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PST/PPT General Thread 4.0 by Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:54:55 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.571991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wow 1503+ posts of getting high af. Shout out to the anon who made version 1.0 of this thread.

You know what to do. This thread is ALL things poppy. PST, PPT, flake opium, mystery goo (what should I do?), memes nobody else understands, irrelevant political images, softcore fat black women nobody wants to see in private let alone be seen by others viewing said women at work/school (really man? really?), weeaboo shit (sigh...ohhhhhkay), topics related to the two or three posters actually qualified or smart enough to converse about flake opium production (but really please do it's so intriguing, and if you're not one of the two of three keep trying anyways and get back to us!), and of course legal/policy discussion. (Seriously, I'm ready to discuss poppy seed and pod regulation; I have my sources and constructive arguments mentally organized, finally, and would love to hear counterarguments from other academics/intelligent laymen).

If you post a pst question somewhere else about any of these things, chances are it's in the wrong place Unless you're a speedballing StimLion, then yeah your beautiful weeb contributions to this board (never stop doing you, live and let live, I guess) probably does belong in the BWN or elsewhere, not here (simply because you're not a PxT guy).

If it's ANYTHING poppy, ask it in here.

Enjoy your morphine with the tiniest dash of codeine and other goodies that makes every bag like smoking a new strain of mystery hybrid weed. It's been five and a half long ass grueling days [%]before this not-so-anon anon expected a last minute piss test related to getting scripted benzs and tl;dr my southern doc delayed the process by reccomending xanax or equivalent in writing to my new northern doctor(s) without actually scripting me anything, so I got nothing tangible in return for the horrible wait and I now feel like garbage and had no chance to dose up all day until after my flight landed,
so I surely will in just a bit.

If anyone is concerned, mildly interested, or has side bets as to whether I'll ever get clean/get better/get divorced/begin shooting smack/eventually die of an OD, I'm actually getting monitored medical help now (GP, MD Psychiatrist, possibly MD addiction/maintenance specialist) and my life has 180'd for the better even while being encouraged to stay on this stuff, for now. My wife's happy, I'm happy, so life is good. But I have to prove the changes I seek through future effort and action.

Anyways, less about me, MORE about you! Lurk forever but afraid to come out and get involved? Be a Trip in our own containment thread! We're one big happy pesticide pouring, goat-shit guzzling family ! We need more people to provide their life stories for entertainment, something the marginalized or isolated people can relate to or resonate with, and to get me the fuck out of the spotlighting in our corner of the universe. If you're committed to being an anon for life, please at least stop by and post hello when you read this thread! If you're high and usually post in the BWN, atleast post here first and then in the BWN so that the BWN remains on top while we accumulate post counts that reflect the level of seed/pod/puddy/straw consumption that's actually consumed by our micro community.

Got a bunk bag? Sipping on some fire brew? Let us know, in acronyms, where and when (expiration dates) your source is from! Please do it here and not on the great winding River market. That will be the death of us. If you must, rate 5 stars and don't use any words.

Please feel free to rate your seed strength and describe the cleanliness of the high in this thread (PLEASE do!), but

>PLEASE PLEASE succinctly premise it with a generalized explanation of your current and past tolerance to all opioids so we can take your review for what it's worth. Any review is worth reading, but we need to know if you're a newbie or a veteran mud water muncher/abuser of other opioids.

Let the good times roll!!

>8oz of SN 9/11, 3.6mg etizolam throughout the day (family goodbyes, fuck), earlier on two Corona Extra with key limes, one overpriced airport double well, a whole key lime pie to myself in the airport, and one very interesting blood test report that you guys will want to hear more about.

PST doesn't raise your iron or calcium levels significantly* if you only do two washed for 5mins each or less**.

Love you all. I will be on suboxone, kratom, or PST maintenance facilitated by a dual chamber timed/key safe by the time this thread dies. PST, you were the best of times. You were the worst of times. Variety is the spice of life.

P.S. ask your doctor for a OIC medication if you're already scripted opioids and also use PST that you can get by with without them noticing. You can thank me later.

Pic indirectly related: two drugs (heroin aka BTH and U-47700) whose "new" (tried/dependent for first time in last 30-60 days) user populations, when combined, would probably equal nearly half our poppy user population if it wasn't for PST/PPT products.

Stay safe out there and find yourself some free/cheap Narcan! PST is just as dangerous as oral morphine. Let us know if your area doesn't have it and we will give you resources to acquire some. It may just save your life.


Here's to hard fact indisputable evidence that 8oz of daily quality seed washed are objectively higher than even 6 beers a day, let alone hardcore alcoholism (way lower iron, HUGE drop in AST/ALT, on and on, just from not drinking booze instead). Tell the alcoholics in denial that numbers don't lie! I'm all for individual liberty to drink, but people need the facts
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:58:34 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.571996 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Stupid broken spoilers. I wrote them right im 99% sure since I took so much time. I've requested Quet'z help and this should be in sexy shape soon enough sometime this week.

Sorry guys, was trying to be respectful and make the short and long versions for readers of all ages, interest levels, and attention spans.

My second post got deleted, but...

basically I'm a guy who was just labeled positive for genetic hemochromatosis (unclear if I'm heterogenous or homogenous, hetero roughly 1 in 10-20 for Northern European descent, 1 in 200-500 have both alleles and are basically screwed, and with my high ferritin I'more likely to have both alleles than I want to acknowledge) with significant former liver damage from international Hep A infection and 2-3 years of varying alcoholism years ago, and I got my blood tested in early Summer 2015.

The only substantial variable that changed since that 2015 test and the Jan 2017 test was cutting out daily booze, NO booze and kava together period (though this was rare after 2012-2013 anyways), 97%+ kava use reduction, no smoking weed (only vaping it, and I'd say 80-95% less weight than before, now like 1g of 25% per month lol max), and when I would drink booze on rare occasion (wedding, bachelor party, this recent vacation, maybe two days total at home where I downed 6oz of vodka to see if I'd get a rush, and I just felt sick after) I'd vape a little weed and pound waters with milk thistle before, during, and after the drinking, with weed with it almost always (supposedly helps protect brain from neurotoxicity),

and meanwhile I took on a heavy PST and moderate etizolam habit with a tiny dabble in cLam (10-15mg total), ethylphenidate (like half an 8 ball max, shit was cut or weak, with either 50mg plugged or 100mg oral feeling like 20-30mg oral ritalin max, with oral "ethylritalin" just plain sucking tbh.), 9x2.5mg snorted triazolam, and roughly 4-8 30-40mg Vyvanse every month for the past maybe 3 months max.

my iron levels went from super worried go-to-hospital-bleed-him-out-today-he-needs-a-new-liver by 30-50yo to NORMAL levels by Jan 2017, calcium is back down to normal, AST/ALT are NORMAL, and so many other tests are all great.

All I'm missing is a little low on calcium because i was avoiding it on purpose due to iron absorption fears, and low vitamin D because there's no sun up here, no drinking milk with extra vitamin D, no multi vitamin due to fear of issues on previous tests, and low calcium which of course helps cause low Vitamin D absorption.

>feel free to ask me anything about worries related to organ/liver damage from poppy products, especially if you can't afford to get blood tests of your own. I'm only one case but I want to help others best I can.

>Let me be the community guinea pig. If anyone is curious abut a specific enzyme or levels test in the blood, let me know and I'll look for it or request it with my next testing in a few months.

To be clear, my doctoral program is NOT in medicine, pharmacology, or the natural sciences, so IANA(M) and IANAD(O). I'm not formally educated in science, just political science and city management basically.

on side notes:
triglycerides, LDL, all of it dropped like a rock from eating healthy portions of SN's healthy non-poppy products...

specifically the cheap dried bananas I'm sure other companies have the same shit but I'd rather get 10lbs of poppy seeds, tons of banana chips thatnare healthy/God-tier prepper currency/bartering food. hear me out

(I can double check, I think it's like $24*2 for two 5lb bags of fire seeds so 48, bananas are all nearly same price 3lb and up so you get 2x3lb bananas @$2/lb so thats 47.98+$12= $59.98 just shy of $60, so you get their other cheapest 1lb item the sugared kiwis for $2.50)

(bananas are $2.50 for one pound but might as well get what i suggested as price drops to $2/lb or 1.99/lb when you get 3lback bags, and the tiny bag of sugared kiwi is something besides more bananas, makes you look less like a morphine junkie, more diversified diet, and can be a God post-PST snack as they're s sweet.

the $2 or $2.50 puts you over that ~$59.98 or whatever into ~$61.98 or ~$62.48, then apply RT10SC 10% off, and BAM your order is now $6.XXL cheaper.

>So instead of paying $60 for two bags from the river two day ship , you get the same two 5lb poppy bags, 6lbs of DANK high fiber high fattening low sugar dried bananas that helps loads with constipation if you chew them well, and 1lb of sweet sugared kiwis to suck on and eat after nasty PST mud water you're a bitch, all for just ~$54-56.50 WITH the discount, and it all arrives 4-5 days MAX from the day you order it versus 2 days with river boat speed pass.

>Similarly, you can do 3 poppy seed 5lbag bags (15lb) for ~$71.97-10% so basically $64.XX instead of paying NINETY FUCKING DOLLARS for the same exact shit off the river. tl;dr you can get crates too but the prices are so similar per pound that IMO getting 25lb over 15lb to save like straight up $3 isn't worth getting stuck with 25lb of mediocre instead of 15lbs of mediocre, as well as increased "why does he need that many? obviously a junkie." we want to stop that imagine as a community when we can you know?

They even offer 25lb for $114.99-10% so like ~$104.49 for 25lbs instead of $150 through the river. only downside is river is 2 days with speedboat pass while SN HQ is 4-5days as in place order on Sunday afternoon it arrived on Friday both times.

I ordered FTL E 4lbs to hold me over until the upcoming weekend SN order to come in. I will review and compare them to SN. sure it's $7/lb river prices instead of SN $6/lb prices (or they're $4.XXL prices-10% on their direct site), but the literal total was a few dollars below the $29.99 when I don't need a whole 5lbs for Wednesday to Friday anyways, and I get to try something new. did I mention the whole only having to stretch my 2-4oz left for just two days?

Don't forget to use RT10SC for 10% off (can total $60 for free shipping and then use code to drop down to $54 or whatever and still get free shipping; outside of NY only I believe there's no sales tax applied to sale itself just your annual taxes you "report"). sometimes they offer 20% off during certain times like thanksgiving, maybe mothers day.

Pt. 1/2
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:59:05 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.571997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pt. 2/2

>If you get a bunk peppery smell bunk bag from SN, there's a HUGE problem. I've never had peppery smell from them ever and I've never had any peppery seeds be above a 2.5/10 ever, ALWAYS bunk usually 0/10.

if peppeey smell/taste a few seeds, either send back immediately or ONLY use like 2-4oz MAX, DON'T drink right away, wash the fuck out of it, i mean three good washes atleast 5min on the first one 3-5min on the second and 90 secs to 5mins on the third, and with all three cups lined up, do whatever you gotta do to finish them all in 10 mins MAX from beginning to end, 15mins max max of you have a boi pussy. use a chaser if you must, but only tiny sips to clear palate so you don't get full of liquid. I suggest big 1/3-1/5 of entire glass entire mouthful gulps every 10-30 seconds, plug nose if necessary if you're a bitch.

if you feel absolutely nothing at all, seal it up and call them. MAKE SURE you are sober and coherent. Explain you're not satisfied after many months of good service and that the taste isn't there (you BETTER do some fucking RESEARCH into the cuisine so you can explain what they're used for, some ethnic festival or for your church's *insert nationality*-themed bake sale, memorize a few finished foods before you call that are made in that country and require ounces and ounces of the seeds. Also to reach the $60 on the dot you can just get 2x5lb poppy bags, 2x3lb bags of cheap banana chips, and 1lb of the cheapest kiwi slices sugared.

I'm not a shill nor am I paid by them. I tell I like it is. I have 4lbs of FTL (E) coming in Wed. off the riverboat and 15lbs of SN coming in by truck/plane from SN HQ (only paid ~$64 versus $30 from amazon, thinking about selling them on Craigslist etc for Amazon prime one day shipping price equivalent, so $30+4 (I'll make it $35, maybe two for $65 three for $100 idk, or $30 flat each if I know they're below 4.5/10), and $3-20 for delivery depending on distance or no fee for pick up just down my street (I'll use Uber pricing minus uber's cut as a good price gauge), maybe save the particularly fire batches (7/10+) and do 2-2.5lb rebaggings for $20, tell people they're from the turtle instead, and make a small business out of it.

I'll only say the following once:
I'm genuinely sorry if I come across as a pretentiousness fuck. I'm just trying to help. If things hadn't gone the way they did as certain point in my life I might have dropped out two degrees ago and used the refund checks to shoot up morphine IR on the reg, dillies for a treat, opana for the weekend deviation from the norm, swallowed coca cola budget oxy XRs and maybe even plugging garbage street #4 after afew crude methods of "washing it" when low on cash, and resort to ultimately growing/buying pods/seeds/straw. All this while consuming pressed cheap bars on the go and use homemade PG solutions of Etizolam/Alprazolam/maybe pyrazolam (if not powder then pellets), few strips of cLam to move it to next level occasionally, and probably Diclazepam for some false sense of security as a detox shield tool, all the while using US passport to travel the world and disappear with capital I amassed simply because machines calculate how much money is a safe bet for a young married white guy.

not trying to romanticize bottom barrel life destroying addiction, but I'm tired of the sense of "Mario has not idea what it's like, he's obviously a special snowflake clueless privileged fuck face." I know it's just me projecting my own fear of an inability to assimilate here, but man I had the single mom three jobs no dad empty fridge and an empty house (empty of adult supervision) most of my life.
Ernest Challymadge - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:40:59 EST ID:srdCL5Ij No.571998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well shit I finally lost my shit.

A year of pst on and off and I'm addicted. I dose every day now.
So how hard is it to get into bupre clinic?
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:29:06 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.571999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Eh. If it were me, I'd've made the kept OP really pertinent, then put personal stuff into an addendum post. Image boards srs business :)
Good info though.

Question. Can I make a semi-longterm sanitary solution by doing:
wash seeds -> filter seeds -> add some etoh (up to 5% idk) just enough to kill bacteria.
Does that sound like it could be sipped on for a few days without taking it all at once?
pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:16:06 EST ID:daXiRiJr No.572002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Super easy as long as you have money
pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:23:17 EST ID:HYaLpJTh No.572004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dr.M I feel ya I have hep C .if I sip anyone alcohol its like my liver wont even process it and I dont get that little feel good from alcohol just liver pain and thoroughly sick throughout my body
Dr. Crane - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:42:42 EST ID:iHTGbEoO No.572009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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meant to do a report on here last week but totally forgot sorry guys. here goes.

>SN 3LB river 9/1 X000LFGXP
heard some people complaining about this batch but it was fire as fuck for me. I see a lot of people complain about the thebaine in SN but I've personally never had any nausea and have been able to get heavy nods I can't fight off. this batch was no different.
>FTL (E) 4LB river December 2018 X000RKPD64
SN was out of stock so I tried something else for the first time. bag smelled exactly the same as SN so I figured all was well. when it was ready I noticed a little bit of white shit like particles floating around in it. looks like how pst looks after it sits out and bacteria grows in it. said fuck it and drank it anyway. the taste was also slightly off like old pst. I felt good and could tell it was legit so decided to drink more and that's when it happened. full blown abdominal pain. no nausea at all just felt like I had a boulder in my guts. tried to eat a little snack which made it 100 times worse. felt like really bad indigestion. tried it again the next day being more careful to see if it was just a fluke and symptoms returned. can't even get a nod of this shit because of the pain in causes.

not sure if that is what thebaine feels like but from what I've heard here it's more nausea related. has anyone else experienced something like this? now I have about 3lbs of this shit that seems to be useless. Guess I should've just gone with SN but a size up.

pic related is the nasty white shit floating around in the FTL batch. I tried to fish some off the top with a spoon the next time I tried it and I didn't feel as bad as the first time but it was still extremly unpleasant.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:34:25 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
hello, nice to meet you.

Yeah sorry the spoilers fucked up, but I almost like the wayit is now. All but the most pertinent shit is visually available.

I promise it has nothing to do with me anow everything to do with people pills (not to pick you out of the crowd buddy). He needs to know from somebody with similar problems to him that this shit won't kill his liver.

Even if I got ridiculed for the structure of my OP, just reaching him was worth it to me.

Sorry though, I'll hit the man up on IRC AND try to get it fixed. Obviously I wasn't sober but all the info is decent IMO.

>drinking 3rd wash I fell asleep holding in my hand lol!
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:40:41 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
is visually *blocked

2017 resolution to not use a phone on this site.
Cornelius Wellyway - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:42:44 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah I had a 3lb 9/1 SN riv bag. I took less than my usual dose and at one point woke up passed out on the inside of a coffee table with glass everywhere and wounds all over.

I just ordered more today lol.
Dr. Crane - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:05:55 EST ID:iHTGbEoO No.572021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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lol. I took about half my usual dose to test the waters and was nodding way sooner than usual. couple of nights had me waking up gasping for air so if anyone has any 9/1 SN stay safe and take it slow.

really bummed out about my FTL batch. this was the first bunk batch I've ever received from anywhere. I mean it's not bunk but as I explained in my last post it just makes me very ill. I wonder if it has to do with everyone's bodies being different or if this is a thebaine thing.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:24:25 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
9/1 was stronger than average, stronger than most bags recently, however not exactly earth shattering.

I agree with another anon from before that the 9/1 bags seem to be inconsistent even within the same bag. Could be placebo, but I thought the same thing before he even posted it. One brew is solid 4-5/10 next time same weight hits like 6.5-7.5. 9/11 was not the same way.

9/1 was better than 9/11.

my first ever FTL E comes in Wednesday. Then all of the SN (15lbs) comes in this weekend.

Over half will be locked away not for me to use but for her/actual pain emergencies. As my tolerance is down quite a bit (8oz had me soaring and stopped the sobbing about leaving Florida), I'll be able to compare different lot numbers as I'll be taking the same exact dose at the same time interval between uses anyways.
Ernest Bupperworth - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:32:32 EST ID:+rJY0K/n No.572025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:41:39 EST ID:+rJY0K/n No.572027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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just be careful with your first FTL(E) batch. mine didn't smell peppery and had nothing to be alarmed about but it fucking made me feel like I had an ulcer. made a 100% recovery today just don't have anything to nod off and have this bag sitting here starring me down. contemplating getting another SN bag.

It could very well just be me but I'm just giving you a heads up may want to go slow with it at first, especially if its a DEC. 2018 exp w/ lot code X000RKPD64. It's not insanely strong or anything but then again I didn't really get to the point where I would drink as much as I do from other batches. Just really really bad pressure in the stomach. If anything try to take it on an empty stomach and if you do feel what I'm talking about for the love of god DONT eat anything at least until it calms down even if you get to that point where you get your fix and appetite comes back.

sorry think this post was me on accident. was trying to setup a trip cause I've been lurking here for years. not sure how to delete the post.
break-a-bond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:04:26 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>What is more, after the fraction including heroin was collected from the eluent of preparative HPLC, it was concentrated and dried by evaporator. Then a good deal of monoacetylmorphine was found because heroin was likely to hydrolyze when it was in water especially heated.
So if you prefer monoacetylmorphine, then all it takes is adding water and heating up apparantly?
break-a-bond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:06:23 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh this isn't the BWN. Disregard.
Nathaniel Puzzlestone - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:37:16 EST ID:neyiguwY No.572042 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Wash it with isopropyl then pour it onto a tray to dry. You get a nice little ball of potty putty that you can just eat orally and it supposedly lasts for months. Takes like 10-20 hours to dry 500ml of iso out.

Also, is the 9/1 SN really that good? I've got an unopened 2# bag I haven't gotten around to yet. Kind of disappointed with the WGN I got (seems to induce pretty heavy nausea even at lowish doses) so I'm excited to try out the SN in a few days.
pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:42:38 EST ID:WjaZSBeT No.572043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why would anyone buy WGN the best thing ive heard about it is that its ok at best
pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:44:33 EST ID:WjaZSBeT No.572044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do you just wash the seeds in the isopropyl and then strain and then pour that mixture out on a tray and let dry?
pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:57:41 EST ID:ul8wrln2 No.572048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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If so how much iso and how much poppy seeds.
Sorry for the multiple posts.
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:58:45 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That'll do it. You could do a quick second wash, idk if it helps. (requesting solubility info).
Or you could get fancy like pic related if you'd like.
what !!QJGTUbuf - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:00:40 EST ID:3qNK86pI No.572051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pills, you keep posting berserk stuff and i gotta say, i love it.

Caroline Mozzletitch - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 01:19:28 EST ID:rsGgQ1Xs No.572060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Awesome!! New PST thread for my big SN update.

So I got my 8 pounds of SN from head quarters today.

3 x 1lb. bag Identical expiration dates and lot #'s 10/3/2017 Lot:T4R2A437
5 pound bag 9/29/2017 Lot:T10R13656

I'm very satisfied. they aren't those 9/10 legendary batches from the past. but these are at least 7/10. maybe even better but my tolerance may be lying to me.

No red packaging or red seeds. no pepper smell. The normal nutty smell and bitterness is a little bit lesser than some batches I have gotten in the past, but like I said, this is what SN nuts are like, those crazy batches can't be the standard we use to compare. those are the exception.

I can't tell a hug difference between the seeds from the 1 pound bags and the 5 pounds bag. However I'm on my first glass of the smaller bag, cracked the 5 pounder first but opened a little bag to compare. If i notice any big difference from the bags as i go through them I will let yall know.

So SN from headquartes is a go right now /opi/! Unwashed and very active. I'm itching like a motherfucker. gonna have a cigarette under my awning in the backyard and enjoy this crazy storm.

Order while they're hot /opi/!! Literally!!!
Caroline Mozzletitch - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 01:31:22 EST ID:rsGgQ1Xs No.572062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh I forgot.

In comparison to the FTL(E) and WGN seeds I have received this past week, the SN i received today is a good order of magnitude stronger than the WGN. It is also a bit stronger than the FTL(E), not as vast as a difference between SN and WGN, but definitely stronger. Also SN seems like a faster onset than FTL(E), so you tell me what that means /opi/.

So ya, once again, SN from HQ is in the lead of the tea race right now.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:18:03 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Need to use enough to saturate and be able to agitate the seeds. So a similar amount as you would use water to make tea. High percentage drinking ethanol or high percentage isopropyl are the easiest/safest to use but methanol works a tiny bit better, however since methanol is pretty never required to be food grade because no one should ever be consuming it anyways it isnt required to meet the same purity or safety standards as drinking ethanol or isopropyl since its used as an antiseptic.

I also just found a new concept flipping through an old book on morphinan chemistry that im probably going to try soon. A few different experiments actually though i wont have the resources for any of them till next monthish. Im thinking next time i have some form of pst/ppt im going to try to make diazomorphine. One of the others is a little more complicated and requires morphine HCL so ill be skipping that. However im thinking the same reaction im looking at can be modified for buprenorphine hcl which i do have and might try once i acquire the reactants. I have no idea if it will end up producing something active using buprenorphine but im guessing it should as i dont see any reason it would behave differently than running it on morphine or codeine. I'll let you guys know if either experiment works out after i try them. Im aiming to end up with diazomorphine which i have no idea is active or not and a halogenated buprenorphine analog which i also dont know will be active, i was intrigued by the simplicity of both reactions and the availability and price of the reactants so itll probs happen next month. I may also try to form the 2-nitro analogs of the constituents of tea, 2-nitromorphine, 2-nitrocodeine and the like but we'll see as im unsure if i can find the reactant for cheap, though i suspect i can.
Caroline Mozzletitch - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:35:10 EST ID:rsGgQ1Xs No.572100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thank the /opi/ Gods everyday for /opi/'s in-house chemists.

God speed and good luck Q!!!
Nicholas Suttingbud - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:02:03 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just got a 3lb 9/23 riv-SN bag and took ~2/3lb. I'll report back eventually, maybe even today.

They have a new bag design w/ a red stripe at the top but the seeds taste/smell/look like always before.
Cornelius Pobberbanks - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:37:00 EST ID:YCAG1Olj No.572105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I get that the BTH means black tar, but what about the u44? What does that mean?
Nicholas Suttingbud - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:44:28 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cornelius Pobberbanks - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:10:04 EST ID:YCAG1Olj No.572108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lolwut u44 means u47??? wtf?
I've heard u-4, u47, u4-ee-uhh (like 'euphoria') but never u44
Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:41:06 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572112 Ignore Report Quick Reply

i just got a 10/3 that isnt bitter at all and it smells like peanutbutter really

i hope this isnt inactive god damn that would suck
pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:59:57 EST ID:0lYYY5oM No.572113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well you are the same one to post on circlejerk.
Why dont you report back after you tried them.
Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:03:05 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572114 Ignore Report Quick Reply

i didnt post that, i just happen to have the same batch that smells like peanuts and tastes about 1/10th as bitter as usual
pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:22:33 EST ID:b18OmpPK No.572118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Your post and that post are almost identical,regardless not doing them and just saying what you said helps nobody.

What size bag and what lot #?

I received a 5# bag lot #T7R557.. Date 10/3
And they were extremely bitter.

I will post my full review in a few hours.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:24:42 EST ID:6J7Q2rH9 No.572120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
has anyone had success with the new SN with the red line? I'm hesitant to order some but I also want to get some seeds for Friday so I'll have to order later tonight if I decide I'm going to do that.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:28:00 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The no aluminum is if you first based the alcohol with calcium hydroxide, calcium oxide, potassium hydroxide, or sodium hydroxide or pretty much anything else with K, Na, or Ca.
Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:28:41 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572122 Ignore Report Quick Reply

actually both he and i did try them but it's only been about an hour and i'm just complaining in advance

i have that exactly batch and serial. how long do you shake for? these are the least bitter seeds i've ever had
pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:36:56 EST ID:0lYYY5oM No.572123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have not personally though I have seen people say they were good.
They all freaked out because of the new bag but its the same product in a new bag. However even after those were released ive made purchases from HQ and the river and am still getting the old bag.
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:55:32 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My tapering with #3 is only letting me sleep for about 3 hours before I wake up in pain.
Is it better to use pst in that case?
Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 15:30:28 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572131 Ignore Report Quick Reply

it's been about 2 hrs, they're not inactive but they're definitely like half as weak or worse. i don't think the batch number or date matters much, mine has exactly what yours has on the back and it's definitely weak, not bitter, and you would notice the smell. idk what the concensus is on date and lot number actually meaning anything since i've never bothered checking until now, but given this i suspect they don't mean much
Nicholas Suttingbud - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:15:43 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> Just got a 3lb 9/23 riv-SN bag and took ~2/3lb. I'll report back eventually, maybe even today.

Reporting back; 3 hours later. This shit is good. Definitely not the best I've had but 7/10. I'm getting those good classical waves of sedation. It's like 75°F here, I went outside for a while with a T-shirt on and the wind blowing against my skin felt cosmic af.

Shiiiit since starting this post these waves have gotten stronger; I'm going to take a bunch of ephedrine b/c I feel like I could pass out any sec.

Yes, pst is active for a long time and will help you sleep.
pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:50:41 EST ID:6vuBG+xO No.572138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yea dude im pissed. It took away my withdrawals but no discernable high ...

What was your dose btw?
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:39:30 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Id say it is. It should enable you to take a smaller dose that still keeps w/ds at bay for a solid 8 hours or more with out really reaching for that euphoria.
Nell Cluffingshaw - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:33:39 EST ID:w9sTQZeg No.572190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Daily user here, do 1kg washes daily for years of local decent seeds, just discovered SN and holy fuck was I missing out. Been in acute withdrawals for a few days cuz I can't bring myself to buy more local seeds when my SN order is out for delivery.

I gave up pst for 16 days last month, thats how long 150mg lasted me, and I gotta say fuck that stuff, made me feel braindead, no good feels and infinite nods. Kept waking up on the floor or in my chair covered with drool. Got some really bad dermatitis from drooling on my face so much lol. I was probably overdosing, as I was just eyeing out the powder and snorting it.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:46:25 EST ID:hbbaz23m No.572194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
150 mg of what? You didn't say what you were taking...
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:10:34 EST ID:7W+b41pu No.572213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
broke down and ordered another SN from the river. the 3lb wouldn't be in Stock for about a week so I upgraded to a 5lb. mind of nervous hearing things about the new bags but also anxious cause I heard 5lb bags are where it's at. should be here tomorrow. I will do a report if so and keep you guys posted. nb
David Worthingbanks - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:21:45 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572215 Ignore Report Quick Reply

idk i dont measure, only eyeball. maybe like 150-200 grams but i was only dosing 50 before. i keep it low


you really shouldnt have, the 10/3 is so shitty. the last batch i had was not very good, and this is about 1/3rd the strength of that
Henry Blabberwater - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:51:05 EST ID:w9sTQZeg No.572264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Sorry, meant to say fent.. Anyway, bag came in, I eyed out a half lb (SN 6/27) and nodded for like 8 hours, 19 hours later my pupils are still pinned and I'm hella itchy. Loving this, can't believe 5 lbs is gna last me 9+ days, I feel like I can even stop daily dosing... Emphasis on the can (is that how italics work? Don't make fun of me..)
Henry Blabberwater - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:53:06 EST ID:w9sTQZeg No.572265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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5lb bag to be pacific, forgot bag size might make a difference.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:47:09 EST ID:KYOPpK71 No.572296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Posted in the BWN about 40 minutes ago after drinking 2.5 oz of 10/3 SN. Im feeling pretty fucking good. Drank a few gulps more after doing a second wash and adding it to the original half left. I would say these are pretty good, I drank it on a full stomach and I'm high as fuck yet again. Maybe not quite as good as the 9/1 bags but still good. I'd give em a solid 7 out of 10 on the potency scale.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:49:11 EST ID:KYOPpK71 No.572297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Really?? I think they are good lol. Guess that's the benefit of only using once a month.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:35:00 EST ID:+rJY0K/n No.572301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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did yours have a red seal? cause it seems some of the same dates have been getting different results for a while now. mine still didn't have this new red seal everyone is talking about and this shit is kicking my ass. I made only half of my regular dose and still have 2 more glasses to drink of this first wash. I will be nodding tonight no doubt.

