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QEMISTRY THREAD TIME by Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 03:47:28 EST ID:0uw3AbpZ No.592276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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i i ran a test the other day. I bought 2 cans 12.5 oz each or 408 grams of solo brand poppy seed cake and pastry filling. i also bought quite a bit of BRM seeds quite a bit. However I prepared and consumed the tea i made from the the Solo pastry mix first.it wasnt until well after i was very high and actually startednodding hard that i started consuming the BRM. which was also good but honestly this may be a fluke but i felt the pastry mix was like 2x stronger at least than BRM. It actually felt as strong as really pretty damn good seeds. like it honestly felt like they started repackaging all the highest qaulity seeds in these cans of pastry mix and then actually dont wash the seeds with water to remove the opis it tastes like they actually for reals wash the seeds with corn syrup instead. which would remove like no opis.

So today I bought a crazy number of cans of poppy seed pastry mix. I bought NINE bottles of pastry mix each which contain 354 grams thats a full 7 grams of poppy seeds thats even a large dose for me. Plus i also bout 2 pounds of super fresh ultra fire seeds i can only get once a month from this mom and pop shop that never has them in stock but theyre ALWAYS 10/10/

Ok so im gonna start prepping the cans of pastry mix all 7 pounds. wish me luck. I'll report back with as many detailed results as possible but i expect to get fucked up as hell. and if not i can ad the other two pounds or the morphine freebase i made.



I might make some pure morphine from the seeds well see


BUMP
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Hollyucinogen - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 03:51:20 EST ID:zLc4Z/Xk No.592278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ths is sool, is there a cooking process you have to go to in order to do this? I'd love to learn.
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Hollyucinogen - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 04:22:41 EST ID:zLc4Z/Xk No.592279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Will poppy seeds alone work? I can't get access to pods, I don' think, at least not for a few days. And I can't wait days.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 07:19:58 EST ID:Rf7buG/v No.592286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592279
did u even read the thread all im using is pods.Honestly the pastry filling is dark and alkaloid tastying and and makes tea the color of seriously fresh mud its so bitter they added so much corn syrup and sugar that it tastets like morphine flavored candy for reals. will keep reporting back. already coming up hard tho
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 07:21:17 EST ID:Rf7buG/v No.592287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592286
>did u even read the thread all im using is seeds
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Hollyucinogen - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 07:51:48 EST ID:zLc4Z/Xk No.592289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>592287
I wasn't sure whether you useds pods or seeds because I'm kinda new to the idea o opiate tea and I haven't really learned the terms yet. If all you used was seeds, that's fucking great for me because then I don't have to wait five days in the mail and deal with withdrawal that whole time.

unrelated withdrawing picture is unrelated.
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Hollyucinogen - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 08:02:36 EST ID:zLc4Z/Xk No.592291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592286
Also, does the cake filling matter? You said it was making it hard right? So what's the point?
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MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 10:31:43 EST ID:PwqFf16x No.592295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592291
>Whats the point?

Umm, the fact that Q thinks its a tin full of sweetened morphine might have something to do with it.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 14:15:28 EST ID:Rf7buG/v No.592303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>592291
still didnt read the thread. these are seeds that havent been washed at all only been soaked in corn syrup and sugar so none of the goodies are washed off AT ALL theyer all kept in the syrup the seeds are in. plus they taste an insane like morphine like crazy hard like morphine but mouth puckering and AMAZING. Also the washes are as dark and dank as when i was getting 91/10 seeds in 2012 im 2 pounds in and nodding my face fucking off and have another five pounds.

Guys these might seriously be a new replacement because theyre great tasting easy to prep and insanely strong with a hella good high like no thebaine at all. its nuts.

its not cake mix its fucking pastry filling made of ultracompressed seeds that werent even washed just soaked in corn syrup so all the drugs are still there.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 14:21:47 EST ID:Rf7buG/v No.592304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>592303
guys the second ingredient is corn syrup which means they compress the seesds and then can them directly into the corn syrup because otherwise if they did the normal method of washing or rinsing itd be unsafe because of bacteria.



