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!ZcijO7gk.6 - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 03:30:39 EST /tldDCDL No.611876
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Which agency do you suspect are lurking here. Quite a few of us have dropped off the face of the planet seemingly over the years. The internet never forgets and I suspect /opi/ has directly played a role in people that are likely doing bids right now...

Of course, there are those that have overdosed and faded into oblivion, but with opiates no longer an honorable problem, I feel like something is just off. The more I have thought about it, the worse it gets. Do you suspect /opi/ is "bugged"? Why wouldn't it be.

Inb4 I'm a stimmed out, braindead cunt. Be aware that if money from something seems good, it could cost you. We live in a weird time. If we don't adapt and stay observant, we are all as good as banned from IRL for at least 18 months a stretch.
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John Honeywater - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 04:25:44 EST tzi0h4Ds No.611877 Reply
>>611876
too much effort to nsa the shit outta some crackhead's 420 posts. Im sure some cops or doctors horrified by people "abusing" sacred medicine, to feel good about cutting another poor pain mgmt sap off their meds or some shithead agency formed to combat the "opioid crisis" must browse on occasion, strictly for the lulz. I'd imagine theres way way easier ways to convict someone for buying/selling dope. Your post is like when youre positive its amphetamine psychosis but you still peak thru the blinds just to be sure.
Lots of people have disappeared because some have died sadly but mostly because the quality of dope and supply of rx pills vs demand has plummited. Same with the quality of this board. This forum was born during the heyday of 80s and stop signs not to mention actual h. Just like the saying of give a 2 bit junkie $10 for a hit of dope and watch him go, (dear cia) fill the streets with dope and this board shall rise again.
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Archie Maddleham - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 12:04:34 EST ZWRu8e7L No.611885 Reply
>>611876
I think you're just being paranoid, but don't take that as an insult I get paranoid too at times.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:04:28 EST MZO/O/UH No.611886 Reply
>>611883
Didn't he rob a pharmacy then come on here and boast about it or something?

I'm sure there is some kind of agency from a couple different countries that monitor things said on here but I'm sure most of what is posted is just taken as hear say as long as it's not outing vendors/sourcing. Even people like Bombastus posting incredibly in-depth TEK's on how to convert codiene into hydromorph or hydromorph into Acetylmorphone probably isn't taken too seriously because who can validate the fact that it's true other than the person doing it themselves.. I don;t know if it's worth police resources to chase down anyone claiming to have done such things on a chan board.... As far as ven and the pharmacy robbery though.. that was plain retarded. Kirt had a hand in informing on him if I remember correctly but obviously he had an obligation to do so.
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lol - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:08:49 EST oaWRMjn3 No.611888 Reply
>>611886

Yeah it was definitely stupid on his part but it absolutely made me smarten up about what I say regarding illegal shit, statute of limitations and all that shit. Don't tell on yourself is my point, otherwise unless something they take seriously like that I doubt anyone else on here is in danger of getting in trouble. Just don't share any serious details if you guys do decide to do some dirt,
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:31:50 EST MZO/O/UH No.611889 Reply
>>611888
Precisely.

Most of the policing around here is based off like I said sourcing, CP, and obvious blatant admissions of guilt. Watch policing of anonymous online bullying becoming the next big thing on here. I think that's when I will truly leave and never look back.nb
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lol - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:46:13 EST oaWRMjn3 No.611891 Reply
>>611889

Also it was a convenience store not a pharmacy, he flashed his bb gun to the cashier I believe. At least he has the sense not to load it or bring a real loaded one. Sure he would of got some years if it was a pharmacy. Nb
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 23:46:01 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.611900 Reply
>>611876
Over the past couple of years several research articles have come out based on /benz/ and /opi/ threads as well as other forums dedicated to benzodiazepines and opioids. Studies discussing self-tapering via diclazepam as a stand-in for diazepam, attitudes and trends of usage towards certain opioids of abuse versus another (e.g. tramadol versus oxycodone CR over time), and even a weird ass article about abusing loperamide to decrease opioid withdrawal and/or get high.
Other research has been collected regarding vendor trustworthiness over DNMs.