Mine is 10/3 aswell with lot number X000LFLGXF. shipped from TN.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:07:21 EST ID:KYOPpK71 No.572312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Our bag did have a red seal, # T5R157

Upc thing on sticker- X000LFLGXP
Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:43:15 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The way I take it is I take say 3 maybe 4 pounds mic a bottle or two of water in and strain it all then I put it in a fleet enema bottle and give myself an enema usually around 10OZ I believe they are. It's cheaper than dope and plugging is my usual ROA for dope and it gets me plenty high. Why do so many PST/PPT people insist in making small doses like with a 2 liter bottle?It's so much more efficient to use an alcohol or simple water based solution on a large amount of pods or seeds and try to get the largest concentration possible in one batch with the smallest amount of water.
Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:48:27 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I find liquid also works nasal when I do the small water, large material and concentrated method really well to thepoint where I just inhale from a saline nasal spray bottle and stay high all day. For me it beats oral, it's on point with heroin for me I mean morphine always has been my DOC I used to buy the 60s on the black market but what's the point when seeds are cheaper? The only thing I like about heroin more is its all black tar where I am which means 6MAM or whatever MAM that has very trippy effects. But hey, I only get to use heroin sparingly because I am a poor man and I can't put heroin on my credit card (I guess I could bitcoin but I just don't trust heroin being delivered to my house so when I get heroin I'd rather just get it delivered by my dealer)
Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:57:15 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And hey no rancid taste this way either. I don't even cramp too. It's a good way for me maybe someone else will try and like it like I do. You need to brew a batch of say 2 pounds though with very little water though for it to work comfortably and have a fleet enema bottle the extended ones not the smaller ones. If you do the nasal thing I mention dump some on a plate and with a syringe after letting the liquid sit for a long time you'll notice dark spots and milky looking spots try to get the milky spots they're more potent and put the liquid in a saline bottle. You will want a very concentrated batch though for this method to worknow. But hey it works for me and good! I can get high anywhere without anyone suspecting I'm inhaling anything other than saline up my nasal cavities
Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:59:59 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To hold all the material I use a milk jug by the way. REYING To TYPE OUT BUT damn I'm getting too high to explain more. Either way keep enjoying that lovely crude opium we all enjoy brothers
Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 03:22:12 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Currently just scraping flake opium up I'll post the results when I finish it
Hamilton Mudgesare - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 05:53:14 EST ID:c9HlQxHx No.572326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wow dude, way to quadruple post.

Can I ask a general question? Are unwashed poppyseeds still a thing? Is SN still good?
Hamilton Mudgesare - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 05:54:54 EST ID:c9HlQxHx No.572327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How is the latest SN batch?

Are people still willing to talk about it?
Just wondering if I should bother.

Last time I bought was like Oct. 2015.

Unsure if it's been regulated since then.
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 08:51:09 EST ID:m2YooSD1 No.572336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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SN's definitely still good. I just got 25lbs of 10/03/2017 a few days ago and all in all pretty good. Shaken some up right now, I'll tell you how this bag is even though the other wasn't as potent as it could be yet still quite good enough.

>Aciddrop, just cuz you get toasted on something doesn't mean it's highly potent.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 21:56:43 EST ID:iQi541Jr No.572348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
True but even since those first 9 grams, I took 2.5 oz and didn't feel as high and then a full cup and felt close to the first dose. I've had to increase my dose a lot every time. Yolande is built so fast it's crazy. After one dose your tolerence is already rising. It's crazy.

Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:08:18 EST ID:qvbrmZuD No.572409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll get back to you in a few hours ok. Is that cool?

I've been wondering what the BA differences are for theBaine etc.

>for anyone wondering whathe to do with batches that make you sick

Order another bag either same company or not doesn't matter, mix the bags 1:1 or measure your dose 1:1 split. This should help reduce the spike in too much of something bad.

Honestly FTL E and SN are such a good fucking mix. Personally I think I'll like 1.5 SN:FTL E but I need to look into bulk FTL E pricing.

FTL E is easier same strength or slightly less strong than SN by 10-20%, but it's such a unique experience. I'll talk about it later.

It's like trying different weed strains. So cool man.

Gtg ttyl yell
Simon Gabberwutch - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:43:49 EST ID:MV8rPz2m No.572413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So why can i not smoke evaporated pst? what's wrong with taking pst, evaporating the water from it and freebasing the powder left over? why do i have to do that huge tech for opium puddy?
MDCB !Hs1AFHVTXw!!RpEUU2cz - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:55:16 EST ID:LzkgCTZX No.572416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For you to consume morphine by "smoking" it you actually want to vaporise it.

When you make tea (seed/pod) you end up with lots of other inactives that are water soluble as well as plant matter small enough to get through your filter etc.
This is fone to consume orally or even plug but you need a far more pure product to effectively smoke it.

Using a lipid such as parafin or coconut oil first removes all of the fats and oils... extrapolate from there.
The different parts of the simple process to make smokable from tea is not really any more mentally straining than evaporating the liquid, it just involves more steps, each removing an unwanted portion and leaving you to enjoy the good stuff.

Matilda Blatherson - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:41:47 EST ID:s4dc5stR No.572421 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Please do, I'm curious about it too. If you find that the other alkaloids have less of an effect through plugging, let us know.

Not the guy you're replying to, but does this oil step have to be done before the evaporation is started? What if I already have the putty, is it too late to seperate out the fats/oils?
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 23:35:24 EST ID:iQi541Jr No.572423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It might be because my tolerence is so low, but these 10/3 sn seeds are making me itchier than I've ever gotten from opiates. It driving me crazy. Time for another 50 mg dph. Still thinking about snorting some ambien lol
MDCB !Hs1AFHVTXw!!RpEUU2cz - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:21:40 EST ID:LzkgCTZX No.572426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I apologisw that I can't post the TEK for you, I'm sure someone with a computer could.
It may be a bit of a "long way round" but I reccomend you dissolve your putty in warm water and then add a fat that is solid at room temperature. IE; coconut oil. Don't allow it to get as hot as you maybe would have done when there was more liquid, allow to reduce a little, stick it in the freezer until it forms a cold but not frozen layer of water and a hard layer of solid coconut oil containing plant matter and fats and oils but none of the good stuff. Filter again just to remove any small chunks of oil etc.
Plug a small amount of the liquid while you wait for the rest to evaporate into a nice potent product, or follow the rest of the tek and continue toward flake opium or Morphine.
There may be a simpler way but remember the more concerntrated it is, the more mechanical loss you will have.

Enjoy man.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:19:47 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Got the wretched red bags of death from SN.

To be fair they're super old like ordered 2 or 3 weeks ago. So far my 4oz tester seems to be okay. Bitter as always, maybe a bit more bitter than normal.

They're 10/6. My December 2018 bag of FTL was alright. Not quite as strong but definitely more smooth than SN, maybe theBaine idk. The FTL had a weird ass long come up and duration.

I'll get more reports on these 10/3. I've been doing 6-8oz FTL waiting for my huge as fuck SN,order to come in so I can mix them all together and get a consistent product to stabilize while I save the other parts of my life.

See u @ 8 Aciddrop on /b/tube. Anyone else is more than welcome.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:19:48 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
8 pm in what time zone? Ive got nothing going on tonight and it might be cool to hang out and chat with some cool people.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:52:49 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yo ima hop on right now.

I'll hop in IRC and /b/ tube now. I'll keep IRC logged in 24/7 from now on.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 23:11:59 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yup im in the tubes
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 23:12:44 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Such a series, much zeros

Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 02:23:52 EST ID:gTKeaRiV No.572517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry, I ended up snorting some ambien while already on seeds and k pins and fell asleep.LoL
I'll be on here tonight and tomorrow

Ur always welcome to chat q my boy.
LaDiDotty - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:11:45 EST ID:VMINuFQ5 No.572626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Haven't been able to visit, read, post in a bit. Been crazy here. I am glad to read you are doing a bit better. I enjoy your posts & appreciate all your knowledge.
My last seed order, which has been about a month ago, was from both SN & FTL because several orders prior from SN were not good. My 1st couple orders from FTL which I hadn't tried until then were good, better than my last SN orders. But since I keep hoping SN will get back on track I ordered from both places. My SN order had the same exp date as the 2 orders I got prior to this last 1, boo. So I've. Been mixing the 2 & it's OK, not terrible but not fantastic like SN had always been for me prior to this last spring. It's been a lil difficult for me to judge also because I've started ULDN which I've been most pleased with for the most part, still trying to figure out my perfect dose. It has allowed me to stretch things farther though!
I've not seen the red strip on bags from SN. Does it mean anything or is it just a new thing they're doing?
It's about time to order up again & I thought I'd see what the most recent feedback has been W/both places.
Anyhow any info would be most appreciated. I hope things continue to go well & I look forward to reading more about your posts on all things PST.

Take care & Happy New Year.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:47:03 EST ID:X2m3x4BI No.572655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is your name not dr. Mario on irc? Lol also there is too much trap shit on b tube. It's so annoying. Like I don't care if your a trap but you don't have to act all hyper sexual and throw it in our faces all the time. We get it, your a chick with a dick. Good fucking job. Your so anti- establishment, I wish I was you! Please...nb
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:52:52 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ye I get that sometimes. Probably has to do with the drugs in the PST.
Betsy Chiddleville - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:31:56 EST ID:KlMT5bFf No.572674 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Fuck. Any way to deal with it besides drinking loads of coffee to keep yourself awake? Even if I dose PST as early as possible to give it time to wind down if I get decently high I'll end up staying up for a good part of the night waiting to get as sober as I can be so I'm not gasping in my sleep. Might also be due to the fact that I take tricyclic antidepressants daily (which increase sedation to some extent) but afaik there's no negative interactions with respiratory depression / TCAs because I used to nod on heroin / get blackout drunk on alcohol while on them so I don't think they're the reason. What do you do if you need to sleep and still feel short of breath?
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:04:52 EST ID:N9JtNdDc No.572732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dubs and i'll do PST
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:45:46 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's usually Dr_Mario but I forgot my password so sometimes I'll do Dr_Mari0

I try to keep it logged in but I get kicked occasionally. I'll hop on now, hope to hear from you

>sold my 10/3 bags for profit on Craigslist, got 3 10/9 red bags from SN HQ
>just about the same; looks like I was shipped super old stock for some reason
>fuck I'm out of my 6lbs of banana chips and am fiending for them why didn't I buy more from SN

During vacation/break I was drinking booze again and taking 0.5mg xanax + 2.4mg etizolam at night with a 2oz shot of ~60% ABV peach moonshine+ day drinking beers all day maybe 6-10 beers. This was for over 2 weeks constantly (xanax was freely given by parents), so I sort of got addicted again.

I've been on the daily PST use again as I dropped off the etizolam again, like max 1.2mg daily but for 5 days it was like 1.2mg 0mg 0mg 0.6mg 0mg and 0.9mg last night...so as is.

But the PST had been bad again lol. Never over 8oz but still bad. I mean my school work "begins" on Monday or Tuesday and that's when I get monitored again, and we both know 4oz is enough to keep daily users of 12oz or less pretty much out of WD.

My wife was pushing weed because she's biased and a dingy when it comes to drugs and was assuming weed would allow me to use less PST. While I know that works for you, for me it's a total trigger. It's the worst poly drug trigger for me. Nothing makes me crave benzos specifically, alcohol secondly, and a distant third opi. It's as if 7 years of getting baked before doing any other drug has conditioned my brain.

Maybe weed will help cope with the 4oz drop. Basically we agreed tapering for me is a joke unless I have actual wage paying work and piss tests to keep me honest. So we looked back on my handwritten logs to figure out what dosage range is the range where I fall off the wagon. It's around 2-3.5oz.

So we decided get enough seeds so that the mixture is consistent, once we're ready its all in 4oz daily and that's it, bags weighed daily for accountability, etizolam max 2.4mg a day as needed but weekly average of around 7mg or less. This is all while we are patiently waiting for me to get likely a benzo/z drug script and for counseling to somehow help.

Once I get a benzo script I either maintain on 4oz for as long as possible, perhaps even months, so that the transition to rapid PST taper or suboxone taper/maintenance isn't that bad.

Once I get a benzo script...

  1. I tell my psychologist I'm addicted to 100mg morphine XR pills "from india", that I usually eat 1 per day or half of one to stay well, 1.5 to get notably high and 2 to nod me off but haven't done that in ages, I'll beg her not to kick me out or to cut off my benzo script, I'll tell her I can get 1000 benzo pills shipped to my house tomorrow and that I can bring some in if she doesn't believe me. The point being I'm willing to stop them today and work with her every step of the way, but only if she won't axe my benzo prescription and will help me get a bupe script without telling the government I'm a quack or an addict and get my firearm rights taken away. If she refuses I'll just walk away even if the Psych stops scripting me; I'll have one full script which is enough to legalize pissing for benzos up to one year from the prescription.

2. I just keep the benzo script and act like life is a million times better, then when it's time for drug tests I just taper myself off with PST or DNM suboxones knowing I'll have to be entirely opi clean in less than 3 months or live life with a condom filled with piss strapped to a hand warmer and thermometee, compared to getting a sub script that's 5-8x too strong and me hoarding them under supervision of the wife since we both know from yall that basically 1-4mg of bupe is the only range where you actually enjoy it, and I'll never shoot them without microns and even then having a script turns me off from needles even more as they're then not special. That means something like 16mg per day = $20 wholesale $40 retail in my area, meaning $600-1200/month for possibly the rest of my life even if I'm only on 1mg or 2mg per day.

I haven't quite decided yet. The sub script would be more appealing if it covered other rec opi use on tests, but it doesnt. And getting a bupe script from a regular Psych is a pipe dream even if the shrink has 15 years of experience with substance abuse clients.

Maybe I'll just keep lying to get what i want. You start talking to someone and try to pretend they're your friend, but you have to remember they never will be. There's no reason to stretch GAD or so called moderate depression into scripting an opioid. Similarly they would never script my an OIC-curing medication because I would have to come out and say yeah I'm an addict.

>wtf is going on with Mario

Basically getting clean has taken a back seat to getting mental health fixed, finishing school with all As (never had that before), and reconciling issues in the marriage. Obviously substance abuse is related but they're a symptom to bigger problems. The bigger problems need to be addressed before substance abuse because I can quit easily but staying sober is so difficult. If I tell my shrink or whomever they'll decide the drugs are problem #1 and I'll stop seeing them or they won't help me with the other shit.
Shitting Pitthood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:10:45 EST ID:QtdD3W3G No.572823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm looking to reduce my tea down into a paste in a sauce pan. Is boiling okay or should I just let it sit at the steaming stage? I'm getting a lot of conflicting advice on at which temp. it will destroy the alkaloids.
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:48:37 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've got a bit of water & seed slush, been sitting for 2 hours.
Can I do a re-wash or is it past?
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:00:31 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
light boil is fine. it will be hard to make putty in a pan though because scraping it out will be a pain in the ass. maybe once it starts getting thick pour it into pyrex.
Martha Poddlebetch - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:23:07 EST ID:HcRCtA2u No.572826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd pass if I was you imo. At that point the seeds have either soaked up the fun alkaloids, leeched out their shitty ones, or both.
Martha Poddlebetch - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:26:02 EST ID:HcRCtA2u No.572827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>haven't used pst in a few weeks
>slept 3 hours day before yesterday, 3 hours yesterday, and drank a huge wash this morning

holy fuck it's early evening now and I'm doing everything I possibly can to not fall asleep standing up. I've spent all day pounding back redbulls and coffee and it's not having a single effect haha. morphine is fucking godly. nb
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:29:47 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ive tried doing the same, but with caffeine powder, and it just doesn't touch the sedation at all!
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:40:04 EST ID:efRl7seM No.572830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's fine. If you're worried, bring it to a boil for 10 minutes and then drink it.

Remember that the colder your PST, the less shitty it tastes.
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 23:30:30 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Poured it all out into the toilet :( gg no re
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 23:44:15 EST ID:hKxher8H No.572835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When I was addicted to subs and switched to seeds, I never got any itching at all. Now that I'm non-dependant I get super bad itching whenever I chip with seeds.is there anyway to help it? Dph didn't seem to help much. It was hard to get to sleep I was so itchy. Never been that ichy before in my life.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:00:28 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i usually take dph before i dose and then after i come up i take loratadine. Loratadine has the advantage of potentiating due to competitive metabolism via cyp 3a4 and 2d6 as well as being extremely highly protein bound (about 97%) which means it will prevent the opis from becoming protein bound themselves which causes an increase in the amount of the opis that remain in circulation in your blood and able to reach a receptor. if you do a dose thats extra itchy it might be worthwhile to take a large amount of valerian root because valerian is a strong inducer of cyp 2d6 which is responsible for metabolizing codeine to morphine and ime batches of seeds that are high in codeine are the ones that make me the most itchy. I always take valerian with my tea though its a really good potentiator, one of my favorites for sure.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:08:00 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
also meant to post this link to a study on common otc herbal supplements that induce or inhibit important metabolic pathways. I post it every now and then but its good info for people wanting to know what to take to potentiate.

Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 01:26:24 EST ID:KNSBgxcV No.572839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you can normally let those kinds of things sit for like 5 hours. past 1 hour, id boil i after extracting. i also have like 3 bottles of PST first washed in my freezer that i'll do second washes when i have the time.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 03:26:36 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh man. i personally would noooot rewash after an hour i have a couple times in the past when i was desperate but its bad. They probably havent actually gone bad after just an hour or two but they smell and taste soo bad after sitting for even a short time. I just cant handle the smell and taste after theyve been washed and let sit for awhile, they get so rancid its gnarly and i cant deal with it. you might be onto something with freezing them though. Freezing them after the first or second wash and then rewashing with warm soda or whatever you like to use might make it easier to get the last bits of opis without also getting so much of the fats and oils. I may try freezing some seeds before i wash them at all and then freezing a different batch after the first wash to see if it makes any difference in flavor next time i get some.
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:52:42 EST ID:RNsyV50Z No.572895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Rewashes after an hour then rigorouss boil for like 10-15 minutes to kill off all those microgarasms. This works ssewell because they don't have the pbiological mass to cause issue and it kills everything. like i said, you can do a rewash afterl ike 5hours as long as you boil it for 10 straight minutes before drinking.

protip;: pasteuraize then refidgetate your PST for long term storage
Shit Wivingdock - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 06:38:56 EST ID:Z/zcrnFU No.572912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i've left all of my seeds in the bag they come in directly on top of a very hot radiator for close to 24 hours, have I fucked them? )':
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:36:18 EST ID:+RdbqMaj No.572913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As long as it didn't melt you should be good. Morphine is pretty stable and doesn't degrade from heat much really.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:47:13 EST ID:+RdbqMaj No.572924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My seeds have been out for delivery since fucking 8 am. It is now 1:45 pm and I'm starting to get pissed they aren't here yet...like wtf USPS??
Martin Blythecocke - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:35:04 EST ID:jI6uJ6Dv No.572945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So i left out a sealed bottle of poppy seeds and water for 18 hours in a dark room. Is it still okay to drink?
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:46:17 EST ID:eprvQ+t/ No.572946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Boil it on full boil for at least 15 minutes, cool it, and you'll be fine.

Remember: you taste less PST if it's cold.
Martin Blythecocke - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:53:22 EST ID:jI6uJ6Dv No.572947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thanks man
What exactly makes it bad to drink? Doesn't it like ferment or some shit? It smells different but not bad.
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 22:01:16 EST ID:eprvQ+t/ No.572948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bacteria multiple in the water and some stuff like protists and yeast does some anaerobic fermentation to make methane and carbon dioxide from the dead plant matter. It's like if you filled a water bottle and tossed two tablespoons of dirt in the bottle and walked away. Same shit.

The morphine is still there though.
Polly Wedgemadging - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:20:43 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.572959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I feel like no matter how old it gets then, you could just basify then extract and viola
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:29:21 EST ID:N9JtNdDc No.572961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes. Yes you can. I've done this with a bottle I forgot from last February. Just boil it down and you have some powdered morphine if you do it right.

Don't drink it past 30 hours though. The bacteria and fermentation's literal shit will cause poisoning.
LaDiDotty - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:24:31 EST ID:VMINuFQ5 No.573000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hi all,

So I have a couple questions I'm hoping you can help me with. I've been using PST for a while now but have stayed at the same dose the entire time which is approx 2-21/2 cups seed to liquid. I use prob more liquid than most cuz I can drink it easier w/o any nausea.
I've mostly been using SN but because I felt like their quality or strength took a serious dive this last spring & has only improved a small amount, I have also ordered from FTL a few times. The last couple orders I've mixed SN & FTL seeds.
So I know you say to shake for 5-10 mins & that is enough but by accident months back I found that leaving it to soak longer & using certain liquids or a mix of liquids made a big difference in potency. Not just a little but a big difference. At least it has for me anyways.
My questions are this. I've drank PST that has soaked a while & just barely started to ferment. It didn't taste really any different than normal but there was air pressure released in the bottle used for mixing It's nit something that happens regularly but I guess I feel like I'm wasting it if I don't drink it. I've started noticing that I've been having a bodywide pain. I already have several pain issues which is why I started using PST. I'm trying to figure out if what I'm feeling is due to tolerance, my body just developing more issues or if I'm possibly having some type of reaction to a build up of whatever from the PST.
The WD's from this do suck & ive def noticed I start to feel them quite quickly now but what I can't tell is if it's from more from the decrease in strength/quality of the seeds or my tolly. I do take breaks from PST but not as much as I used to. I've been afraid to use more than what I've been using.
I know you guys have talked about the different toxins or possible things that can build up. What do you think are the most common toxins are that could build up? Is there a difference between brands since they're grown in different areas & soil?

Last, on a diff note, what are your opinions of quality w/SN as of late? What is the deal w/the red strip I read about?

I appreciate your input as always. Thanks.
Walter Duckcocke - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:30:09 EST ID:Af7b7NA1 No.573124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got some naltrexone to help me get off this stuff. Can I just use low dose naltrexone while slowly taking less PST over a few months to reduce usage? Or does it not work like that? I read the naltrexone prevents tolerance so maybe it could be used to reduce usage
Walter Duckcocke - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:36:21 EST ID:Af7b7NA1 No.573125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
throw it in the microwave for 30 seconds to kill bacteria
Walter Duckcocke - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:41:15 EST ID:Af7b7NA1 No.573126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
after some research it seems microwaving doesn't actually kill bacteria, apparently it's the heat.

I was always told to microwave sponges to kill bacteria.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:16:24 EST ID:Y+xKONG7 No.573132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can nigga but the sponges need to be wet. Essentially it pasteurizes itself in steam
StimLion !J2qtxSkYVE - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:34:25 EST ID:Xx8M2J0a No.573134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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500g of Bob's raw, whole seeds

Cold water, two runs

Sippin up, got some booze and grass, hoping to relax tonight
LaDiDotty - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 15:17:16 EST ID:tCTxneYl No.573156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hey all,

So I just got my order from SN. They shipped from the Riv location & the bags have a red top w/an exp date of 10-2017. Can anyone please tell me what the story is w/these red bags &/or the exp date? I would really appreciate your input.

Fucking Fushlock - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 17:59:41 EST ID:5XTppoad No.573172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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last thread i had some questions about poppy pod tea. well, just the other week i ended up trying it, so i'm sharing my experience.

i ground up about 10 pods in total and measured out ~5.5g of pod material. I added this to ~150mL water with about 1/4 the juice of a lemon. i heated the water to ~80 C and let it steep for 45 minutes, stirring occasionally. I then poured the liquid through a coffee filter. I consumed the tea over a period of about 20 minutes.

the flavor was gross but subtle. it felt like i could easily vomit if i tried to. the effects started around an hour later but i didn't really notice them until two hours after consumption.

the effects were warm and comfortable. it reminded me of the feeling when you wake up before your alarm goes off and you've still got like 10 minutes until you have to get up so you just wrap yourself in your blankets and curl up.

6 hours after initially consuming the tea, i decided to drink 4 more grams.

one hour later, i felt the familiar itchiness on my face. also i felt nausea. if i had taken a few grams more i would have likely thrown up. i figure my ideal dose is around 8g. maybe if i took that much i could actually nod. otherwise the experience was like a very long hydrocodone.

i went to bed 10 hours after intially consuming the pod tea. i felt the effects the next morning. perhaps i metabolize poppy pod tea very slowly.

all in all the experience was enjoyable, albeit very long acting. i probably wouldn't do it again unless i had no other painkillers, or if i was doing it with somebody who wanted to try tea with me. the flavor was gross and the effects were subtle. i'd much rather rail dillies or pop oxys than have to cook up tea for an hour and choke down the vile liquid. that being said, i'm going to prepare tea a few more times to see what my maximum is. i have very strict rules regarding my consumption of opioids, so i won't be taking it again for at least another month.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:06:29 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just curious, but has anyone managed a good poppy pod (or poppy seed) extraction to either putty, or more importantly; papaveretum (full spectrum opium alkaloid salts) and if their tek was in any better or easier than the ones you can pull up using google; could you share the knowledge? I really want to make myself some morphine/papaveretum or poppy pod putty that can be plugged or, even better; smoked. Poppies are still cheap here and I want to do an extraction before they aren't readily available, though they seem to have weathered Theresa May's thick as pig shit drugs laws.
I've managed to make poppy pod putty before using water with cold distillation then evaporation though it wasn't particularly potent by weight, now that I can get chemical supplies easier and have done some more complex teks I'd like to have another shot at it.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:18:28 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You don't need to use anywhere near that amount of water with pods, 1ml per gram is more than enough, simply filter through a cheesecloth and wring it to dry, you can then either freeze the pods or wash them again to get all of the alkaloids You also used a very low dose of pod tea, poppy pods are about 1% morphine by weight, so you had ~55mg of morphine, possibly less; though the bioavailability is higher for tea. If the pods come cheap, dose high; if they're expensive then they aren't really worth it. You could have managed easily with about 50ml of water; the tea doesn't have anywhere near as strong a taste when it's cold either, so sticking it in the fridge or straining it over ice will help with the taste.
nb, double post.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:29:40 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.573183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
refer to the picture in this post. follow that but save all the alkaloids and combine them all.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:30:33 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.573184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
uh oops sorry in this post
Solidikans - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 06:44:34 EST ID:d5zvmmHD No.573196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So is Mario dead?

Or did he get clean?
Molly Nandlepeg - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 07:25:52 EST ID:71ZJZbqG No.573197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been stuck huffing chemicals since my dealer is MIA and I'm a year away from being able to buy a drink in the US, so unless I can find a better way to get fucked up, I guess I'm just gonna have to huff shitty chemicals until I become retarded. I'd rather die early than be sober. I've had enough of that bullshit.functional.
Molly Nandlepeg - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 07:38:41 EST ID:71ZJZbqG No.573198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh yeah. I was gonna add something about how opiates are more functional functional than benzos for me but didn't deem it necessary and I didn't highlight the last word when deleting the text. It's fucking with my OCD.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:04:55 EST ID:9j22uaA0 No.573208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not sure, haven't seen him post In awhile. I think he's probably ok, hopefully he's ok and just been busy. Im a lil worried though. He's my broski.
Sidney Blackson - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 12:45:04 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just got 3 lb river SN - lot T9R1137 exp 10/6 new packaging.

Smells like SN always has, the water is dark and light doesn't shine all the way through it, plus mildly bitter taste with sediment at the botton. Good sign, I just drank half of my 1-lb wash, hopefully I'll remember to clue y'all in about how it goes.
Hannah Fundlemed - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 13:41:19 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Please do
I should have an order of SN in by Monday, but I've been hearing rumors that the quality is pretty subpar.

I'm not particularly worried as I have 0 opi tolerance at the moment, so unless they were completely washed I should feel something,
but still let a bropi know!!
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:22:00 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh yes - this is definitely the SN we've all known to love.

Such a great feeling. <3
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:30:06 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I ordered these on thursday - got them today. I have heard that the batches have been inconsistent recently but this is my third bag since the bag redesign and they've all been great. I also have a tolerance over 200 mg oxycodone so for it to get me not just feeling good but actually high is a good sign. I used just under a pound and washed only once so if you really have minimal tolerance then tread lightly.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:54:23 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.573226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm just "enjoying" life one day at a time before I have to do mad dash academics again...which starts monday. I hate it so much but it's ALMOST over. 7 years of work, approximately 50 college courses, and I'm burned out and mentally hung over essentially 2/3 of one class' workload. I don't even have to go to any more scheduled classes at this point.

Basically I have two projects that I have to create "schedules" outlining the timeliness for completion, and tl;dr project #1 will take one week on Vyvanse

(Peach had to pay over $200 for 30x40mg vyvanse pills aka $7 each for what amounts to ~15mg adderall XR because it's a new year and insurance drug deductible doesn't cover crap. Even if we do hit our deductible amount Peach is forced off her parents insurance plan in less than 6-9 months, meaning Vyvanse will always be too expensive. Even for the perks of being legal, no levoamphetamine etc, $7ea for ~15.694mg of adderall is ludicrouse.

Now we have to convince doc to script her generic adderall XR or dexedrine for off label binge eating disorder. No idea what she will say we're just worried she'll switch her to something that's not even a stim and try to fool us, and if this happens, do we interject with adderall XR pamphlets or just try to stay on Vyvanse while we doc shop to find someone who will switch her over?)

or two weeks without it. Project #2 will take ages at least a month of 50hrs/wk and therefore might run all the way into late March. They want me to construct the work timeline in like 5 days but I'll just do it Monday.

I'm eagerly waiting to see a Psychiatrist that's a 6-9 week wait to see when my chart says urgent 2-5 days. For etizolam vs alrazolam, Xanax is better for sleep and muscle relaxation, but I find their anxiolytic properties equal and etizolam is more hypnotic.

