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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

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- Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:02:01 EST RBBN/9yH No.613799
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Someone dear to me is going to try to kick their heroin addiction and I want to be there to help them thru it. What can I expect, how can I make it easier, aaaaaand will he not want to have sex during this time? 😥 your suggestions, please. Thank you.
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Cedric Dadgemock - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 05:33:42 EST O5uX90f5 No.613810 Reply
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He will cum 10 times a day for a total of 15 minutes of sex
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Angus Pushville - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 07:34:10 EST 0SM1xflT No.613811 Reply
>>613810
Anything more than 15 minutes would not be very fun anymore I don't think. And I only asked that cuz I remember a bf that I had a long time ago said that kicking heroin makes u feel like u don't even want to be touched period. Like even to hold them while they are suffering.... is that true?
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Edwin Pubblefitch - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:20:20 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613819 Reply
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>>613811

Yeah you didnt get the joke, you didnt even bother to try to get it:

15 min of sex in 10 cums is like 1.5 minutes per fuck, pathetic, just like junkies in withdrawal.

Given that you very clearly some 15 yo thot I will not help you with any further inquiries.
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Shitting Fenningket - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:02:33 EST W90qOOis No.613823 Reply
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>>613819
>Given that you very clearly some 15 yo thot I will not help you with any further inquiries.

there is only one thing you could possibly be basing this off of lol, just cause your limp dope dick hasn't made a girl cum since the Obama administration doesn't mean you have to sperg out
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Fanny Povingbat - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:33:56 EST Y6CX225A No.613829 Reply
>>613819

Well excuse ME! Considering that this is my 1st post to this site in general(aaaaaand I'll admit that said joke passed over my head so high I could have jumped and still not caught it...no literally. Ur right. I didn't even break it down to actually appreciate the lack of helpfulness his comment contained. ) that being said, I am NOT 15 yrs old... I'm 29 if u must know*cry* AND most certainly am NOT a whore! In fact, the person I mentioned in my original post is everything a boyfriend is without him being my official boyfriend yet! But hopefully soon..... *starry eyes* one might say im in LOVE, dammit!! That's right, I said it!! And I came to this forum in hopes that I may learn something to help the one that I love out of a dire situation... so if you or anyone could actually give me a REAL piece of advice (and by advise I mean any information or tip that would deem helpful to our situation, or anything that's not just an insult) would most certainly be appreciated. thank you.
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Fanny Povingbat - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:36:23 EST Y6CX225A No.613830 Reply
>>613819
>>613819

Well excuse ME! Considering that this is my 1st post to this site in general(aaaaaand I'll admit that said joke passed over my head so high I could have jumped and still not caught it...no literally. Ur right. I didn't even break it down to actually appreciate the lack of helpfulness his comment contained. ) that being said, I am NOT 15 yrs old... I'm 29 if u must know*cry* AND most certainly am NOT a whore! In fact, the person I mentioned in my original post is everything a boyfriend is without him being my official boyfriend yet! But hopefully soon..... *starry eyes* one might say im in LOVE, dammit!! That's right, I said it!! And I came to this forum in hopes that I may learn something to help the one that I love out of a dire situation... so if you or anyone could actually give me a REAL piece of advice (and by advise I mean any information or tip that would deem helpful to our situation, or anything that's not just an insult) would most certainly be appreciated. thank you.
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Opppp - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:38:43 EST Y6CX225A No.613831 Reply
>>613819

Well excuse ME! Considering that this is my 1st post to this site in general(aaaaaand I'll admit that said joke passed over my head so high I could have jumped and still not caught it...no literally. Ur right. I didn't even break it down to actually appreciate the lack of helpfulness his comment contained. ) that being said, I am NOT 15 yrs old... I'm 29 if u must know*cry* AND most certainly am NOT a whore! In fact, the person I mentioned in my original post is everything a boyfriend is without him being my official boyfriend yet! But hopefully soon..... *starry eyes* one might say im in LOVE, dammit!! That's right, I said it!! And I came to this forum in hopes that I may learn something to help the one that I love out of a dire situation... so if you or anyone could actually give me a REAL piece of advice (and by advise I mean any information or tip that would deem helpful to our situation, or anything that's not just an insult) would most certainly be appreciated. thank you.

Goddamn it how do I use this site!!
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Wesley Dunkinkot - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 19:17:05 EST W90qOOis No.613836 Reply
>>613829
>>613830
>>613831
I wouldn't be bothered by those guys. We're thots by virtue of being women, well not even, you never said you were specifically, they just kind of assumed.

Bluelight is a much more helpful welcoming community, we used to be more like it but in recent times we've had an influx of posters from other chans

As for what you can expect it depends on how he's going about quitting. If he goes on methadone it will be an incredibly long process and there's a chance he just won't ever kick the methadone, and a lot of people myself included would say there's nothing really wrong with that. Suboxone therapy would be slightly more difficult in terms of withdrawal symptoms but the prognosis is better in terms of one day being completely clean. Otherwise simply tapering off is the best option, with as long a regiment as humanly possible, months and months, it depends on how severe his habit is. I strongly recommend against quitting cold turkey, lowest chance of success and highest chance of lasting health problems. From what I've seen in people I've known, the best way to do it is to step down routes of administration first from injecting to insufflation to oral (at the oral stage I would switch to a different opiate since heroin's oral bio-availability is really crap) and then gradually reduce the dose, then switching to progressively lighter opioids. If he thinks he can do it without giving himself another problem, benzodiazepines help during this process a lot, as does gabapentin. I had a friend who went from shooting up several bags a day to snorting one or two down to a few roxys, then to kratom then nothing. She was on diazepam for the first week and then gabapentin the rest of the time.