So these are fully unwashed and taste like candy and are $3.50 and contain 353 grams of just fully unwashed seeds compressed down in the can as tight a s possible soaking in corn syrup. for comparison i did like 8 pounds of BRM a few days ago and it took me 8 pounds to feel as good as im gonna feel in just another pound of these.
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Ian Senderwune - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 23:31:10 EST ID:gHiLNIZy No.592330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>592303
so is preparation the same considering the corn syrup? just shake up a few cans in a 2 litre with some kind of liquid? also curious also as to how you prep large batches of seeds. did you get these at a big box store? im in FL and just from a google search neither walmart of publix have them in stock
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Oliver Heggleman - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 23:33:21 EST ID:mBPlAP/Y No.592331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>592330
sheeet you practically need someone to shove the seeds down your pie hole
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 23:52:12 EST ID:Rf7buG/v No.592334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592276
I'll make a detailed guide fror how to get th eopis out. its a little harder than juts making tea but the liquid is was stronger and more concentrated and just insanely strong. i was coming up hard after two drinks. the seeds arent like loose seeds theyre more like poppy seeds made into like desert pie filling and then soaked in corn syrup and jam packed in the bottle.

and most places carry these even smaller grocery stores just ask for canned poppy seed pastry filling.
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DrFeelsGoodMan !psUx8WBMWI - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 04:55:46 EST ID:1qQ4guRe No.592348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>592334
Gonna see if I can find a variety of these and test this weekend. I'll let you dooders know.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 08:27:30 EST ID:Rf7buG/v No.592357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>592348
idk your tollerance but to give you an idea of just how dank these seeds are heres a picture. I only used 3 cans so 36 ounces or 1000 grams of seeds. Its so dark brown you can hardly see through any of it with it directly under the light.

so go slow
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DrFeelsGoodMan !psUx8WBMWI - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:52:13 EST ID:1qQ4guRe No.592363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592357
about three-five points of H. Always wanted to try the mix of pst though.
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DrFeelsGoodMan !psUx8WBMWI - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:53:17 EST ID:1qQ4guRe No.592364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592363
that should read three to five. Dunno what my stupid fingers did
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Charles Sinderbire - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:12:35 EST ID:dVklYZPf No.592365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck it I bought 6 cans. Awaiting instructions sir.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:37:03 EST ID:Mbas1KCo No.592371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592365
is this drfeelsgoodman or someone else.
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Charles Sinderbire - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:53:07 EST ID:dVklYZPf No.592373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592371
Someone else, usually I'm just a lurker but post here on benders sometimes. No worries take your time I just thought it was a good deal per pound if the seeds are as potent as your saying. I need to rebuild my stockpile and I'm no stranger to teks/extractions so I thought it might be some fun.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:56:28 EST ID:Mbas1KCo No.592374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592365
i need to know your tolerance.

items needed;
can opener
large mixing bowl
2 liters of soda of your choice but the more acidic the better
i like a electric cake beater but like a crank powered whisk would work otherwise a hand mixer
a tshirt you dont give a fuck about the thinner the better make sure its pre wet and then dried until damp DAMP

first add all the cans of disgusting seeds goop depending on tolerance to a big mixing bowl then add 2 liter soda of choice to the bowl using some to rinse out the still goopy cans and mix the fuck out of it till your arms are gonna fall off (or use that electric mixer) after mixing the seed goop and soda well while its still liquidy before the seeds settle pour the mixture through your pre-dampened tshirt using it as as a filter im sure u can find a way to do this part making sure to then catch the filtered liquid in a large bowl of some kind to save all the goop in. then just take the tshirt and squeeze as much liquid out of the shirt as you possibly can and add that all to the bowl. the shit in the bowl is your drugs btw

thats all and its insanely strong.
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Charles Sinderbire - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:09:29 EST ID:dVklYZPf No.592376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592374
My tolerance is pretty low yet. Coming back from a 5 month t-break but been using about .5# of seeds a day for about two weeks now.

