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Opiates vs Benzos (which is worse)

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- Wed, 26 Feb 2020 09:49:18 EST eHTflFIT No.613813
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Which addiction/withdrawal is worse comparing oxy orally and benzo? Also after long term use which of these two causes the least depletion of the natural endorphins / opiod receptor / gaba receptor etc. oxy is pretty hardcore i suppose it wrecks the natural endorphins a lot more than benzo?
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Charles Cluddleshaw - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 12:06:51 EST cx5MLq0l No.613815 Reply
Withdrawal is way worse from benzos and benzos lead to terrible decisions, but it's far cheaper to support a benzo habit than a dope/opi habit and opiates feel way better. Kinda comparing apples and oranges, but I'd say dope ruins you financially and benzos just ruin you over time.
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m - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 19:32:03 EST vgHBTjMI No.613901 Reply
>>613813
Opioids ruin your endorphin system the most, but benzos trash your gaba receptors the most. They do two different things. In general, opioid WD/dependence/PAWS causes worse depression and apathy, but benzos cause infinitely worse rebound anxiety, chronic anxiety, and chronic insomnia.

Benzo PAWS tends to last way longer than Opioid PAWS, and is generally more severe. Benzo WD is also way worse, and is way way more likely to kill you. In fact, only benzo WD can directly kill you. Opioid WD can only kill you indirectly.
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Eliza Dedgewater - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:50:35 EST IoWIX3T+ No.613902 Reply
Benzo withdrawals can kill you and cause seizures.
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m - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 22:46:20 EST vgHBTjMI No.613904 Reply
>>613903
Yes they do, you're absolutely right. My worst time CTing from UK 2016 PST I slept over 3 or 4 hours for the first 13 entire days. That being said, opioid WD caused insomnia is usually a shorter acute phase. I'm not saying it's great sleep in either case, just that severe benzodiazepine WD can sometimes be months of under 4-6hr or sleep and always feeling like the sleep you did get was garbage.
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driven !FTPgBqDDy. - Sun, 01 Mar 2020 16:41:15 EST gdYQopVn No.613939 Reply
benzo wd i would NEVER do again but opiates fuck it's like once a week almost lol. seizures are fucking traumatic
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Reuben Nishfoot - Mon, 02 Mar 2020 15:06:30 EST SUNa8wVi No.613952 Reply
>>613939
Pretty much this. Once you've experienced seizures there's not much opi WD can throw at you. Plus if you buy enough k to last a week then opi WD can be downright fun
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Graham Pendlebury - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 05:24:07 EST gE8yyxax No.614042 Reply
>>613952
If you have a small dissociative toleramce

Which most of us dont
Because it takes fucking yearssss to go down and mxe happened

K is best for the worse parts of w.d, hell yeah. 1 to 2 hour relief from everything

But if you have any toleramce you realllllyyy quickly get resistant again
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Lillian Tillingworth - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 19:12:50 EST OHIHxMID No.614051 Reply
A heavy Opi addiction -> CT you will want to kill your self
A heavy benzo addiction -> CT will kill you

You can get through a lot of bad opi WDs alone but w/ benz you’ll have to taper and if you don’t have the stuff to you’ll probably end up hospitalized if not dead

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