6.5-7.5. 9/11 was not the same way.

9/1 was better than 9/11.

my first ever FTL E comes in Wednesday. Then all of the SN (15lbs) comes in this weekend.

Over half will be locked away not for me to use but for her/actual pain emergencies. As my tolerance is down quite a bit (8oz had me soaring and stopped the sobbing about leaving Florida), I'll be able to compare different lot numbers as I'll be taking the same exact dose at the same time interval between uses anyways.
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Ernest Bupperworth - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:32:32 EST ID:+rJY0K/n No.572025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572023
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Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:41:39 EST ID:+rJY0K/n No.572027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572023
just be careful with your first FTL(E) batch. mine didn't smell peppery and had nothing to be alarmed about but it fucking made me feel like I had an ulcer. made a 100% recovery today just don't have anything to nod off and have this bag sitting here starring me down. contemplating getting another SN bag.

It could very well just be me but I'm just giving you a heads up may want to go slow with it at first, especially if its a DEC. 2018 exp w/ lot code X000RKPD64. It's not insanely strong or anything but then again I didn't really get to the point where I would drink as much as I do from other batches. Just really really bad pressure in the stomach. If anything try to take it on an empty stomach and if you do feel what I'm talking about for the love of god DONT eat anything at least until it calms down even if you get to that point where you get your fix and appetite comes back.

>>572025
sorry think this post was me on accident. was trying to setup a trip cause I've been lurking here for years. not sure how to delete the post.
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break-a-bond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:04:26 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>What is more, after the fraction including heroin was collected from the eluent of preparative HPLC, it was concentrated and dried by evaporator. Then a good deal of monoacetylmorphine was found because heroin was likely to hydrolyze when it was in water especially heated.
So if you prefer monoacetylmorphine, then all it takes is adding water and heating up apparantly?
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break-a-bond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:06:23 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572035
Oh this isn't the BWN. Disregard.
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Nathaniel Puzzlestone - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:37:16 EST ID:neyiguwY No.572042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571999

Wash it with isopropyl then pour it onto a tray to dry. You get a nice little ball of potty putty that you can just eat orally and it supposedly lasts for months. Takes like 10-20 hours to dry 500ml of iso out.

Also, is the 9/1 SN really that good? I've got an unopened 2# bag I haven't gotten around to yet. Kind of disappointed with the WGN I got (seems to induce pretty heavy nausea even at lowish doses) so I'm excited to try out the SN in a few days.
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pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:42:38 EST ID:WjaZSBeT No.572043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572042
Why would anyone buy WGN the best thing ive heard about it is that its ok at best
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pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:44:33 EST ID:WjaZSBeT No.572044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572042
Do you just wash the seeds in the isopropyl and then strain and then pour that mixture out on a tray and let dry?
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pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:57:41 EST ID:ul8wrln2 No.572048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572044
If so how much iso and how much poppy seeds.
Sorry for the multiple posts.
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breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:58:45 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572044
That'll do it. You could do a quick second wash, idk if it helps. (requesting solubility info).
Or you could get fancy like pic related if you'd like.
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what !!QJGTUbuf - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:00:40 EST ID:3qNK86pI No.572051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572048
pills, you keep posting berserk stuff and i gotta say, i love it.

nb.
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Caroline Mozzletitch - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 01:19:28 EST ID:rsGgQ1Xs No.572060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Awesome!! New PST thread for my big SN update.

So I got my 8 pounds of SN from head quarters today.

3 x 1lb. bag Identical expiration dates and lot #'s 10/3/2017 Lot:T4R2A437
5 pound bag 9/29/2017 Lot:T10R13656

I'm very satisfied. they aren't those 9/10 legendary batches from the past. but these are at least 7/10. maybe even better but my tolerance may be lying to me.

No red packaging or red seeds. no pepper smell. The normal nutty smell and bitterness is a little bit lesser than some batches I have gotten in the past, but like I said, this is what SN nuts are like, those crazy batches can't be the standard we use to compare. those are the exception.

I can't tell a hug difference between the seeds from the 1 pound bags and the 5 pounds bag. However I'm on my first glass of the smaller bag, cracked the 5 pounder first but opened a little bag to compare. If i notice any big difference from the bags as i go through them I will let yall know.

So SN from headquartes is a go right now /opi/! Unwashed and very active. I'm itching like a motherfucker. gonna have a cigarette under my awning in the backyard and enjoy this crazy storm.

