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Why opiates

- Thu, 21 May 2020 05:23:32 EST Mjy8E5PD No.615309
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Why do some people gravitate towards opiates? I've tried every drug under the sun and nothing does it for me quite like heroin. And then I know other people who really don't like opiates too much and are more meth freaks. Must be a personality thing wonder how it works.
Jarvis Pettingnot - Thu, 21 May 2020 08:31:09 EST OjvfybaZ No.615313 Reply
Lets evaluate our viable options:

-Stim enthusiast: always on the verge of a heart attack, sleeps every third day for 5 hours and is constantly paranoid about shadow people.

-Psychedelic enthusiast: we've all been here, we arent 17 anymore.

-Dissociative enthusiasts: viable alternative but lacks that euphoria, we'd find more peace in /stim/.

-MDMA enthusiasts: we're too alone and antisocial to enjoy that, plus the crash sucks dick.

-Delirant enthusiasts: sadomasochism.

-Benztards: us but more retarded.
Betsy Dannerwut - Fri, 22 May 2020 15:33:49 EST OjvfybaZ No.615327 Reply
ket is the only disso remotely ''euphoric'' (and you know I am stretching the word)
Polly Pockstock - Fri, 22 May 2020 15:41:21 EST LayqJrZl No.615328 Reply
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>Comparing the euphoria of oxyocodone or heroin to anything disso
Angus Wovingridge - Fri, 22 May 2020 15:54:14 EST bcSUzcVv No.615330 Reply
disso euphoria is the lack of feeling and therefore feels good as opposed to an opiate which feels good by feeling good, absence of pain is pleasure and they both blablabla
lol - Fri, 22 May 2020 16:09:36 EST IggaRoSW No.615331 Reply
Me too, I didn't hate them when I used to do them but It was only when others brought them around. If the euphoria I get from say good dope is a 10 then then the euphoria I get from something like ketamine is like a 4. I always thought those sort of drugs were considered more of an experience rather than feel good.
Phineas Gozzledet - Sat, 23 May 2020 21:59:57 EST bj8s2ro/ No.615367 Reply
The glitter kinda fades once you've done them for a while, after I turned 19 I stopped even being interested in them.
Phineas Gozzledet - Sat, 23 May 2020 22:17:09 EST bj8s2ro/ No.615369 Reply
depression and anxiety disappear pretty much instantly and it acts as a mood stabilizer too so I end up feeling very relaxed and clear headed, almost more than normally.
Hamilton Nommerson - Sun, 24 May 2020 18:14:13 EST wPVuI1TH No.615380 Reply

Try heroin and cocaine together...

It makes heroin on its own totally "meh" and coke on it's own is great for 2-3 shots then it turns into a disgusting fiendfest, stabbing youself ever 20 minutes till it's all gone, the high getting less and less, the side effects greater, telling yourself this is retarded and pointless, but continuing to stab yourself over and over until it's all gone and you're wired to the tits with no landing gear, which sucks.

But together...wow. 2 + 2 = 200 in this case. It really is something special. They both complement each other perfectly and get rid of most of the others side effects. Once I shot a speedball, I never willingly used either on their own again.

I'm was very much like you in that I did loads of different drugs, but opiates were my number 1 choice, stims were meh to me (though I did really like 6-APB and MDMA on occasion) bnut combining a stim + opi makes the perfect drug experience. I quit using 2 years ago, but even thinking of a speedball ramps my heartrate up. Thank fuck for methadone
Hugh Backlesutch - Fri, 29 May 2020 07:55:41 EST SPJmS0+u No.615434 Reply
I like them because I can function on opiates. Until I get into the throes of addiction and sleep all day with a massive tolerance...
nz !!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 29 May 2020 08:23:15 EST 8wkjRbIb No.615435 Reply
It's because something clicks. We seek to modify ourselves. To sate some sort of desire, to fix an imbalance. It's a complex thing. I firmly believe people are of two types when it comes to an opiates or meth. You can take it or leave it. Some can. Others try it and it's like "OH so that's what I've been meant to be feeling" or "This must be what everyone always feels like
Eugene Sodgewater - Sat, 30 May 2020 17:36:09 EST 5b8+ES5t No.615459 Reply
Opes should be viewed as a timekiller and nothing else, even if its tempting to make a lifestyle out of them nb
Rebecca Tillingbury - Sat, 30 May 2020 23:21:40 EST Gq+FJTcZ No.615469 Reply
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Depressed people typically prefer meth and people with anxiety disorders gravitate towards opiates.
Rebecca Hullylock - Sun, 31 May 2020 14:17:30 EST HtswKv4Q No.615474 Reply
Thats literally my favorite form of oxys, 20s are pink tho not yellow, those are the fives. Also that anxiety theory is interesting, got anything to back it up?
curious /psy/guy - Tue, 02 Jun 2020 04:54:25 EST 1t/OE150 No.615487 Reply
As a /psy/guy who has had the displeasure/pleasure of dealing with opiate addicts and their lifestyles to find my drugs, I would characterize the average opiate user as someone with a spiritual darkness that shrouds their soul- It’s satanic in a sense; The opiate user is pushed to crave deceit and theft by virtue of those being the proxies in which they acquire more opiates.
lol - Tue, 02 Jun 2020 07:14:19 EST IggaRoSW No.615490 Reply
You're absolutely the type of person who would post on /psy/
Martin Drungerville - Tue, 02 Jun 2020 08:49:18 EST OjvfybaZ No.615492 Reply
>I would characterize the average opiate user as someone with a spiritual darkness that shrouds their soul
Maybe, but not in the way you're picturing it.