Outpatient programs and support groups are also an invaluable tool. NA is a cult but there are things like SMART recovery, partial hospitalization/intensive outpatient programs
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Fuck Chellerstock - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:28:24 EST HI0mv18t No.613839 Reply
>>613838
>>613814
>>613800
I admire your dedication to making sure everyone on the opiates board on a Canadian wrestling website knows you have a tiny penis
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Angus Cungerdure - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 00:10:34 EST IxGcrMpY No.613843 Reply
>>613839
embarrassing thats the only ad hominem females can muster -- at sex u bad

Theres a ton of threads about this currently on opi. Essentially feed him loperamide diarrhea pills like 4-12mg/day for a few days. Kicking dope sucks but its really not bad if done right.
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Lydia Crungermatch - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 00:11:44 EST dr038sas No.613844 Reply
Wow the assholes in here really need to fucking get high or get off this board with the negativity
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Phoebe Mummlepack - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 00:31:46 EST QUtz9SYl No.613846 Reply
>>613799
Well, treat the physiological symptoms as they present themselves. You basically have to keep him alive until his body finishes self-repairing. Go see a real fucking doctor for that.

Afterwards you should get together and try to figure out what needs of his he was trying to meet by taking heroin, aside from the obvious physiological needs. Then he has to find new ways to get his needs met without taking heroin.
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Beatrice Decklepun - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 10:12:42 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613852 Reply
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>>613830
>>613829
>>613831

aight theres a lot of text and im sort of getting a seizure in my 4k monitor.

He might not wanna fuck the first days but later he wont stop wanting to, hence my cum joke.



>>613838

keep mirin horsie
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Beatrice Decklepun - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 10:14:05 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613853 Reply
>>613852 > >>613836

did an upsie there, he is most definitely right nb
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Opppp - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:02:30 EST 0CsxKAvw No.613854 Reply
>>613836

Wow thank you sooo much! Your comment was super helpful and thank you for taking the time to reply! That Gabapentin you were talking about, is it something that a doctor prescribes you have never heard of it before. Oh yeah and I am a girl LOL. Thanks again you made my post totally worth it I appreciate all the support!
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Beatrice Decklepun - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:30:28 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613855 Reply
>>613854
I dont think it was me mentioning gabapent, and yes its a prescription only substance if thats what you mean, frankly I dont know what you need to fake to get it, I pass my turn to dr m
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Beatrice Decklepun - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 16:50:51 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613859 Reply
>>613855
Oh shit lmao nb
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Fuck Chellerstock - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:16:38 EST HI0mv18t No.613860 Reply
>>613843
Lope for withdrawal is a terrible fucking idea though unless its literally your only option
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m - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:14:18 EST vgHBTjMI No.613862 Reply
>>613860
not really, no. Lope is just fine, quite safe, and effective. The issue is when people exceed about ~24mg in any one day, ~20mg/day for over like ~5-10 days, or over 16mg or so per day for a few weeks. It really only messes up the QT interval and heart health hardcore when people take megadoses of it. There's really no reason on Earth to exceed 24mg on any particular day, or 16mg/day once you're past day ~3-4.5 for short acting opis or day ~5-10 or so for methadone, strong PST/PPT, or possibly high dose subutex.

If you take 24mg (never all at once...always 4+ hours between 2-8mg doses) and it's still "not enough," stop taking lope and just force down some kratom, preferably in 00 capsules.

Taking fucking 100mg of lope like the OP in that other thread just delays the withdrawal and resets the dependency clock.
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Rebecca Toothood - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 13:16:25 EST JD/7JWNJ No.613968 Reply
>>613862
Strong disagree on the “safe” part. There are much better options to consider than poisoning yourself and possibly causing cardiac damage with a hero dose of an OTC drug. You’d be better off getting on subs and doing a short term taper if anything.

Source:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/15563650.2014.969371
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019606441630052X
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/15563650.2016.1159310
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Archie Buzzwater - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 15:47:15 EST fncd//z5 No.613969 Reply
Yea lope is terribly toxic and should be avoided, Gabapentin at 300mg-600mg twice daily is great for taking the edge off without trading one addiction for the other. Benzodiazepines, like 20mg valium a day, should be avoided to avoid trading addiction for addiction, but will really help take the edge off too.

Clonodine is an absolute godsend for taking care of the physical side, but it may be hard to get a script for.
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m - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 15:56:30 EST vgHBTjMI No.613972 Reply
>>613968
Subs cause precip WD and lope doesn't. One is available on store shelves and the other requires a connect. They're not really comparable. If you can hop on subs within just 24-48hr of using, then it's debatable whether your dependency is even that bad. When subs aren't an option and kratom won't cut it, lope is the only easy to access option.

I specifically said doses of 16mg or less/day spread out, NOT "hero" doses. It's not like you're forced to take 100mg like an idiot.

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