That's an incredibly easy tek. I'ma do it Saturday then and see how it goes.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:17:50 EST ID:Mbas1KCo No.592382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592374
half pounds dude start with 2 of these cans at most u can always add more
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pills !zkraGArAss - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 01:17:37 EST ID:YUsHOrn2 No.592401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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God damn great thread Q.
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Lydia Closhterk - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 01:31:55 EST ID:gHiLNIZy No.592402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592374
thanks Q, doing gods work out here, cant wait to try this. is this like PST where you should mix for too long because the seeds start to leak that stuff that makes you sick? how long did you mix it for with the electric mixer? im gonna have to use a wisk so id like a comparison

my tolerance is at zero right now and im not looking to jump straight back to dope so im gunna start with a can or 2 of this, you really cant go wrong for the price
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pills !zkraGArAss - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 01:34:04 EST ID:YUsHOrn2 No.592404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>592402
You know reading this. You would thibk that the seeds would leak in the can? And also who the fuck wants a poppy seed pie. Like i feel like thatd taste god awful
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Augustus Hemmleridge - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 01:54:16 EST ID:dVklYZPf No.592407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592404
Poppy seed desserts are a central/eastern European thing I believe. Poles and Ukrainians make some kind of dessert roll/cake out of the stuff. IDK I looked in the baking section of the gc this morning but didn't find any so I assume it's not too popular an item around here. I wound up ordering a case of 12 off the river just cause this sounded interesting to try. I had ordered 6 but cancelled that because it was $37 for 6 cans or $46 for 12 cans. If this works well I'm gonna be happy because storing cans sounds a lot more attractive than bags and bags and bags of seeds. Plus if the quality is even close to consistent this could be a neat way of getting around seed shortages and price hikes. SN just up'd their prices again today and they don't even have any in stock!

As for pie specifically idk, can't be worse than rhubarb. And if it does taste good getting your daily morphine intake is a good excuse for eating an entire pie.
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Hedda Driffingfirk - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 02:38:24 EST ID:tpl80L18 No.592413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592407
they are basically in every bigger store around central europe but they contain no morphine or other alcaloids, people already tried to do something from this stuff even before pst, it's useless
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Hedda Clabberforth - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 03:56:12 EST ID:ii5yOlXJ No.592415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592413


Well I just made a batch and it looks fucking hideous. This better not be a clever troll.
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Thomas de Queasy - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 06:01:39 EST ID:PXV80Zyf No.592418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592415
Nah, Q is a true bro. I've witnessed it first hand.
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Augustus Hemmleridge - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 12:56:33 EST ID:dVklYZPf No.592436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592415
Well can you provide a trip report?
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Cornelius Pesslesudge - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 15:30:11 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.592441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592436

If I didn't have an iron stomach I'd probably be sick. It did help WDs. Probably did something wrong, it was a dickload of liquid and my filter didn't really filter out corn syrup. I used a t-shirt. I got some new nice fitting white t-shirts though, hua. Hopefully getting laid and in an effort to not shit corn syrup blood everywhere I'll stick to my regular opis. Good in a pinch I guess, I drank a fucking cup of corn syrup so if I could get the refining better Itd be worth it.


Use equal parts fresca and gross poppy sludge. Withdrawal is starting nowish, dosed at time of my other post.
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Ian Siffinggold - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:26:52 EST ID:IcRgvhz4 No.592444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592441
I totally thought this sounded too good to be true. Can anyone else confirm if these work or not? Also can these be found in major stores in the US? I think I've seen these on the shelves before but didn't even think twice about them because of the "corn syrup" thing...
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MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:53:18 EST ID:594Rslxb No.592445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592444
Jesus christ READ THE DAMN THREAD.
Why is it so hard, All of your questions have been answered.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:01:34 EST ID:Mbas1KCo No.592447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592444
Guys i nodded for 2 days off this shit its real.Yes its thick as fuck and gross but but as long as you train the seeds its dank. Use one lite of soda per 3 can and mix them crazy well. then filter the seed goop and press the/squeeze the filter as tightly as possible to get all the liquid out as possible.


U used WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much filter idk how many cans though. a liter per 3 cans is about right and mix like insane better than u can by hand need an electric egg beater. Then sincle the goop comes out as corn syrup and slime (WHICH U KEEP) add 50/50 soda of choice the carbonation and extreme acid and flavors makes it taste good enough to more than tolerate.


Or fucking odnt beleive me because i make troll threads ALL THE FUCKING TIME and because I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES THE SEED MARKETS. CAUSE THAT Q HES KNOWN FOR BEING FULL OF SHIT AND NOT KNOWING ANY SCIENCE.