I would love to give hydroxyzine a real try, maybe triazolam or ambien/lunesta/sonata as in an entire month not just a few rec days

Something like 25-50mg hydroxyzine with a raw valerian root/kava kava Waka Lateral root/chamomile tea stack with 7.5mg ambien (or Whichever z-drug is best consumed orally so less abuse potential), with say 0.5mg xanax 15mins after the ambien so I fall asleep and stay asleep.

Maybe eventually switch to Ambien CR and cut the xanax in half or out all together for sleep. Then low dose lorazepam/diazepam/Clonazepam like 0.5-1mg kpin equivalent for 3-5 days out of the week and hope the two nights of sleep benzos will hold me over on the weekends.

I really want to only use as needed; I ruined opioids as a useful tool and I still have a chance with benzos. My doses were almlost always therapeutic range, like 2mg real xanax max at once and maybe 6-8mg etizolam in a day maximum ever, usually 0.6/0.9/1
2mg etiz and the occasional ~1.5/1.8/2.1/2.4mg

I'm just fearful they'll piss test and kick me out for weed, likely opi at 3-9 days dirty window, benzo via etizolam for that mystery 2-7 day window, and possibly amphetamine from occasional vyvanse.... at least opi and weed for sure . I've smoked maybe 2.5-3.5g of 25% herb in the last month or so, aka I'm fucked for a month even if I quit seeds and etizolam. I'll need to source clean piss so this could get complicated.

>BWMaintenance 6oz of PST mix three bags of 10/6 red bag SN one bag of FTL-E

>might order more SN BANANA CHIPS (get 10lbs seeds for $48 and 2x3lbs of Banana chips for $12 total, puts you at $59.XX, get one more lb of bananas for overpriced $2.50 OR spixe it up by getting 1lb of sweet dank dried sugared kiwis for $2.50 to raise your total to ~$61.XX. BOOM free shipping and using the 10% off coupon RT10SC or similar Google it, it drops from $62.XX*0.9= $56.25

>So 2x5lb bags from the river that normally cost $60 total, with 2 day shipping that's become less and less just 2 days and more like 4

>or use above method to get the 2x5lbs seeds (normally $60) PLUS 6lbs of healthy banana chips great for fiber and and high calorie PLUS a pound of sweet sugared kiwis to chew on between PST guzzling, ALL FOR ~$56.25 aka cheaper than the river alone, at the expense of having to wait 4-6 days from order to arrival.

Kind of want new seeds to confirm where SN is headed, or if bulkier FTL E is available at realistic prices.

I've started my Craigslist listing for poppy seed sales. Super discrete listing and just say "I'm a local supplier of poppy seeds and sometimes other seeds and nuts" "these are top quality organic unprocessed seeds, perfect for all your family cooking and bake sale needs".

Just been doing 10lb for $60, 5lb for $35 (may drop 5lb to $30 for repeats or people who mention it's cheaper on amazon but they like my day of convenience) 2.5lbs for $20, and a "fat pound" (1.1-1.15lb, aka $9/lb) for $10. I don't put them in the SN bags of course, but I've been telling them in person to "weigh them out carefully" and to "start with no more than 4oz". Talk about easy money lol.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:58:25 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.573227 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>cutting down from some nutso doses that I seriously don't feel anymore...8oz and don't feel anything....10oz and not much...tried 12oz and got so pissed I didn't dose for 3 days

Now it's just accepting that I won't even get a 45min buzz. Ah well what can I do apart from taper and quit.

Our doctor friend thinks I use morphine to self medicate for depression. Lol really you don't say?

>part of why I'm off and on with IRC is because it doesn't like AFKers very much. Sorry about skipping that other time...third times the charm? Set it up my friend. We just gotta connect once or twice to make it happen.

I'm busy today unfortunately maybe tonight though.

I'll be back in a but, just have to pick up my most recent gun purchase.

I've been selling off a few and buying a a couple, mostly downsizing my stash of cheapo, garbage brand, used guns that I bought for largely ripoff prices because I was 18-20 and could only buy handguns from private sales back in the day. We would just meet at a gun range to test a products functionality, haggle on price in the parking lot, pay him and off I went.

This makes many of them legal yet "unregistered" aka legal yet "untraceable" in that the guy who sold them to me no paperwork no ID...meaning if I cleaned them up diligently and wear gloves, my prints are off and deplorables would rather pay $500 for 10 years used no government records over $500 new. So there's some decent trades to be made to build my collection without breaking any laws.

Well that's it; 18 months of reckless use is all it takes to ramrod tolerance forever. I'm kind of glad my addiction isn't rule #1 right now as that just makes me more anxious...

>what's the rough equivalent of 5.33-6oz of ~6\10 SN seeds converted into non-IV doses of bupe? I was thinking more 6oz than

Assuming 6/10 seeds are 150ug/g of morphine (we will never know, but I swear my numbers seem too low.), 6oz of PST is only 25.5mg oral morphine apparently.
Caroline Chubberforth - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 17:30:40 EST ID:QtdD3W3G No.573244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know this is a really late reply but you say that a light boil is acceptable? Do you know around what temp I should avoid getting to? Because as it reduces more and more the temp is sure to rise. I have a candy thermometer that will beep if it gets too high of a temp, depending on what I set it to.

Also, what are some good potentiates for PST? I know that some of the traditional ones should be avoided due to codeine needing to be metabolised into morphine.
Solidikans - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 19:00:54 EST ID:d5zvmmHD No.573253 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Well glad to hear your not doing to bad.
And 6oz of decent PST at your tolerance would probably be fine starting at 8mg bupe and then working down to 4-6mg to maintain. The only problem I had was the insanely long half life of PST so I had to wait like 3 days to induct on subs, and I still pot percipitated withdrawal but it only lasted like 6 hours.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 22:00:23 EST ID:9j22uaA0 No.573262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
5.33 oz is what my tolerence was for a long time. I would say it's equal to about 4 mg sublingual , 3 mg snorted/ plugged and 2 mg I.v. ur lucky I got to try some of that batch. Pretty good quality seeds if you ask me but my tolerence is way down since I actually got myself unhooked. Since mid October I've only used 3 times. Thanks giving, christmas and then a week ago I used for 3 days, skipped a week and then used 3 more days...so out of 3 months I've used about 8 days total, not too bad.
I quit from that dose man. when I got down to 5 oz I just cut my dose in half every day down to about a teaspoon and the stopped. I suggest you try this. It worked pretty well actually
These are my familiar dosing ranges too lol
Yeah I figured out how to get the irc to work anyways on my tablet, as long as I use the link at the top of the page it works but if I type it in it doesn't lol go figure..
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 22:04:49 EST ID:9j22uaA0 No.573263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
5.33 oz is what my tolerence was for a long time. I would say it's equal to about 4 mg sublingual , 3 mg snorted/ plugged and 2 mg I.v. ur lucky I got to try some of that batch. Pretty good quality seeds if you ask me but my tolerence is way down since I actually got myself unhooked. Since mid October I've only used 3 times. Thanks giving, christmas and then a week ago I used for 3 days, skipped a week and then used 3 more days...so out of 3 months I've used about 8 days total, not too bad.
I quit from that dose man. when I got down to 5 oz I just cut my dose in half every day down to about a teaspoon and the stopped. I suggest you try this. It worked pretty well actually
These are my familiar dosing ranges too lol
Yeah I figured out how to get the irc to work anyways on my tablet, as long as I use the link at the top of the page it works but if I type it in it doesn't lol go figure..
Angus Dovinggold - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 23:11:31 EST ID:5XTppoad No.573266 Ignore Report Quick Reply

while the dose may be low, i felt nausea creeping up when my overall dose reached ~9.5g.

i'd rather have a shallow experience than spend an afternoon wrapped around a toilet.

i've had too many experiences railing just a little too much dilaudid and then puking until i'm empty, then dry heaving some more.

i'll try less water though, the next time i try. i figured with 150 mL i could take a mouthful and it wouldn't be too bad, versus a tiny shot of some really wretched fluid.

i'm exaggerating though, it wasn't actually that bad. i'm sure as you do it more the taste is less bothersome.
Cyril Clottingkare - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 00:02:26 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So yeah, after the initial comeup where I posted "it works!" it's been pretty lackluster. I thought that I was still coming up but apparently that was as high as I was going to get today. It did take me a long time to finish drinking it (like 3 hours, but I think this particular batch is just weaker than usual (not bunk though). I'll try slamming my whole dose within 5 or 10 minutes tomorrow and see if it ends up like it really should.
Nell Fodgelock - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 00:09:49 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.573268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that shit is so fucking lanky, it's starving for more light you stupid fuck.
post that on /grow/ please.
Ernest Blythespear - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 01:09:00 EST ID:DnRcrbWW No.573271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone ever order SN through amazon?
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 01:26:00 EST ID:9j22uaA0 No.573272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Only just half the people on here, that's all.
Cyril Clottingkare - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 04:20:13 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know it's stretched as fuck. I grew it in my dorm in college in 2012 with just 2 CFL bulbs (which were normally above the plant - I moved them for better photo lighting).

All things considered (including me being gone for 4-6 days at a time often) I think it went well for a fun experiment to see if I could grow them indoors w/ CFLs.
Cornelius Drenningstone - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 16:29:36 EST ID:KkJQtM10 No.573284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
did you get high off that thing
Martin Clockledork - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:00:03 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Can anyone clue me in as to how long one can store pst?

Like if I were to brew a batch tonight and refrigerate it for tomorrow morning (probably a little over 12 hours) will it still be good?

I feel like this is a dumb question, but I haven't made pst in a while so I've sort of forgotten the tricks of the trade so to speak
Thomas Goodfuck - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:48:15 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.573321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
search the thread.
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:50:32 EST ID:aYmDNTuB No.573322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've answered this like 3 times now.

>Open thread
>Ctrl+f: "boil it"
Baron Von Feelsgood - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:07:12 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573323 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Iodine or chlorine pills should help it keep as well; as would pasteurising it. Both pasteruisation and water sterilisation chemicals will help it keep without you having to boil it, boiling may destroy some of the morphine and liquids have to be boiled for a while before they're sterile.
Cyril Grandway - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:16:06 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay thank you

I saw the other posts about boiling it, but I was under the impression it destroys the morphine, so I wanted to try to steer clear from it if I could
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:26:56 EST ID:6kKkBQVB No.573342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I forget at what exact temperature morphine degrades (I think it's at least over 200°C), but regardless, considering that I frequently do morphine -> diamorphine (heroin) cooks with the oven set to 150°C (which obviously is significantly above the boiling point of water), then I can conclude that there's no issue of morphine being 'destroyed' by boiling.
Eugene Drullyfield - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 21:37:31 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.573389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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whered you get the AA?
Basil Saffinglitch - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 00:38:36 EST ID:uY4TmNyV No.573391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ya boiling would always work. However I've kept pst in a cold room (55-60F) for 48-60 hours and drank it and nothing heinous happened to me. Unless that's how I got this horrid tonsilitis....? Is that possible?
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 01:47:55 EST ID:6kKkBQVB No.573393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My dealer. It's diverted en-masse in NZ as homebake is our only real source of heroin here.
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 02:23:50 EST ID:N9JtNdDc No.573394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>nothing heinous happened to me
>i got this horrid tonsilitis

"nothing heinous happened to me except this horrid thing"

Yes anon. It is for sure possible...
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 05:29:47 EST ID:6kKkBQVB No.573400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh but if you were personally interested in some basic oven chemistry and have some morphine tabs lying around... well, the internet can perhaps help you there with an order of a strictly educational aspirin synthesis kit. My situation is an exception in that I have local access to AA, in fact up until recently we were getting it for free with the 100mg morphine tabs we buy. Now it's a couple of dollars for a single mL but meh, you barely need even .1mL to turn 100mg so the shit lasts for a long time.
Eugene Drullyfield - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 16:46:46 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.573421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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2x 25mL of Acetic anhydride
2x 25mL of Sulfuric acid
2x 25mL of Toluene
15g of Salicylic acid
Cyril Gillywick - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 12:46:47 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So Ive drank PST a couple times this past week. The first few doses were pretty good, but I'm starting to notice some undesirable effects.
Namely that Ive been vomiting late at night and early in the morning. Ive been having stomach cramps and diarrhea, when Im not constipated that is. Also my vision has been pretty blurry and I've had to read with one eye open at times.

Now these all sound like typical high dose opiate effects, but the thing is, I haven't been feeling that high.

Perhaps there is a high thebaine content in this batch? Perhaps Ive been dosing too much and too often. Probably a combination of both
Charles Fuggledale - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 14:03:25 EST ID:5sWQtFwt No.573510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry if this question's been asked a dozen times already, I just don't have time to read through the whole thread right now.

TL;DR - I can't drink PST anymore, I need the best way to turn it into putty. I'm going to grab some IPA while I'm out today and try just making it with that and letting it evaporate, but if there's a better way that doesn't require a ton of extra supplies, I figure someone here will know. Thanks in advance, guys, I'll be back later to read through the thread.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 14:26:03 EST ID:vsZKL94+ No.573512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Have fun with your 3 - 10 day evaporation process.
Charles Fuggledale - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:08:07 EST ID:5sWQtFwt No.573513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Doesn't isopropyl alcohol evaporate in a matter of hours?
I honestly didn't even realize that my post could've been interpreted as me trying to use beer to make PST when I typed it out lol
Anyway, it's as simple as washing the seeds with iso and pouring it into a dish with a good surface area to evaporate, right?
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:29:10 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Iso evaporates fast. If you can't get iso alcohol get methylated spirit (make sure it doesn't have denatonium in it), the methanol in it won't be an issue as you'll be evaporating it off. Gentle heating in a water bath will help speed both iso and methylated spirit evaporation up. Avoid any naked flames or spark sources.
Jenny Fallernedging - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 17:02:19 EST ID:1jKBWc6i No.573517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Am I an ass hole?
Anybody else gotten their fix from Whole Foods before?
Barnaby Blinningnot - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 17:12:41 EST ID:uY4TmNyV No.573518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The old tea didn't smell or taste any different than the fresh stuff, so I assumed it'd be fine. I also figured if anything bad happened to me it would come in the form of food-poisoning-esque symptoms.

The antibiotics I've been prescribed aren't helping to it's probably viral, and a virus isn't more likely to make you sick the longer it sits in water right? Only bacteria multiply like that I thought.

Anyway I won't be drinking tea that old again.
Wesley Clerrybot - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:28:52 EST ID:LQddayr4 No.573519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
These won't work. I've never gotten usable seeds from WF.
Shit Backleridge - Sat, 04 Feb 2017 13:48:44 EST ID:5sWQtFwt No.573539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've had to use seeds from WF before to avoid withdrawals and they got me feeling alright. Not great, pretty bad for PST, but definitely usable if that's your only option. Sprout's always has good seeds, though, and there's a local store in AZ with a huge bulk section that always has dank seeds, so I never go to WF unless it's literally the only place I can go.

Cool, thanks.
Nathaniel Gundleworth - Sat, 04 Feb 2017 15:23:21 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Drank about half a 1 lb wash of SN around 7 this morning. Its now 3 in the afternoon and I'm still riding a pleasant little wave. Definitely a good batch. Not knock-you-on-your-ass good, but beats the last batch I had by a long shot. Though keep in mind I have 0 to low tolerance atm.

I spent some of my time high trying to write, but it was going absolutely nowhere. I'd get towards the end of a sentence then I'd nod out, but I'd keep writing and as a result the page is full of sentences that start off coherent and then suddenly descend down the page into tiny, trailing scribbles.

How the fuck did Burroughs do it?
Cedric Pummertidging - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 04:12:53 EST ID:0w/9n6wZ No.573578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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opiates and food dont mix well I tell you hwat. ruins the high!

Ah but nausea goes away with tolerance.
Ah but to get tolerance you need to dose frequently.
Ah but to dose frequently gives you awful bowel problems.

What a shitty drug. I want my $400 back.
Cornelius Crengerlan - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 03:53:10 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I know it's been a week, but I just want to say that that shit blew me away despite my initial impressions. I drove my car off the road several times after nodding hard - no damage somehow - then I don't remember an entire 3-day span and woke up with my place a fucking mess - good times. Ordering more tomorrow.

Hedda Drendledale - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:42:12 EST ID:AXqNiov9 No.573615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey guys! PST Newbie here, have a 5lber of SN coming to me from the river today. I was just wondering how much I should try rinsing for my first time, I'm a bigger guy (about 280 lbs) but I haven't done opiates in over 6 months. I've heard people say try a half LB for the first rinse but I've also heard people say start with even less than that.
Betsy Dartshaw - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 15:08:28 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.573621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
out of the last 5 or 6 bags ive gotten from SN only one of them has been good

either that or my tolerance is climbing strangely

but i mean like 2 of these were basically inactive

oh well its almost time to come off anyway
John Crudgestock - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:27:58 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
At 280 lbs, a 1 lb. wash should be good. However, the trick is to make sure that you take your first dose when you don't have anything to do for a while. You can never be quite sure how you're going to be effected.

My mistake when getting back into seeds is that I took my first wash of just 2 cups (I'm only about 120 lbs) when I had class all day. Needless to say I got a lot of comments.
Cornelius Crengerlan - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:29:58 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Depending on the potency of the batch a 1lb wash could be waaaaay too potent for someone who's been clean for months, even if they're larger.
Cedric Claycocke - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 01:44:45 EST ID:AXqNiov9 No.573660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't have a scale so I'm going try about 2 cups (i know cups are a volume measurment not weight yadayada) but I'm going to go about drinking it very slowly to get a gauge for how I react to it.
breakabond - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 07:25:50 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.573667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Agreed. My first PST dose (at no tolerance) was unmeasured -> very nauseas.

My next dose was 7 grams of SN, which was pleasant. Then 12g, 15g, 20g. Now I can do an oz and be okay.
Cornelius Blythedale - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 10:44:07 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That feel when you open the box and...

Exp. 10/6 T3R3177 - r3dd1t calls it the A+ batch of 10/6 which was generally good.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 11:23:01 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This should be enough pods for tonight's tea
Hedda Trotwater - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 11:34:05 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good plan. 2 cups is a pretty solid starter dose. Cornelius is right, 1 lb is a little much. Sorry I kinda jumped the gun there. I forgot how used to PST I am haha glad you didn't listen to me.

God speed m8
Baron Von Feelsgood - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 12:44:47 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Brewed 25 pods up. Feels anticlimactic.
Gonna have to extract the morphine from them and shoot that sheiit.
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 13:14:57 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nice, were they from SPP? Why not just ground them up into dust and mix the dust into juice and drink that? That's always been my method and it lasts 5-8x longer than shooting.

2 hours into 1/4 lb and feeling good, about to take another 1/3 lb or so - this shit is stong, I'm glad I didn't start with a pound like I usually do. Again, it's SN river Exp. 10/6, batch T3R3177 that I ordered just yesterday. A to A+ quality.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 13:37:36 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ground them up in a blender, added 1 and a half cups of water, squeezed through a cheesecloth, got 100mls of opaque red-black liquid (looked similar to laudanum); they came from a UK vendor, got 1kg in total.
I'm scripted methadone so I'll be shooting it (probably a gram in total) out of curiosity. Might acetylate it first if I can get some acetic anhydride or acetyl chloride.
I'll get a friend over to the house tomorrow to work as a lab assist. Will probably extract using surgical spirit and lye.
Eugene Fepperfoot - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 22:46:08 EST ID:AXqNiov9 No.573708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So a little update. Did a wash on the 2 cups and drank half of the brew, definitely feeling it. Not sure how I feel about the actual high though it feels rather muddy compared to other opiates, it's not unpleasant though just different. I don't really know if im going to drink the rest of it tonight because i feel like if i did i would feel sick.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 22:58:41 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Take an antiemetic such as promethazine, diphenhydramine or (if you can get a hold of it) ondansetron.
Ontansetron + a sedative antihistamine knocks out nausea completely in most cases.
Fanny Grandstock - Thu, 09 Feb 2017 20:55:32 EST ID:v/HV3g9k No.573807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What do you guys think of the new TNT site? Is it legit and trust worthy? I got a bit sus'd out at first when I went on it.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:45:08 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.573971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've always found TNT to not be worth the price. I understand the interest in seeds that are never bunk, but we have one or two brands right now that never churn out less than 3.5/10 quality, average of 4.5/10. Other said brands are $4-6/lb for solid shit, whereas last I checked TNT was around $10/lb. it's just not worth it, best case scenario they're twice as strong and you break even comparatively.

My recent FTL experience did not meet my standards. Sure it was only one bag but I've bought at least 50lbs from FTL in my life and every time it was comparatively garbage. We have a gold (or at least silver) standard right now after the slump we had from the Fall harvest.

Those Winter and Spring 2014 seeds will likely never be matched again. It just won't happen.

Havent had a 9/10 or higher since then.
Basil Chumblestark - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:01:57 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Made a 3 cup batch this morning and chucked it back all excited to have a cozy Sunday getting Sunday things done. Whoops.

I went to the library to do some reading and lo and behold, 1 hour later I'm doing the chin-to-chest dance in my seat. Eventually the book just drops out of my hand and the guy sitting across the room was just like, "dude, I think you need a nap."

So I went back home and nodded out all day. Pretty much wasn't productive again till 6 hours later when I managed to scribble out 1 page of the short story I've been working on.

Respect the tolerance break folks.
Fucking Denningwater - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 01:21:09 EST ID:E/MYjo7I No.573983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
anyone know the status on australian supermarket brands? are they still bunk?
Nathaniel Worthinggold - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 05:20:38 EST ID:MJ2IkSeC No.573989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Last time I tried the ones carried by both major chains (new years day) they were still pretty damn weak. Not inactive but I took ~4kg then ~2kg for a pretty average buzz, bupe probably plays a role though. For real though wholesale seeds online are so much cheaper, like $6.50 a kg cheap and very likely stronger from what I hear (though I don't have a reliable source on that). Definitely the way I'm going to be going if/when I try this again since I could get 15kg for just under what I normally spend on one dose.
Nathaniel Worthinggold - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 05:29:16 EST ID:MJ2IkSeC No.573992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just thought I'd add that the current batches have a lot of clumping from what I've seen, bought 3kg the other day but ended up dumping the brew because reasons.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:49:12 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.574092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Didn't have a chance to dose my 4oz maintenance yesterday...

Instead of dosing all 8oz like a complete fool I'm splitting the difference and measuring up 6oz right now.

>Let's get buzzin
>X Files after the comeup

My problem is I never shake and strain both washes before starting the other one. So my ultimate situation is downing 1st wash within 15mins maybe 20-30 if I'm not paying attention, and tl;Dr

>My washes are too staggered I need to finish all three in 10mins

Fuck. It's the only way I get high off these.
Doris Nangerwell - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 14:18:20 EST ID:UMxO2uwC No.574102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Since the river is currently out of WGN and most SN, I'll be hitting Sprout's in my city on Friday night. I'm glad I came across this post, as I'm a bit nervous about it and if they'll be washed. I called them and they do carry bulk seeds. Are they likely to be unwashed since their from Sprout's? Is there a way I can tell if they're washed or not there at the store?

Does anyone else have any experience with them? Thanks!
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:32:49 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>River out of SN

WTF!? Yesterday night they had all sizes with 1-day ship available now they're out of all but the 1-lb!? Goddamnit I was going to order today!

AND FTL (E) no longer gets Prime shipping?! What the fuuuucccckkkk!!!

I was planning to binge on pst and addies from thursday to sunday - shit is ruined!
Shitting Dipperbane - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:00:39 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.574109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why dont you order SN straight from their site?
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:07:16 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
B/c I have a need... A need for shipping speed.
!pr5VMTw.cM - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:12:27 EST ID:HDgveaMZ No.574144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is what I've been up to lately, PST and amphetamines is a nice combo
Rebecca Bluckleched - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:09:55 EST ID:MV8rPz2m No.574158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just got a shipment of SN, straight from the site. My last batch was iffy, rate it at a 5/10. There were goodies in it but it just didn't give me that warm fuzzy,feeling. The new Batch I got has a lot code of t10r2457 and an exp date of 11/9 let you know how it goes
Panda5 on Android - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:30:41 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Please, for the love of poppies, tell us how it goes. I've yet to get a bad batch but /r/poppytea has been saying some scary shit about the recent ones. Please, if you could, include a pic of your washed water in good lighting and tell roughly how much you washed with. If you're new, know that this site automatically strips image EXIF data so it's untraceable - of course its legal anyway so yeah.
Rebecca Bluckleched - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:16:49 EST ID:MV8rPz2m No.574178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it went really well, I don't have a pic of the wash and I used raspberry iced tea to wash anyway so you wouldn't be see anything. I used ~1/2lbs of SN and I could see a thick ring of sediment at the bottom of my cup right after I strained my second wash!! feeling good and I ate ice cream so I didn't really get much of a nod but I drank it only 3 hours ago. i'd give it an 8/10 and I did get the bags with the red line at the top
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:42:58 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thanks for responding! There is hope!
LaDiDotty - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 19:15:10 EST ID:tCTxneYl No.574186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey guys,

My last order of SN was better than several of the orders before it, prob a 6-7 out of 10. I also have been ordering FTL which I'd rate about the same.
But, last night I had something weird happen. When my SN order came in I kinda forgot I still had some FTL left & began using just the SN. (My bags came direct from their site, have a red strip across the top & an exp date of 11/9/17. The FTL bags also came direct from their site w/an exp date of 12 /17) So last night I went back to using 1/2 SN & 1/2 FTL approx 1 cup of each. I couldn't figure out why I wasn't feeling as good while using only SN until last night. After drinking most of the wash from the FTL & SN combo I went to sleep. When I woke up this morning I was still buzzed.
FWIW I have a fairly high tolly & this could've just been a coincidence. I've also been using ULDN which made a huge difference in the beginning but lately not so much. Not sure if I'm taking the correct amount. Anyhow, to see I've just mixed up another wash w/both brands. I will report back later on what I noticed.
Have a great day!
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:09:03 EST ID:m+fJWns7 No.574221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fuck it to hell. I just wrote a huge post and it got deleted. Don't you guys love it when that happens. Any I got some SN with the red seal for the first time and natural panicked. They look the same(no reds), smell the same but they felt a tiny tiny TINY bit damp. Being in WD this worried me so I dosed a little higher than I normally would. Looking back at it not sure it was the best idea but easier said than done when in WDS. My first glass was about 40 minutes ago and I can confirm they definitely are not bunk. It was likely shitty coincidence that led people to believe this because I've had bunk bags without the red seal. Now I'm starting to get a little itchy and my feet feel like theyre sinking in quicksand.

Will report back as three day ago so on to tell you guys how it played out.

tl;dr SN red seal doesn't mean bunk.
Ian Fovingfadge - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:21:37 EST ID:bwsAT6cS No.574222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Could someone explain the abbreviations to me so I can interpret all th3 data in this thread? SN? I come here infrequently but I've never seen this thread before, it's all new. Do you guys also have a page or something that helps point in the direction of where and how to make pxt?
Jenny Gillystick - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:21:42 EST ID:Z336Y7AF No.574223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Could someone explain the abbreviations to me so I can interpret all th3 data in this thread? SN? I come here infrequently but I've never seen this thread before, it's all new. Do you guys also have a page or something that helps point in the direction of where and how to make pxt?
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:32:10 EST ID:FcSp2C00 No.574228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yup just different packaging.

Always remember to ctrl+a then ctrl+c your entire post before you hit submit or the internet will consume your post as a sacrifice.


No we wont. Apply some brain cells kiddo. Most of them are abbreviations for suppliers of seeds that are commonly good. PST is poppy seed tea and PPT is poppy pod tea.

Also speaking of suppliers anybody try WGN anytime recently? I noticed theyre cheap and seem to have good reviews. May just end up grabbing some.
Lillian Claystone - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:05:05 EST ID:+iKbEg8z No.574229 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Anyone have experience quitting cold-turkey?

My GF has a bit of a PST habit, daily user, uses once per day for last several months, started because of chronic pain that doctors wouldn't take seriously. She is quitting as of this weekend - cold turkey - and I'm not sure exactly what will happen. I have my own stash of stuff - kratom, weed, phenibut, ashwagandha, kava - plus generic naproxen and stuff. I'm assuming kratom would be a good idea, weed for nausea, phenibut or ash as needed for anxiety?
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:32:29 EST ID:m+fJWns7 No.574230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've only tried SN and FTL(E). SN has always worked for me so I don't tend to try others but one time they were out so I went with FTL and it was worth the money. Not as good as SN but also not as expensive.

I've seen a few who swear by FTL though being the best. I just chalk it up to how much each batch varies.
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:42:01 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It depends on how much she takes, exactly how long, and some variance of individual biology. I take 1-lb daily for binges (started 2010) then quit, get clean, relapse, repeat. When I quit this happens:

>Feel fine 1st 2 clean days.
>3rd day: Runny nose, possibly irritable and difficult to sleep. Cravings.
>4th & 5th days: Horrific liquid diarrhea that burns and smells a certain way every 15-90 minutes. Whatever one eats barely gets digested and can be seen in the toilet within 3 hours. If your stomach is empty it still feels like it wants to push stuff out which is slightly painful. Terrible depression and existential sadness. Constantly changing between feeling way too cold and way too hot. Sometimes I vomit. Joint pain where you've never had pain before. Constant smelly sweating that stains white bed sheets yellow. Occasional twitches. Runny nose and involuntary crying. Dilated pupils that make you look like you're on acid. One time after a particularly long binge I had heart rhythm inconsistencies in this stage and could not even drink a small amount of water without vomiting.
>Day 6 & 7: The physical symptoms start to go away but still depressed, not interested in activities and occasional liquid free-shitting.
>Day 8 Onward: It's all mental from here - you crave the high and all the things in life that remind you of the high trigger you hard. Relapse imminent.