Order while they're hot /opi/!! Literally!!!
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Caroline Mozzletitch - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 01:31:22 EST ID:rsGgQ1Xs No.572062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572060
Oh I forgot.

In comparison to the FTL(E) and WGN seeds I have received this past week, the SN i received today is a good order of magnitude stronger than the WGN. It is also a bit stronger than the FTL(E), not as vast as a difference between SN and WGN, but definitely stronger. Also SN seems like a faster onset than FTL(E), so you tell me what that means /opi/.

So ya, once again, SN from HQ is in the lead of the tea race right now.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:18:03 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572048
Need to use enough to saturate and be able to agitate the seeds. So a similar amount as you would use water to make tea. High percentage drinking ethanol or high percentage isopropyl are the easiest/safest to use but methanol works a tiny bit better, however since methanol is pretty never required to be food grade because no one should ever be consuming it anyways it isnt required to meet the same purity or safety standards as drinking ethanol or isopropyl since its used as an antiseptic.

I also just found a new concept flipping through an old book on morphinan chemistry that im probably going to try soon. A few different experiments actually though i wont have the resources for any of them till next monthish. Im thinking next time i have some form of pst/ppt im going to try to make diazomorphine. One of the others is a little more complicated and requires morphine HCL so ill be skipping that. However im thinking the same reaction im looking at can be modified for buprenorphine hcl which i do have and might try once i acquire the reactants. I have no idea if it will end up producing something active using buprenorphine but im guessing it should as i dont see any reason it would behave differently than running it on morphine or codeine. I'll let you guys know if either experiment works out after i try them. Im aiming to end up with diazomorphine which i have no idea is active or not and a halogenated buprenorphine analog which i also dont know will be active, i was intrigued by the simplicity of both reactions and the availability and price of the reactants so itll probs happen next month. I may also try to form the 2-nitro analogs of the constituents of tea, 2-nitromorphine, 2-nitrocodeine and the like but we'll see as im unsure if i can find the reactant for cheap, though i suspect i can.
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Caroline Mozzletitch - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:35:10 EST ID:rsGgQ1Xs No.572100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572082
I thank the /opi/ Gods everyday for /opi/'s in-house chemists.

God speed and good luck Q!!!
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Nicholas Suttingbud - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:02:03 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just got a 3lb 9/23 riv-SN bag and took ~2/3lb. I'll report back eventually, maybe even today.

They have a new bag design w/ a red stripe at the top but the seeds taste/smell/look like always before.
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Cornelius Pobberbanks - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:37:00 EST ID:YCAG1Olj No.572105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571991
I get that the BTH means black tar, but what about the u44? What does that mean?
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Nicholas Suttingbud - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:44:28 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572105
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-47700
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Cornelius Pobberbanks - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:10:04 EST ID:YCAG1Olj No.572108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572106
Lolwut u44 means u47??? wtf?
I've heard u-4, u47, u4-ee-uhh (like 'euphoria') but never u44
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Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:41:06 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572060

i just got a 10/3 that isnt bitter at all and it smells like peanutbutter really

i hope this isnt inactive god damn that would suck
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pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:59:57 EST ID:0lYYY5oM No.572113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572112
Well you are the same one to post on circlejerk.
Why dont you report back after you tried them.
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Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:03:05 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572113

i didnt post that, i just happen to have the same batch that smells like peanuts and tastes about 1/10th as bitter as usual
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pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:22:33 EST ID:b18OmpPK No.572118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572114
Your post and that post are almost identical,regardless not doing them and just saying what you said helps nobody.

What size bag and what lot #?

I received a 5# bag lot #T7R557.. Date 10/3
And they were extremely bitter.