>>592413
FULLY wrong. There isnt any wat to rinse the morph off the seeds before canning that wont potentially contaminate the can and is therefore unsafe and cant be down. thats why they SOAK THE SEEDS IN CORN SYRUP instead it looks in the flavor and freshness and ALDO THE DRUGS.

>>592407
stay the shut the fuck up about this or u need a a hammer in the mouth. You want redditors to start buying all the cans off that place too and needing to start paing fucking $20/can?

>>592441
The faster u chug the way higher u get sooo.

>>592402
start with 2 can with 2 extra to go just in case u fuck up or dont chug or some shit. as for mixing actually mix LONGER than for tea the good stuff is in the corn syrup so u gotta seperate that from the seeds, coke or pepsi work best for that followed by mountain dew.



i miss any questions?
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:02:48 EST ID:Mbas1KCo No.592448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592444
AND THEY ARE IN EVERY SINGLE CHAIN GROCERY STORE IN THE FUCKING USA THAT IVE EVER BEEN TOO FFS
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James Wirrystone - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:16:30 EST ID:AQbER3fq No.592455 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Aren't you afraid of getting diabetes from this? Idk how much corn syrup is in those cans but i would imagine it's a fuckton
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Wesley Wandlestitch - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:12:54 EST ID:dVklYZPf No.592458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592447
>stay the shut the fuck up about this or u need a a hammer in the mouth. You want redditors to start buying all the cans off that place too and needing to start paing fucking $20/can?
lol understood. I only post about opis here anyways and I only lurk *dit for for date/lot reviews. Like I'd give those doomsday preppers another thing to hoard anyways. Some of those guys are freaks I'd rather hang out with kratom users I think. But yeah fuck benevolence.
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Hugh Fonderstodging - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:29:11 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.592459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592447

Chill famalam I don't know any users here, just checking around. I used way less than a liter, the syrup itself was what there was too much of. Used fresca since its second ingredient is citric acid. The syrup squeezes thru so I drank a bunch.

The Chans are known for trolling so it's pretty easy to see why someone would be suspicious of a post suggesting you eat a bunch of gross shit. I mixed for about 30 minutes.


I still taste it on my breath after eating and drinking. Worse than benzedrex in that way. I can't see myself keeping it down when I'm rattling so... Yea. So do you drink a full can worth of syrup when you do this, or is your shirt filtering better than mine?
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Archie Soffingpack - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 02:06:04 EST ID:8c54rFRj No.592464 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592447
>FULLY wrong. There isnt any wat to rinse the morph off the seeds before canning that wont potentially contaminate the can and is therefore unsafe and cant be down. thats why they SOAK THE SEEDS IN CORN SYRUP instead it looks in the flavor and freshness and ALDO THE DRUGS.

Why not? You do realise that canned food is sterilised in an autoclave right? everything inside the can is sterile up until the moment you crack it open, so that explanation doesn't wash (hah)

and calm down yo
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Archie Soffingpack - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 02:09:09 EST ID:8c54rFRj No.592465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592455

You can't get diabetes from consuming a lot of sugar. common misconception.
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MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 03:01:54 EST ID:YUiiAVG+ No.592466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592464
Washing seeds adds several steps, that adds dramatically to production cost. You don't do it unless you're forced to.
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Archie Soffingpack - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 03:33:57 EST ID:8c54rFRj No.592467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592466

Then why do so many cheap shitty washed seed companies do it? They could improve their margins but they just don't bother?

