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PST general: where is the general you assholes edition

- Wed, 17 Jun 2020 12:30:05 EST NVDL4q8W No.615743
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Making a PST general because there seems to be no PST general on 420chan today

you know the rules

>no sourcing
>no cutesy using code/slang to source and then being all like "I wasn't sourcing bro lol"

good nods and euphoria to all
Nathaniel Pettingville - Thu, 18 Jun 2020 20:41:27 EST 29QbCoeq No.615790 Reply
>no explaining how to make pst

Any tea heads still get dank seed? Or is it mostly shit most of the year?
Basil Siffingpure - Tue, 23 Jun 2020 10:49:15 EST NVDL4q8W No.615896 Reply
correction: I actually think the whole five min stir shit is after you do whatever you do on the stove. Note: Im pretty sure you can do a batch without even using the fucking stove but I'm retarded so don't take my word on that.
Basil Siffingpure - Tue, 23 Jun 2020 11:08:48 EST NVDL4q8W No.615897 Reply
actually I just realized that I might be breaking the rules by posting this. fuck. mods pls no permaban I'm just retarded I swear.
Albert Ducklechidge - Tue, 23 Jun 2020 11:58:21 EST 3StxZJ3M No.615899 Reply
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>Task Bar on the left side of the screen
Cedric Cicklehet - Tue, 23 Jun 2020 12:02:21 EST VvZqTspG No.615900 Reply
thats the right. my shit is set the same to avoid it popping up in some game or another
Blinkey Bill - Fri, 26 Jun 2020 01:27:33 EST wwZazo7R No.615962 Reply
australia has some dank seeds atm. has me feeling nice atm on 400grams. dark brown wash.
m - Fri, 26 Jun 2020 16:00:58 EST jv0zZnW9 No.615966 Reply
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All, basically all seeds available in North America are now 100% garbage. All the UK dank are now unobtainable through any known large retail vendors. It's gone complete dead and underground.

There's a grand total of one vendor that sells what is likely old dank UK vintage seed mixed among Spanish and Australian seed filler in a commcercial-sized industrial mixture. He sells that concoction for roughly ~$25-35/lb or more depending on the "type," which is absolutely all lies and just a different in mixture ratio.

Another two vendors sell old "big 3" UK origin bags for CRAZY CRAZY prices, like I'm talking a 3lb bag for ~$100-180 shipped. They're not even good bags in terms of "Big 3" standard.

The online scene is effectively dead, and the one semi-reliable UK or partially UK source keeps upping his prices more and more.

The only real way forward is PPT, not PST (assuming you want the absolutely amazing potency that was readily available from late 2013 to Dec '16 or Jan '17). It just doesn't exist. There might be decent Spanish sources that you can buy bulk 25/50/75/100lb cases for at a total gamble of like ~$2-3.50/lb, but you'll have to literally double/triple/quadruple wash the seeds to get anything remotely usable for recreational purposes.

The one PST scene I can NOT speak on is the Aus local scene whatsoever. However, be warned, as Aus seeds have by far the highest thebaine/thebaine metabolites on a morphine:other alkaloid ratio basis.

IF, IF you are someone out there with "Big 3" seeds from UK , EVEN if they're nearly garbage for washing purposes...PLEASE PLEASE keep them stashed away, even if it's just 1-4oz of seed. We as a community NEED those for future planting. I've never had better pods in my life.

I have one friend who thankfully listened to my request and has something like 1 or 2lb of Big 3, even if it's the traditionally weakest yet cheapest of the Big 3 contenders (you all know the one). Hopefully he'll save at least a few ounces for people like us in the future so we can keep the genetics alive.

It was a good run you guys. I'd post the potency contents but it would be considered sourcing (even if 95%+ of the vendors are now defunct). Just remember that the avergae potency among a few dozen samples of Big 3 was straight up ~1200-2788mg of morphine per kg, morphine ALONE.

If someone out there can keep those genetics alive, then this little fringe hobby group has a chance to bring back the good shit, even just for personal use. Imagine PST with a potency of ~1500-2000mg morphine equivalent per lb when factoring in all other alkaloids combined.