We should all be paranoid to an extent, but the data I have seen will at least only given minimally incriminating details about a study's widespread data collection (i.e. data from a popular image site's drug boards). People seem more interested in how posters interact with one another, what is posted, how posts are reacted to, general drug trends and usage, attitudes towards RC and Rx drugs, and self- or community "doctoring" on such forums. However, at least a couple of the articles I've run across were published by criminology journals, so who knows? Maybe we're all fucked in the end.
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Kekistan69 - Tue, 12 Nov 2019 00:20:55 EST JEt2x1Cb No.611901 Reply
>>611876
Nah, I don't think any of those agencies give a shit about what your average drug user is posting on forums like this. Only way they're gonna give a shit or look into anything you post is if you explicitly refer to a specific crime. I feel no risk at all I'm openly discussing simple drug usage on the internet. Millions of people do it everyday, they're too busy focusing on catching drug dealers/traffickers in real life to be regularly patrolling boards like this.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Tue, 12 Nov 2019 12:49:06 EST MZO/O/UH No.611909 Reply
>>611900
Can you show me any evidence of this? I'm genuinely curious
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 13 Nov 2019 02:42:09 EST 9v++/pcV No.611918 Reply
>>611909
Absolutely. I’m currently wrapping up two large projects for this week, so I likely won’t be able to post the articles until late Thursday to early Friday. If I haven’t posted the articles by the weekend, please bump this thread as a reminder for me.
Are you cool with just the citations and links to respective abstracts? I’m not sure if you have access to academic journals, but if you don’t hit me up on Discord.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:48:16 EST MZO/O/UH No.611921 Reply
>>611918
I certainly do no have access to academic journals. Fuck that makes me mad. The internet was created for the free sharing of information and yet all of the the published work of actual trained professionals with information edited by other educated professionals is not generally accessible to the majority of the public without a paid subscription. I'll have to look into Discord I have no idea what it is,
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Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Thu, 14 Nov 2019 02:44:57 EST 7Y8izlLY No.611936 Reply
>>611888
Yeah, you definitely do need to be careful. A bit after I started posting here regularly between some things I had said and some things in the pics I used to post put together of a long period of time and posts someone from here was able to track me down at work. Luckily it was friendly and nothing came of it but it could have easily went the other way. I don't talk about things like that now, anything from my past that could be an issue legally, or really anything outside general use and advice and things like that.
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Nicholas Dottingspear - Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:03:07 EST d+mOhw22 No.611944 Reply
I remember you, OP. Do you still have that grindcore yt channel?
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zombiej !ZcijO7gk.6 - Thu, 14 Nov 2019 23:29:44 EST /tldDCDL No.611954 Reply
>>611944

Hahahaha holy shit, you have a good memory... Yeah, haven't uploaded to it in years. Been focusing on porn and Minecraft. Been trying to get a legit amateur porn career going. I can't believe you remember my YT. Fucking great memory, man. Insane.
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Martha Sussleville - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 12:56:17 EST snSgovyU No.611958 Reply
>>611954
Yeah, I also remember you were one of the few that also liked tramadol like me, from like way back
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Caroline Brunnerman - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 14:15:46 EST mpIkCycT No.611959 Reply
>>611958
No one likes tramadol unless they cant get a handful of other opiates.

t. the biggest tramhead ever
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Fanny Bennerstone - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:41:13 EST e/Wd27Dr No.611961 Reply
>>611959
I agree but for example if I had to chose between codeine or tramadol id go with the trams
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Henry Faddleworth - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 20:17:17 EST mpIkCycT No.611963 Reply
>>611961
If I had to choose between APAP ridden codeine and tram I'd get the tram too, but assuming theres no limit on that idk mane, to each their own, for me 600mg of codeine always felt like 90mg of oral morph, which is good.
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Phoebe Crezzletedge - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 20:56:26 EST CE4tsIs0 No.611964 Reply
>>611963
For some reason I could never get really high on codeine, I used to get both OTC and always prefered tramadol for some reason it gets me higher and can, well could, actually catch a nod.
But yeah not hating on codeine either ☺
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Henry Faddleworth - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 21:27:20 EST mpIkCycT No.611965 Reply
>>611964
Tram I think I like it more on social settings, couple of er trams, beer and weed and you're ready to face any night.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 01:19:38 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.611966 Reply
>>611965
Tramadol is rather energizing. I felt more stimulation from trams than I did oxycodone IR and CR/XR.