Besides, thats an entirely different reason to what Q thinks.
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Hugh Fonderstodging - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 03:41:51 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.592468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592467

They don't, people are just paranoid. It's likely just bad seeds. What happens to washed seeds? They get fuckin gross in a few hours.
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MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 04:08:22 EST ID:YUiiAVG+ No.592470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592467
I think country of origin probably matters, because it may be a requirement to wash them.
Some poppies (Pharma) are grown for thebaine content for oxy and have very low morph/codeine. So all those seeds h ave to go somewhere.
I'd wager that others come from plants that just arent Somniferum. Lots of local poppy seeds here are Oriental /Khas Khas. Same with most of the seeds I saw in India.
Take all this with a grain of salt, I'm not primarily a seed head, nor do I really keep up to date with this stuff until I have to.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:12:58 EST ID:X46vrR6f No.592483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592470
Yeah country of origin. If it's the middle east, they'll be washed. wink wink. But places like Australia for example. who do sell their seeds from their crops very likely do wash them. But when you get them from some lawless corrupt tribal region, well can you imagine them trying to dry out tons and tons of wet seed? No way. They'll give the guy who does the licensing a big drink and he'll stamp it and off it goes,

I don't have much to say on poppy seeds. For me it was a 13+ years ago thing, Like when I was 14 and doing dxm and pot. We had good seeds back then. I don't know what they're like now. There was an expose done by this shitty reporter that offed the scene overnight.

Literally in the course of a few months harmless seed addicts who'd never broken a law in their life, had no ties to the drug scene and had never smoked pot got into harder shit. The fijian born indians who got curious and then addicted (a lot of them ran dairies where they sold seeds under the counter in 1kg bags with a free lemon included) switched to codeine and probably become broke in the process of having to buy codeine everyday. The rest, an amalgamation of ex junkies from the 80s who didn't WANT to use heroin or morphine and just liked having an easy, no strings alternative to methadone or just liked the buzz went back to heroin and those who liked the buzz but never had to do it in the first place were forced to move to heroin. It was a dirty shame. The thing about our country being so small is when shit llike this happens, you can feel the effect easier and quicker. I wasn't using needles at the time but I heard suddenly it was much harder to score because all these new people were coming out the woodworks. They'd approach junkies who they'd met while they were buying seeds to get them through a period of no money and ask them for introductions. That's another thing, it was an amazing alternative to the methadone program. Of which there is one. If you fuck up on the program you're out on your ass and no other clinic to go to.

Bit off topic but just some seed history,
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Phineas Cibberdock - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 00:50:44 EST ID:0qWF/dvr No.592489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592468
I'm sure when seeds are washed industrially they dry them afterwards, they don't just leave them wet in a 2L plastic bottle.
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Eugene Beckleford - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 10:54:24 EST ID:z7NIj9TV No.592508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592489

They don't rot, but they still get nasty and lose what makes them a good topping. But, Spain seeds are that type of fuckin nasty, so it's possible.
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 15:53:30 EST ID:7WzOxD3O No.592509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>592508

So to clarify a few things about the industry, since I'm the only vocal dedicated seedhead:

Very few seeds sold in the U.S. at the online level are "washed." Industrial washing costs extra and changes the taste profile of the seeds. What most of you think of when you think of seed washing is nothing like what they do in the industry.

There are specific companies who specialize in seed washing, and they really only do it when large corporations specifically request their services at the associated costs. This is why most (but not all by any stretch) corporate chains that have their own brand of spices and seeds typically "washed" sell poppy seeds in ridiculously small quantities for upcharged prices. This is mostly a response in the excessive theft of unwashed seeds. It's largely the seed thieves that can be blamed for the excessive prevalence of washed seeds in large corporate chains that don't sell BRM.

Now to explain the "washing." They don't wash them with traditional water; they use a complex heat treatment that essentially blasts the seeds with ridiculously hot steam. The seeds are then dried in heated and extremely well ventilated rooms so that they are not wet for very long. Because they use ridiculously hot steam to sterilize the seeds contamination isn't a real problem.

That being said, online-only retailers hardly ever fuck with getting their seeds washed. I've only seen a few like Nuts dot c0m (Quetz it's not sourcing they have the worst seeds on the planet and have for years) that explicitly mention washed seeds.

As for country of origin and washing, there has been rumors of increased washing of Spanish seed meant for export to both western and eastern Europe. The rumor is based on EU recommendations to wash and heat treat seeds. The recommendation was never implemented, so that's not why. I just assume that Spanish seeds being bunk pretty often contribute to this rumor.

In fact there's such an impact of the bottom line price that I doubt the majority of any country of origin washes their seeds. Because of the UK seed shortage, prices for all seeds have notably increased, at least in the US. Spanish seed prices keep going up. UK seeds went from $11/lb to $12/lb just a few days ago.