I will post my full review in a few hours.
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Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:24:42 EST ID:6J7Q2rH9 No.572120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
has anyone had success with the new SN with the red line? I'm hesitant to order some but I also want to get some seeds for Friday so I'll have to order later tonight if I decide I'm going to do that.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:28:00 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572116
The no aluminum is if you first based the alcohol with calcium hydroxide, calcium oxide, potassium hydroxide, or sodium hydroxide or pretty much anything else with K, Na, or Ca.
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Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:28:41 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572118

actually both he and i did try them but it's only been about an hour and i'm just complaining in advance

i have that exactly batch and serial. how long do you shake for? these are the least bitter seeds i've ever had
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pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:36:56 EST ID:0lYYY5oM No.572123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572120
I have not personally though I have seen people say they were good.
They all freaked out because of the new bag but its the same product in a new bag. However even after those were released ive made purchases from HQ and the river and am still getting the old bag.
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breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:55:32 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572123
My tapering with #3 is only letting me sleep for about 3 hours before I wake up in pain.
Is it better to use pst in that case?
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Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 15:30:28 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572122
>>572118

it's been about 2 hrs, they're not inactive but they're definitely like half as weak or worse. i don't think the batch number or date matters much, mine has exactly what yours has on the back and it's definitely weak, not bitter, and you would notice the smell. idk what the concensus is on date and lot number actually meaning anything since i've never bothered checking until now, but given this i suspect they don't mean much
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Nicholas Suttingbud - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:15:43 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572101
> Just got a 3lb 9/23 riv-SN bag and took ~2/3lb. I'll report back eventually, maybe even today.

Reporting back; 3 hours later. This shit is good. Definitely not the best I've had but 7/10. I'm getting those good classical waves of sedation. It's like 75°F here, I went outside for a while with a T-shirt on and the wind blowing against my skin felt cosmic af.

Shiiiit since starting this post these waves have gotten stronger; I'm going to take a bunch of ephedrine b/c I feel like I could pass out any sec.

>>572125
Yes, pst is active for a long time and will help you sleep.
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pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:50:41 EST ID:6vuBG+xO No.572138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572131
Yea dude im pissed. It took away my withdrawals but no discernable high ...

What was your dose btw?
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:39:30 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572125
Id say it is. It should enable you to take a smaller dose that still keeps w/ds at bay for a solid 8 hours or more with out really reaching for that euphoria.
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Nell Cluffingshaw - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:33:39 EST ID:w9sTQZeg No.572190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Daily user here, do 1kg washes daily for years of local decent seeds, just discovered SN and holy fuck was I missing out. Been in acute withdrawals for a few days cuz I can't bring myself to buy more local seeds when my SN order is out for delivery.

I gave up pst for 16 days last month, thats how long 150mg lasted me, and I gotta say fuck that stuff, made me feel braindead, no good feels and infinite nods. Kept waking up on the floor or in my chair covered with drool. Got some really bad dermatitis from drooling on my face so much lol. I was probably overdosing, as I was just eyeing out the powder and snorting it.
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:46:25 EST ID:hbbaz23m No.572194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572190
150 mg of what? You didn't say what you were taking...
Nb
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Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:10:34 EST ID:7W+b41pu No.572213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
broke down and ordered another SN from the river. the 3lb wouldn't be in Stock for about a week so I upgraded to a 5lb. mind of nervous hearing things about the new bags but also anxious cause I heard 5lb bags are where it's at. should be here tomorrow. I will do a report if so and keep you guys posted. nb
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David Worthingbanks - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:21:45 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572138

idk i dont measure, only eyeball. maybe like 150-200 grams but i was only dosing 50 before. i keep it low



>>572213

you really shouldnt have, the 10/3 is so shitty. the last batch i had was not very good, and this is about 1/3rd the strength of that
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Henry Blabberwater - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:51:05 EST ID:w9sTQZeg No.572264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572194
Sorry, meant to say fent.. Anyway, bag came in, I eyed out a half lb (SN 6/27) and nodded for like 8 hours, 19 hours later my pupils are still pinned and I'm hella itchy. Loving this, can't believe 5 lbs is gna last me 9+ days, I feel like I can even stop daily dosing... Emphasis on the can (is that how italics work? Don't make fun of me..)
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Henry Blabberwater - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:53:06 EST ID:w9sTQZeg No.572265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572264
5lb bag to be pacific, forgot bag size might make a difference.
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:47:09 EST ID:KYOPpK71 No.572296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Posted in the BWN about 40 minutes ago after drinking 2.5 oz of 10/3 SN. Im feeling pretty fucking good. Drank a few gulps more after doing a second wash and adding it to the original half left. I would say these are pretty good, I drank it on a full stomach and I'm high as fuck yet again. Maybe not quite as good as the 9/1 bags but still good. I'd give em a solid 7 out of 10 on the potency scale.
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:49:11 EST ID:KYOPpK71 No.572297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572215
Really?? I think they are good lol. Guess that's the benefit of only using once a month.
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Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:35:00 EST ID:+rJY0K/n No.572301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572215
did yours have a red seal? cause it seems some of the same dates have been getting different results for a while now. mine still didn't have this new red seal everyone is talking about and this shit is kicking my ass. I made only half of my regular dose and still have 2 more glasses to drink of this first wash. I will be nodding tonight no doubt.