Pod and seed tea have a large spectrum of opiates in them that act in more places in one's body & mind than just taking a pill with one opioid in it - so the effects of withdrawal are stronger. And tea lasts 5-10x longer than pills/dope so withdrawals are longer and more drawn-out.

My advice - have loperamide ready. It's like $3 for 100x 2mg lopes at wallmarket. It helps with the constant flow of liquid shit. Having something to help sleep would be nice. And something to occupy one's mind, such as an RPG game, helps.

That feel when I'm 12 days clean, out of physical w/ds, and I just ordered more.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:49:42 EST ID:m+fJWns7 No.574233 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>574229 I have but never without the help of other drugs to ease the withdrawls. For me personally turkey is the easiest because prolonged tapers tend to make me relapse pretty quickly. Weed may help but it may make this worse to in her mental state. For a PST cold turkey I would seriously want some kind of benzos of tramadol actually works great to just ease everything. As for the phenibut I can't speak on it as I've never tried it but I hear the side effects are really nasty so it may make her feel worse.

Depending on where you live you can probably get tramadol and codeine OTC.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:02:02 EST ID:m+fJWns7 No.574234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh one more thing I meant to mention. At first she isn't going to want to eat anything probably at least until the dhirrea kicks in. Pretty obvious info here but don't give her the naproxen until she has eaten cause it's an NSAID (and coming off a PST habbit i dont think naproxen will help in the slightest anyway).

Also don't underestimate what panda said about the lope. Will make her feel 500times better once her bowels loosen.
Lillian Claystone - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:50:25 EST ID:+iKbEg8z No.574235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>It depends on how much she takes, exactly how long

Pic related, I charted it (though it's estimated based on how frequently she bought each bag and the size of the bag)
Lillian Claystone - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:54:41 EST ID:+iKbEg8z No.574236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, she's been through opi withdrawals before, but I'm not sure she knows how much worse this is. She says her worst withdrawals ever were effexor IIRC rather than opis.

> For a PST cold turkey I would seriously want some kind of benzos of tramadol actually works great to just ease everything. As for the phenibut I can't speak on it as I've never tried it but I hear the side effects are really nasty so it may make her feel worse.

Both ashwagandha and phenibut have activity on GABA receptors similar to xanax or other benzos, though ashwagandha has a few other effects and phenibut has a really long half-life (like she has social anxiety and the first few days of school, took one before class and one after class and was good the whole day). I've used phenibut a couple times a week and never experienced any trouble with it, other than it tends to make me cramp more easily the next day (might be in my head though). Ash I used daily for two weeks and didn't have any side effects or w/d.
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:00:03 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Max dose: Less than 1/3 lb.

Her w/ds could be fairly mild, but you never know. She definitely won't be puking and trying to kill herself for days like with ~2 lb w/ds though.
pills !zkraGArAss - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 00:55:39 EST ID:boxjigyU No.574251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hows the SN flow recently?
Last bag I had was 10/3 and was very not good.
Washes were supremely dirty, as in there wqs a fuckton of particulate, and had to filter 3 to 5 times to feel comfortable drinking it.
Hannah Blurrybick - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 02:28:02 EST ID:kJePIbZl No.574255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I love getting things done on opi high but after the dosage gets too high you just nod out.

I miss my opi naive days when trams were enough to calm me.

Trying this low dose naltrexone thing. I've managed to halve my dose in 4 weeks but that could just be placebo.
Molly Clabbernore - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 03:32:45 EST ID:+0xUKj+s No.574259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>managed to halve dose
>could be placebo

That seems pretty unlikely, 50% is a pretty significant reduction. I guess if you're using different batches of seeds then it's possible that it's unrelated.
Charlotte Siblingferk - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:32:28 EST ID:1bFj5VDV No.574263 Ignore Report Quick Reply

first time be gentle
David Nillerford - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:43:48 EST ID:9k9FnYfx No.574266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone have some intel on recent batches from the main two on the river? I have experience but it will be my first time buying them and want to get the best currently available
Thanks opi
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:52:09 EST ID:eZyg8VYF No.574267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
FYI: a full cup of seeds leveled off properly is almost exactly 5 oz. 3 cups as about .5 oz off from a pound.

I had some 10/25/17 sn last night, I'd give them about a 5-6 out of 10. Compared to recent previous bags that were about a 7 out of 10.
breakabond - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 14:40:54 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.574270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thats a huge dose mayn
pills !zkraGArAss - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 14:52:08 EST ID:nSDH1uIt No.574271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sediment does not mean anything good.
As in you dont want to drink the sediment. The SN recently has been having a fuckton of sediment being dirty as hell. You need to filter them.

I believe people should say their tolerances while reviewing cus you might rate it 8/10 but I would rate it a 2/10
Charlotte Siblingferk - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 18:27:00 EST ID:1bFj5VDV No.574281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That was split between myself and my girl, there's still a good bit in the fridge. Amazing day, until I redosed a lil too much and since have been puking like a madman
Esther Mivingman - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 02:45:05 EST ID:UHBHAVIw No.574297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's up with the SN red seed thing? I'm kinda new to this, been using a month or two. My packages have been getting red strips on them since January. Should I consume it? Order coming in a day or two...
Esther Mivingman - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 02:45:05 EST ID:UHBHAVIw No.574298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's up with the SN red seed thing? I'm kinda new to this, been using a month or two. My packages have been getting red strips on them since January. Should I consume it? Order coming in a day or two...
pills !zkraGArAss - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 07:47:36 EST ID:oUy00Oic No.574306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's the nrw design has nothing yo do with the seeds themselves. People are just being paranoid.
Theyre fine.
Cyril Drunkinbury - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:42:52 EST ID:9k9FnYfx No.574359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How do I find out if recent batches from any given place are of quality and worth ordering? Itd be my first time ordering, not consuming.
You seem to possibly know the answer. Thanks
Zozyman - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 01:17:50 EST ID:1PA3w7vi No.574372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Stupid question, if I mix in a huge amount of poppy seeds and make the milk/tea up and after I remove the seeds is there any way to make what I have into a powder, even a small amount? I tried once before but fucked it up either by using too much heat or because I mixed citric acid in when washing the seeds as I head it makes any freebase morphine into salt form.

Any help will be appreciated guys, much love!
Thomas Hamblewuck - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 06:22:44 EST ID:4wEwVoPx No.574380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dont u love answering your own questions
Zozyman - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 06:35:28 EST ID:1PA3w7vi No.574382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I meant would a isopropyl alcohol or water wash be best for evaporating and leading to goo or powder? Also what temp would it have to be at as not to destroy the morphine
Zozyman - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 06:39:53 EST ID:1PA3w7vi No.574383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
P.S I really really really want to snort this shit not smoke or drink. DON'T THINK YOU KNOW I THINK I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:34:42 EST ID:5Oysxrpx No.574384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The only way to estimate quality of seeds is to watch reviews for the seeds expiration and lot # .
But the best way is to just try them yourself.
Shit varies. As ive seen people rate the same exp date a 2/10 and other people rate it 8/10.
Phoebe Snodbanks - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:16:36 EST ID:4wEwVoPx No.574398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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use water for big pst batch
add parrafin wax(coconut oil works ok) to your PST and mix
freeze so the wax collects all the funky pst particulate, fats and oils
remove wax
bonus...for morphine extract (instead of opium): add slaked lime, freeze again, take frozen tea block and cut/melt away all but the top layer
put in oven at lowest with door cracked (some people say you can boil the water away but ive never had good yield w that/my gear)

if you want to snort it you need to get AA on ebay or something and cook m extract into heroin

godspeed m80
Zozyman - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 23:45:54 EST ID:1PA3w7vi No.574419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You telling me this almost dried crumbly brown/black thing I have is not going to be snortabke? t tho
Bombastus is benzed !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 00:01:35 EST ID:hoSinf2c No.574420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This fucking thread. I swear to god.
Phoebe Snodbanks - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 00:17:38 EST ID:4wEwVoPx No.574423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
for one, morphine is like 10-20% active snorted vs like 40-60% oral. it will probably burn worse than shitty meth too. you can try to purify what you have with coconut or parrafin. aa is cheap and will make you product 200% dank
Dr. Mario - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 07:41:09 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.574433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
She NEEDS generic loperamide. One bottle of 96 pills will be enough.

Pop two at the first sign of runny shits brewing up. Try to get it to 2mg every 6 hours or maybe five 2mg pills with two being before bed.

Kratom would help immensely. I pretty much just cold turkeyed off my crazy ass habit (usage all over the place, basically 6oz daily without a single miss and massive doses of 8-16oz 1-2x per week. Lowest I took in a day was 4oz. This has been for a solid 3 months and I used for 3-6 months before that and so on for years now...)

Don't believe that withdrawals will last over 14 days if you're doing less than 1lb of SN daily. It really is 90% based on old school oral morphine withdrawal. Compare to an addiction to a comparable amounts of MSContins eaten whole.
Dr. Mario - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 08:07:17 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.574437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey guys. I will check in in my detail later but basically I got a recent SN bag.

I would rate it 3.5/10 lowest tier SN I've had in a while. Still very active but it feels like 50-70% of the strength I've had less than a month ago.

I had horrible WDs for ~5.5 days to the point where they were probably 80% over. I dosed 6oz to feel well as I normally do 6oz daily.

I felt good obviously but it wasn't a notable high. Which is weird because I should've gotten higher than I've been in 3 months.

Good thing is I ordered 20lbs total so lots of lot numbers and expiration a to compare.

I'm not normally a jump ship guy with SN but I would say my last FTL E batch about a month ago was at least 5/10. It might be the best short term choice idk.
Fanny Sablingham - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:08:07 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.574448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
anyone ever have diarrhea while using PST? i was titrating my dose with shitty PST bags and ive had diarrhea for awhile & i thought i was clogged up

i had some mild bloating and gas that was hard to pass but it went away and i feel normal now. i dont know what to make of it. i also felt like vomitting a few times but i never did fully

also i'm like 56 hours without pst and not really withdrawing at all. was i withdrawing for the last two weeks on these awful bags? i can't tell if i have a bowel obstruction or not. i was thinking of going to the ER because i suspect my insides are clogged but i can't even tell. i was eating a lot of fiber but as far as i know that makes impactions worse for opiate users

the last time i had diarrhea for awhile too i shat a brick out but that hasnt happened now & its been so long there's no way i could shit it out most likely. it's been like 2 weeks
Fucking Bimbleford - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:12:25 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.574450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
morphine is like 24% oral, not 40-60%
James Dredgewill - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 02:44:54 EST ID:lLPY64hC No.574477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
working towards the bottom of my current SN case rn, have a 10/25/17 bag and there's some interesting things going on with this. it's got the same bullshit red seeds that the past dozen bags or so have had. tastes very clean, with a bit of that weird nutty, straw flavor to it. anyway, doing my usual quarter and a smidge pound maintenance doses, I'm noticing a bit of feverishness and dizziness on top of the usual maybe kind of almost buzz that I've been getting while tapering. at my regular dose it's bearable and even resembles a nod at times, but I took a higher dose the other night and honestly felt sick, like I wanted to lay on the floor. could be thebaine, could be stale, could just be my own sleep deprivation messing with me. I'm going on two years of daily use now so it's possible that my egg in a skillet brain is just glitching out, who knows. it's poppy seeds, shits wonky.

my taper continues. I ran into a step back late december janurary when the seed quality dropped and I had to up my dosage just to stay out of wd. now I'm back to my previous level on these weaker seeds, which I hope will mean progress as the seeds improve with the spring and I can taper even more. I'm hoping to be somewhere resembling clean come June or July for a nice road trip. I'll have been tapering for 1 year then but it's worked so far so sue me.

on a side note, I think it's safe to assume my previous assumption was correct; the frankenstein batches of yesteryear were a fluke, and the only things winter can be expected to bring with it are quality drops and seed shortages. hang in there everybody, spring is just around the corner.
Sophie Mebbleback - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 16:14:36 EST ID:26eitY8C No.574508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think I've finally done it guys. I've perfected my PST recipe.

The secret ingredient is menthol. Pure menthol crystals,you can buy em on amazon. Crush up a few mg (not any more than this) and rub it all over your tongue until all you can taste is minty burn. I put a little in the tea too 'cause why not. Then chug the tea, and you wont be able to taste a damn thing. And the aftertaste is even quite pleasant. And no,menthol doesnt taste like dxm syrup whatsoever, those kiddies have never tried the real thing I'm sure. it tastes a bit like mint cough drops without the sugar. And really spicey with the TRPM8 activity.

also use pure citric acid instead of lemon juice. Its cheaper and is a lot easier to work with.
Cedric Geddlefield - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 18:43:30 EST ID:itPI27KG No.574515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd like to keep this low key, but if for whatever reason you can't get seeds shipped to your house, the mart of walls has free shipping to their store. 5lb bags of SN are only $25 so comparable to the river or maybe even a bit cheaper. I tend to get all my seed and DXM needs in one order and pick it all up at once. I just grabbed two 5lb bags so I'll report in with quality when I taste em.

God I've been dosing every other/every two days and that timetable is quite accurate albeit shortened a bit likely because I take smaller doses (in general it seems WDs come on faster and faster for me, but it could just be some placebo). The following day is always fine, but working on the second day off is almost unbearable. I force myself to abstain to at least try to keep dependence at bay. I get hot flashes and chills, sweats, can't stop yawning/always tired but can't sleep, runny nose, and a general sick/nauseous feeling hanging overhead as soon as I wake up. Not sure how you can keep putting up with that terrible cycle, but godspeed.

For the moment I can't kick because I gotta focus on some shit. Once I get free time I guess I'll tough it out and endure a week+ of hell. I quit IV dope years ago, but it only took a few days for physical symptoms to subside. My saving grace is that the psychological draw probably isn't as strong for PST, but I can't avoid the fact that some days, the principal thing that gets me in and out of bed is the knowledge that I have a dose waiting.
pills !zkraGArAss - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 20:22:39 EST ID:0lYYY5oM No.574517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>has anyone received a good bag of SN recently
breakabond - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:50:04 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.574528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Once I get free time I guess I'll tough it out and endure a week+ of hell. I
Try decreasing your dose in small amounts over a couple weeks instead.
Use that excel sheet to keep track of it.
Eugene Nickleridge - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 05:53:27 EST ID:itPI27KG No.574541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ah yeah, maybe that's a better idea. I'm also planning on trying out LDN/ULDN to reverse tolly and potentiate after my break. I still catch nods on 6-8 oz, but they're getting harder and harder to come by. I need a tolly break.
Walter Brittingput - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 08:50:45 EST ID:26eitY8C No.574549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
goddamnit i got a bag monday and it was supposed to last for a few months and now its half gone, and im jittery, been up like 24 hr redosing almost constantly and it feels like everyone is watching me when i leave the house

Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 12:48:54 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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SN 5# Nov. expiration. Lot t10r5337. Received Wednesday from wallmarket.

Wash looked lighter than usual, so I took a pound and a half. I woke up a day and a half later with complete memory loss, a scar across my forehead, a wound on my foot, and dried blood all over the floor.

Taking a 1/3 lb today lol, don't underestimate any batch for any one reason.
Lillian Fanworth - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:57:33 EST ID:UMxO2uwC No.574556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just got a 5 lb'r of SN off the river. 11/9/17, T6R1507

Made about .75 lb about an hour ago. Now sometimes it takes a bit to kick in, but I'm not getting shit. Last bag was 10/31/17, I'd guess it was about 5x as strong. I mean I'm not feeling a goddamn thing to the point I'm wondering if they were washed. I don't think they were, as there was plant matter in the bag and it smelled right.

I had the last of the 10/31 bag this morning, so tomorrow I'll know if there's anything to this batch by whether or not WDs kick in.

It's been a good run, hadn't had a bunk batch in quite a while. Fuck.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 18:17:58 EST ID:2wcnYr6V No.574557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Had about 3.5 - 5 oz of pst and I'm smoking on some chronic after a long day at work. Feels gewd to have n a low tolerence again. Bag is SN 9/11/17. Light in color and seemingly not as bitter(I say seemingly because I can't known for sure) but still
Pretty strong. I would give them a 6 outta 10.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 18:58:32 EST ID:2wcnYr6V No.574558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Small update, feeling exceptionally good and not bad itching like I've got the last couple bags I had seeds from. I change my rating to a 7.5(extra half point for good potency +no itch.)
pills !zkraGArAss - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 00:56:32 EST ID:GIOjyW0C No.574565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Damn why do you have such an old date

The 9/11s were known to be good .the 9/15s I had were flooring meanings im not sure how the fuck I got that high even having a suboxone tolerance/ used to heroin.
And I only drank around 100g if id made a pound like you guys recommended id of been insanley fucking high.
Havent had a bag anywhere close to that since though.

Im not sure if poppy seeds are supposed to be like what I experienced or just the light /withdrawal stopping high ive been experiencing since.
breakabond - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 05:38:52 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.574569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How much morphine does a good bag of SN contain in 1 oz?
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 21:36:58 EST ID:CDlDD6OK No.574585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My bad they were 11/9, not 9/11. Lol still pretty good though. My buddy orders 25 lbs at a time and usually only takes a lb a day. He also skipped a few days. This order is a week or 2 old.
Hedda Fuckingham - Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:22:22 EST ID:itPI27KG No.574600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Reporting back. Don't know if it was WDs or just bad food or both, but I woke up feeling nauseous and bloated like last night's dinner was undigested and ended up vomiting all over my desk while making my brew. Was a real pain in the ass to clean up but at least I felt better afterward.

Anyway onto the goodies: Took somewhat of a risk and grabbed two (instead of usual 1) 5lb bags of SN online from the mart of walls. Both had the spooky red stripe so I was slightly wary. Exp: 11/9/2017 / #T10R1337. 8-9oz eyeballed, mixed half and half with an older bag I had just in case it was bunk. My tolly is currently 6oz maintenance-level dose and 8-9oz for recreational. Always stacked with 60mg DXM and 75-100mg DPH for tolly control and potentiation.

It seems to work well enough. Brew was really muddy with a clinging bitter taste, but not as bitter as other bags I've had. In my experience, how dirty/bitter the wash is doesn't necessarily translate to potency. The come up was slower than usual so I was slightly worried, but sure enough, I felt the familiar cozy warmth combined with a sporadic tingling in my spine and head. WD symptoms disappeared quickly. T+50min later this seems to be a decent mid-tier bag and it's still coming up so I'm not totally sure yet. I suspect it isn't crazy fire ass shit like I've had in the past but it's definitely not bunk. Kind of a relief because the red stripe really did spook me out a bit despite what I've heard on here. It seems rather pointless to make an aesthetic change like that and I'm scared that they have something planned in the future.

But for now, still decent as always. So far I'd give it 6/10. Won't know for sure until I dose exclusively from this new bag. Will update with any significant changes.
Ernest Nicklespear - Sun, 26 Feb 2017 23:03:59 EST ID:itPI27KG No.574619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dropping in for a quick update. Changing the rating to 4-5/10. This bag is definitely weaker than others I've had. Thought the comeup was just slow, but it kinda just plateaued after a couple hours. Nice relaxation feeling, but missing that "high" aspect. Just did a small 4oz redose. Seems to be doing the trick, but it's clear that I need more for the same effect as the shit I was on just last week.
Phyllis Pallyham - Mon, 27 Feb 2017 02:29:59 EST ID:lLPY64hC No.574623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm having a bad time now you guys. I continued dosing with those bags throughout the week and every single time I'd get this weird sickly depression, little fevery, really disphoric and nauseous, almost no energy, made me want to skip school/work and go to bed basically all week.

it was shitty enough to spur me to buy a new 25lb case, which came in the mail Saturday. exp 11/23 that stuff had lots of seed matter which made me hopeful. made a wash and... didn't really feel anything. upped my wash and then I just felt tired. not sick tired, not high tired, but actually pass out exhausted, which is better than feeling sick, but still fucking sucks.

so now I have a bag and a half of stuff that makes me ill, a whole fucking case of stuff that makes me fall asleep, and wd's if I don't decide to take one or the other. my gf was in town to hang out with me for my birthday this weekend and almost half the time I either felt too sick or tired to really enjoy my time. right now I've dosed up almost 3 times as much of the sleepy seeds as my usual dose and I hardly even feel anything still, the only thing that's happened is I'm less tired, leading me to believe that these seeds are just fucking worthless and me feeling tired is just WD offset by placebo. tomorrow I have school and my actual birthday, and I just can't wait to spend it guzzling literal pounds of bunk seeds to just feel okay enough to go out drinking with my friends.

Getting real sick of this SN shit, I get that they're probably on back up supply right now and that quality always drops a little in February, so I don't blame anyone aside from myself. But ordering >100 dollars of seed and finding it bunk on arrival is the fucking worst. About to order some alternatives just to hopefully stabilize myself. I will never in a million years order WGN though.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 01:08:35 EST ID:wQgkYnnr No.574654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well it to friends or on Craigslist.

Sidney Honeyway - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 03:30:00 EST ID:AD4/mZSE No.574657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Australian PST enthusiasts, lend me your ears!

I used to get obliterated on just half of a 240g pot of H_ _ _ _ poppy seeds from the supermarket. Yesterday I bought two 100g sachets of the same brand, washed one with the same technique I always use and got no effect at all. I waited an hour to be safe, then washed the second sachet and got nothing.

Has H_ _ _ _ started washing their seeds? I always inspect the seeds prior to purchase and they looked unwashed, what gives?
abeksR !wjzl7eIsPk - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 07:42:13 EST ID:kv0ZPKPs No.574664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeh , i think they did .
i never got to try em but had mates that used to use that brand and said they were good but they dont even bother anymore ay .

the whole otc opi scene in aus is unforunately dying out .
end of an era ...

where bouts in aus are ya broseph ?
Martha Fallyfuck - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 00:19:41 EST ID:q4UHnr3U No.574690 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Brisfag here. H Seeds have generally been hit or miss for me with only a couple pleasurable times on it, but I am a heroin and u-47700 addict so I'm probably just beyond PST tolerance wise. I used to grab seeds from asian/indian style market shops, they used to be more consistent in potency, sometimes just disappointingly weak or expensive but at least consistently the same.
Cornelius Curryford - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 21:46:52 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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--- BAG REVIEW ---

SN --- 3-lb --- Exp. 11/9 --- Batch: T4R1457 --- From the river.

Washed pretty dark, smelled normal. Taste wasn't as bad as it was a few months ago. I took about 3/4ths of a pound.

7 / 10

3 / 10
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:20:29 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.574879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ive got a bag i decided to roll the dice on coming mid week from WGN. Havent heard much of anything good or bad about them recently and avoided them for a long time in the past because higher price and bad reviews. Nowadays though with the prices of SN and FTL so insanely inflated because they know 100% most of their business is from junkies NOT bakers and they know that since they have a certain "reputation" with the junkies they could jack the price waaaaay up and still do great fucking business shit is so super fucked. Seriously guys back when i first started using PST and buying from FTL and SN the MOST i would pay for absolutely fire seeds was $5/pound and was usually looking for "excellent" quality in the $3-$4 range with $4/pound of excellent quality being the STANDARD price. Now since those days all of the companies with a "rep" amognst us users have jacked the price up to insane amounts a single pound from SN or FTL is now $10 and even buying a 50 bag the price only goes down to about $6/pound and man before id have fucking scoffed and walked away but now im forced to pay since all the "good" companies did the same thing with the prices at about the same time. SO with all that in mind i decided to take a chance on WGN as i havent heard anything about them in quite awhile and the price was right at $25/6 pounds so $4/pound which is what i expect to pay for really good-excellent seeds 7-9/10 but not 9-10/10 which used to be more in the price range of $5-$6/pound in bulk. So i'll provide a review for the WGN brand when they arrive on the 7th or 8th. Hopefully theyre at least good but i honestly dont know what to expect.
pills !zkraGArAss - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 23:22:40 EST ID:c1Jr4/3N No.574885 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What do you mean by mental high? Like euphoria?
cjp - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 01:50:31 EST ID:lpPpzxaU No.574938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
anyone try the turtle's new 2017 batch? Whats the verdict?
WIAKR+Pa - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 04:16:25 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.574946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hi Dr. Mario. It's been a while, but I'm glad to see you. Too bad your attempts haven't worked out too well. I just posted in the BWN, but I figure I may as well post here, too. I'm pretty sure I'll literally never be able to successfully complete my taper. I've all but given up hope. Yay me. How've you been? Can you update me with a very short summary of the last 6-8 months?
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 18:40:24 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.574974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My 6 pound WGN came today. The seeds look good, a mix of lighter blue and darker black which i often like they have a great scent that i often look for and all the seeds have a very dusty look to them which indicates they are really unwashed, they are also a bit sticky but not too much. Seems real promising so far. Made the full six pounds and reducing the amount of liquid i ended up with now. The look of the tea after brewing was very dark and had a very pungent odor which are both good things. SO far its looking really promising guys. Once i get the tea ingested ill provide the rest of the review but so far its looking promising and it may be something people should invest in while theyre cheap. Im in bad w/ds so im in a good place to really give a good review
Jenny Fandlemure - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 21:04:59 EST ID:aA4Q0+ZU No.574977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Benzo and PST synergy question

So I have some clonaz, some loraz and some SN coming tomorrow. I'll be safe, I'm aware 1+1=5 Usually when I do a benz-opi combo I just take the benz an hour before the opi dose and I get a pretty sweet synergistic high.
But PST is different. With a slow comeup and an 8+ hr duration, I'm not sure exactly when to dose with my benz. I'm feeling like maybe I should do a reverse of what I usually do and dose my benz an hour after finishing my PST.

Anyone have any advice for PST + benz combos?
Lydia Hottingfield - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 21:58:12 EST ID:GF+co95P No.574982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is there a prevailing theory explaining the 'dirtiness' of the PST high vis-a-vis codeine and morphine?

Newcastle hbu. I'm not dependent on anything but I have limited mental fortitude when it comes to sobriety and opiates are the best way to sate the desire to be high. I've gone through hundreds of dollars worth of CWE codeine but I can't ever verify that the ibuprofen has been filtered and that makes me too paranoid to enjoy the buzz. I just want to be high on opiates and get on with my life, not worry that every twinge in my stomach is the beginning of fatal intestinal bleeding.

I didn't take anything yesterday and I feel like I'm going to implode if I don't get some poppy seeds this arvo. I tried 'em a few days ago, they're shit compared to the seeds in the 15kg bakers bags but I don't have $80 to spare at the moment. Funny thing about the bakers bags: the cheeky fuckers who are selling them actually advertise their use in PST!

U-47700 put me into a heavy mental fog for the duration of my use, I didn't even realize how slow and simple my thought process had become until I went through withdrawals and could suddenly think clearly. I don't see how your tolerance could preclude PST use; the active is morphine and a prodrug for morphine so you probably just need to take more.
Augustus Bleblingsadge - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 22:08:01 EST ID:GnbZkDlP No.574983 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Oral morphine/codeine are nothing compared to IV heroin or 100 MG+ doses of U-4, sure I could take more but I'd probably have to drink 10 pounds of PST to get a shitty buzz. I think I'm more likely to get poisoned from thebaine or pesticides in the high doses of PST I'd need to take to feel anything, so it's just useless. Even when I was just addicted to snorting oxycodone, when I could take more than 100 MG in a dose, oral morphine became useless. I could eat 800 mg at a time and feel nothing.
Lydia Hottingfield - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 23:51:36 EST ID:GF+co95P No.574992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, that's fair. Why do you take U-4 and not one of the better fentanyl derivatives? The duration of the high is similar and they're much cheaper.
Augustus Bleblingsadge - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 00:11:02 EST ID:GnbZkDlP No.574993 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I had trouble finding a vendor and only heard complaints about fent analogues compared to U4. The main reason I stick with U4 is I have a local supplier, fuck waiting a week or two for postage when I can just go pick some up.
William Nandermeck - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 03:07:28 EST ID:+0xUKj+s No.574999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I can't verify that the ibuprofen has been filtered out.
The solubility data doesn't lie. I didn't trust the method at first either when I was doing it with APAP so I used to take heaps of NAC with it. Just weigh the pills beforehand do the CWE, dry the result and weigh the powder. Yes it's a pain in the arse but you only have to do it once and then you know.
I got my liver enzymes tested and they weren't even slightly elevated after a year or more of doing cold water extractions with generic Panadeine extra that would have amounted to like 20-40grams of paracetamol per dose and IIRC ibuprofen is even less soluble. Just use like <=50ml of water.

Brisfag here, I know sourcing isn't allowed but can you give me a hint as to a good place to find 15kg bakers bags?
Lydia Hottingfield - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 04:22:53 EST ID:GF+co95P No.575002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah man I trust the solubility data absolutely, my problem is that physical filtration probably doesn't catch all the particles. I use a tightly woven material to filter the liquid and I worry that a lot of the paracetamol or ibuprofen is just passing straight through the tiny gaps in the fabric. It also bothers the shit out of me that I can't actually look at the end result and say yeah, that's definitely been filtered adequately. It makes me so angry that some government cunt advocated for killing drug addicts by paracetamol overdose rather than letting them go about their business safely and legally. Utterly heartless.

Googling 'Goodness 15kg poppy seed' will give you the product you seek, I don't think I can mention the brand name of the seeds though. For some reason they're less washed than H_ brand, maybe because H_ brand comes in little bags/jars and the filling process requires more uniform seeds without any pieces of poppy pod.
William Nandermeck - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 04:50:08 EST ID:+0xUKj+s No.575004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I used to use a doubled over shirt followed by coffee filters, did the trick for me. You can get lab filter paper if you want to be really sure. Could even micron filter if you wanted but it seems unnecessary. It sucks that the dyes in many brands seem designed to make it harder to see how well filtration worked.