I would avoid drinking on tramadol due to alcohol lower the threshold for seizures!
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 01:50:16 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.611968 Reply
>>611909
Yo, I am not the search now!

>>611921
Most individuals who are not students or university faculty members do NOT have access to academic databases. Which, I think we can all agreed is fucked. What rationale/justification, outside of needing money, just are another means for exploitation.
Discord links are at the top page of age all 420can boards. You will have to pick a username, password, and enter an email. I would strong dissuade you from using any personal email accounts. You can keep you username from 420chang (every does already), but make sure to have a throwaway email for security purposes.
Discord started as a means to have large chats over video games earlier this decade.

Accounts can be accessed within a browser, but also via app if that's more your style. Too, the app is available for mobile devices. 420can's Discord server(s) effectively replaced IRC any many ways, but IRC still exists and is hooked up to Discord for seamless communication. There's a bridge between IRC and Discord.
Expect the oncoming journal articles NOW!!!

He's where the link is. Just click it:
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Nathaniel Shakeway - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:48:58 EST 6DTNpgA+ No.611976 Reply
>>611966
It’s because it’s an SNRI but I’m sure you already knew that.
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Jenny Shakefuck - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 19:51:15 EST oyZ8ZLlE No.611977 Reply
>>611966
Didnt know that thanks, thought that because it sorta works like a benzo id help.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 08:27:00 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.611985 Reply
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>>611909
Discord is kind of like Skype, but on a grander scale. People who are big into online multiplayer games seem to almost worship the service. A lot of people can be brough together.

I had an account back during my undergrad (5 years ago now), but finally closed the old and opened a new account. Discord can be viewed through your browser, laptop/tablet/computer as a program, and also as an app for your phone.
420chan's Discord is ultra user friendly and Kirt managed to bridge the 420chan IRC with Discord, so several people are signed up there. Same rules apply: no sourcing, no CP at any point, etc.

PIc related as fuck. The link is on the top of each 420chan sub, but here's a cropped screenshot for convenience.

As for the research, well, check out the links. At minimum you should be able to view the abstract, title, authors, data and location of publication, which journal the item did/does belong to, and keywords. PDFs and full-text either have to be paid, in some manner, self-printed and a shit ton of copies being allowed

>YO, THANTS!! (peep the articles below)
Also, let me know if you want me to copy/pasta the abstracts as well. I have university access to all of the full length PDFs/articles, so I am not paying a cent. In fact, I am getting pair (tuition + two stipends directly deposit into accounts each month. Plus, I get a bonus at the first 1.5 months of each semester.
My bullshit aside, hit me up on Discord and I can send you any articles you're especially interested in. Oh, and before I forgot (/benzos/ and /opi/ ish going on right now). Be safe, Thants.

1) The research looks into the deep/dark web and how vendors become and maintain a sustainable repuation. Vendor trustworthiness was incredibly important. As per the article, most drug traffic from online markets come through well-known, well respected vendors.
Klein, B., White, A., Kavanagh, D., Shandley, K., Kay-Lambkin, F., Proudfoot, J., … Young, R. (2010). Content and functionality of alcohol and other drug websites: Results of an online survey. Journal of Medical Internet Research, 12(5), 62–73. https://0-doi-org.libus.csd.mu.edu/10.2196/jmir.1449

2) Opioid formula developments given the U.S.'s ongoing problems:
Alexander, L., Mannion, R. O., Weingarten, B., Fanelli, R. J., & Stiles, G. L. (2014). Development and impact of prescription opioid abuse deterrent formulation technologies. Drug and Alcohol Dependence, 138, 1–6. https://0-doi-org.libus.csd.mu.edu/10.1016/j.drugalcdep.2014.02.006

3. Dataset of 7 online drug forums, low usage of tapentadol hcl (Nucynta), and more. Nucynta still has its patent, so the drug wil expensive for everyone. It is a better drug from pain than tramdol, tbh.
McNaughton, E. C., Black, R. A., Weber, S. E., & Butler, S. F. (2015). Assessing abuse potential of new analgesic medications following market release: An evaluation of Internet discussion of tapentadol abuse. Pain Medicine, 16(1), 131–140. https://0-doi-org.libus.csd.mu.edu/10.1111/pme.12547