Then I talked to a few eastern Europeans who use seeds and they've mentioned that nearly every local source has switched from Spanish seed to Czech seeds, and that the Czech seeds are total crap thus ending their seed scene. I have no proof, but the fact that two people from two separate countries have mentioned all their sources switching from Spain to the Czech Republif likely indicates global Spain seed prices have increased and now can't compete with Czech seeds, at least in eastern Europe.

All of it is relatively moot because UK seeds are 10-50x better than any other country of origin on average. Spain is the second strongest country of origin, with Australia about as strong as Dutch seed, and Turkey is in last place. You're truly lucky to find Spanish seeds that are even 1/5th as good as UK.

I wish I could send our mainland Europe and Kiwi friends a sample of the UK seeds so they can see what I've been talking about again and again for years.

No offense to Australians, but Australian seeds used for tea are NOT safe for consumption over the long term with repeated orders. Thebaine poisoning is too high of a risk and it's only Australian seeds that have this problem.

>on another note

Can anyone confirm ever buying a Naltrexone pill or blister pack of pills that had pills that look like this? No markings on the front with a simple score on the back.

It was sent to me by an online friend months ago for free and we have no contact now, so I'm not sure. Maybe it's from somewhere like India and originated in a blister?

Need some input before I try making ULDN with this. The only reason I'm even considering it is it wasn't sent to me for profit, though it was sent along with other stuff. It's also orange like 90% of naltrexone pills, and most of them have a score in one side.

I would use a reagent test, but this shit is so cheap that they're worth more than the pill itself. Usually it would still merit a test for my own safety, but seeing as I will only be using it for ULDN anyways (0.002% to 0.1% of a pill per dose twice a day) there's realistically no known drugs lethal in that dose range except opioids, for which I have a tolerance shield. Perhaps I'll do one anyways but we all know it's going to come up with nothing.

Anyone have experience with this, or perhaps seen a similar pill thats not naltrexone? I'm assuming you can only help if you bought your naltrexone online without a prescription. All the US precription Naltrexone has a pill ID as required by law. Ultimately I should probably buy more naltrexone anyways and test a sizeable dose and go into mild PWD to ensure its not fraudulent. There's no way I'm consuming an entire mystery pill at once though.

Naltrexone is the only realistic long term antidote to opioid OD if a hospital is off the table (being deep in the wilderness, on an open ocean boating trip, renting a secluded cabin, being on parole, probation, on his 2nd strike and a 3rd conviction means prison, etc.). Narcan will not be enough a lot of the time, especially as the presence of black market Fentanyl hcl drastically decreases and the presence of multiple long duration fentanyl analogues explodes in popularity. The old "if it lasts under an hour it's fent" adage doesn't hold true at all anymore. Plenty of analogues have a half life of 3-4hr and a duration of action well into 6hr if your tolerance is low enough to notice.

That means a person might need 1-3 Narcan sprays/shots every 20-30min, for at much as 4hr for typical IV drugs. If a person ODs on say PST and some street "Xanax" containing Alp/Etiz/cLam/FluLam/FluPam/lord knows which botched RC that can't sell itself by name/a different dry class entirely (yes it happens, life threatening OD), we could be talking about an 8 hour overdose.

Most people have 2, 2mg nasal sprays if they are lucky. Some exchanges are only giving out a single 2mg spray.

It's a complete joke, as there shouldnt even BE Narcan nasal sprays. IM is much more effective, and the only reason I've got both is the nasal spray prescription legalizes the IM vials and loaded needles. It's only a thing because of politics, needle laws, and the stupid social assumption that handing out needles with vials will provide junkies with drug paraphernalia, even though they're huge fucking IM syringes.
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Priscilla Cerringcocke - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:12:56 EST ID:IcRgvhz4 No.592513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592448
I've been to like 4 major chains of grocery store here in lower GA and I can't find a single can anywhere. The only place I haven't tried is Walmart because I hate Walmart.
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Phyllis Perrytug - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 20:28:02 EST ID:vAq3hmw3 No.592518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592470
>>592483
>>592509

I remember reading somewhere that the seeds from the thebaine producers are destroyed/very heavily controlled.
I can't seem to find the source right now though... :(
I believe that the main reasons they have such strict controls over the seeds are to keep a monopoly on the genetics and to prevent genetic mutation/contamination affecting future crops.
If the plants are allowed to grow naturally they will mutate and interbreed with the cultivated crops, which would change the alkaloid content.