Thanks, I'll give that a shot. H seeds used to be good, if I had to guess I'd say they were shoplifted too often and so they started washing them
Shitting Fuckingstone - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 06:39:10 EST ID:fRhjzkeW No.575007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My 5lb 12/2018 FTL-e is meh

but maybe its just my tolerance
Shitting Fuckingstone - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 06:49:22 EST ID:fRhjzkeW No.575008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
does anyone else skip the lemon juice part by just using lemonade instead of water? works great for me
Jarvis Blublingwell - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 14:34:35 EST ID:er2YXXZ2 No.575021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
okay so I've managed to make my situation a little more salvageable. I mixed the nasty seeds with the sleepy seeds at about a 2:3 ratio and it more or less does what I want it to, keeps me straight and doesn't make me sick. then I got a bag of THAT AGREEABLE KOOPA in the mail, mixed the shitty mix with that at 1:2 respectively and voila, I can maintain with almost no side effects. I've also been dosing THAT AGREEABLE KOOPA unadulterated and it's really quite nice, but I'm trying to mix so I don't run out so quickly. THAT AGREEABLE KOOPA gets a bad rap here for being so expensive, which I can understand, but given it's track record for me, sometimes it's just the best bet. if I can use it to turn shit seeds usable the price becomes much more reasonable.

I did that when I was starting out. I would make nice big batches of lemonaide and mix up my seeds in a 2 liter coke bottle, making enough at once to last me multiple days. eventually I dropped the sugar because buying it was too tedious and I actually began to prefer the taste of lemon-seed tea on it's own. when I think about how my habit has changed over time it's kind of stark.

>start out mixing seeds into big bottles of lemonade, carefully straining and storing for later use
>now I just do single doses in small water bottles, mixing them in public restrooms and pouring them straight from the bottle into my mouth, usually without even a rubber band holding the cloth to the bottle
Lydia Hottingfield - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:21:09 EST ID:GF+co95P No.575026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I tried 100g of H seeds yesterday, maybe it was an unusually good batch but it produced more than placebo for sure.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 01:21:14 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.575063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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God damn. I accidentally threw away the bag but i think the expiration date was 11/17 might have been 07/18 but i think it was 11/17.

Either way the current batch of WGN is really great. A bit lower on the euphoria, no rushing waves or melting into my bed warmness but that nice dull warm cozy relaxed wrapped in a warm morphine blanket content to the core feeling. I get the more heavy uplifting pit of your stomach "coming up" euphoria feeling from codeine. These feel like theyre low in codeine cause theyre less itchy and came on way more slowly and usually high codeine seeds hit me fast and hard with euphoria but then come down too quick. This batch was 10 pounds and i finished half of about 5 hours ago and got a little nauseous and so sedated i was almost nodding already. No initial codeine euphoria rush though. I only just finished coming up and am feeling soooo nice, seriously these are the "cleanest" seeds i may have had in a long ass time. It feels almost more like i took a bunch of morphine pills only a tiny bit dirtier more full and more complete and less boring. three pounds of this hit me harder than my last batch of tea which was three pounds of FTL mixed with three pounds of SN. Im high as fuck best seeds ive had in a really long time 8-9/10. 3 lbs has me throwing up and nodding and i can easily take 16 mg of buprenorphine.

WGN is good right now stock up while theyre still $4/pound
cjp - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 03:42:12 EST ID:lpPpzxaU No.575070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
H seeds?
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 06:33:41 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.575074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I believe its the first letter of the brand they use if im thinking of the place i think theyre thinking of, from a supermarket i think.
Fanny Pamblelirk - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 14:39:32 EST ID:jgzbFNoW No.575081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Does anyone else have the problem that because playing video games on PST is so awesome, playing video games without it seems much less enjoyable? I'm not addicted, but I'm close to it, and games like WoW or Fallout 4 are at least 2x more fun if I've had a splash of my favorite muddy beverage.

I guess the same goes for life on or off opiates, but I digress.
Samuel Crecklebadge - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 16:18:42 EST ID:66nshbNO No.575084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bags dated 11/23 (currently shipping on amazon and directly), are not only sub-par compared to last month, but these things are flat out washed. Looks like SN got spooked. The 1st wash has that milky look to it that would only occur with a 2nd or 3rd wash, and little to no sediment in the rinsate, and light yellow almost lighter than the added citrus juice. Pounds and pounds and next to nothing.
Ian Bunforth - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 20:17:35 EST ID:1/276my3 No.575091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been buying 3lbs of SN off amazon the last couple weeks and they are stronger than i have had from SN in a while.

>Reviews are all over the place
Ian Bunforth - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 20:19:28 EST ID:1/276my3 No.575092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And these three pounders are both dated 11/23 exp. received them today.

i don't know what to tell you man, Ive been drinking seeds for years and I can tell you these seeds I have are not washed.
Phineas Chonningbadge - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 22:00:28 EST ID:4wEwVoPx No.575094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>I'm not addicted
WIAKR+Pa - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 05:05:29 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.575120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Try to smoke seed latex
>Fail miserably
Sounds about right
Dr. Crane !UnPZ9ycFy2 - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 17:38:47 EST ID:lGqCPKb0 No.575136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
curious does anyone else stomach discomfort from the tea sometimes? I don't me like nausea i mean almost cramp like. i'm experiencing it right now but it rarely ever happens to me at all. I remember I got it bad real time from a batch of FTL(E) but I think it was because I hadn't rinsed what I used to make it thoroughly before making it from the last time. it's not bad right now especially with the waves coming on stronger and stronger just slightly annoying makes me not want to eat right now.
Nathaniel Gozzlewell - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:08:48 EST ID:4wEwVoPx No.575140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
p ez to make smokeable morphine from seeds
WIAKR+Pa - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:41:54 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.575143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Probably, but whenever I've tried it I always manage to fuck it up terribly.

I just want Bombastus to take me in as an apprentice and teach me everything he knows ;_;
Polly Bettingnene - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 22:20:12 EST ID:O0pBm/Iw No.575147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had that problem too, but with weed. I started on just FO3, and then by NV I didn't want to play unless I had weed, and now my tolerance must be out of control because FO4 doesn't seem to be good no matter what drugs I'm on.

More seriously though, that's a sign of addiction for sure. I'm actually the one not addicted to opis high five
Phyllis Dronninghall - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 22:24:50 EST ID:xshs+M8J No.575148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's it. Also the name of a major chain of cinemas.

It could be just a matter of seasonal variation or sourcing them from different places depending on the time of year. Also possible that some of their suppliers wash them and some don't. They're not exactly inactive, but you sure as fuck can't get high on 50g anymore even with no tolerance.
Coconut !hEpdoZ.tHU - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 23:42:39 EST ID:FDUZiOLQ No.575150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Daily kratom drinker here in the states.

Where do you guys get all these poppies?
Does it really taste that bad?
Nathaniel Gozzlewell - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 02:49:27 EST ID:4wEwVoPx No.575151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
do u use paraffin wax and freeze and remove the bottom layers?
Henry Wendlewat - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 03:14:01 EST ID:ljNwNa+Z No.575152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's up /opi/
I got 3 5lb bags in from SN headquarters today, all dated 12/6. Compared to the green label seeds I got back in November, the quality has definitely dipped.

I really think they've been washed. I'm still feeling the tea, but I feel like I did when I would consume just the 2nd and 3rd washes together. I shake my seeds in coke, and the first wash used to make this horribly bitter foamy head that would persist on top, almost like an ice cream float of shit and opiates. Now all I see is a bit of a film, its like im starting with a 2nd wash.

For the record, I coasted from November till now doing about 3/4 cup of seed every other day. My first 3/4th cup of the new batch felt like it just kinda muddled the ambient anxiety of not having PST for a week but didn't really shoo it away. 12 hours later and I just drank another 3/4th cup, I definitely feel like the anxiety is gone and some euphoria is starting to show up, but DAMN those green bags were fkn fire. I hear people saying that quality dips around this time anyways, I really hope it's just that and not SN trying to stop the dead boyfriend reviews on the river.
Phoebe Cubberput - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 07:41:13 EST ID:1SPLw5yw No.575158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
New WGN isn't bad at all. Actually, probably the best feeling seeds I've had in months. Cheaper too.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 20:32:32 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.575175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The WGN i just went through is excellent. 8.5-9/10. Best seeds Ive had in ages much better than my last order of FTL and SN plus the price is way better. Downside is they have a smaller stock and run out often.
Fuck Munnernug - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 01:43:58 EST ID:ljNwNa+Z No.575187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
God dammit, I hear people bag on WGN's quality all the time, so I don't know what to think. Maybe shit really is seasonal and they got the good stuff right now. I might try to order some to mix with these SN seeds.
Matilda Tootgold - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 03:12:32 EST ID:J8Tkht7I No.575189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Those concerned about a perceived quality drop from " river" sourced SN seeds, try the 3 lbs. Bags they have been fire for me the last couple weeks. Dark brown water, sediment, hella bitter, strong high despite my ever increasing tolerance.
, the whole 9 yards.

>in b4 you all buy up my "secret" fire 3 pound bags
Lillian Bluvingchark - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 03:14:03 EST ID:tin3C14u No.575191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
sup guys, i've been dosing anywhere between 300-400g of SN Sept 2017 seeds every other day for a few months at least, i ordered some P. Somn pods earlier that should arrive here before next weekend, could someone recommend me a dose (in grams preferably) that would be equivalent-ish to my seed dosage? Never tried pods before but i wanted to give it a shot
Lillian Bluvingchark - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 03:17:39 EST ID:tin3C14u No.575192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i've got a single bag of WGN June 2017 expiration i've been dipping into instead of my SN bags, i definitely feel these WGN a little bit but it's hardly bitter at all, decent amount of sediment and a dense colored wash though, do you find your WGN to be similar with a mild taste yet still active?
Lillian Bluvingchark - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 03:22:55 EST ID:tin3C14u No.575193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if you have had 8/1 SN how does the WGN compare? im relatively new to seeds that i havent had anything before 8/1 out of the 4 or 5 bags ive been through so far but i'd say (as well as other seed communities) that 8/1 was pretty fucking good at least compared to all my SN bags past 8/10 and beyond. as said before enjoying a june 2017 WGN bag at the moment but my 9/13 and 9/15 SN are a bit lacking compared to those 8/1 bags i had. it's not a tolerance issue either as i switched SN dates/bags around to get a general potency feel. first ever bag I had was FTL and was damn euphoric but i did a wasteful extract on the only bag of it that left with me with unusable product after the fact.
Lillian Bluvingchark - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 03:44:22 EST ID:tin3C14u No.575198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yes i get cramps in my lower stomach for a few hours after dosing, unrelated to constipation as even after i clear out and then dose itll cramp me up. i attribute it to the opiates locking up the muscles tightly as all opiods can do. perhaps sediment composed of organic matter may also contribute, but im simply speculating on both. and the cramps are totally different from the type of nausea i used to get from a simply too large dose
Lillian Bluvingchark - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 04:21:17 EST ID:tin3C14u No.575201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ill post my boring story of how i came to be a PST user if anyone is interested, will try not to wall-of-text it but my constant redosing of amp Friday still has me pretty good even though i havent dosed in about 28 hours :(

Was 19 (20 now, 21 in four months from now) and started getting deep pains that presented in my knees and lower legs first, and then upper legs, upper back, lower back, and in my worst flare-ups about 75% of my entire body, mostly my large joints and sometimes odd myofascial muscle knotting in my back. Went to doctor, got put on a shitty NSAID that gave me pre-ventricular heart contractions, stopped taking it, they gave me a new NSAID but i never even took it as the first one didnt do shit and side effect was scary as fuck especially for an anxious mildly hypochondriac like myself. Went to rheumatologist, bloodwork normal, positive for HLA-B27 gene common in many people with auto-immune disorders, inflammation markers not off the chart but on highest of allowable limit 1-10 and I was 10. discovered kratom during all this and soon after bought oxy 10s from my cancer patient uncle, used the oxys to get high and wasted a lot of my paycheck as soon as fucking possible most of the time, never dependent but at $1/mg id sooner go broke than be at risk for that lol. highest doses were when i was plugging 60mg twice or so a week, ended up into research chemicals that year as well, got a mis-dosed etizolam pellet and crashed my girlfriends (mine as well, shared between us) car into a telephone pole totaling it completely. drug use obviously then came out to my parents and the severity of it became apparent to my oxy hook-up, didnt even entertain the thought of selling to me anymore after. on and off with kratom again but really not happy with the pain relief even at 15 gram doses of potent red veins, discovered seeds, first ever tea had me intensely euphoric but also barfed a ton of times and nodded out not until 24 hours after dosing. second time felt great as well but those are the only two times i really recall any strong direct euphoria like that. started at 90g doses, then 120, 150, 200, 250, and then straight from 250 to 400g but i refuse to go any higher than 400 no matter how weak they are, and i sometimes dose at 300g, most commonly at 350 these days. once in awhile will dose two days in a row but i steadily keep it every other day now. never had withdrawal but since the higher doses of 300 plus i havent gone long enough to find out just how terrible withdrawals are. if it's been just under three days without i feel that familiar pain that started this whole drug seeking start to fade back in. i question whether its withdrawal as obviously at this point i am chemically dependent but i was not dependent on any opiate or opiod including kratom when this pain first pervaded me.. i'm pretty smart and very well researched in things i do including substances but i acknowledge the dose increases were very fucking stupid of me. since i have never had withdrawals from this due to dose schedule i'm unaware of how ANY opiate withdrawal is and i hope i don't fuck myself badly in the future because of it. a side effect of my usage is being more mentally stable with less depressive episodes (i don't think i've had a single episode since continually using PST honestly)

my plan for spring/summer will be to drop 10 grams of seed from every other dose (so every four days will see a total of 20 gram dose reduction) until i'm at 200 grams which i'd feel more comfortable at.
i'd take this for the rest of my life if it were viable, but i fear that taking this for decades on end will deteriorate my body in nasty ways with some of the toxic alkaloids and sheer amount of alkaloids that my body has to process 24/7 with them in me. i have been a part of a private forum where a member did heavy-metal tests on seeds (heavy metal concentrations were a big fear for a long time, but there were none found in the big 3 brands that were tested in late 2016.)

this turned into a wall of fucking text but it's less because of the stims and a bit more due to a barely-grown up kid with a bit of worry and an interest to share with others who may have similar experiences themselves
WIAKR+Pa - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 15:43:57 EST ID:XRqY18TH No.575218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thank you for the heavy metal comment. That actually makes me feel a lot better about the seeds.
nzz !8NBuQ4l6uQ - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 00:23:40 EST ID:JvUiiflM No.575237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Interesting.. People are able to get high on like quarter a kg of seed again? Seems like things have come full circle. Over a decade ago there were some amazing seeds around. 200gs was roughly equialent to 30mgs of turn
nz !!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 00:50:24 EST ID:JvUiiflM No.575238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
my bad. One too many zs
Augustus Dupperstock - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 00:51:32 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.575240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yep. 4 years ago I needed at least 3 pounds (1.5 kg) per dose. My tolerance is higher and a half pound (0.25 kg) can get me wrecked now depending on the batch and brand.
Augustus Dupperstock - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 00:55:57 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.575241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I posted that and realized that I've been doing PST/PPT for 7 years now once July comes around. Wow, time flies when you're flyin' high pizza pie.>>575240
George Brebblefuck - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 02:46:26 EST ID:UqXpbpiB No.575242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How do you drink this shit without gagging/vomiting?
nz !!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 03:25:08 EST ID:tcHMJAj3 No.575244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know the feeling man. It's coming up on ten years I've been shooting and I've been flatting here for two years! Time just whizzes by on opiates. Somehow for the last two years I've managed to score basically every day. At most there's been twos days where I've involuntarily not used. Boggles the mind considering that's at least 90 dollars a day. More since we've been doing speedball every day for a while now
WIAKR+Pa - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:00:50 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.575259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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My 1 year anniversary for starting PST are right around the corner. I know it's nothing compared to 7 or 10 years, but in a way it's also more monumental. Mine is more towards the beginning, but idk. It's an odd feeling. Funniest thing is I can't remember most of the year. I honestly have just like forgotten it all.
Hamilton Gingercocke - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:45:26 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.575260 Ignore Report Quick Reply

its not that bad man. if its causing yuo to gag you're probably making really concentrated amounts. if not you're a pussy ass bitch. this is coming from someone who gags very easily.
William Dullerbere - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:36:06 EST ID:tin3C14u No.575267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah i can't do kratom without projectile vomiting just from taste but even poppy tea sludge is pretty easy to do
JJzz !aPcLWKZmSw - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 17:01:19 EST ID:+gsnuhcq No.575268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Holy fuck WGN 12/15 is STRONG

I usually do 8oz for a mild buzz and I'm having full blown psychedelic pipe dream nods from 4oz double washed

I normally don't do testers when I get a new bag of the same brand (I know, I know) but I'm REALLY glad I dipped my toes with 4oz of this bag because I seriously think I could've been in dangerous territory had I gone for a full 8oz dose right off the bat

I've read on R.eddit that this batch varies in potency depending on the bag size, I ordered from Wally's for the first time and got 10lb in 4, 2.5lb bags instead of one big one or 2 5lb'ers. That could be part of it, some have speculated that the seeds in the smaller bags are fresher or otherwise different from those in the larger packages. This is the first time I've ever had bags smaller than 5lbs so I can't say personally, all I know is this stuff is kicking my ass in a major way

I'd always shrugged off the 19th century writings about the psychedelic dreaminess of opium as sensational romanticism, but now I fully understand what they were talking about. I'm having full blown hallucinated scenarios that play out like a dream, but much more vivid and easier to remember. They're usually mundane in nature, I'll just be plodding along doing something ordinary until I notice one little detail doesn't make sense, and as soon as I start to question it, BOOM I snap back to reality slumped over in my chair with a sore neck and bite marks on my tongue

God damn this batch is strong. BWN yo
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 19:17:48 EST ID:m+fJWns7 No.575277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
SN 11/23/17 5lb way stronger than SN been lately. I chalked it up to tolerance but after trying this oh ho ho that was not the case. this almost feels like the crazy batches we had in Sept./Oct.
Albert Fuddlehall - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 20:33:50 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.575329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I ordered SN 3# from upriver at 1pm today - it'll be here by 9am tomorrow.

Dat $8 next-day Prime shipping - it goes UPS or Fedex so you can have it held at the postal place for free which helps because everyone I live with thinks I'm "clean" and they know what Amazon box deliveries mean.

All of the recent reviews on /arrrr/poppytea have said the latest shit is top-notch, like the poster above me here says >>575277 .

I just picked up over a gram of addy today, too, so it's going to be a wild few days assuming I get this newer stuff.
Edwin Creckleman - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 01:36:33 EST ID:k5OnF854 No.575340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does anyone else have a retarded urge to reach that comfy spot, regardless of whether they become too intoxicated to handle their obligations?

It's raining outside and a perfect opportunity to get /comfy/ with PST but I have shit to do.
Albert Fuddlehall - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 10:47:34 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.575349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I just picked up the bag It's one of the early 11/23 batches - T8R6587, fuck. It came out pretty light - dark enough to block the light from a small flashlight from going through but not crazy and there was zero sediment at the bottom. I guess I'll do a 1.5 lb wash and hope for the best.
Albert Fuddlehall - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:14:28 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.575350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So I made an eyeballed ~1.2 lb wash and this was the result, with the lighting accurately depicting what I see IRL (photo tricks could obviously make it appear lighter/darker).

Pretty lackluster but I'll guzzle it all down over the next hour or two and will report back. I mean, I used to do 3-4 lb washes back in 2011 but we've all gotten so used to newer potency that it just seems crazy to have to use more than a pound.
Jarvis Sivinggold - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:28:31 EST ID:vM9aWUeI No.575357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looking forward to a report.
Albert Fuddlehall - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:57:30 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.575361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I took 1.5 lbs total and have mild sedation - at best - it could just be a placebo or the 3 benadryls I took.

Absolutely bunk, no high at all.
Albert Pittingsack - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 05:59:58 EST ID:tin3C14u No.575377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I am a frequent doser of seed tea, never used pods. pods on the way to me for novelty experience, will pod tea give me a better experience? perhaps higher morph ratio etc
Albert Pittingsack - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 05:59:58 EST ID:tin3C14u No.575378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I am a frequent doser of seed tea, never used pods. pods on the way to me for novelty experience, will pod tea give me a better experience? perhaps higher morph ratio etc
Panda5 on Android - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:09:44 EST ID:fV2ozpup No.575382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pods are generally a better experience - you have to do them right though. I started with pods daily back in 2010 and switched to seeds in 2013 when pods got increasingly more expensive. I'm on my phone right now but I'll post details when I get back home in an hour or two. One quick thing I'll mention is that the itch is much worse.
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:18:01 EST ID:+rEM/tgD No.575385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Okay, here's how to do it right. You'll want 3 bowls: one for parts you'll remove (seeds, stems, knots, and crowns), one for large pod chunks, and one for pod powder. You'll also want some kind of juice, I'd recommend white grapefruit, but don't use soda. All you want is the walls of the pod heads. Go one step at a time with the whole dose you'll use - it's quicker than going through the whole process one pod at a time.

  • (optional) Take antihistamines (to minimize the itch) and / or enzyme inhibitors now.
  • Remove the stems.
  • Using pliers of an adjustable wrench, ply off the knobby bit between the stem and pod, throw away the knobby bit ( I call them knots ), but take any pod wall parts off of it first.
  • Pour out the seeds from the hole where the knobby bit came off - these are good to grow with.
--- [ Now you want to remove the crown. ]
  • Using your fingers, pliers, or scissors, try cracking the pod into halves or thirds. Start your crack from the hole you've made at the bottom and work it up so it finishes through to separating the crown, too, as this makes the crown easier to remove.
  • Place your thumb under each bit of the crown and try to pinch just the crown parts off from the pod walls. If you do pods enough this part will make you bleed fairly often.
--- [ Optional - Removing inner fins and any mold. ]
  • Using a large spoon or your fingers, remove the inner fins from the pod wall bits. I don't think they have opium in them but you might.
  • Also, about 1-in-10 to 1-in-30 pods will have mold on the inside, you will notice right when you open them. Unless there was a fuck ton of wet mold in there I usually just scraped off the moldy parts, wiped off the clean parts, and used them. I never got sick doing this for several years but you can choose to throw them out entirely. The best vendors lance holes into their pods to finish the drying process - minimizing the risk of mold.
--- [ Turn pod walls into fine powder. ]
  • Using your hands, break up the large pod wall pieces into smaller ones (you might use gloves, I cut my fingers many times doing this without them). You could also put them in a container and smash them into smaller bits.
  • Using a blender or coffee grinder, turn the small pod wall bits into a FINE powder. If you still have chunks in here it will increase your chances of puking and minimize absorption.
--- [ Make Pod Slurry & consume. ]
  • Fill a large drinking glass with a small amount of juice (doing this first minimizes clumping at the bottom).
  • Pour in some pod powder and mix it, then add more juice and powder until the glass is full. Keep in mind you want as much powder in as you can get, but too much will be gross, which will make you gag and puke. Mix it very well, ensuring no clumps remain - also pick out any large chunks that float to the top so you don't choke on them (you can chew these).
  • Get a chaser beverage (soda is optimal - Sprite is a good pick).
  • Mix it very well again immediately before each time you drink some, then gulp down a reasonable amount and chase with a few sips of chaser.
  • Wait a minute or two then gulp more down, staying aware of how your stomach and gag reflexes feel, until you have consumed it all.
  • It takes 60-105 minutes to kick in.
--- [ Put on some music and have fun! ]
breakabond - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 04:39:43 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.575414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Whoa. Look at all those poppy pods.
Dude dont throw those away, they can be used for more than decoration.
Fucking Brinningchot - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 10:56:24 EST ID:UMxO2uwC No.575421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's up with the river? WGN isn't just out of stock, they're grayed out and "unavailable"...same goes for SN and FTL. I'm worried, guys.
Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:40:47 EST ID:OIpQoQ2U No.575437 Report Quick Reply
i cant tell if youre being sarcastic or just dumb lol
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:17:55 EST ID:qgUJ6xQy No.575438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Some of my friends here have been wondering how things are going, so here's the twitter version.

Since my December involuntary WD and GAD diagnosis, I had hopped heavy back on the bandwagon. I don't even know why at this point.

I accidently had a 5.5 day WD around maybe early March and it was horrible. I had no benzos no trazadone whatsoever. It was shit. So shit the first maybe 4 days.

Saddest thing is after the 5-6 days I was feeling halfway okay. Like it was absolute hell didn't sleep for 5 days but the change in pace was crazy night and day. I could have quit them that day and never looked back with maybe 2 more weeks of halfway shitty feels, but my shipment was in and the hunt for the rare "nod" was on. I figured in my head after puking my nuts off I must be in store for the best high level I've had in months.

I poured an entire pound. Turns out they were SN that's below average. But still 16oz is/was a rare dose for me.

I got sort of high. Sort of. It was more out of WD sort of like when an IV of fluids goes in when dehydrated. But that was it. For 90mins.

It's been a month maybe since then and being down about shit has led me to binge and do big amounts. Seriously it does nothing extra to help. I feel it for an hour max.

I'm on a week vacation in Florida disguised as a pseudo detox where I only take a cup a day (~5oz I think I usually have a scale).

But yeah this shit ain't working out and hasn't been for over a year. I get zero dopamine release from it. Also after the 21st I have 45 days to nolife school work on Vyvanse, modafinil (alternated daily), and etizolam for GAD they gave me zoloft for that made me puke for 4 hours straight and trazadone that made me look so impaired that I had had 40 beers at 11am.

I love you all and wish you the best. Not sure how often I'll post. For the other PST addicts I've engaged with over the years, I say hello and good luck. You know who you are and the support you've offered.

This shit is a worthless monkey on your back if.you fall to every 1-3 day especially 1-2 day use. Totally worthless.

Instead of the lies and the excuses I'm just going to settle on a cup a day. 4oz wasn't keeping me content. I figure 5-5.5will have to work.

WD from a month of 6-20oz of.good shit daily is so different than 5.33oz. And the euphoria is no better.

Ive said it 50 times but morphine it was a good ride. Sorry I abused you to the point where I couldn't use you casually for years to come without a problem like I have before.

At my grandma's house I found 90 of the 30mg codeine Tyleno. I was drawn a first but i just put them back because I knew I could probably take 600mg codeine and it'd be weaker than 8oz.

My habits so bad that I stopped taking pills not because I'm a good person, but because they don't even work for me. I could spend $50-100 and take 100mg oral oxy IR and feel 2-3/10 for 3 hours

I'm pretty sure you could shoot me up with .3 of street dope and itd not get me euphoria or nod. 5-20oz fire pst hasn't gotten me nodding or pleasantly high in well over a year. I haven't had a rush or noteworthy high since at least 2016. binging 3+ lbs of SN didn't do shit again.

It really is going to be hop off once I don't have school in the way for WDS. I can only hope that dropping to that ~5oz and not fucking it up with 12oz on a Friday , will lead to reduced bioaccumulation and less to WD from with weed benzos and trazadone as neededicated.

>PST is fun and worth it if you respect it. Seriously heed the warning of a smart ass who didn't know better. Take it twice monthlty max or 10 days between doses if it's still twice per month.

This is the only way it works if you want to chip opioids for more than 5 or especially 10 yeara.

Now I'm going to have to settle for vacation booze amphetamines modafinil and some etizolam without just getting hooked again on benzos.

Hamilton Crusslestone - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 00:51:32 EST ID:UMxO2uwC No.575453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My 3lb SN 11/23 is absolute garbage. Totally useless. Barely took the sickness away, not even an inkling of a buzz. Getting a 7lb SN from upriver overnighted, really hoping it's better.
Nicholas Brottingstock - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:28:36 EST ID:1/276my3 No.575476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just got a 11/23 7lb and it is not very good, at all, probably washed.

the fact that SN isn't avaialbe in certain sizes right now scares the fuck out of me
daedrie !pr5VMTw.cM - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 18:48:09 EST ID:PyKIfudR No.575484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just got a 5 lb 12/13 SN in thw mail today. Lots of plant matter, typical significant smell, tea is kind of light but I'm starting with a lighter dose because of the plant matter
Phineas Sublingbanks - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 21:49:28 EST ID:86FbtCXB No.575500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck PST

I hated the nausea you get from it. After the 2nd day in a row of doing it, ever, I went and threw the rest of the poppy seeds away.
Molly Febbletat - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 03:16:18 EST ID:c9HlQxHx No.575504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
no one ever talks to you

Cedric Packlesod - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 06:49:56 EST ID:UMxO2uwC No.575509 Ignore Report Quick Reply

My 7lb 12/13 came in today. Just like you, an insane amount of plant matter. I've never seen anything like this. It's not fire, but it's light years ahead of the 11/23 3lber I mentioned above. I'm pretty sure that batch was washed. This isn't at all. I'd go 7/10.
Shit Pickwell - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:52:18 EST ID:60VFzpCO No.575564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Got seeds from local health food store, 3 8oz packs, the seeds were blue, black, and had bits of plant debris in em so i thought they be good, used one pack as a test dose and the mixture came out white yellow, obviously didn't work, the seeds also smelled spicy too. Ive heard that the color turns white because the seeds soak for to long, which i let happen for a bit but ive also heard it means theyre bunk. What do you guys think?
Nathaniel Brirryfield - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 20:40:01 EST ID:YYRfEKM/ No.575570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ya dude they are washed. Most store bought seeds are.
Clara Duckwell - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:22:31 EST ID:60VFzpCO No.575572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Damn was really hoping that i just let em soak for too long on the test dose and that's why it failed. Might be a dumb question but if tolerance is low like mine is. you think i could feel something off a pound of these seeds? I normally do about half a pound to 3/4 pound with the seeds i get regularly.Ive heard washed seeds are bunk, but ive also heard they're just weaker than normal ones. Its hard to know with PST lol
William Publingtudge - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 00:59:41 EST ID:UvWm596q No.575578 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Now imagine if instead of PST, it was oxycodone, or hydromorphone, or heroin. Not only is it not getting them high, but they're having to spend every single dime they can snatch up on it, every single day, and it does little for them but keep them out of misery for a few hours.