Mine is 10/3 aswell with lot number X000LFLGXF. shipped from TN.
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:07:21 EST ID:KYOPpK71 No.572312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572301
Our bag did have a red seal, # T5R157

Upc thing on sticker- X000LFLGXP
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Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:43:15 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The way I take it is I take say 3 maybe 4 pounds mic a bottle or two of water in and strain it all then I put it in a fleet enema bottle and give myself an enema usually around 10OZ I believe they are. It's cheaper than dope and plugging is my usual ROA for dope and it gets me plenty high. Why do so many PST/PPT people insist in making small doses like with a 2 liter bottle?It's so much more efficient to use an alcohol or simple water based solution on a large amount of pods or seeds and try to get the largest concentration possible in one batch with the smallest amount of water.
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Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:48:27 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I find liquid also works nasal when I do the small water, large material and concentrated method really well to thepoint where I just inhale from a saline nasal spray bottle and stay high all day. For me it beats oral, it's on point with heroin for me I mean morphine always has been my DOC I used to buy the 60s on the black market but what's the point when seeds are cheaper? The only thing I like about heroin more is its all black tar where I am which means 6MAM or whatever MAM that has very trippy effects. But hey, I only get to use heroin sparingly because I am a poor man and I can't put heroin on my credit card (I guess I could bitcoin but I just don't trust heroin being delivered to my house so when I get heroin I'd rather just get it delivered by my dealer)
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Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:57:15 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572315
And hey no rancid taste this way either. I don't even cramp too. It's a good way for me maybe someone else will try and like it like I do. You need to brew a batch of say 2 pounds though with very little water though for it to work comfortably and have a fleet enema bottle the extended ones not the smaller ones. If you do the nasal thing I mention dump some on a plate and with a syringe after letting the liquid sit for a long time you'll notice dark spots and milky looking spots try to get the milky spots they're more potent and put the liquid in a saline bottle. You will want a very concentrated batch though for this method to worknow. But hey it works for me and good! I can get high anywhere without anyone suspecting I'm inhaling anything other than saline up my nasal cavities
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Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:59:59 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To hold all the material I use a milk jug by the way. REYING To TYPE OUT BUT damn I'm getting too high to explain more. Either way keep enjoying that lovely crude opium we all enjoy brothers
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Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 03:22:12 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Currently just scraping flake opium up I'll post the results when I finish it
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Hamilton Mudgesare - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 05:53:14 EST ID:c9HlQxHx No.572326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572320
Wow dude, way to quadruple post.






Can I ask a general question? Are unwashed poppyseeds still a thing? Is SN still good?
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Hamilton Mudgesare - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 05:54:54 EST ID:c9HlQxHx No.572327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How is the latest SN batch?

Are people still willing to talk about it?
Just wondering if I should bother.

Last time I bought was like Oct. 2015.


Unsure if it's been regulated since then.
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Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 08:51:09 EST ID:m2YooSD1 No.572336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572327
SN's definitely still good. I just got 25lbs of 10/03/2017 a few days ago and all in all pretty good. Shaken some up right now, I'll tell you how this bag is even though the other wasn't as potent as it could be yet still quite good enough.

~7+/10
>Aciddrop, just cuz you get toasted on something doesn't mean it's highly potent.
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 21:56:43 EST ID:iQi541Jr No.572348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572336
True but even since those first 9 grams, I took 2.5 oz and didn't feel as high and then a full cup and felt close to the first dose. I've had to increase my dose a lot every time. Yolande is built so fast it's crazy. After one dose your tolerence is already rising. It's crazy.

Nb
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:08:18 EST ID:qvbrmZuD No.572409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572406
I'll get back to you in a few hours ok. Is that cool?

I've been wondering what the BA differences are for theBaine etc.

>for anyone wondering whathe to do with batches that make you sick

Order another bag either same company or not doesn't matter, mix the bags 1:1 or measure your dose 1:1 split. This should help reduce the spike in too much of something bad.