I'm not an expert though, so I could be wrong...
it's a shame I can't find the original source I read this info from...
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Phoebe Gerrytare - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 01:58:48 EST ID:0qWF/dvr No.592523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592509
>No offense to Australians, but Australian seeds used for tea are NOT safe for consumption over the long term with repeated orders. Thebaine poisoning is too high of a risk and it's only Australian seeds that have this problem.

You really that's it's a tiny percentage of Australian seeds that are high thebaine right? It's very unlikely that any/many of those make it to market as they're specifically designed to supply pharmaceutical companies.

Also, please show me something on the damages of chronic sub-toxic thebaine doses. I know it's toxic, but it has a short half life and it seems really unlikely that accumulation is going to be a problem with long term use.

I've taken 7kg of shitty Australian seeds in a day and not experienced thebaine poisoning. I'm not saying it can't happen but I think you might be overstating the dangers.
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Phoebe Gerrytare - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 01:59:59 EST ID:0qWF/dvr No.592524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592523
>You realise
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Phyllis Demmerham - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:13:09 EST ID:zkBZvEc4 No.592526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592523

afaik he's never presented his evidence for that despite telling someone they were rounding it up back in october in the PST thread. Appreciated that it may be hard to find data but at this point it's nothing but conjecture. nb.
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Phoebe Gerrytare - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:18:19 EST ID:0qWF/dvr No.592527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592518
I missed this post. This, essentially.
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Phoebe Gerrytare - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 02:19:30 EST ID:0qWF/dvr No.592528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592526
Yes, I was the one who asked for said evidence. There's certainly a shortage of readily available info on the subject.
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Edwin Bloffingstat - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 21:46:09 EST ID:5m6uIvNK No.592596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592447
Holy fuck Q. Please make these threads when you're not so high because you come off as borderline unintelligible. At least one person misread and used to thick of a filter and wasted his time and money while another poster was confused enough to possibly take this to circlejerk.
If you're going to get upset about the lid blowing off of this, then you might want to blame your unprofessional postings.
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pills !zkraGArAss - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:02:18 EST ID:DvS7UB12 No.592598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>592596
I understand we have some cross posters usually cus we're slow but if anyone would tell shit from here to circle jerk thats just lame. All those kids will just spread shit like wild fire.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:59:52 EST ID:DyCz7y9R No.592600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592596
or here an idea you take the time to assemble and put together these ideas into actual things that can be safely tried by every rano on the internet i can account for. everyone has my steam theres a thread here people can fucking reach me. im not going to allow some but annoyed folks who dont understand how to ask for clairification on an instruction to force me to trun me actual FUN home chemistry projuects that i do because i enjoy trying to do them and seeing why they did or didnt work thats fun for me. writing up all this stuff so that it serves any point or purpose aside from my own enjoyment is up to me and is my least faveorite part i fucking hate writing, So instead of letting angry people who cant figure out how to say

"HEY Q HOW DO I THIS PART SPECIFICALLY? CAN YOU EXPLAIN BETTER WHAT AND HOW IT SHOULD BE DOWN RIGHT INA MORE CLEAR AND MORE DETAILED WAY BEFORE I USE AN IMPROPER DEVICE AND FUCK UP SINCE I DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU EXACTLY MEANT?"

Which id then do

Rather than let the people who cant figure out how to communicate that most basic level ruin one of my favorite hobbies by trying to start subbmitting these posts while sober and to force me write it up in some stupid formatted redddiittted shit-garbage Typed double spaced MLA with a thesis and bibliography by tomorow.