>virtue of those being the proxies in which they acquire more opiates.
If I could I would get them from a pharmacy with some decency, you asshole.
m - Wed, 03 Jun 2020 16:47:14 EST jv0zZnW9 No.615506 Reply
Yes it's true that two/three drug classes tend to both draw in first time users and hook longtime addicts that have specific predispositions. Benzos tend to "hook" those with anxiety disorders/guilt/self-loathing more than others. Many people in this demographic are also drawn to opioids for many of the same reasons, though I'd argue that opioids are more attractive for severely depressed people than benzos.

I'm not sure if I agree that "depressed" people as a whole are attracted to stimulants. I'd say it's moreso people with issues like anhedonia, excess fatigue, excessive sleep, or obesity. Some depressed people definitely are, but not most. Maybe people that are more impulsive naturally tend to seek out stimulants that self-reinforce said impulsive behavior, e.g. behavior related to accumbal ∆FOSB overexpression (sex, gambling, compulsive shopping/shoplifting, etc.).

Maybe it's just my biases getting in the way about stimulants. They were never my favorites (opi are my #1 by far, #2 probably benzos/barbs, #3 tie between other various downers, stimulants like amph/d-amph, and others, followed by alcohol), and even after being on relatively high dose d-amph IR for almost two years now, I rarely fiend for them and never really feel any euphoria.

People take benzos/opioids to block negative feelings, and for opioids to experience comfy euphoria. It's nothing like psychedelic "discovery"/adventure. Opioids/benzos/stimulants for that matter are more predictable effects wise than say cannabis.

Just don't jump on your high horse and consider psychedelics/dissociatives as being somehow superior to opioids/dissociatives. They're not really comparable.
OctopusWulf ὁ9 ὃa - Fri, 05 Jun 2020 04:12:54 EST XvZ81YTx No.615527 Reply
I think it offers complete escape from negative feelings. Like no matter your problems on opiates everything is awesome and exactly as it should be. They help me fpcis more than atoms do to.
Lydia Goshkug - Sat, 06 Jun 2020 11:04:23 EST bj8s2ro/ No.615562 Reply
I get the sense you have a warped perception of what different drugs really are. Psys and weed aren't comparable to opiates even slightly, the feeling is obviously different but its more than that, when someone properly utilizes psys they might have a spiritual moment, realize something new about themselves or the world, because you suddenly become bombarded with different perspectives and thoughts even if in reality they aren't very deep or meaningful, when someone properly utilizes opiates they can instead quiet their mind, find true clarity and peace. Each one attracts a very different type of person who are seeking to correct different types of imbalances. And before you try to retreat to your ivory tower we both know psychs can be just as dangerous as opiates, you might not be old enough to have seen it all play out yet but I've seen enough people shatter their minds with psychs triggering serious schizoid-personality or dissociative disorders to develope to know they shouldn't be taken so lightly. It is probably hard to understand without having tried both as for me itleast when I was doing each one I was seeking to relieve opposite imbalances.
Edwin Brookworth - Sat, 06 Jun 2020 13:08:37 EST E0KfJmYB No.615563 Reply
I liked opiares because they make you feel good and not ‘drunk’. At least until you develop a massive tolerance and extremely large doses. The sad truth though is they only work temporarily... if only tolerance didn’t exist

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