Honestly FTL E and SN are such a good fucking mix. Personally I think I'll like 1.5 SN:FTL E but I need to look into bulk FTL E pricing.

FTL E is easier same strength or slightly less strong than SN by 10-20%, but it's such a unique experience. I'll talk about it later.

It's like trying different weed strains. So cool man.

Gtg ttyl yell
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Simon Gabberwutch - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:43:49 EST ID:MV8rPz2m No.572413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So why can i not smoke evaporated pst? what's wrong with taking pst, evaporating the water from it and freebasing the powder left over? why do i have to do that huge tech for opium puddy?
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MDCB !Hs1AFHVTXw!!RpEUU2cz - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:55:16 EST ID:LzkgCTZX No.572416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572413
For you to consume morphine by "smoking" it you actually want to vaporise it.

When you make tea (seed/pod) you end up with lots of other inactives that are water soluble as well as plant matter small enough to get through your filter etc.
This is fone to consume orally or even plug but you need a far more pure product to effectively smoke it.

Using a lipid such as parafin or coconut oil first removes all of the fats and oils... extrapolate from there.
The different parts of the simple process to make smokable from tea is not really any more mentally straining than evaporating the liquid, it just involves more steps, each removing an unwanted portion and leaving you to enjoy the good stuff.

NB
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Matilda Blatherson - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:41:47 EST ID:s4dc5stR No.572421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572409

Please do, I'm curious about it too. If you find that the other alkaloids have less of an effect through plugging, let us know.

>>572416
Not the guy you're replying to, but does this oil step have to be done before the evaporation is started? What if I already have the putty, is it too late to seperate out the fats/oils?
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 23:35:24 EST ID:iQi541Jr No.572423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571991
It might be because my tolerence is so low, but these 10/3 sn seeds are making me itchier than I've ever gotten from opiates. It driving me crazy. Time for another 50 mg dph. Still thinking about snorting some ambien lol
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MDCB !Hs1AFHVTXw!!RpEUU2cz - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:21:40 EST ID:LzkgCTZX No.572426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572421
I apologisw that I can't post the TEK for you, I'm sure someone with a computer could.
It may be a bit of a "long way round" but I reccomend you dissolve your putty in warm water and then add a fat that is solid at room temperature. IE; coconut oil. Don't allow it to get as hot as you maybe would have done when there was more liquid, allow to reduce a little, stick it in the freezer until it forms a cold but not frozen layer of water and a hard layer of solid coconut oil containing plant matter and fats and oils but none of the good stuff. Filter again just to remove any small chunks of oil etc.
Plug a small amount of the liquid while you wait for the rest to evaporate into a nice potent product, or follow the rest of the tek and continue toward flake opium or Morphine.
There may be a simpler way but remember the more concerntrated it is, the more mechanical loss you will have.

Enjoy man.
NB
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:19:47 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>571991
Got the wretched red bags of death from SN.

To be fair they're super old like ordered 2 or 3 weeks ago. So far my 4oz tester seems to be okay. Bitter as always, maybe a bit more bitter than normal.

They're 10/6. My December 2018 bag of FTL was alright. Not quite as strong but definitely more smooth than SN, maybe theBaine idk. The FTL had a weird ass long come up and duration.

I'll get more reports on these 10/3. I've been doing 6-8oz FTL waiting for my huge as fuck SN,order to come in so I can mix them all together and get a consistent product to stabilize while I save the other parts of my life.

See u @ 8 Aciddrop on /b/tube. Anyone else is more than welcome.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:19:48 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572457
8 pm in what time zone? Ive got nothing going on tonight and it might be cool to hang out and chat with some cool people.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:52:49 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572481
Yo ima hop on right now.

I'll hop in IRC and /b/ tube now. I'll keep IRC logged in 24/7 from now on.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 23:11:59 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572495
yup im in the tubes
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 23:12:44 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572500
Such a series, much zeros

nb
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 02:23:52 EST ID:gTKeaRiV No.572517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572495
Sorry, I ended up snorting some ambien while already on seeds and k pins and fell asleep.LoL
I'll be on here tonight and tomorrow

>>572481
Ur always welcome to chat q my boy.
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LaDiDotty - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:11:45 EST ID:VMINuFQ5 No.572626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572457
Hi,