NO ABSOLUTELY FUCK THAT SHIT> Im going to do my chemistry the way i enjoy to do it and not let any shit communicators who cant just ask me questions force me to domy writes up in ways thatd sooner make me drop my desk to, motherboard, nvidia1070, keyboard and $3000microscrop off the roof of a fucking chem lecture hall (not the lab room thed need to write up notes or some bullshit paper on the meaning of why i choose the building or why dismantle the comp or why destroy it but nothing else.

maybe instead of blaming me for even bothering to do this shit you could say thank u not that i need one or even like want one. what i want is to be able to do my chemistry in the way in enjoy because its what i fucking enjoy. if you want to learn to do all thisyou go fucking learn ir and type it how you fucking like. ooooh that one guys poor towel or w/e Know how many of that shit ive gone thru over the years doing this? i destroy at least one almost every time.

>>592598
people have been copying my chem threads to there for awhile now. my favorite part is with every extra step in recopying it and repostinh iynits like telephone and more shit get changed to be wrong. last i check my morphine extraction guide also on RDDET now its so inaccurate AT BEST ALL THAT HAPPENS IS YOU DUMP OUT THE DRUGS at worst last i check they had people using actual household ammonia cleaner instead of ammonium hydroxide to freebasify. so yah you wanna bitch someone out guy (not u pills) maybe bitch out the people who "tweak" me recipes to make them better or because doing it this way makes better sense. THERES A REASON I DO SHIT THE WAY I FUCKING DO
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Emma Fambleditch - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 23:07:28 EST ID:cA/PwSFS No.592601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592600
Your resentment of this community is beginning to show and is painful to read. Take some time off and cool the fuck down until you can post like a normal person.
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Shitting Gingerford - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 23:24:08 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.592603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592601


Right? The irony of him telling others should learn to communicate is thick. As far as I can tell this synth is garbage and a troll or the result of placebo. And I can already see the angry posts he blasts this back with, but dude this is barely chemistry at all. So far all this thread had me do was drink some shit sludge, which I think was the entire point. The 'do you know who I am' shit is absurd anywhere, sorry your reputation isn't as widespread as you imagine but you'll get known for actually providing good info cordially instread of being aghast at the idea that someone would have the gall to not know a kitchen chemist sharing his ideas and rage on tokey Chan
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 00:36:50 EST ID:DyCz7y9R No.592605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592601
i dont resent the community just when people decide who i should live my drama. pk can believe whatever man but your tight thats why i keep coming back here cause i hate it and am resentful of it an all it represents. sighs w/e man.

i had some cinnamaldyhyde coming plus some hella fun super rare chems most people even the chem heads havent seen. to run some public teqs with for people but i just donnt care enough to argue yall dont want science threads w/e one less hobby to make time for. now i can spend more time doing other thing like oh fallout4vr which im gonna go get set up and start playing right now

...

well this started as a good thread. as soon as shit becomes blame Q because others cant ask questions or deal with trial and error im so done.

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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 01:00:59 EST ID:DyCz7y9R No.592606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>592603
not even a synth barely an extraction guess i thought the internet could figure out a basic extraction using water, my bad im the retard your right.

feel better? your right? the world is safe again? im a big bad monster who hates the communinity has no idea what hes talking about is full of shit all the other insults u threw at me. why bother?

to turn the tables gee batman im fucking a retard sosince you seem to think communication is so important and that im so bad at it and that i clearly didnt communicate some critical steps and why they work and how exactly to do them so i have some questions of you since you seem apparently to be an expert in this.

"As far as I can tell this synth is garbage and a troll or the result of placebo"

ok can you can expand on why you think that? any actual science or math or like actual documents explaining why exactly fresh seeds work but these ones dont? does canning them or corn syrup destroy the opium? no and according to the ingrdiendts here in the US these are BREADSEED POPPY which are P somni.i dgaf about my reputation i never claim to be Q MASTER OF ALL THINGS POPPIES AND IDK WHY PEOPLE SEEM TO CLAIM I SAY THAT.

its not like i forced u to try it and since u think my rep is shit anyway why did you? You say my reputation is meaningless to you but still drank it.

whatever next time we'll all just wonder forever if something has drugs in them because apparently u can document eating drug u make on the internet (regardless weather anybody says they work with out so many bitch fits that its like raining douchey rrain


fuck. w/e do w/e my thread its actually a trll anyways i drank all 9 cans of 13 ounces of seed goop just to make myself sick and trivk no one. HAHAHAH I SURE FUCKING FOOLED ALL THEM


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