Us PST addicts on the other hand just get our product in bulk on the internet and have it delivered to us from anywhere, it's unbelievably cheap, and our once a day dosing usually keeps us well for a good 24 hours.

It's just strange to me, like PST has exposed a totally different side of addiction, where product is plentiful, damage to our bodies is minimal, and the financial burden is hardly noticeable. It's almost too good to be true, like some secret agency set all of this up to study the effects of opiate addiction if the burdens of supply, biological harm, and legality were removed.

(side note: I hope none of you think I'm downplaying our addictions in any way by comparing it to someone using heroin or other more expensive and illegal drugs, that was not my intended idea to convey)
Simon Drandlekedge - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:19:15 EST ID:BLpslZef No.575597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Guys pls help

my doctor cut off my oxy script and I dont wanna fuck with that boy... please, can someone give me a good source for pods? I used to use them back in the day but I didn't think they could be found any more...

I've tried PST but guess I never got good enough seeds...

Please, someone help me. Please
Thomas Chissleditch - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:24:52 EST ID:XuZlb/9s No.575599 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I'll talk.

Dr. Mario, I've never addressed you before, and I barely post on this site at all.

A little about me:
I've been lurking all of 420chan since '08 or so.
Dabbled with Vicodin a few years ago, never more than a few times a month.
Learned about PST from this site in October of 2015. Once I got my hands on decent seeds I was INSTANTLY hooked. I knew I was fucked right away, but the depression made me not care.

I've followed your post for a while now, and I can relate to a lot of what you're going through. I've had anxiety problems my whole life, and obviously, recently been struggling with the PST demon.

I even live in south-eastern Michigan (I though I read once that you went to school here, maybe UofM?).

No real point to this post, other than to let you know there are people out there who are rooting for you to find peace in this life, and I wish you the best despite us not knowing each other.

Best of luck.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:52:57 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.575637 Ignore Report Quick Reply

They better accept me for my Doc. I'll drop SO MANY better schools already in the bag just to say I'm a wolverine. Why I'm absolutely in love with U and not Tech/State/OSU is personal and goes back 4 generations.

Yeah dude PST doesn't cost shit. Tell it to my wife LOL.

I'm stuck in Ohio for academia. I finally have Ohio plates. Shit sucks and my bumper stickers were too hypocritical looking to keep on. I would have just been asked why do you even live here.

>make $800 a go when needed just takes 6-8hrs driving

In case anybody missed it, https://youtu.be/d9Hvi8w8Zi0

>BWPreppin some tea maybe 8oz, first dose back from vaycay. 3 of us fished for 4 hours and caught nothing but grunts. FFS
Dr. Crane !UnPZ9ycFy2 - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:27:41 EST ID:lGqCPKb0 No.575648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what seeds you using today? I ended up taking a short tolerance break didn't dose at all last weekend then a 1/3rd of my usual dose on Monday. not really cold turkey cause I've had tramadol and some benz to help the withdrawls. ordered some SN from the river with the 2 day free shipping Monday and it wasn't expected to arrive til Friday fuck me. this is the longest I've gone without it in months so it will likely (hopefully) feel much better when I get it as I went from daily use to just 1/3rd of my daily dose once in the last week.

now the shipping says expected it will get here tomorrow instead of friday (fingers crossed). I hope it's a good batch because SN has been really hit or miss recently. if it's another bunk batch I may try WGN for the first time but they are out of stock until the 31st aside from their 2lb bags.
WIAKR+Pa - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 21:48:50 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.575659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
SN seeds from the largest river in South America. It's not pods, but I promise you the seeds WILL work for you. Please don't leave a comment on your order.
WIAKR+Pa - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 21:55:33 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.575660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry for the double post!

Dr. Mario, do you think you could do me a favor, please? Or anyone here, really. I'm still looking to kick my physical dependency on PST. I should hopefully be getting a script for Klonopin in the near future - I was not expecting that at all, but now that it's come up, I'm INCREDIBLY happy!! I figure I ought to switch over to kratom for a bit. My request is if you (or anyone else here) could /please/ do your best to point me in the right direction for a good kratom source. I'm not asking for anyone to provide a source for me directly, but rather just get me as close as they reasonably can, PLEASE! I really, really could use this. It'd help me an incredible amount in life - more than you'd expect. So I'd really, REALLY appreciate it if someone could help me with this issue. Thank you very very much for any assistance!!
WIAKR+Pa - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:23:26 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.575692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yikes, looks like I'm going to end up triple posting. Sorry about that. Anyway, I found the kratom - apparently I just wasn't looking very hard. Nb for triple posting
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:01:53 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.575711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well what did you find? Help us all out lol.

I need to bust my balls and make "that order" before kratom basically dries up forever. A year from now it will only be more expensive. I want to get that proverbial $100 pound or kilo of fire kratom but I'm not willing to dick around and sample. I've ordered 10+ different orders in my life half when I was using 20mg hydroc 1-2×/month max with 3-5months off a year, the others when I used PST 0.5-2x/week.

Basically it's always sucked for me. But I would like bulk of the best out there to help getting off PST for good. PST WD was 3x worse than normal just because I didn't have say etizolam, kratom, and not enough lope.

Even trazadone is better than nothing. I couldn't stand not being able to sleep 5 nights in a row.

Truthfully the 6th day I think I was just coming down from the peak. So I'm not 100% sure I'm convinced PST is really any worse than say an oral morphine XR addiction.

Everyone is different but I went into it with the mindset that I had 2-3 weeks of solid hell in front of me. Sure I dosed up when it finally arrived so I'll never know for sure. But I'd bet money that after a full 7 days that physical WDs are on the downswing.

With kratom and lope I figure after 7-10 days you could walk into work just aciting like it's the flu or a cold and pass off fine. I really wish I had had kratom for that.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:11:46 EST ID:8D/Q3KE2 No.575713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well I thought withdrawls from PST weren't too bad mentioning I had tramadol and some benzos but I guess it just took a while to kick in. Had the worst withdrawls of my life last night that just kicked in so suddenly. The SN arrived today and even though I haven't dosed properly in a week 1.25lbs isn't doing jack shit. I thought maybe the thinning quality everyone seems to have was just our tolerances cause I had a decent 11/23 bag but this bag is just received is hands down with out a doubt the weakest I've ever had. 12/08 is what it is. not even really taking me out of withdrawl so I'll probably be feeling pretty shitty soon.

Guess I'm going to try FTL again or maybe WGN. Hope you guys got a better batch of this if you been buying from SN. Quality seems to be so inconsistent even with same dates.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:12:08 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.575714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's an old SN that's so old the back is worn off so I can't see what dated batch it's from.

I ordered another 5lb off the river today. Pretty excited to compare it on Saturday. Everybody's been saying they all went to shit SN included so we will see.

I wouldn't stray from SN or FTL-E must be E!!! If you're not willing to take a chance on cheaper but bunk shit. I've NEVER had good results with IS and the other ones. I even bought some just to give it a try and the moment it smelled like table pepper I knew I was fucked on $30-40.

Pay attention to my posts about how to save money with SN. People talking shit about their prices aren't paying attention to the coupon codes, bulk no shipping costs, etc. Even with the river you should be using smile.river.com so you can donate ~60 cents to the nonprofit of your choice on the river's dime not yours.

I tend to donate to Dance safe these days. Rotate between that and NRA civil defense fund and my wife's gay horse nonprofit she keeps switching to without telling me.
WIAKR+Pa - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 18:15:10 EST ID:XRqY18TH No.575719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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circlejerk has lots of good vendor suggestions, apparently. I ended up choosing an 'ethnobotanical' shop whose first half of its name is the same as a site which the future hated a very long time ago. If this post poses an issue, please let me know, and I'll delete it - but I feel like it should be fine. It's got a temporary sale for $89USD kilos, as well as a 'welcome5' coupon for 5% off. (Dr. Mario - I haven't ever seen any SN coupon codes posted yet, but please do keep posting them!)

There was another site that apparently had $63USD kilos, but I don't remember its name, and the link is on my computer at home. However, I feel like the website would have a lot more traffic if it had quality products at that price, leading me to think it's probably low quality, though I don't actually have any evidence for this lol.

Anyway, it can't ship quickly enough! I've never tried kratom, so I'm extremely excited. Not to mention this could be a game-changer for me and literally fix nearly every issue in my life at the moment. If I can have an opioid which is 1. easier to hide from snooping family members and 2. doesn't show up on drug tests, I'll be able to continue my use, have access to a car or even get one of my own, get a job, have almost infinitely more freedom, and basically not hate my life every single day lmao. I'm seriously in the absolute best mood I've experienced in years!!

PS Dr. Mario, you should get into contact with me in some manner which leaves all the rules unbroken lol. Are you on IRC a lot? What about Bombastus? :3 And maaaybe BigD (I heard he quit or something - I'm not sure. But I'd love to hear from him!)?
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:06:21 EST ID:TIEC4Hy6 No.575723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I ordered some seeds direct from WGN; should be here by the 27, so I'll report back here whenever they arrive. From what JJzz stated >575268, I have higher hopes for WGN than SN. Speaking of which, WGN used to be REALLY good a little over 2&½yrs ago; the last time I really tried them, I changed to SN only since then as they went down in quality then and SN has stayed pretty much the same until now.

Overall, to me, the 11/23/17 SN were strong but had a very short half-life, seemingly.
Sidney Fanforth - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:10:07 EST ID:bGSaPY/q No.575724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Would it be worth making these lil pods into tea, (I have several) or should I wait until they flower and mature
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:22:25 EST ID:+rEM/tgD No.575726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Those are buds, not pods. The pods don't start growing large until after the flower petals fall.
Nathaniel Hingerville - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 10:28:57 EST ID:tin3C14u No.575762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i've got a fat bag of pods in front of me that i'm about to de-seed. did some digging for recipes and this is what i have in mind

bring water to a boil
take off heat
add lemon juice
stir in pod powder
let cool
drink, without straining pod material

i can handle ingesting the pods but will it give me a phytobezoar like seeds can?
Hunter S. Nodson - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 12:15:12 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.575765 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Gaia? I mean it's legal man. People source for poppies all the time here just don't post links and all that shit. Nobody is going to freak out over a kratom vendor imo.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 12:21:38 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.575766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
make sure to put the pods through a blender first until theyre ground into dust it pulls more alkaloids out into the water more efficiently that way and will make them easier to pass. also if you have time after you blend them to dust pour the dust into 2x the volume of water and freeze until solid as this helps break down the cell walls releasing more alkaloids and softens up the fibers again making it easier to pass. as for avoiding a mass its pretty similar to avoiding constipation so stay hydrated, drink fruit juices, dont eat any big meals for the day before, on, or after you ingest them just light snacks like fruit and such, avoid dairy, id take some stool softeners to help release more fluid into your colon, and if all else fails and the day after you think there is a mass thats stuck or moving too slow first vomit to remove any fiber left in your stomach then start pounding prune juice. Prune juice is my go to for things like this ive read pepsi or coke can also help but id personally mix my pod tea 50/50 with coke anyways so idk but prune juice does for sure help break it up and flush it through.
Nathaniel Hingerville - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 14:32:56 EST ID:tin3C14u No.575773 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i made a tea with 20g of pod and it was pretty nasty and didn't really do too much
my seed dose is 300g

Jarvis Senkindeck - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 14:42:30 EST ID:gfgY24FA No.575774 Ignore Report Quick Reply

spoken like a man who's never banged a chubby black chick
not only can they suck dick like superhumans, breakfast is guaranteed to be 10/10
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 16:22:06 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.575776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That doesnt seem right... I cant recall for sure cause its been awhile since i had any pods myself but i think the average weight of a medium-large size pod is between 2 and 4 grams per pod 5 for really large and as low as 1 for smaller pods, i might be off though i just have a memory of weighing some dried giganteum pods a couple years back and feel like most pods were 3-4.5. How many pods did you use? As i said its been awhile since i had pods and i had a decently high tolerance at the time but i still usually only needed 12-16 grams on a multi pound seed habit and 20 was a pretty heavy dose for me. For my friends that had a low tolerance like yours id only share with them up to 9 grams and less if they had a small or inconsistent tolerance and that was almost always enough to catch a nod. Are you sure the pods are P. Somni? If so sounds like they must be old or decayed or something but properly stored pods should be good for ages. i have had some pods that were absurdly weak to the point of ineffectiveness but still with a tolerance of only 300 g of seeds i would have thought that 20 g of any halfway decent pods would have had you sick as hell. Could have been from a super low morphine/codeine variety i guess,those do exist but most pods sold are giganteum or tasmanian which are both pretty similar varieties already and have a pretty similar alkaloid content only really changing in size of pod.
WIAKR+Pa - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 17:30:39 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.575778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Haha yep, that's it. Okay, well that's good to know!
LaDiDotty - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 00:50:07 EST ID:JWvGP0dt No.575784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey guys,

Haven't posted in a lil while. My last SN ordeRs have been very lackluster so I decided to try FTL. Last month my FTL was amazing, FWIW I have a moderate to high tolly & my typical dose is approx 2-2.5 cups of seed which I was told is a pound give or take a little. Normally this dose was plenty for a day but SN has been so bad I found myself dosing more often. That's when I decided to try FTL. Because I wasn't sure FTL was going to be any better at first I was mixing SN & FTL equal parts. Then I ran out of SN & was left w/only FTL, thiats when I realized this batch was really great.
So this month I reordered both SN & FTL mixing equal parts again. The SN is probably as crappy as it's been, the FTL is not as great as it was last time. I'm just about out of SN & because I need to reorder I'll probably go w/2brands again. I just am not sure which 2 to go with & if I should try WGN.
Last month I think the dates of my SN bags were 11/20 something/2017 & FTL was Dec 2017or Jan 2018. Sorry I should've wrote the exp dates down but had too much going on. This last time I ordered, current bags, I got 11/9/2017 exp date from SN, not sure why I got an exp date before the date of my last order, I always order direct but they could've sent from other locations. My current FTL bags are Feb 2017.
I'd rate my current bags: SN 5/6 out of 10, FTL 7out of 10. When I get a good dose of opiate from whatever I have more energy & feel like smoking cigarettes. I would never smoke cigarettes w/o opiates, have no desire at all but when I've gotten a good dose. My last order of seeds from both places have not even made me feel good enough to want to smoke except for a small number of times. I also noticed that no matter how much I dose it only lasts for 4-6hrs before I start feeling the very beginning WD symptoms coming on. Normally I do 2 washes on my seeds but I swear the 2nd washes from this last order, both brands, are super light & don't offer too much.
I hope this is of some help to whomever likes to partake in PST.

I tried reading thru everyone's comments but it's hard to gauge people's perception of strong or bogus w/o knowing their normal tolly & how much PS they use daily.

Any info on current brands would be greatly appreciated as it's time to reorder. I think I've stuck w/SN because they were so so,I'd for so long & they have outstanding customer service. Trying FTL was based on a few comments a couple months ago & it was great, like I said, about 4-6 weeks ago. Not sure if I should try WGN instead of one of the 2 I've been getting. I'd prefer to not waste $$, any info is greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much, hope everyone is doing well.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 03:27:47 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.575789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i have a pretty decent tolerance not huge any more but still up there, by which i mean i need to do 2-3 pounds minimum if i want to catch any nods. My last order was with WGN because theyre way cheaper than FTL or SN both of which have been sub-par lately imo and for what they charge they should never be sub-par. Well i made a 3 pound batch of tea and half-way through it i actually started nodding out hard and throwing up and no exaggeration here but i can not even remember the last time a batch of any pst has had my that high let alone made me throw up. The last time i ordered SN and FTL i needed 3-4 pounds of either to get some light nods. Id try WGN worst case and you dont like them at least they were cheap right?
Matilda Clellerman - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 04:31:36 EST ID:8OPEGRva No.575790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
should i go on over to sprouts?
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 11:40:44 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.575791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Public Service Announcement

5lb via 2 day river ordered Thursday arrived today (Saturday)

Exp. 12/13/2017
Shipped from center in Kentucky

My SN looks WEAK as FUCK.

>more plant matter than normal, sweet
>open it up. No pepper smell, check. Surprisingly less nutty smell than normal...
>appearance about normal maybe less white residue hard to tell

>brew first wash: LOOKS like a second or third wash!

>taste: not bitter in the slightest! FUCK!!!!!!

>Rating given: 1-2/10 for the SN scale. WORST I've ever had from them EVEN over several years.

These new batches are garbage you guys. I was comparing it to some older seed, the ones that started getting red seeds at the top and being around 4/10 quality.

These are probably a 1, maybe a 2/10 for WDs we will see.

>it's that sneaky peanut looking fucker they added on the bag(s). He's now forever the scapegoat. We shall call him the "nod snatcher"

Pic related, the nod snatcher being a big fuck face all up in my bag. Fuck you you smirking little shit eater.
Matilda Clellersire - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 18:54:25 EST ID:4wEwVoPx No.575797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
LOL those cunts lmao nb
Frederick Buzzville - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 12:57:47 EST ID:UMxO2uwC No.575828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So, I'm going the Wally world route this time, but I have question about shipping. Their prices are incredible, which is nice. I chose the pick up at store option, they say it'll be ready on Wed by 6. My question is, if you choose home delivery, what courier do they use? 6 is a bit late since it means I'd have to go through my work day with nothing. When getting them shipped at home, what do they use? USPS? FedEX? UPS?

Thanks for any info.
Ernest Sengerwill - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:03:54 EST ID:rQIzE3Tp No.575837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Now would be a good time to give up tobacco products all that harmine from tobakk mixing with these new bags which are full of grey seeds they are insanely sedating but they fuck with your blood pressure pretty bad sn 5's
LaDiDotty - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 22:28:11 EST ID:JWvGP0dt No.575845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So any thoughts right now on WGN? I'm going to order 2 brands again. Normally it would be SN & FTL but now I'm wondering if I should do FTL& WGN. Any info greatly appreciated.

@Mario......Did I say something I shouldn't have in my last post? Just curious what the warning means. My apologies if I did, wasn't aware I said anything different from anyone else.

Thanks guys.
LaDiDotty - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 22:36:21 EST ID:JWvGP0dt No.575847 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I forgot to say in my last post that while I've been getting the red topped bags from SN I've not yet gotten the newest ones w/the peanut guy on the front. Geeze! What ever are they doing to their once wonderful seeds??!!
Lydia Tillingbanks - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 05:48:17 EST ID:OIpQoQ2U No.575860 Report Quick Reply
WGN's shipping makes it a bit more difficult to order smaller amounts, you gotta get like 5lb minimum preferably more to make their shipping costs worth it. Also I haven't dabbled with seeds in a while, had some SN months ago that was pretty meh until I found a dose that didn't feel like anything and then would just fuck my shit up with nods. Got a pound of WGN a few weeks ago and a half lb got me a little noddy but lasted a long time and was more euphoric than the SN I had previous to it.

I used to get fire seeds years ago before PST got big, euphoric warm buzzy glowing feeling in the extremities like within 10 minutes type of fire. Haven't seen that kinda stuff in a long time. The WGN I have is not nearly as euphoric but notably better than SN has been lately, and it lasted a nice amount of time. Woke up still fuzzy in the morning. ~16hrs?

The SN bag change would have been infinitely more funny if it were a monkey instead of a peanut (monkey on your back).
Ernest Sengerwill - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 09:31:53 EST ID:rQIzE3Tp No.575868 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just did 82g 3oz side by side of pnut guy vs no pnut guy in 350ml hot and then 100ml cold

bitterness is down 60+%
color nearly the same
tolerance will adjust guys dont increase your dosages and all will be fine in 8-13 days

all this talk about 1/10 in nonsense.

yall be shakin up colas and shit drinking oxygenated pat fixing to walk around with a shitbag when yalls guts bust

if you arent taking potassium magnesium salt and iodine weekly and have never done a succecsful salt water flush or oxygen powder foush in your lives you have some nerve using this stuff more then 14x a year.
Fuck Nettingdadge - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 10:43:21 EST ID:C5/raxZL No.575869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey guys, what do you reckon I should do with the rest of my dried poppy pods?
I've got about 230g of them, and I would like to AVOID making tea.
The vendor I got from refused to acknowledge the variety but seeing as some of them are a tiny bit smaller than a tennis ball I think they are Giganteums. I made a tea with 20g, strained every single thing out which included poppy straw and this weird brown paste, and the resulting water gave me nothing at all, as I had some WD shits later that night. As of today I made myself a tea with 280g of 12/6 SN seeds and it's definitely active despite lots of bad reviews on this date.

TL;DR. 230g of dry poppy pods, besides tea, what do? ISO xtraction?
Fuck Nettingdadge - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 10:48:45 EST ID:C5/raxZL No.575870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
also, anyone else take potency drops in stride? I just take the same dose as always and wait for tolerance to equalize, next time a fire bag comes thru i'll really feel it ;)
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:10:41 EST ID:JafHF3Ou No.575877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>the nod snatcher
fucking lost my shit, good one

I wouldn't say in stride. a little hard to do when you feel like shit. I do 'try' to not adjust to higher doses but rather let tolerance adjust.

I've never experienced a change in quality as the one we are now though. do you guys think suppliers are catching heat or something? the big 3 have been having supply issues for a couple weeks now.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 23:37:31 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.575889 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Update on my 12/13 SN Bag

>Indeed worst SN bag I've ever gotten EVEN and I've used them for well over 2.5 years.

>not inactive but indeed way weaker. This batch is approximately 25% of the strength of the ~4.5/10 batches we were having about two months ago with the added red seeds that floated to the top.

>12oz seems to have the effects of roughly 3oz of the 4.5/10 bags, yet more nausea and less pure alkaloid profile.

>adjusted rating is 2-2.5/10. Still 1/4 the strength of 5/10.
William Trotshaw - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:34:04 EST ID:rQIzE3Tp No.575901 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Fair enough review I would say both sides of the aisle. us and the review boards could live with this in harmony as tough as its gonna be for our side. We ahould atleast see a proce redux in return. though as soon as we saw the change from green to red tops we should have known right then and there that it was time to get on board or jump ship.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 17:08:08 EST ID:JafHF3Ou No.575914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
agreed. mine doesn't have nod snatcher on it but same date. worst bag ever. more nausea than usual and much much weaker. I'll be ordering WGN or FTL-E in a bit.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 19:01:37 EST ID:JafHF3Ou No.575926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well fuck I ended up getting another SN because nothing else is in Stock and it at least keeps me out of WD. as Dr. Mario said they aren't inactive just weak. going to try FTL-E or WGN early before this runs out. I have always heard WGN is shit quality and thus why it is cheaper than others but I've seen a few post lately claiming them to be insanely potent. at least these SN keep me out of WD and allow me to get easy sleep. will have to stick it through tomorrow with nothing but I should be okay cause I never really notice WD until 48hours after last dose.

Hit the nail on the head. When I first got the red seals I still got some pretty fire batches but I should've listened to everyone saying they were getting shit batches and prepared accordingly then. definitely by the time I noticed the batches consistently dwindling in quality.
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 20:45:40 EST ID:36U6F+zW No.575930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well, of course ymmv but WGN is pretty decent; almost on par to SN before the drop, though I'd say it's just a tad less but my appeal from the seed-quality difference has yet to be aclimated.

Sorry, as my plans were to comment on the WGN quality whence, immediately after receiving it, and I messed up wanting to get somewhere and accidentally, though justly as well as stupidly, nodded the fuck out on two pounds until a few hours ago and just now woke up after a couple hours of real sleep; unlike sleeping on your feet (Morphine, thou art a heartless prankster), so I could at least compose a comprehensive message coherently.

>Like I said, ymmv but WGN (Exp. 12/17) direct from site, for me, is spot on and at the very least, in all likelihood, will be a little better than SN @ this time; WGN, for me, was quite close to what I would call FIRE; at least SN before thoes bastard red strips, though all weren't bad; prior to mid-late Febuary, Exp. 11/9/17.

Sorry, hi rambles.. These seeds are the shit.
Though, like I said >>575723 before, WGN used to be quite high quality in the past, even stronger than any SN for the past two years. Hopefully they stay this way; I haven't tried WGN in over two & a half years, though, so I wouldn't know their current track record.
Martha Dozzleson - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 02:23:20 EST ID:rQIzE3Tp No.575936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
same guy, update out of 4 sn bags i got only 1 of them had excessive plant matter its tight cuz the ones with less matter has far more seeds than just grey ones and about 5-7.5% additional potency glad i checked.

crap shoot good luck men and women

also all of you csn get potsssium and magnesium for 7 bucks a pound....yrs the orally bioavailable kinds...

bulkfoods.com oddly enough i found the site by looking for poppy seeds lmao

pst rly drains yoir electrolytes so try the following.

50mg magneaium
400mg potassium
200mg pink himilayan salt
12g sugar/1 tbsp
80mg calcium
500ml water

will greatly reduce your chances of kidney failure intestinal rupture and seizure.
Shit Billingwill - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 03:53:05 EST ID:oJKF3Hy8 No.575938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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SN 12/26 from HQ, T8R1867
no scale, used 2 cups of seed. 2nd wash is in clear cup. I still have it saved. high enough I got a nod and threw up from cigs. love you all /opi/
Shit Billingwill - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 03:55:01 EST ID:oJKF3Hy8 No.575939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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fuck that jabroni. still got my nod
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 10:48:02 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.575949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah if it ever becomes available. Usually I spend $54-120 per order but I can't risk bulk discount when it's likely shit product.

I too am thinking one say 5lb of wgn and possibly a 4lbit FTL E

I figure give SN some time to get their shit together.

I can't believe I had several hundred lbs of some 8/10 FIRE brews back when I ODed from Frankenstein brews. I fucking sold them all for $30-40/5lb when I got them for like $23 each minus 10% discount.

Wasn't worth it. My BMs are looking halfway regular for once so I know I'm coming down. And that's jumping from 6oz of 4.5/10 to 12oz of 2.25/10.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 11:33:07 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.575954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hey sorry I skipped your message a while ago.

Last 6-8 months were a rollercoaster. I detoxed after my wedding (heavy PST and etizolam use especially etizolam but also obviously stimulant party drugs). Then I got an incomplete on my last semester due to GAD. Picked up PST again eventually but overall less high of doses like 5.33-8oz once a week 10-12oz. WD again some time in early March for 5.5 days shit was horrible I had no comfort drugs.

At this point wife and I don't even argue anymore she just wants me to graduate and be free from academia for good. She told me she is willing to sub piss tests for me to get me on my feet but that eventually I need to be able to piss for myself. So I'm ordering that $88 kilo of kratom while it's still available and eventually indeed on making the transition. But I was expecting to be able to stay on morphine maintenance until like May 15th.

Shit is the same as always yet different. Went on vacation in Florida for a week and drink like 10 drinks a day it was stupid nuts. But I don't drink at home anymore nondrinking fixed my blood tests.

I just want to get to a point somewhat similar to Aciddrop without the cigs or street stims (no offense buddy), daily kratom capsules, maybe a benz script instead of gabapentins, and smoking a half bowl of medical dank every 2 weeks or so.

I want to get to the point where I choose not to take drugs, not where I don't do them because they're locked up. I want to experience tolerance loss for the first time in years. Yes I know kratom still affects tolerance but PST is so bad in comparison.

How have you been?

Kratom seems the only way to quit with a high chance of success besides subs which are just about as bad as PST IMO.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 11:48:00 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.575955 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nah you're fine buddy. Despite what you might think I have NEVER attacked you as a person, just rarely your content.

It was a warning I got a shit bag, since that's what you wanted to know about anyways.

Hope you are doing OK
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 19:19:25 EST ID:4BPuIRQo No.575980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I agree, just got some WGN in today, took a cup(5oz)with a very slight kratom cross tolerence (15g meang da daily) and I am feeling fucking good my friends. Also smoked the last lil bit of ice (which I assure you Dr. M, is very pure, uncut crystal meth shards)i had but I can feel the seeds for sure. Haven't had any in a few week's, much better than the last couple orders of SN my roomate got according to him. He said (1 lb) 3 cups felt stronger than 6cups of recent Sn he had.

on a more personal note Dr M glad to hear you are doing alright. Don't worry bout the meth thing. I only go on small binges every once in awhile. Last time before this was about 6 months ago. There's no way I could use the shit daily. much more noticeable physical immediate harm. I ordered a kilo of red meang da from the place I listed and haven't looked back. It's taken me like 2 weeks to get through half the bag. It's very affordable and 15 g gives me a nice buzz that's energetic at first then mellows out nicely. I hope you have as good of luck as I did switching over. I'm not sure if you know his but I moved back to Ohio and am living with a friend at the moment while I get my shit together. Well he's a pst addict as well and I kind of got hooked with his inadvertent help. a tiny bit again when I move back. I was doing small doses, usually 2.5 oz or less but I was still getting wd so I ordered the kratom and it's been amazing. Today's the first day I've had seeds in weeks. I had a job but I got fired from it because it was a "healthcare facility"(nursing home) and I have a 5 year old drug trafficking charge thats expunged. Fucking cunts.i mean really, it's one expunged charge but because it's a healthcare facility they can use it against me. Fucked up. But I just got an offer fora job I think I'll like better for slightly more money so it's all good and I got some fake piss for drug tests. Other wise I've just been chilling with my roommate smoking herb, ciggys, and popping a mashup of the big 3 benzos, Val's, xans and pins.and taking gabapentin which is not only a good high but is also very helpful with wd. I highly recommend you get a script if possible. Its the only thing I could find that would gets rid of the cold sweats. I managed to get one at my last psych appointment, albeit a very weak one, 200 mg a day. I buy 300 mg pills for 3 for a buck on the street lol. Well I guess that's it for now. Hit me back up. Fuck it. Dobbsgt26atgmail doc. Later man.

>Pic related, my "Street amphetamines" Dr. Mario is too good for. That's a half gram crystal.