Haven't been able to visit, read, post in a bit. Been crazy here. I am glad to read you are doing a bit better. I enjoy your posts & appreciate all your knowledge.
My last seed order, which has been about a month ago, was from both SN & FTL because several orders prior from SN were not good. My 1st couple orders from FTL which I hadn't tried until then were good, better than my last SN orders. But since I keep hoping SN will get back on track I ordered from both places. My SN order had the same exp date as the 2 orders I got prior to this last 1, boo. So I've. Been mixing the 2 & it's OK, not terrible but not fantastic like SN had always been for me prior to this last spring. It's been a lil difficult for me to judge also because I've started ULDN which I've been most pleased with for the most part, still trying to figure out my perfect dose. It has allowed me to stretch things farther though!
I've not seen the red strip on bags from SN. Does it mean anything or is it just a new thing they're doing?
It's about time to order up again & I thought I'd see what the most recent feedback has been W/both places.
Anyhow any info would be most appreciated. I hope things continue to go well & I look forward to reading more about your posts on all things PST.

Take care & Happy New Year.
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:47:03 EST ID:X2m3x4BI No.572655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572495
Is your name not dr. Mario on irc? Lol also there is too much trap shit on b tube. It's so annoying. Like I don't care if your a trap but you don't have to act all hyper sexual and throw it in our faces all the time. We get it, your a chick with a dick. Good fucking job. Your so anti- establishment, I wish I was you! Please...nb
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breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:52:52 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572660
Ye I get that sometimes. Probably has to do with the drugs in the PST.
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Betsy Chiddleville - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:31:56 EST ID:KlMT5bFf No.572674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572664

Fuck. Any way to deal with it besides drinking loads of coffee to keep yourself awake? Even if I dose PST as early as possible to give it time to wind down if I get decently high I'll end up staying up for a good part of the night waiting to get as sober as I can be so I'm not gasping in my sleep. Might also be due to the fact that I take tricyclic antidepressants daily (which increase sedation to some extent) but afaik there's no negative interactions with respiratory depression / TCAs because I used to nod on heroin / get blackout drunk on alcohol while on them so I don't think they're the reason. What do you do if you need to sleep and still feel short of breath?
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:04:52 EST ID:N9JtNdDc No.572732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571991
dubs and i'll do PST
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:45:46 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572655
It's usually Dr_Mario but I forgot my password so sometimes I'll do Dr_Mari0

I try to keep it logged in but I get kicked occasionally. I'll hop on now, hope to hear from you

>sold my 10/3 bags for profit on Craigslist, got 3 10/9 red bags from SN HQ
>just about the same; looks like I was shipped super old stock for some reason
>fuck I'm out of my 6lbs of banana chips and am fiending for them why didn't I buy more from SN

During vacation/break I was drinking booze again and taking 0.5mg xanax + 2.4mg etizolam at night with a 2oz shot of ~60% ABV peach moonshine+ day drinking beers all day maybe 6-10 beers. This was for over 2 weeks constantly (xanax was freely given by parents), so I sort of got addicted again.

I've been on the daily PST use again as I dropped off the etizolam again, like max 1.2mg daily but for 5 days it was like 1.2mg 0mg 0mg 0.6mg 0mg and 0.9mg last night...so as is.

But the PST had been bad again lol. Never over 8oz but still bad. I mean my school work "begins" on Monday or Tuesday and that's when I get monitored again, and we both know 4oz is enough to keep daily users of 12oz or less pretty much out of WD.

My wife was pushing weed because she's biased and a dingy when it comes to drugs and was assuming weed would allow me to use less PST. While I know that works for you, for me it's a total trigger. It's the worst poly drug trigger for me. Nothing makes me crave benzos specifically, alcohol secondly, and a distant third opi. It's as if 7 years of getting baked before doing any other drug has conditioned my brain.

Maybe weed will help cope with the 4oz drop. Basically we agreed tapering for me is a joke unless I have actual wage paying work and piss tests to keep me honest. So we looked back on my handwritten logs to figure out what dosage range is the range where I fall off the wagon. It's around 2-3.5oz.

So we decided get enough seeds so that the mixture is consistent, once we're ready its all in 4oz daily and that's it, bags weighed daily for accountability, etizolam max 2.4mg a day as needed but weekly average of around 7mg or less. This is all while we are patiently waiting for me to get likely a benzo/z drug script and for counseling to somehow help.