4) Montagne, M. (2011). Miracle Drug, Poison, or Placebo: Patients’’ Experiences With Antidepressant Medications as Described in Postings on an Online Message Board. Substance Use & Misuse, 46(7), 922–930. https://0-doi-org.libus.csd.mu.edu/10.3109/10826084.2011.570632

5) Månsson, J. (2014). A dawning demand for a new cannabis policy: A study of Swedish online drug discussions. International Journal of Drug Policy, 25(4), 673–681. https://0-doi-org.libus.csd.mu.edu/10.1016/j.drugpo.2014.04.001



Really though, lemme know if you need help accessing the full articles. Attached is the homepage of /opi/, so you should be able to sign up and register whenever (it's free). You can pick whatever username as long as it is available. Maybe get a less well-known email [or, get a brand new throwaway email for personal use) to associate with your logic. Pro tip.
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Emma Hattingville - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:08:35 EST vBUOIBuR No.611998 Reply
I don't post here as much. I used to post seed reviews with pics of my washes all the way back from 2012 until about 2 years ago during the first seedpocalypse as I felt I was adding too much visibility to the whole thing. I was using constantly from 2010-17 and obviously have posted a lot less while back to occasionally chipping.

I highly doubt that people have gotten nabbed by the man for posting about their (potentially fictitious) junkie lives on here as OP wonders.
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Panda the Fifth !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 23:32:52 EST vBUOIBuR No.612004 Reply
>>611985
Yo Katz... you might want to delete that pic... nb
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Alice Gockledale - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 11:13:27 EST 6DTNpgA+ No.612018 Reply
>>612013
>>612004
So people could pretend to be him, so what? It’s really not that big a deal. I don’t know who would even want to do so or what they would have to gain and it would still be pretty easy to tell if it wasn’t him especially if we start seeing Katz do out of character things like tell people to kill themself. Also it would be pretty obvious if we did see that and his writing style change up.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:30:10 EST 9v++/pcV No.612019 Reply
>>612004
I’ve reported the image twice to mods. Major lapse of judgment on my end. Fuck.

>>612013
Drugs and keep deprivation do not lead to good choices.

nb
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Ernest Wublingsedge - Mon, 25 Nov 2019 14:55:12 EST wBPrW/YB No.612156 Reply
>>612019
Was funny when kft on dis accidentally posted his trip & it got used slyly when he was commenting to put fake posts from him up n it resulted in a few days of lols
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Wesley Blagglestodge - Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:14:22 EST QLXwWTGx No.612159 Reply
The whole WWW. was pretty much an experiment of the Military lol.
They don't need to lurk. they have a bot taking care of that and only sending specific patterns of interest to the feds.
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Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:49:20 EST OIpQoQ2U No.612218 Reply
>>611876
Sup Zombie?? Been a hot minute. Hope all's good with you besides the stims lol

prolly all of the relevant alphabet agencies keep some sort of monitor on the site (and all the chans tbh). Stuff like CP, drug sales, etc.

>The internet never forgets and I suspect /opi/ has directly played a role in people that are likely doing bids right now...

Ven got mashed for robbing a fuckin grocery store with a pellet handgun for like $57 or some shit, just to get a piece of a fent patch. Came on here, posted his whole fuckin' face and the pellet gun, with the story of how he just robbed them for a strip. So yeah it was all his dumbass fault. Prolly a few others that weren't such big news. A lotta people talk a lotta shit on here and post pics.

>>611886
>Even people like Bombastus posting incredibly in-depth TEK's on how to convert codiene into hydromorph or hydromorph into Acetylmorphone probably isn't taken too seriously because who can validate the fact that it's true other than the person doing it themselves.

That and it's basically a matter of just paraphrasing existing patents that can be easily searched if you know what to ask google.

>>611891
He was in mega junkie mode, and in Canada. Good luck getting a real handgun there, much less somebody willing to do time to hit a lick for a strip of fent. Woulda sold it before he used it to rob somebody.

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