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procrastinating by Sophie Crimblefud - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:08:54 EST ID:mrZRpP+j No.587805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So I had a bad chest infection whilst smoking splifs and heroin no3 off foil with decent technique and low heat

I've currently stopped using so much at night and not at all in the morning till I've had a good bowel movement or 5
I've got gabapentin and bud and ketamine for withdrawals and I'm using 2 inhalers to help clear my chest out

Why can't I just stop doing H? I've got everything I need and the reasons too and I'm sick of opis now I can't get high off them or w.e and even.tho o hardly do big doses and maintain on .4g a day smoked I can't get high OR FIND THE POWER TO START QUITTING IT

I'm puss puss

Lol I hope u do better than me as far as will power goes. I have strong will too just like heroin whose is stringer atm
Oliver Crenkinwell - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:45:42 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just think about how high you'll get after you quit, that's what's getting me through it. of course this is pretty terrible advice for the long term but hey, what can ya do?
Just some guy - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 18:38:22 EST ID:cs3KcCCW No.587814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i think typically the best thought pattern to try and keep when you're getting off is 1. how wasteful it is financially and 2. how shit you start to feel after each time you get high, like personally i'll always wake up regretting my high. stay in there man, there's a light at the end of the tunnel, i've seen it. dividing your time up is good too like hanging out with friends, getting out of the house, playing games, exercise, listening to music, making sure you have no free time.
Walter Sockleforth - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 22:07:36 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.587825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Cyril Mupperdale - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 00:12:24 EST ID:FsPvJ5ZR No.587829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
and what to do if I can always buy my stuff and still have lots of free money and I don't feel bad about getting high?
Fanny Billingwater - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 09:56:52 EST ID:mrZRpP+j No.587856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol dw i dont enjoy shooting it dosent feel very nice (probs the gear & my tolerance)

ty for all the posts & halp =] & honesty lol
Shit Dummlebit - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 13:41:25 EST ID:2xCbfE7E No.587898 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Buy oxycodone then dummy.
Nathaniel Hallerville - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:16:08 EST ID:FsPvJ5ZR No.587899 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that's what I'm doin
Isabella Pittwell - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:48:06 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.587905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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:( im jelly
Augustus Chandlepadging - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 09:30:41 EST ID:FsPvJ5ZR No.587944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But seriously tho, didn't mean to sound like an asshole, just curious what's your advice cause this sounded like kind of stuff you can hear on meetings or therapy
Augustus Chandlepadging - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 09:31:57 EST ID:FsPvJ5ZR No.587945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But seriously tho, didn't mean to sound like an asshole, just curious what's your advice cause this sounded like kind of stuff you can hear on meetings or therapy
Isabella Dracklelock - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 09:36:38 EST ID:mrZRpP+j No.587947 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I cant go back to that huehuehue
Charlotte Fuckingspear - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 10:26:20 EST ID:Jov5vCrc No.587953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You're an oxybro too then, I love that energetic high.
Didn't really get what you ment fam.
Frederick Snodson - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 03:30:34 EST ID:dbH7/dKX No.588060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>You're an oxybro too then, I love that energetic high.
i also like oxy the most.

though, lately i've found that tianeptine seems to do a surprisingly good job mimicking oxycodone's almost-stimmy dopaminergic energy high at the right doses. it just doesn't last as long.
Shitting Claddledale - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 05:02:03 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think they were asking for a serious answer to this post

basically they want to quit but money isn't an issue (thus saving money won't be a motivator) and they aren't morally bothered by their drug use (they don't feel like shit after they get high so that's not a motivator either).

my (probably shitty) advice is to think about how much higher you'll be able to get once you quit for a bit (be safe though, that's how people die).
that, and looking forward to the day when I'm no longer burdened by physical dependence is what's helping me make progress. not really a long term solution but sometimes all you need is a comforting thought to get you through the rough patches.
sorry if this doesn't help or actually hurts, I realize it's probably a bad way to look at things but it's what works for me so I thought it might work for someone else too.

watch out with tia, I like it too but it's got a similar problem as tramadol in that the withdrawals+side effect are straight up hellish.
btw check out the free acid and the sulfate for a longer lasting high. free acid is my preference cause it's cheaper but the sulfate has a smoother curve (free acid is more front loaded, not your typical sustained release).

again though, I'd only really recommend it for keeping out of w/ds when your DOC is unavailable. It's an atypical antidepressant that fucks with glutamate, and if there is anything you don't want fucked around with it's glutamate, holy shit.
Hugh Bappernatch - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 03:23:35 EST ID:dbH7/dKX No.588241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>the withdrawals+side effect are straight up hellish.
never taken tramadol but i don't think the withdrawal from tianeptine is any worse than any other opiate if your u-opioid receptors are downregulated to the same extent. it just comes on really quick and suddenly due to the short half life. i actually find this useful when purposely withdrawing to allow my receptor density to return to normal.

>It's an atypical antidepressant that fucks with glutamate, and if there is anything you don't want fucked around with it's glutamate, holy shit.
i am fairly sure this is a myth just like the "serotonin reuptake enhancer" property a lot of people talk about. i see no reason to believe either of these effects exist considering there's nothing experiential to suggest them, and any research that suggests it has these properties is dubious from what i've seen--or not even real to begin with. i'm not entirely sure why there's so much misinformation surrounding this drug but i had to spend a while looking into it to cut through all of it.
Emma Greenbanks - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 04:58:36 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.588245 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Only skimmed abstract, sorry if their methods were trash I didn't notice, but I don't think it is entirely a myth.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 05:56:49 EST ID:8jokqkrn No.588250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tianeptine and tramadol w/ds are different and in many ways worse and more broad than pure mu agonists because the sert activity is not a myth.
Jack Pockson - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 07:33:42 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
neither of those are myths (I assume the SRI stuff is about tramadol? tramadol, besides being an opiate, is also a "typical" antidepressant and these effects are not at all in question in the medical community), you could find this out in two seconds with a google search. it is definitely an atypical antidepressant and its effects are thought to come from some method of glutamate modulation, the nature of which I can't comment on as I haven't really researched this drug's pharmacodynamics.
Charlotte Tillingstone - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 11:22:20 EST ID:OHIHxMID No.588377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
can vouch for this. you’d be surprised but tramadol WDs were way worse for me than WD from huge doses of PST back when SN was on point last year. tramadol is weird. it’s extremely subtle especially after you’ve gained a tolerance but if you are actually depressed you can most definitely feel the mood uplift from the antidepressant properties. hard to explain but it doesn’t get me very high but does take me out of WD for about a day.

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