Once I get a benzo script I either maintain on 4oz for as long as possible, perhaps even months, so that the transition to rapid PST taper or suboxone taper/maintenance isn't that bad.

Once I get a benzo script...

  1. I tell my psychologist I'm addicted to 100mg morphine XR pills "from india", that I usually eat 1 per day or half of one to stay well, 1.5 to get notably high and 2 to nod me off but haven't done that in ages, I'll beg her not to kick me out or to cut off my benzo script, I'll tell her I can get 1000 benzo pills shipped to my house tomorrow and that I can bring some in if she doesn't believe me. The point being I'm willing to stop them today and work with her every step of the way, but only if she won't axe my benzo prescription and will help me get a bupe script without telling the government I'm a quack or an addict and get my firearm rights taken away. If she refuses I'll just walk away even if the Psych stops scripting me; I'll have one full script which is enough to legalize pissing for benzos up to one year from the prescription.

2. I just keep the benzo script and act like life is a million times better, then when it's time for drug tests I just taper myself off with PST or DNM suboxones knowing I'll have to be entirely opi clean in less than 3 months or live life with a condom filled with piss strapped to a hand warmer and thermometee, compared to getting a sub script that's 5-8x too strong and me hoarding them under supervision of the wife since we both know from yall that basically 1-4mg of bupe is the only range where you actually enjoy it, and I'll never shoot them without microns and even then having a script turns me off from needles even more as they're then not special. That means something like 16mg per day = $20 wholesale $40 retail in my area, meaning $600-1200/month for possibly the rest of my life even if I'm only on 1mg or 2mg per day.

I haven't quite decided yet. The sub script would be more appealing if it covered other rec opi use on tests, but it doesnt. And getting a bupe script from a regular Psych is a pipe dream even if the shrink has 15 years of experience with substance abuse clients.

Maybe I'll just keep lying to get what i want. You start talking to someone and try to pretend they're your friend, but you have to remember they never will be. There's no reason to stretch GAD or so called moderate depression into scripting an opioid. Similarly they would never script my an OIC-curing medication because I would have to come out and say yeah I'm an addict.


>wtf is going on with Mario

Basically getting clean has taken a back seat to getting mental health fixed, finishing school with all As (never had that before), and reconciling issues in the marriage. Obviously substance abuse is related but they're a symptom to bigger problems. The bigger problems need to be addressed before substance abuse because I can quit easily but staying sober is so difficult. If I tell my shrink or whomever they'll decide the drugs are problem #1 and I'll stop seeing them or they won't help me with the other shit.
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Shitting Pitthood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:10:45 EST ID:QtdD3W3G No.572823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm looking to reduce my tea down into a paste in a sauce pan. Is boiling okay or should I just let it sit at the steaming stage? I'm getting a lot of conflicting advice on at which temp. it will destroy the alkaloids.
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breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:48:37 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've got a bit of water & seed slush, been sitting for 2 hours.
Can I do a re-wash or is it past?
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:00:31 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572823
light boil is fine. it will be hard to make putty in a pan though because scraping it out will be a pain in the ass. maybe once it starts getting thick pour it into pyrex.
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Martha Poddlebetch - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:23:07 EST ID:HcRCtA2u No.572826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572824
I'd pass if I was you imo. At that point the seeds have either soaked up the fun alkaloids, leeched out their shitty ones, or both.
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Martha Poddlebetch - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:26:02 EST ID:HcRCtA2u No.572827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572826
also
>haven't used pst in a few weeks
>slept 3 hours day before yesterday, 3 hours yesterday, and drank a huge wash this morning

holy fuck it's early evening now and I'm doing everything I possibly can to not fall asleep standing up. I've spent all day pounding back redbulls and coffee and it's not having a single effect haha. morphine is fucking godly. nb
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breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:29:47 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572827
Niceee
Ive tried doing the same, but with caffeine powder, and it just doesn't touch the sedation at all!
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:40:04 EST ID:efRl7seM No.572830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572824
It's fine. If you're worried, bring it to a boil for 10 minutes and then drink it.