Idk how I can find such high quality crystal yet cannot find h and have never been able too. Just pills and neither morphones either, only the fucking codones and subutex mostly, I've tried surprisingly few opiates. Even though I like them a lot.
Priscilla Feshbanks - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 22:04:45 EST ID:IZSFrvIG No.575990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had to do sprouts last night as a last resort. I don't think they were washed, but they definitely weren't the fire I was hoping for. Took the sickness away, though, which is all I can ask for.
Basil Gockleshaw - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:12:18 EST ID:/ogWiGGU No.576016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's all this about kidney damage? Care to elaborate?
WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!JnjjGAmf - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:46:45 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.576019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's cool! Thanks for getting back to me, though. Damn, that actually sounds incredibly rough. I'm sorry to hear all of that happened to you. I've tried to ct PST a couple times now, but I've literally never made it more than 2 1/2 days lol. It's pathetic, really. But at this point I've resigned myself to trying to taper down a lot so that I can still get high in the future by taking larger doses. Dunno if I'll ever be able to stop entirely, though. And kratom makes me so fucking nauseous, even in capsules. So I don't think I'll be ordering any more of it. It's just not my thing, apparently. Though if I do get my klonopin script, that may be a different story. Speaking of that, I saw Bombastus talking about triazolam as being especially euphoric or something? I know this isn't /benz/, but do you have any recommendations? Because I can probably get most any benzo, so I figure I may as well try for the best kind lol. Overall, I've been much better. But I'm at least not at my lowest anymore lol. I'm considering picking up some heroin or dillies to IV because PST is just not euphoric AT ALL for me anymore, and it really fucking sucks. It's just a maintenance dose, but I want to get back to a nod, and feel that comfy tired feeling in my thighs again. Fuck, just talking about it makes me want it more. How much IV heroin/hydromorphone/anything do you think I should try? I know I can just look it up on some online conversion chart, but I prefer getting personal recommendations. I take ~5oz of PST, maybe. Give or take haha. Also! You didn't ever give me a way of contacting you! So, if you wouldn't mind, would you go through Aciddrop, please?

I've got two 5lb bags of SN coming in. They should land sometime tomorrow, I think, though maaaybe today, if I'm especially lucky. Probably not, though. I've got a feeling I'll end up meeting the nod snatcher lol. I really hope these don't end up being bunk, though. Fuck me, I wanna go back to the fire seeds we had in September/October. Holy shit, I took the same dose of seeds that I'd been taking for half a year, but I ended up nodding out hardcore, and for days. It reminded me of when I was first starting out. One time, I legitimately took a dose one day and nodded the whole time. Then, THE NEXT DAY I started nodding while eating. It was incredible. God, to reset my tolerance... If only it was actually easy to do. Do you think I ought to try FTL or WGN? I've only tried SN, and some other weird bulk thing before I knew about SN lol. I'm just wondering if it'd really make a difference. I think I might, next time, but only if these seeds are especially shitty. So we'll see, I guess!

I just want to go back to feeling like pic related lol. I'm not giving up!
Martha Hembleleck - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 08:18:59 EST ID:4wEwVoPx No.576024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
other than nods and that shitty dope grin, subs are good, very responsible opiate. im so glad to be on them instead of tea and dope. not saying that cuz lying to myself, just the novelty of drooling on myself wore off. only thing i really miss is being the life of the party morphine bravado. otherwise i get all the other benefits of being opiated, can sleep much as i want or be nonstop active. mind and body feel much cleaner and clearer. not to mention my dick works again. really think they could help you where youre at dr m. until i can afford $100/day of dope, tea feels like a waste of time. can always kick em w pst+kratom+lope

and +1 electrolyte comment
WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!JnjjGAmf - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 08:23:55 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.576025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Have you ever tried methadone? If so, how does it compare to subs for you, personally?
Martha Hembleleck - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:19:46 EST ID:4wEwVoPx No.576027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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never been on mmt, however dosed for few weeks and few doses of 100, 200mg. methadone pretty much checks all the same boxes as heroin. id imagine, like pst maintenance, theres always a hedonistic edge like you could always feel better/higher/doper. bupe doesnt have that, you can take more but you dont reach sweet mental oblivion, you just feel more physically opiated. so bupe doesnt really get your rocks off in that way. it does get you feeling high and a somewhat cushy opiate cloud to deal with life. i like 8-10mg/day, good mix of drugged up and sober feelings. guess i have maybe 40% of the emotion i would sober (vs 5-10% i would on morphine). my dick works on call and can last long as i want. if i take more than 10mg im more dissociated from feelings, so i wouldnt have nearly as much sex/empathy. higher doses you can feel drugged out all day if you want.

sorry for rambling, its late/early and bupe isnt as beautifully poetic as full agonists. its like 80% physical opiate effect, 30-40% mental effect. one reason people say theyre clean on bupe because you dont spend your free time thinking about nodding/being higher etc. your thoughts are as sober as they could be, considering youre taking a powerful long lasting opiate... i would take methadone if I wanted to be totally opiated all day. if i had a badass life as a heroin addict and took bupe, i wouldnt really be the same person but if i took methadone i would be much more like my dope self...if that makes sense. i take opiates because they make me better, more responsible, efficient, likable, etc. if i was sober id feel like i would be wasting my time because if i was on any opiates, would be doing so much more. bupe satisfies that for me as much as pst/h/hm.
Martha Hembleleck - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:26:09 EST ID:4wEwVoPx No.576028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ps the game Divinity Origin of Sin is a 10/10 splitscreen rpg. the writing/pacing/storyline is TOP notch. First offline game ive played in years, and probably the first game other than MGS i have listened to all the voice acting.

have a rare fuhrer, a big fan of methadone
Paincreas - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:51:42 EST ID:lTDyxNOO No.576030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So I just ordered my first 5lb from SN, what should I expect with what's been going around lately
Panda5 - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 13:21:21 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.576036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That feel when youve been clean for over 2 months because of bad batches then you switch brands and get this! It's that dark evem though I used way too much water.

Im drinking it now and I'll report back with any applicable deats.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:24:11 EST ID:4BPuIRQo No.576043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cancel now and reorder WGN so so much better
Betsy Nindlemere - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:58:03 EST ID:JEiVw5oe No.576044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
anybody know of anywhere still with seeds in stock for true overnight shipping? usual website is backed up and telling me my "one business day" i ordered last night isnt coming till monday, which will be painful indeed
Paincreas - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:55:18 EST ID:lTDyxNOO No.576047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How about Regal
Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 17:41:44 EST ID:+rEM/tgD No.576048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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® Brand: "English Food"
® Size: 4 pound bag
® RATING: 8 / 10
® Identifiers: Expires Dec. 2018 - bag does not have batch numbers.
® Source: Company's own website.
® Note: Shipping was free and took just 2 days to be shipped over 1000 miles.
® Price: Less than $25 shipped (~ $5.50 per pound). The river and the whale both carry this brand but are more expensive.

Regal was my go-to from 2011 to 2013, then they changed suppliers and were bunk. I haven't tried them since '13 though.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 11:07:49 EST ID:JafHF3Ou No.576084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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keep hearing this. putting my order in today. I got another bag of SN with the nod snatcher in the mean time and am actually feeling alright on it (because I double dosed). still it's not doing much but better than before where the water was hardly changing color. got it to that muddy brown but it's still way way off. WGN back in Stock I see gonna be joining you guys this weekend.

good news. I've had it on my ps4 for a long ass time (maybe a year) without touching it lol. I got it on sale but forgot I had it until I read this. and speaking of vidya , pic related. hype is off the charts.

not gonna lie man that girl you always postin is cute af. not in like a sexual way but a i want to protect that smile way if tht makes any sense. makes me want to check out the loud house.
Shitting Pammledudge - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 13:48:53 EST ID:3JtHCpt7 No.576097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just got my 12/13 bag of SN and I'm glad to hear its weak af. Been going up and down the tapering yoyo for about 2 months now I want to be done with this shit, I'm tired of being reliant on making a drink so I can function. About to shake up 1 or 2 tablespoons and see how that goes on my day off before I have to work a 12 hour shift tomorrow. Sometimes I wish I never found this thread, the beginning was amazing, like I was getting away with something, but this is some kind of hell.
Beatrice Gammlewill - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 13:56:32 EST ID:oaWRMjn3 No.576098 Ignore Report Quick Reply

If anyone has ps4 and wants to add me the name is oyveygevalt
Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 17:43:14 EST ID:+rEM/tgD No.576103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So... fucking... potent.

This is the first wash from filling a 20-oz coke bottle halfway. Honestly I want to rescind my 8/10 rating. This is straight fire --- 10/10 --- arguably better than the batches from a certain 2 brands last spring. And it's a more well-rounded feel than SN which is too sedating IMO.
WIAKR+Pa !Znt8tNbYYk!!ThyHLvm8 - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 18:05:49 EST ID:XRqY18TH No.576104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm glad you think she's cute lol

I've got two new 5lb 3/Dec/2017 SN bags. I haven't tried them yet, but they LOOK like FIRE bags, no joke. Like, 10/10 bluish white, fully. It's impressive. I'll definitely report back on them in a couple hours. Nb for no high, quite yet. I just wanted to report on this as quickly as I could.

Also, hopefully my new trip works, because I think I may stick with this one, but only if it works haha.
Fanny Willyspear - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 01:03:30 EST ID:iqrX6Jh3 No.576123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have 5 pound bags from both WGN and SN right now and they're both pretty much bunk :'(

Are the 2lb bags sometimes better?
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 01:15:51 EST ID:fQDDp7ZF No.576124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you don't mind my asking, did you order direct from the site for the WGN; if so, what's the EXP for both?

Thanks in advance - I would very much appreciate a reply.
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 01:16:02 EST ID:9OUTCXa0 No.576125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you don't mind my asking, did you order direct from the site for the WGN; if so, what's the EXP for both?

Thanks in advance - I would very much appreciate a reply.
Fanny Willyspear - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 01:41:43 EST ID:iqrX6Jh3 No.576126 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I did, just the other day. Exp is 12/17
WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 07:41:49 EST ID:XRqY18TH No.576137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Sorry, I missed your post at first. Thank you very much for that fantastic write-up! I really appreciate it!

Well obviously it didn't work lol. Oh well. This is good enough for now >:3
! I love Star, me!! Howl, hurray

Update on the bags: They look a good bit better than they actually are but they're certainly not bad. I'd rate them a solid 6/10. They'll definitely get you right, there's no doubt about that, but they're not really all too close to the September/October bags we were getting. Still, I'm feeling pretty great! Glad I got some decent bags, even with the nod snatcher lmao.
Oliver Pezzlefuck - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 08:54:19 EST ID:bqshUYle No.576139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What is the most... not necessarily most euphoric, but most potent analgesic in PST/PPT?
WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 09:02:46 EST ID:XRqY18TH No.576140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Honestly, it's going to be morphine, just because of the relative amounts. There's SO much more morphine than anything else that it completely overwhelms it. (Codeine is the second most abundant alkaloid). Everything else is only found in trace amounts, unless you get the specific strain of poppies which were selected to have a very high thebaine content. There /may/ be some very small amounts of oxy/hydrocodone/morphone, but there's going to be so little of them that they have almost no effect (except when all of the alkaloids are taken together, in which case the tea just ends up lasting for fucking ever - lucky us lol).
Paincreas - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 10:19:37 EST ID:m/luJxz8 No.576141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have ordered 3 different 5lb batches of seeds including RS, SN, and WGN. So far I have only had the RS (regal) which required 2lbs of seeds for a 4/10 buzz. Next try I guess it'll be the SN (red labeled) and hoping for the best. I'll bump when I take it may be a few hours.
Pilgrim - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 06:34:30 EST ID:qs95ENp1 No.576165 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Man what's up with Mr peanut God damn kid, good bag tho.
Angus Neckleham - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 11:50:47 EST ID:r/II1bu8 No.576173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I went with the Wally-world route and WGN since they are even cheaper than the river. 10lbs. For ~37$. Free2 day shipping. Arrived as 2, 5 lb bags. good quality! Unwashed. 7/10 if 10 is the most fire batch of SN seeds from the old days. Expiration was 12/17.
Martin Honeyford - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 06:06:29 EST ID:z+Ci2Ec0 No.576197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So I can buy these withought the dea being at my door?
WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 07:01:15 EST ID:3TbIaDTz No.576202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Please don't buy those. That's an absolutely HORRIFIC price for how much you're getting!! Like, seriously disgusting. You can get over 20× more for that price from SN. Speaking of which, SN has a 10% off coupon! SNRT10

If you still choose to buy them for whatever reason, though, of course you'll be safe lol. If it were going to cause you problems with the DEA, do you think they'd sell it on Amazon? And do you think it'd have 64 reviews?
Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 08:09:32 EST ID:OIpQoQ2U No.576209 Report Quick Reply
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If you plant them they can only be for decoration. Scoring them for opium is a felony manufacturing charge, making tea with them is also manufacturing if they wanna get you for it.

I'm assuming you're getting them to grow anyways. Buying p. somniferum seeds isn't illegal. They actually really do have a pretty flower.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:04:42 EST ID:8D/Q3KE2 No.576219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll add ya in a minute bud. See if you can take a guess which one is me lol

that looks fucking legit. what seeds you using there if you don't mind me asking?

is she actually from loud house? I just see her posted a bunch especially on /co/ and just too cute makes , makes me want to try out whatever show it is.

Going to be doing some pst experiencing soon will keep everyone informed. I just got a #5 SN with the nod snatcher on it but the date is 12/26 so being the closest date to xmas these have to be fire right?! Well I'm only a glass in (breewed almost double dosed since last SN 11/23 SUUUUCK ed. Well I already feel a little lit going to take on bottle 2 now. I'll report back later but everything look ls and feels better than our 11/23 SNs.

Of course the extra sedation could be cause of the ativan but I really wasn't feeling this hoof until the pst hit. I'll come back in a bit and let the homies know the update it. I also picked up a #2 FTL-E and my #3 WGN arrives tomorrow. Should have a good report of comparisons of what we got on the supply side right now. nb cause I'm not there yet
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 00:03:58 EST ID:8D/Q3KE2 No.576236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Update from earlier. Decided to not dose anymore PST tonight cause I'm borderline nodding. The SN seeds seem a bit better than the 11/23s but my dumb ass brewed a pound and half instead of my little over a pound to compensate for the previous shitty 11/23s.

Starting to nod 'slightly' and get worried about the ativan I took early in the day. I had popped them before getting seeds in withdrawl out of desperation. This isn't like your normal pst of opi nod though. There is a little confusion. Maybe just because im physchimg myself up?

Any tips? should I try to stay up for a little bit? It took me about an hour to.write this free of errors lol. I'm guessing it's Benz and I took 5 or 6 ativan lowest dose's so that's not much at all. 2mgs-4mgs tops and the pst I daily take.

I know I know never mix Benz and opi I was just feeling so shitty in WD and used a few next thing I noticed the new seeds arrived and thought hey I could get out of WD but seriously totally neglecting I had taken those benzos as if I was superman.

Henry Blundleville - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 00:29:05 EST ID:pARULwDs No.576238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Coffee, coffee, coffee m8.

Stims if you got em. cold shower. stick your head in the freezer if you must.
be wary of the allure of nodding off! 1x1=5 when it comes to benz and opis. its how most people die on opis.

I usually only take a single .5-1mg of loraz if im planning on getting opi'd. even if its a weak benz, it'll get ya if you mix with another depressant. but you know that.

If you're worried that much its best to play it safe and try to stay up.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 00:45:14 EST ID:8D/Q3KE2 No.576239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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sorry guys ignore the last post. realized I also hadn't eaten or drunken much all day got up for ice cream and water and felt much better. I'd knew I'd be fine drugs just going to the head. Very familiar with opi but not as familar with Benz. just felt really drunk and confused like I was almost dreaming that kind if startled me not being used to it . I knew I'd be fine just a little weird experience. so again sorry for the bullshit for anyone reading this.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 00:52:47 EST ID:8D/Q3KE2 No.576240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh shit just saw your post bro..appreciate it. Unfortunately I have a condition where i cant drink coke or coffee but like i said I am feeling not as bad about it now in my post after yours here. But me calmed down could be all the fucking benzos lol...so super appreciate it man. I'm not necessarily tired other than ocassionsly nods I can fight off. Mostly just suuuuuper comfy....ill.do my best to stat my up as long as possible. Thanks again bro. Feeling loads better already.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 01:02:56 EST ID:Dpyc8m7h No.576241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yah you were way over playing the dangers mane. Having a tolerence to either one greatly reduces the risk of dangerous levels of CNS depression. With no tolerence it's more like 1+1=4-5 but with a tolerence it's more like 1+1=3. It's best to play it safe but you were nowhere near dangerous amounts plus since you were having wd I'm assuming you have tolerence to seeds. You would be surprised how resilient the human body is. I've taken 40 mg valium, a lb of good sn seeds (with tolerence) gabapentin and killed a bottle of wine. I've done this on several occasions and been perfectly fine. I also slept good as fuck.
nz !!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 01:04:35 EST ID:xqj8DQup No.576242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
sometimes you just get nods like that. Benzos can make it more weird. Once I was convinced I was in a room with these two Asian types. Just absolutely convinced.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 01:36:26 EST ID:8D/Q3KE2 No.576248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah I was aware of this to an extent but got into that semi panic zone and was just freaking out. thanks for the reassurance from your story too. God gabapenten...wish I had more.

yeah that's what these nods are like. jolting up out of my nod wondering where my friends went when I've been only one here all night.I just don't have as much experience with Benzo nods so it makes further sense.

Alright since I'm just comfy as fuck now with a slight nod but not true opi nod I'm gonna kick back and try out this evil within game I keep hearing about. Hopefully it'll keep me up lol
Simon Femmlewater - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 02:43:48 EST ID:LVBrlT8t No.576257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah that doesnt make any sense. It should be U47
Fanny Tootbury - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 11:00:17 EST ID:YC4MQA+a No.576263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What kind of Magnesium and Iodine?

> salt water flush or oxygen powder foush

Can you expand on this?
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:25:49 EST ID:bu+IVynP No.576275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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just wanted to let everyone know SN stepping it up now. no benzos today and halfway through my tea it's kicking my ass. I feel amazing. Not going to drink anymore because I'll know I'll just nod out and it's been so long feeling this good want to be up for it. once again sorry for amateur hour last night. hope all is doing well today.
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 21:41:51 EST ID:xqj8DQup No.576292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's just naturopathic horseshit, ignore him
Henry Lightdock - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 00:13:47 EST ID:YC4MQA+a No.576301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I just got WGNs 2lb bag after reading the bad reviews for the recent batch of SN. Got my SN back at the end of Feb.

The WGN batch is a lot stronger, was able to do three washes. I was under the impression that the SN batch (my first PST purchase) was as good as it was going to get. Absolutely loved it.

But yea, over 10 hrs later.. still feelsgoodman from my 2 oz dose. Is definitely a different feel though
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 18:36:55 EST ID:0TSK/4SF No.576348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ya know, I just have to say, I really wonder some companies pre-package or pre-sort certain orders like 10, 25 or 50lb crates..

IDK, nb
LaDiDotty - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:16:00 EST ID:M86sKgoX No.576354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No worries. I didn't ever think you said or thought anything bad I was just curious what the "warning" meant. Thought maybe I divulged too much info or something. Didn't know it was in regards to the bad SN bags. FWIW I always enjoy & appreciate your posts, lots of good info. Also, I hope you are doing well.
I still have an 8lb bag to get thru from FTL. They have been better than SN for me lately although my shipment prior to the one I have now was fantastic. I'm getting ready to place another order & im not 100% sure but I think I'm going the WGN route.
Anyone know if WGN ever have any coupon codes???

Well stay safe y'all & have a lovely evening!
Frederick Fovinglidge - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 17:15:02 EST ID:6hLaSPik No.576372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Has anyone ever had luck buying poppy seeds at places like whole foods? If you're say, buying a new brand. What qualities would you look for? I've heard black seeds with a whiteish film are usually good.
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 19:17:26 EST ID:0TSK/4SF No.576373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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As I have used each, and others may have as well, I must inquire if you guys ordered from the river or direct, if you know which facility it was shipped from, what the EXP dates are of your "good" & "bad" bags so far and what size did you order as well as your bags? I'm not sure if all the previous of which alternate the seed quality, but I believe it may.

I'm sorry for any hassle and thank you all, if you would, as I'm sure it would be appreciated not only by me but by others as well. Also, I'm not sure if WGN even has coupon codes, but even with SN's code WGN is still cheaper direct.

Whole foods sucks, though I haven't tried ALL of their locations. I've heard people buying bulk from bakeries & places as such sometimes do well.. Big or bigger than normal seeds are usually a good sigh, as well as plant matter, but I've had mostly all dark-blackish, grey and blue seeds and while they're usually different on some level; alkaloids or potentce etc, I've had bags with mainly one color or another that have been good. However, as you said; I believe, whitish coating on the seeds are a good sigh as well but I have had quite good ones without.
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 19:44:05 EST ID:0TSK/4SF No.576375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>As far as I know, from their site, WGN; direct, is closed until APR 18, '17 for, I believe, Passover-Easter.
Phoebe Pimblefuck - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:47:34 EST ID:xepx+X+s No.576381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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All they had was BRM
What ever happened to that brand? It used to be posted about all the time years ago. Is it washed? What's the deal? Is it just low potency or...?
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:52:29 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.576382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i still get them from time to time at my local health foods and organics store. Theyre expensive for one thing, its like $8/pound i think. They also just arent great they work ok but theyre never great and usually theres something around thats a better price per weight.
William Drecklebick - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 01:22:41 EST ID:6WQEKNn/ No.576389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Have you guys heard of PoppySeedTom? He's got high quality unwashed seeds from your choice of Amstertam, Tasmania, Afganistan, or Spain. The prices are quite high but there's a 100% satisfaction guarantee and I guess you get what you pay for.
LaDiDotty - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 01:36:14 EST ID:M86sKgoX No.576392 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I always order direct. Although w/SN they still sometimes ship from other locations. I've had ordeRs show up in boxes from the Riv I think because it's closer to my state & would arrive quicker to my state. The orders from FTL always come from their flagship location.
The dates of my last order are; SN 12/2017 & FTL 2/2017. I'm almost out of the SN & ive been mixing the 2 brands. The FTL has been much better than the SN the last 2 times I've ordered. My tolly is moderate-high. It's about time for me to place another order, think I'm going to try WGN.

Hope that is of some help. I hope to read more updates too. Take care.
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 02:20:14 EST ID:0TSK/4SF No.576393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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If SN has river tape on it, if it's closer to you, it's from SC on the east coast as well as if they're temperaraly out at their NY-direct location. If/when SN gets better and you don't care for the river for whatever reason, you can request they order it directly from NY on the invoice.

Just an FYI, if you or anyone else has seen my previous posts, my tolly was-sill is a good 1.3lb-2.5lbs every 36-48hrs of Sincerely's finest.. Hope I didn't go to far there..
Also, thank you again. I may just decide to try some FTL as it's been a while.. Might also check out that tom...

Speaking of which ;)
Would you say the price/quality efficacy is at least equal to or better than this asshole in pic related; when it was good?
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 08:15:34 EST ID:0TSK/4SF No.576404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Haazaa! My package from WGN is coming tomorrow.. Er, today! Hopefully not a minute later as I am really low by currently sharing my seeds with someone who is down on their luck and in need cuz no monies. I ordered it on the 4th, shipped on the 5th and will be arriving on the 7th - Came from NY and arriving in LA, no not the faggot one ;D, because I had a shipping delay last time as well as would have been this time; for incompetent related confirmation, but I emailed them requesting an earlier shipment as I "use that product in addition to ours for sale each weekend at several markets" and they must've put down 2-day shipping. Hah! I mean, the customer service for WGN sucks right now as they stated they were in a change of some sort but, boy, are they understanding as well as cooperative; I have, of course, ordered many times from them.

nb Sorry for so many posts lately, if anyone's bothered - I mean, I luv ya, Stimlion, but I kinda, sorta don't wanna be like you.. Rather, in that way, ofc! ;) BTW, if you read this, what's the deal between StimLiom & StimLioness?
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 08:15:45 EST ID:GrQ1Avf9 No.576405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Haazaa! My package from WGN is coming tomorrow.. Er, today! Hopefully not a minute later as I am really low by currently sharing my seeds with someone who is down on their luck and in need cuz no monies. I ordered it on the 4th, shipped on the 5th and will be arriving on the 7th - Came from NY and arriving in LA, no not the faggot one ;D, because I had a shipping delay last time as well as would have been this time; for incompetent related confirmation, but I emailed them requesting an earlier shipment as I "use that product in addition to ours for sale each weekend at several markets" and they must've put down 2-day shipping. Hah! I mean, the customer service for WGN sucks right now as they stated they were in a change of some sort but, boy, are they understanding as well as cooperative; I have, of course, ordered many times from them.

nb Sorry for so many posts lately, if anyone's bothered - I mean, I luv ya, Stimlion, but I kinda, sorta don't wanna be like you.. Rather, in that way, ofc! ;) BTW, if you read this, what's the deal between StimLiom & StimLioness?
Cornelius Dellerwitch - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 17:56:46 EST ID:pARULwDs No.576425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just downed a cup wash of SN 12/26. No tolerance, haven't dosed in about 2 weeks, so this should be a good test run.

Been hearing good things about this batch. Well, mixed actually, but mostly good. Also got some WGN along with it, because I heard such bad things about SN lately.

So fuckin' glad shit came in today, even if it was late. Been busting my ass at work plus this semesters coming to a close so it's crunch time and my back is killing me.
I was almost going to try to bum a ride to the hospital's pain management office, but I figured the hassle of trying to bum a ride there and then the pharmacy would be too much with my current work load. Not to mention they'd probably just script me some bullshit high-dose ibuprofen or something before they'd be willing to drop a couple vicodin my way. By then I'd be outta school and the work season would be done.

Anyway, I'll update in about an hour.
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 19:16:37 EST ID:0TSK/4SF No.576430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hah, I said I'm sorry for all my posts and it double posts.. That's like a big Fuck You - Should have been a sign; I was mistaken, as I thought, WGN is more incompetent and incapable of comprehending an understandable cooperation than I first stated, as it was a DIFFERENT package that was arriving with my name.. Sorry to whom may have been waiting for an update, even though WGN isn't shipping until the 18 from their direct location..
For thoes of which don't know; to the best of my knowledge:
>WGN isn't shipping from their direct location until APR 18, 2017, due to holidays
Anyhoo, as I was saying, UPS sent me an email saying I had a package being delivered today and it was a different one. See the thing is, I should have known WGNs is this incompetent as they didn't even send me an email for the tracking# until AFTER the delivery of my other, fucking package today; WGN shipped it on the 5th, as I said...
>I swear to God, if WGN weren't one of the only ones currently good, I would drop them harder than the base of trap music because their customer service incompetence knows no bounds - Pic related; me today
Sorry/rant/another post/my idiot self/not high but at least not in pain >.<
Boy am I shitting this place up nb

Even though your tolly is decently lower, I'm excited to hear from your review; did you/do you have any of that shitty SN from at least a couple weeks ago to compare?
Hedda Buzzforth - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 23:44:16 EST ID:pARULwDs No.576433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I do actually. I had a bag from SN about 3 weeks ago that was like 4/10-5/10. Cant remember the EXP. Had to redose like 3 times in one day towards the end of it. Weak.

Honestly, not much of a difference with this bag. Maybe a slight improvement. After my first cup wash there was a definite mood lift and pain relief, but no euphoria or even itchiness. About an hour and a half later, after I ate, I took another cup wash and barely felt a difference. That was likely from the food though.

Perhaps my tolerance is not as low as I'd thought? I feel that if I'd taken both cup washes at once when my stomach was empty then the experience would have been much more enjoyable. A shame because the bag looked pretty promising. Blue seeds with a slight white film and plenty of plant matter. Idk, it should be interesting to compare to the WGN soon. Hopefully WGN has their shit together.

Overall, 12/26 - 5/10. Don't know where all the hype came from, but at least my back pains gone so that's something.
Martha Clayville - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 13:44:00 EST ID:rBMGKBHh No.576438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hey /opi/, I'm an opiate noob with a problem

I water-washed some previously unwashed popper seeds and microwaved the wash in a dish until this goopy resin resulted (it's dry now in the pic). I read some experience reports that you can dip cigarettes in this same resin and get a major rush, which I tried, but nothing happened.

Some questions:
>is this basically opium? (Not literally opium by dictionary definition, but essentially the same, in terms of usage and chemical profile?)
>How do I smoke it, if cig method didn't work, and how much of it should I eat? Will one 00 gel capsule give me any noticeable effects?
>Should I wash this dried resin with methanol for a further extraction? Specifics?
Esther Brimmerham - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:25:28 EST ID:YC4MQA+a No.576439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Did you microwave it in that plastic? Enjoy your cancer.
John Lightridge - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:25:31 EST ID:pg5nVEHq No.576440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Did you microwave it in that plastic? Enjoy your cancer.
Esther Brimmerham - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:28:59 EST ID:YC4MQA+a No.576441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think if you heat PST past a certain point, it destroys the morphine and whathaveyou... Which is why cold water is used in washes. Someone else who is more experienced with drying the product can explain how it is really done, but I am positive it does not involve plastic containers in a microwave.
Martha Clayville - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:43:42 EST ID:rBMGKBHh No.576442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Only till I realized it was a dumb idea and the plastic started melting. Most of it is carcinogen-free

huh so I fucked it all up? That's a shame but it makes sense
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 15:39:52 EST ID:Dpyc8m7h No.576445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dr. Mario, here is the post I was talking about!! Read it if you see this!!

Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 19:52:16 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.576481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It has to be heated pretty high before the alkaloids break down, like you will notice it burning if thats happening. Cold water is used to wash the seeds because it doesnt wash as many fats and oils into the tea.
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 23:05:41 EST ID:0TSK/4SF No.576488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In addition, the seeds absorb & therefore expand due to the warmer water - You can shake longer, get more alkaloids off with minimal absorption using cold water.
Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 09:17:41 EST ID:nqvLVjiz No.576500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Heads up guys, FTL just claimed "out of stock" of all their (E); a recent bag of mine shown in these posts:


Amazon has 11 more bags allocated (after I just ordered one) and they're shipping straight from FTL.