Remember that the colder your PST, the less shitty it tastes.
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breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 23:30:30 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572830
Poured it all out into the toilet :( gg no re
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 23:44:15 EST ID:hKxher8H No.572835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571991
When I was addicted to subs and switched to seeds, I never got any itching at all. Now that I'm non-dependant I get super bad itching whenever I chip with seeds.is there anyway to help it? Dph didn't seem to help much. It was hard to get to sleep I was so itchy. Never been that ichy before in my life.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:00:28 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572835
i usually take dph before i dose and then after i come up i take loratadine. Loratadine has the advantage of potentiating due to competitive metabolism via cyp 3a4 and 2d6 as well as being extremely highly protein bound (about 97%) which means it will prevent the opis from becoming protein bound themselves which causes an increase in the amount of the opis that remain in circulation in your blood and able to reach a receptor. if you do a dose thats extra itchy it might be worthwhile to take a large amount of valerian root because valerian is a strong inducer of cyp 2d6 which is responsible for metabolizing codeine to morphine and ime batches of seeds that are high in codeine are the ones that make me the most itchy. I always take valerian with my tea though its a really good potentiator, one of my favorites for sure.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:08:00 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572836
also meant to post this link to a study on common otc herbal supplements that induce or inhibit important metabolic pathways. I post it every now and then but its good info for people wanting to know what to take to potentiate.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1742-7843.2007.00011.x/full
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 01:26:24 EST ID:KNSBgxcV No.572839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572833
you can normally let those kinds of things sit for like 5 hours. past 1 hour, id boil i after extracting. i also have like 3 bottles of PST first washed in my freezer that i'll do second washes when i have the time.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 03:26:36 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572839
oh man. i personally would noooot rewash after an hour i have a couple times in the past when i was desperate but its bad. They probably havent actually gone bad after just an hour or two but they smell and taste soo bad after sitting for even a short time. I just cant handle the smell and taste after theyve been washed and let sit for awhile, they get so rancid its gnarly and i cant deal with it. you might be onto something with freezing them though. Freezing them after the first or second wash and then rewashing with warm soda or whatever you like to use might make it easier to get the last bits of opis without also getting so much of the fats and oils. I may try freezing some seeds before i wash them at all and then freezing a different batch after the first wash to see if it makes any difference in flavor next time i get some.
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:52:42 EST ID:RNsyV50Z No.572895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572841
Rewashes after an hour then rigorouss boil for like 10-15 minutes to kill off all those microgarasms. This works ssewell because they don't have the pbiological mass to cause issue and it kills everything. like i said, you can do a rewash afterl ike 5hours as long as you boil it for 10 straight minutes before drinking.

protip;: pasteuraize then refidgetate your PST for long term storage
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Shit Wivingdock - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 06:38:56 EST ID:Z/zcrnFU No.572912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i've left all of my seeds in the bag they come in directly on top of a very hot radiator for close to 24 hours, have I fucked them? )':
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:36:18 EST ID:+RdbqMaj No.572913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572912
As long as it didn't melt you should be good. Morphine is pretty stable and doesn't degrade from heat much really.
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:47:13 EST ID:+RdbqMaj No.572924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My seeds have been out for delivery since fucking 8 am. It is now 1:45 pm and I'm starting to get pissed they aren't here yet...like wtf USPS??
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Martin Blythecocke - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:35:04 EST ID:jI6uJ6Dv No.572945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>571991
So i left out a sealed bottle of poppy seeds and water for 18 hours in a dark room. Is it still okay to drink?
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:46:17 EST ID:eprvQ+t/ No.572946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572945
Boil it on full boil for at least 15 minutes, cool it, and you'll be fine.

Remember: you taste less PST if it's cold.
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Martin Blythecocke - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:53:22 EST ID:jI6uJ6Dv No.572947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572946
thanks man
What exactly makes it bad to drink? Doesn't it like ferment or some shit? It smells different but not bad.
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 22:01:16 EST ID:eprvQ+t/ No.572948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572947
Bacteria multiple in the water and some stuff like protists and yeast does some anaerobic fermentation to make methane and carbon dioxide from the dead plant matter. It's like if you filled a water bottle and tossed two tablespoons of dirt in the bottle and walked away. Same shit.

The morphine is still there though.
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Polly Wedgemadging - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:20:43 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.572959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572948
So I feel like no matter how old it gets then, you could just basify then extract and viola
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:29:21 EST ID:N9JtNdDc No.572961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572959
Yes. Yes you can. I've done this with a bottle I forgot from last February. Just boil it down and you have some powdered morphine if you do it right.

Don't drink it past 30 hours though. The bacteria and fermentation's literal shit will cause poisoning.


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