Things are looking grim.
Isabella Goshridge - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:47:20 EST ID:rBMGKBHh No.576502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so whaddaya think
Should I just slather my pipe in the stuff and go at it with a hand torch?
Priscilla Duckspear - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 18:04:33 EST ID:3JtHCpt7 No.576507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
anyone ever flown with a bag before? I've been trying to taper and failing and at this point am not sure I can be off this by the time my vacation rolls around.
Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 19:05:29 EST ID:nqvLVjiz No.576514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are you worried about getting "caught" with it? One, it's perfectly legal. Two, TSA agents do not actively try to find drugs, only potential weapons.

You should be worried about the bag breaking open and spilling all over your shit though.
Oliver Dinkinspear - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 11:26:24 EST ID:3pdmGxNp No.576553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576502 If you thought that was a good idea, for your own safety stick to simple washes of the seeds with water and soda, and drink the resulting liquid.

Seriously, you will find no success trying to smoke the results.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 11:56:25 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.576554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
theres a tek to get smokable product or purified alkaloids but its a bit complicated. Whatever you have that you want to try smoking is not going to pure enough i can promise that. Do w/e you like with it but i would just eat whatever you have.
Oliver Dinkinspear - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 13:15:59 EST ID:3pdmGxNp No.576559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576554 Yes, however I do not believe they would do it safely enough for it to be a smart idea to smoke the resulting putty. That is what I meant, there is less than 5 people on this board whom can find success with that tek.
Shitting Cluffingstock - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 14:36:50 EST ID:23ewvkMM No.576560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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my order came in today... (i'm not giving any hints to the vendor) and it is really good. I have gotten about as high as I do from my other vendor with with half the amount of seeds. This is fuckin awsome. have a nice day /opi/
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 15:03:44 EST ID:0TSK/4SF No.576562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Way to be a fag.. I mean you do know there are A LOT of other quality seed venders; even on dBay, they're just more expensive. I mean, seriously, why even post here just for that unless you either are being a dick, troll, as you have nothing better to do or are lonely. I've written long, personal posts recently, but at least they were subject to discussion.

Oh, i might also be getting my 25lb WGN; direct, today, so if I do I'll be back.
Shitting Cluffingstock - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:56:46 EST ID:23ewvkMM No.576568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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lol... you are taking my post way too seriously. rofl...
Frederick Buzzdale - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:39:57 EST ID:nqvLVjiz No.576585 Ignore Report Quick Reply

If you've been addicted to tea for several years then getting high is serious business and these are rough times for ppl w/ no illegal connections.
Hedda Smallcocke - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 23:19:34 EST ID:23ewvkMM No.576590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Really?... I dunno where you live ( i'm gonna guess you live somewhere in eastern usa) but down here in the south/ south west there's some grocery markets that sell tons of poppy seeds. Tons of em... no problem at all.
Nell Blodgechutch - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:11:48 EST ID:CK4XHrZ8 No.576611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>for morphine extract (instead of opium): add slaked lime, freeze again, take frozen tea block and cut/melt away all but the top layer

Using calcium hydroxide to make the morphine into calcium morphenate isnt as easy as "add slaked lime". You can just randomly add in the shit, you need to get to approx. pH 9 and heat the solution to make the reaction happen, pretty much the same thing as cooking #3 heroin into #4.

>put in oven at lowest with door cracked (some people say you can boil the water away but ive never had good yield w that/my gear)

Is calcium morphenate even active?

You could just liberate the morphine from the calcium morphenate using an acid (and again, heating the solution while doing so). This will yield morphine freebase which you can then use like that or make it into a proper salt.

Morphine extraction isnt that easy. Have you even tried any of this stuff you suggested?
Hamilton Cozzlehutch - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:04:59 EST ID:3pdmGxNp No.576627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It is not easy in any sense of the word, even with my knowledge about chemistry I do not believe I am going to attempt it.

However, there is a much easier method that does not involve much of the complex steps in comparison. I would be able to get this, but still, it loses about 30% of the alkaloids.

Only useful if you do not want the other alkaloids within the tea.
Shit Blupperridge - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:13:11 EST ID:CK4XHrZ8 No.576640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>However, there is a much easier method that does not involve much of the complex steps in comparison

I thought the calcium morphenate method was pretty much the simplest method for alkaloid extraction in general (even though it only extracts the morphine and a bit of codeine).

Theres just no room for cutting corners with this method. If you fuck up at any point with the process you fucked it up, its done, your yield is gonna be shit and your morphine is gonna be shit.

Also from what ive seen is alot of people do the mistake of not using a concentrated enough poppy straw concentrate solution. What this means is you dont attempt it on your usual pot of PPT, you need to make a bunch of pod putty from a decent amount of pods (hundreds of grams) and make pod putty. Its a good idea to have something to filter it really well too. (id get some filter bags and a vacuumable buchner funnel for it. the buchner will come in handy later aswell). Ive assumed that you need to add 1-2 parts pod putty to 10 parts water for the actual extraction process to get a concentrated enough solution.

Personally i dont know too much about chemistry either. I used to think this process would be easy peasy but then i did alot more reading into it and when i grasped the overall concept and the problems it turns out theres alot of things that can ruin it.
Shit Blupperridge - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:20:59 EST ID:CK4XHrZ8 No.576641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Btw the only reason id do it is to get morphine freebase i can chase off the foil as it is or make bth with glacial acetic acid.

Panda5 - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 15:33:01 EST ID:nqvLVjiz No.576665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I was one of the last to order FTL (E) before the river ran out on Monday; what follows is my story:

® Got 4-lb bag about an hour ago -- Exp. May 2019.
® The most pod matter I've ever seen in seeds (and I've been doing this since 2011), but they're mostly crown bits.
® A good mix of blue and brown seeds (though more light blue than I'd like), no filler reds or whites.
® Bag smell was promising but not dankDankDank.
® Pictured is [1st wash in bottle]-[1st wash]-[2nd wash]
® Taste was acceptable and definitely viable, but not particularly bitter.

I'll report back in a while as far as effects. I did 2 bottles worth - 2 washes each, so like 2/3 of a pound.
Jenny Gillydutch - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 16:40:54 EST ID:YH7TmATQ No.576669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Sup dudes. I'm used to BRM but I'm trying a bulk brand today I got from a foreign food store. I drank the first wash and it wasn't as dark and earthy as i'm used to from BRM, but I'm aware that could just be literal dirt - it's "Chef's Reserve" brand, manufactured by Sahadi, and I was wondering if anyone had tried them.

Pic attached is of the seeds. I've been using about two years so I can usually tell when seeds are viable by looking at them, and these are ostensibly useable, but I was wondering what ya'll thought.
Panda5 - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:33:51 EST ID:nqvLVjiz No.576672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm about 60 minutes in and I'm definitely starting to feel a few zen waves and my eyelids are getting heavier, but it doesn't feel like this dose is enough to kick my ass or anything. It's not fully kicked-in yet but I'm giving it a 5/10, good enough but not as mind-blasting batch I got three weeks ago ( >>576036 ) but I'm glad that these work - I'll probably just have to use slightly more seeds next time.

Pic related - today's batch.
DatNIGGA - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 04:52:28 EST ID:pzfmrXbc No.576705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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LOL, seen Ur post on circle jerk. Man I fucking hate that place. A lot of good info, but that "fuzzyasshole" mod is a cocksucker and theres too many retarded rules. I quit posting there because of that prick.

Anyways, for real tho, you can't tell by looking at the seeds. I've gotten bags that look just like yours with a ton of pod bits that were inactive. Wouldn't even take the wd away.
Flip side, some of the best bags I got had no pod bits. You really can't tell until you test the batch.
Besides that, shits inconsistent,even within the same exp date/batch#. One bag might be fire, the next might be garbage.

BTW brm(and that cr brand for that matter) sucks compared to the fire brands so be careful if you ever get around to trying the good shit.
Henry Wurringsetch - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 19:21:22 EST ID:M/Y4w9cJ No.576741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What are your guys' preferences for store bought poppies. There's an organic foods market in my neighborhood and they carry "Bobs Red Mill". I bought a pound, this will be my first time, wish me luck!
Fanny Sevinggold - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 23:42:52 EST ID:M/Y4w9cJ No.576759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have seeds but need a comprehensive step by step on what to do here.
The internet has conflicting recipes, mainly differing in the water boiling part. I'd rather not have to boil water
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:08:32 EST ID:l+uoWpqZ No.576761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dude they suck and I can only assume you are underage if you cant order good seeds online. I mean Jesus all you have to do is read through this thread and you can figured out the good brands. The popular ones are popular for a reason. Shit, even if you don't have a card all you have to do is get an prepaid Visa and if shipping's the problem, get it sent to a trusted friends place.
Fanny Sevinggold - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:22:22 EST ID:M/Y4w9cJ No.576762 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>read through a 400+ post thread to find what i'm looking for

and shipping is not an issue, i'd just like to be able to buy locally. so what are some good brands, bud?
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:30:26 EST ID:l+uoWpqZ No.576763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You don't have to boil shit.

  1. Measure out you seed dose. Start with a half cup (2.5 oz) or a full cup (5oz) to judge potency. If they are good seeds a half cup should get you high with no tolerence. Full cup should have you nodding.

2.put the seeds in a bottle, coke/Pepsi/pop bottles work best. It must have a lot of threads and be squeezable. Milk jugs suck.

3. Fill with water about an inch above the seeds. Most people on here like to use cold water, I usually use warm water but really it's just preference. There is some evidence that cold water gives you a "cleaner" wash meaning less of the bad oils you don't want. A lot of people well suggest adding lemon juice to make the water slightly acidic, thus supposedly removing the morphine off the seeds better than just plain water. Again, it's preference. I don't use juice and it still works well so I never bothered with it. Experiment. I've heard lemonade is good to use and masks the taste pretty well.

4. Shake for 5 minutes.

5. Loosen cap a few threads and use the slightly loosened cap to filter the seeds, squeezing the bottle and filter into a cup.

6. Drink the now seedless poppy tea.

Repeat steps 3-6 for second wash.

Experiment with different liquids and ratios of seeds to water that you like best. Some people like to use more water, some less. Etc.

Good look and stay safe. Always do a test dose first if you have no tolerence.
WIAKR+Pa - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:41:15 EST ID:XRqY18TH No.576764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lmao I ordered them exactly like that (prepaid Visa and both a PO box and friend's house) whilst living with my parents. EZPZ.

Also, there's really no excuse for >>576759 (no offense, but really?) I mean, I post dumb shit all the time lmao, but if you can't read up on the drugs you plan to do yourself, then you're just a liability for everyone else, and you're exactly the kind of person to OD and somehow really publicize this shit, ruining it for everyone. There's literally a search bar, or even CTRL+F, so just search for key words (shit like 'prepare' 'shake' 'seeds' [though that one's probably a bit overly common], etc.) and find the posts. I'm pretty sure I've posted a method before, but I'll do it again just so you hopefully don't fuck up lol.

Fill desired amount of seeds in a water bottle (PLEASE start small if you're new, even if you're only new to that brand), fill with liquid (soda - preferably diet if you do it often - or any carbonated beverage, especially the zero calorie fruity stuff, or even juice or just plain water), shake until the bluish white color disappears completely or almost completely and the seeds look EXTREMELY black. Put the cap on semi-tightly, but at an angle, and squeeze it into a container to capture the liquid. Repeat at least once, but some people choose to do a third wash (I don't think it's necessary, personally). Chugging it is best, but ONLY after you know how it affects you. That's because codeine impairs its own metabolism to morphine. In the beginning, I nodded for LITERALLY two entire days. 48 hours straight, and I was still pretty buzzed even after that. Ahh, fuck how I miss it. If you leave it out for more than 24 hours, it'll go bad. 24 hours is my hard limit now, after a (couple lmao) bad experience(s). Absolutely no boiling necessary, and I certainly wouldn't recommend it.

BRM is OG, it was one of the first brands to ever actually work worth a damn, but these days it's not nearly as good as other options, on top of being a tad bit extremely expensive lol.
WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!x2qcf1mW - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:55:15 EST ID:XRqY18TH No.576765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Also, I finally added my trip to my phone, so hopefully it should be remembered now.

Dr. Mario! I haven't seen you around!! Are you still all good? :3

Pic related is of course me to all of you guys, but especially to you, and everyone else who needs it right now — looking at you, ANTI BWN ;~; !!
WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:59:29 EST ID:XRqY18TH No.576766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well shit. Fucked it up AGAIN ahahhhh. I hate to triple post needlessly (aside from fixing it so that my phone remembers the correct trip!), so let me at least find something else useful to say lol.

Oh, I know! Has anyone ever had seeds germinate after using them for tea? I haven't, and so I'd like to know if I'm just unlucky, if it's because I'm using carbonated beverages, or what. Thanks in advance!
Cedric Chonnerstock - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 01:22:55 EST ID:YC4MQA+a No.576768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cedric Chonnerstock - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 01:24:36 EST ID:YC4MQA+a No.576769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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oops, meant to post pic related. NB.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 02:23:58 EST ID:l+uoWpqZ No.576773 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sn, ftl-e and WGN are the most popular and all have widely vary potency from batch to batch but are always at least decent. Never had an inactive bag from an of them. You're lucky I'm in a good mood. Usually I'd just tell you to fuck off. And you wouldn't have to read every post dumbass. Almost every post has these abreviations in them.
Molly Cramblefield - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 12:42:02 EST ID:jgzbFNoW No.576787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well gang, I've managed to reduce my dosing to about 2lb, only on the weekends. Not strictly out of discipline, but more family pressure and lack of funds lol. The most addicted I've been was about 6 months ago, when I went to an Afrikaner festival in South Texas. Anyway, I fell into the classic mistake of not bringing any doses; needless to say, on the 2nd and 3rd days I had the classic shitty signs of WD for the first time ever. Made me realize, fuck, I gotta either reduce my doses or double down on this shit. Eventually I took a month long T-break, and now I'm back to dosing, but only on the weekends due to the aforementioned limitations.

Yall ever consider just stopping? Or cutting back? This whole recent SN quality drop on the River is probably forcing/encouraging a lot off people to follow suit. Perhaps that's a good thing..
Edward Greenfuck - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 15:12:42 EST ID:CK4XHrZ8 No.576794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Has anyone ever had seeds germinate after using them for tea?

Im betting the hot water+shaking will damage the seeds to the point where most of them just arent viable anymore.

What were you trying to germinate them in? What kind of soil? Are you trying to do it indoors or outdoors?

Ive found that using soil specially ment for sprouts makes the seeds germinate significantly faster and grow more vigorously. "Sprout soil" is usually a fine consistency soil with a mix of peat, sand and normal fresh/nutrient rich soil.

Id recommend that you simply use seeds not ruined by washing. Plant them in a tray with at least 5cm layer of "sprout soil" or use like toilet paper tubes that you stuff with the soil. They WILL germinate indoors. Ive had seeds germinate in <5 days, i kept them under a fluorescent light at my kitchen sink the whole time. Keep the soil decently moist at this stage. Water delicately using a spray bottle or just wet a piece of toilet paper and squeeze it to gently dribble the water on the soil.

You transplant the poppies when the sprouts start pushing out "proper" leaves. Transplanting them is pretty tedious but alot of people blow it out of proportions how hard it is. Its easy as long as you are *very careful* and transplant them in about fist sized clumps using a small garden shovel thing.

If you have any questions, ask away. I learned quite a few things about this when i did a poppy grow.

(pic related this is the point at which you should begin transplanting. i know its ridiculoiusly overseeded so go easy with how much seeds you plant)
WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 15:40:47 EST ID:JEUCwlCK No.576796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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LMAO >just stopping — I fucking wish. If I had any willpower, I wouldn't have gotten addicted in the first place lol.
Molly Cramblefield - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:27:37 EST ID:jgzbFNoW No.576797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Heh I understand that. And despite my preaching, i received a 12/26 SN from the River today; good quality, I'd rate 7/10 with low tolerance.

Anyway, if you do come around to the idea of "just stopping," I've found that kratom is very, very helpful for that purpose. Not so much for the withdrawals, necessarily, but more for the day-to-day activity of trying to get high lol.
Rebecca Gicklechidge - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 01:06:31 EST ID:kJePIbZl No.576816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes, I flew with two 5 pound bags. On the way back half a bag. The tsa agent asked to open my bag and swabbed the poppy bag with some cotton.
no problems.
Rebecca Gicklechidge - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 01:09:58 EST ID:kJePIbZl No.576817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm thinking of growing some poppy. I've saved some seeds from good batches and got them to germinate in seed starter kits, however they always die after transplanting outdoors. I thought poppies were super easy plants?
Augustus Bruffingson - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 03:39:11 EST ID:itPI27KG No.576821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been on a rapid taper from 9-11oz to 4oz over the course of a week. I just ran out and now I'm a little scared that it's still premature to jump off. Still get annoying WD symptoms though progressively less severe. Gonna try the local farmer's market tomorrow for some emergency seed. Declining SN quality has maybe inadvertently helped but I've also escalated my use to offset it and now getting off is a pain. If nothing else I want a tolly break but really I just want to function without having to dose every other day.
Thomas Purringwod - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 06:38:27 EST ID:1/276my3 No.576824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Could they find morphine residue if they processed that?
Thomas Purringwod - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 06:41:28 EST ID:1/276my3 No.576825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lol read some guides. They don't do well transplanted. Also you have just about missed the planting window for most of the northern hemisphere...
Augustus Bruffingson - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 07:19:56 EST ID:itPI27KG No.576828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's most likely not enough to raise red flags and poppy seeds, washed or otherwise, are completely legal. You need to wash quite a few seeds to get enough morphine for a buzz.
Phineas Crodgeshit - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 07:56:28 EST ID:CK4XHrZ8 No.576831 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>They don't do well transplanted

Have you ever grown poppies or only read guides? They do just fine transplanted.

I dont know what sort of fucking "guide" youve read but maybe try growing your own before you give shitty advice. Theres NO REASON whatsoever as to why they wouldnt grow well when transplanted.

Transplanting them is the best way to do it if you want to protect your sprouts from rainstorms and excessive moisture and/or have limited space.

You just have to transplant them on time, see my post above with the details on when to transplant and a picture of sprouts at the stage when youre supposed to start transplanting.

>you have just about missed the planting window for most of the northern hemisphere...

I live in Finland, the grow season is short and shit here. Still, my poppies have done just fine when ive planted them in early may. Its mid april, sowing the seeds right now is perfectly fine if the weather allows it

Literally dont talk out of your ass if youve never sowed a single poppy seed
Phineas Crodgeshit - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 08:04:42 EST ID:CK4XHrZ8 No.576832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>they always die after transplanting outdoors

You need to do whats called "clump transplantation". You have your sprouts in a tray or something, the soil should be atleast 5cm deep so the roots wont get bound and snap when you transplant.

When you transplant them, you first make a hole into the soil on your flowerbed/your grow buckets etc. about the size of the clump you are about to transplant. Then you take your gardening shovel and grab the "clump" with that on one side and with your other hand on one side and carefully pull it up and put it in the small hole you just made in the soil in your flowerbed/bucket. Its not that hard if you just do it correctly and bear in mind that the poppy root is very fragile at this point.

What sort of soil did you transplant them into? Make sure you have fresh soil for best results.
Phineas Crodgeshit - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 08:07:50 EST ID:CK4XHrZ8 No.576833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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this is how mine looked after transplantation. sorry for the triple post, nb again

hope this gives an idea of how to do it. if i could do this while tweaked the fuck out, you can do it too.
Angus Fegglekere - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:49:57 EST ID:jgzbFNoW No.576836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good for you man! Idk how addicted you are (strength of your usual seeds, duration of dependency, etc.) but if your withdrawals aren't critically severe, I'd say it's worth quitting altogether soon. Just bear the brunt of the WD symptoms lol. Stock up on immodium (supposedly when taken at high enough doses, this alone can help WD symptoms) and maybe kratom, or weed, and benzos if you can get em. From my experience, the first few days are the worst, followed by about 2-3 weeks of a not-quite-as-bad (but still not fun) adjustment period.

After a few days of discomfort/pain, you'll come to enjoy a few things returning to normal: shitting/bladder function returns to normal (altho the shitting might take a while), your sex drive returns to normal (it gets suppressed from the seeds), and you'll be able to get natural endorphin and/or dopamine reactions more frequently again. And best of all, you won't have to dose every day, and your tolerance goes down fast!!!
Augustus Bruffingson - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 15:25:11 EST ID:itPI27KG No.576849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks bud. My seeds used to be crazy good (or maybe it was just crazy low tolly) where I'd be high for multiple days on 3 or 4oz or so. I'd also use once a week max. Even half a year later during the holidays 8oz doublewash would still get me nodded, but it's pretty obvious that the high was getting shorter and shorter and WDs would come faster and faster. Approaching one year later I'm using every other day to function and just cause a shit ton of life stuff kept happening and I couldn't just jump off before dealing with them first. Judging from everyone else's reviews, I know it's not just my tolly (thank god) but that the seeds themselves are getting bunk.

WDs have condensed themselves to where they come at-latest 24hrs later. My last maintenance dose was pitiful but it did get me well for work at least. I think the shitty seed + rapid taper has actually worked out in my favor. This is the first time I've gotten to the third day without feeling like absolute death so I might give up on going to the store to add a day or two of sobriety (I suspect sprxvts seeds in my area are inactive anyway). I got more seed coming in a few days but I want to lower my tolly at least so I'll just deal with it for as long as I can. Trying to push for at least a week sober before dosing again but I don't know how long the "hump" of PST takes since the half life is so damn long and I might need a maintenance dose later today even if it gets worse, but for now....I'm feeling surprisingly okay (cept for these shits goddamn)! Also got naltrexone coming soon for ULDN and I've heard miracle things about it so I'm excited to try that out.
Martin Sizzlefadge - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:49:09 EST ID:VL2b0mYI No.576856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Has anyone ever drank the stuff after it's been fermenting for like an hour? I made a batch and froze it, but it has that weird taste to it. What exactly would happen if you drank it?
Ebenezer Huvingbury - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 22:21:34 EST ID:aBSW7+vW No.576866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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can I safely make pst out of super old poppy seeds, like maybe a year old? I don't do this shit very often but have some left over from a long time ago. at the time they were super strong from SN
Rebecca Duckgold - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 00:16:26 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.576870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ive still made tea out of Jan-2016 seeds, still in the SN ziplock it came in.
No ill effects.
Fuck Drettingwed - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:04:30 EST ID:CK4XHrZ8 No.576882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>What exactly would happen if you drank it?

The lipids and shit from the seeds leach out and when you drink it youll propably vomit and/or shit yourself, at best youll just feel sick.
Phineas Sisslebury - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:58:29 EST ID:3JtHCpt7 No.576886 Ignore Report Quick Reply
FTL, WGN, or SN right now which is best? about to order that bag to take with me on vacation with. would probably rather get a smaller one, was thinking a 4 pound FTL max, 2 lb SN/other bag min. Any opinions would be appreciated, gotta order by tonight.
Henry Greenway - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 16:04:29 EST ID:1/276my3 No.576890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
All of the SN and WGN I have gotten in the last few weeks has been unwashed good quality.
Phineas Sindlecocke - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 01:41:14 EST ID:itPI27KG No.576918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My dumb ass caved and ran to the store to get some bulk seed. Warning to people thinking about it since I've seen it before in this thread: Sprxvts has impotent fuckseeds. They smell like pepper and a 6-7oz (higher than previous dose just to compensate) MAYBE got rid of my shits. Had the familiar yawns/fatigue three hours after taking them, insomnia, (better) shits in the morning and terrible shits exactly 24 hrs later.

I'm actually praying they're completely inactive just so I didn't needlessly "rewind" my WD timeline for practically no relief at all. I've got some bags of WGN coming tomorrow and I'll try my damnedest resisting the urge to dose, but only time will tell.
Oliver Clurrylare - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 13:54:31 EST ID:3JtHCpt7 No.576944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you won't be able to resist. It's probably too late to cancel so the best thing to do would be to not open the box, start a return, slap the new sticker on it and when you feel well enough head to your nearest UPS dropoff. You are already in the middle of the worst of it dude don't fuck it all up tomorrow.
Emma Diggletat - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:58:29 EST ID:itPI27KG No.576977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Man, I really wish I saw this earlier, but it was already too late and my mind and body were both screaming for it. Having them shits and nausea and sweats and insomnia for 4 days or whatever with no seeming letup in the WDs ended up being too much to handle with this sudden increase of work this week. Just today I scrambled in barely functioning and got some raised eyebrows. I was afraid I would shit my pants just climbing the stairs. But after this week this stupid academic shit will finally be over so I can at least kick in the comfortable hell of my own room. Naltrexone should be coming in a few weeks as well.

...But good news folks! WGN (exp. 12/7; 2lb river shit) is ACTIVE. Kicks the absolute shit out of the last two bags of SN I had. Strangely not very bitter (unless I'm just that used to it) but very obviously viable, kicking in incredibly fast. Bad news for me (but good for you guys, I guess) is that what I thought was a maintenance dose of 5oz or so seems to be going the extra mile. I haven't felt this zenned in months.
WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 01:45:11 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.576989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I tend to find that if you drink it within 24 hours, you should be fine >90% of the time. Any longer than that, and you're pushing it. I've gotten pretty shitty food poisoning from it before lol. Not fun.
Cedric Brankinville - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 06:10:11 EST ID:rJuWiChR No.577003 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got my 5# SN (ordered from River) on Easter Sunday. Thank God for Prime, eh? And received a WGN 6#, still with 12/17 exp. (ordered from River) on this past Friday... the 14th, I believe.
Now, I use 1# a day usually, but if I get a fuego 5# bag, that can last me a good 10 days.
I opened the WGN bag ASAP, stuck my nose in and I get a nice earthy smell at first but then moves to this chemically after-smell.
I make my wash ritual with a #. First sip; a very, very, very mild hint of bitterness, and the wash was pretty light yellow with a tad tint of brown, it's that color that points to an inactive or close to inactive bag, not as dark as I wanted it to have been; you know? So I take a couple big gulps down.
20 minutes later: sweats are fading (mind you, I'm in withdrawal and have been for the past 3 days), nose has stopped running (could be the Benadryl I popped 10 minutes before drinking the tea), The sweating slowwws way down, "cool, maybe I'll finally be getting a good buzz tonight", or so I thought.

So, after a couple more little gulps I knew this shit wasn't strong enough to even get me close to high or a nod and the extremely slight "bitterness" is not enough to warrant a chaser, so I downed the rest in a go.

So, it's been about 2:20 hours: ALL my withdrawal is terminated for the most part. No real high to speak of, except maybe a slight positive mood change. I guess I can be thankful this bag will stop my WD's.I hate scoring, but fuck it: 4/10 [took WD away for pretty much the whole day, killed my very slight chest pain, couldn't touch my back pain, and boosted my mood a bit (possibly from not having to suffer WD)]

Anyway, I wrote a little long review there of the WGN, but that's just because I was disappointed In them this time around because only 2 orders prior to this one; one bag was really, really good. And the next(and last fire bag I've ever had) was fucking LIT ON FIRE...figuratively of course. Let's just say it was my first time nodding my face off while standing upwards. What's funny is that the date on the back of those fire seeds was 12/17 exp.

Anyway, SN... SN. Like I said above, I received this package on Easter Sunday. Ripped it open - okay smell, not too strong, not to weak to where you have to jam your nose in the bag just to catch a whiff. No pepper smell! Light to moderate plant matter, quite a bit of red seeds, not very sticky. After my first wash with a #, the water came out lookin like it was one of the first SN washes I made back 3 years ago; very dark, orangish, reminded me back to the very nice old school SN days.

However; upon taste, there's no bite on the tongue that often is a feature for good shit, this SN was did not have that bite, but it did have a 'back of the throat....ewww' type bitterness to it.

I take 2 fairly large gulps, 30 minutes later I can kind of feel some warmth - working around my shoulders to the back of my head, and with that, a nice very mild relaxation feeling, like weak muscle relaxants. The more I drink the more the aforementioned effects increase, just by a little. This ain't fire like the old school SN, but it is some pretty good stuff, at least my two bags.

Anyway I just popped 30 mg of ambien and about 4 hours ago my bud called me asking if he left his meth piece around (he does it pretty much every other day). I told him I got it safe and sound for him. He then prompted to text me saying "yo, there's a few little shards in the bag the piece is in if you wanna get twisted tonight" Now, stimulants aren't my thing, but I took him up on the offer, just for a new experience "fuck it" thing. I was bored as shit, pulled up YouTube, and just watched a couple people hit meth with what looked like the same pipe I currently had now. Lolol. I've done meth before, but snorted it, didn't like it at all really. But these passed, whatever time it has been, has been pretty crystal. Haha.

I feel like I can sit here and type forever and ever and ever, but I won't. I've never posted a "review" tweaking before. Well, I never posted a review period on here. Pretty sure this will be my last, was just twacked out and wanted something to do. Hahaaha Anyway, both of the brands are still very finicky at this moment. I ordered FTL and should be here Friday or Saturday. I may or may not review that bag here, since there's not a lot of reviews on 420chan anyway, and you know, I kind of preffer that to r e d d it

Be safe everyone!!!! Oh, and if anyone needs for me to answer any questions on the basis of these bags throw em up! Laterz!
Cedric Brankinville - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 06:14:34 EST ID:rJuWiChR No.577004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh, I forgot. I would give this SN 12/26 dated bag a...6.5/10
WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:05:48 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.577067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've got a bag of SN, FTL, and now WGN! All dated Dec/2017 expiration. FTL and SN seem to be mostly approximate at this time, and I'm about to try out the WGN! It's crazy that you can get more (weight in lbs) for less cost with these brands! I might have to switch over lol.
WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:11:43 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.577068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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