Anyone else want to chime in on how things used to be? My fellow veteran seed heads in Discords etc. never came across a single UK bag remotely up to old fire par standards in all of 2018, 2019, and only three batches in 2017 (two with 5/18 and 5/31 2018 dates sold in 2017 by the...genuine company, and one around end of '17 new years from the...collectively possessed company)

Mods: my post gives nothing away. These companies are all completely defunct and out of the business for good. There's no "slang" to protect people from. PST is dead apart from one dude who overcharges, has underpowered stock, and will seriously get raided by the DEA any week now.
Blinkey Bill - Sat, 27 Jun 2020 02:18:53 EST tNQC2Ek5 No.615974 Reply
I am fully aware of this fact about Australian produced seeds. They are the biproduct of a pharmaceutically altered plant high in thebaine, for the purposes of making OxyContin and others semi synthetic opiates.
I just did a 400 gram wash, this is my second dose of the say. The first dose was of around 400mg too. Any way 20 minutes after this most recent dose I throw up. It was like how I threw up after sniffing heroin. I am very high, I have never been so intoxicated. This is by far the strongest PST I've had . Different recipe. Lit seed sit in water for 10 min and the lightly shake for five min with maybe half a minute of vigorouse agitation gave me the strongest end product.ive yet to experience. It was "milky for lack of a better.term but it was a small price to pay for the trademark upset tummy for the strongest opium high I've experienced.
If you are from Aus you are sure to know who this vendor is
Oliver Fuckingwater - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 15:25:07 EST PgkzCgd+ No.616031 Reply
This crap made me shit green for three solid months
Panda_5 - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 13:25:08 EST vBUOIBuR No.616035 Reply
You shoulda seen the summer 2014 batch. '14-15 were the best years and it was only like $2.75 a pound.
I used so much back then I'd puke and get heart palpitations when I went into withdrawals.
John Pingerbure - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 17:02:55 EST Ht8q9Aci No.616036 Reply
was around for the golden age, i remember doing 100-200g of the fire seeds would have me high for 12 hours and thats with tolerance
Phyllis Cirringfick - Wed, 01 Jul 2020 21:34:48 EST rGU6Hn7Z No.616040 Reply
I'm in NZ, getting straight fire seeds in local shops. It's insane, probably better than anything I found (online) while in aus.

That said, they seem to be real inconsistent, even amongst the same batch. I've been changing up my preparation recipe whenever it seems like it stops working, and that helps kinda? Some preps seem better than others, but nothing has been consistent.

Anyone got tips on prepping aus seeds? Gonna try
>sit in water for 10 min and the lightly shake for five min

Have been doing hot water + lemon juice then shaking intensely for a couple minutes, wondering if the inconsistent/bad washes were just me not shaking enough (or long enough).

And food/high fat meals? What actually counts for this? 'Cause I eat fuck all so 'high fat meal' is basically out of the question. Is a spoonful of high fat peanut butter enough? Does it help to eat first (in the morning) before dosing, to get the metabolism going?

If any of this breaks the rules, well fuck, just ban me I cbf dancing around these vague ass rules.
Alice Busslefield - Fri, 03 Jul 2020 00:24:04 EST 29QbCoeq No.616048 Reply
In the name of harm prevention: you only need 3-5 minutes + vigorous agitating/shaking per wash. And then 2-3 washes depending on quality of seed. I wouldnt let the seeds be exposed to water longer than 15 minutes total unless you want to pick up more noxious seed oils. Also use room temperature, tepid at warmest water. Distilled water might help too if you own a distiller (cheap and great).
I used to enjoy eating a nice, fatty meal after come up as well. Peanut butter is fine, or preferably coconut oil...long as youre used to eating oil like that and wont upset your gi system.
Glad to hear some stores still care about selling quality products.
Polly Blobblebidge - Sat, 04 Jul 2020 18:04:24 EST rGU6Hn7Z No.616066 Reply
Awesome, thanks bro. That's pretty much what I've been doing (3 -5 min vigorous wash, hot/warm water from tap).

I finally figured out though, it's slowly been switched over to a new batch (that would've been mixed in with the fire) and im 95% sure this batch is just codeine and nothing else. Lasts only a few hours and wasn't doing anything for my tolerance.

On the plus side, that pretty much forced a taper. Just got all my regular prescriptions renewed (after covid etc) so will probably just drop seeds for a few months and see if this store gets anything decent back.
Augustus Honeyspear - Sat, 04 Jul 2020 21:20:28 EST pCefaFLE No.616069 Reply
What version PST thread is this now?
Wasnt it up to V12?
Esther Drorrysudging - Sun, 05 Jul 2020 18:03:59 EST g+eFByTr No.616081 Reply
How come nobody makes food with poppy seed paste to get high? Pst is highly disgusting you'd think people would just grind the seeds and mix with some sugar etc assuming it works the same.
Panda_5 - Sun, 05 Jul 2020 18:37:00 EST waTiBjJM No.616082 Reply
>PST is highly disgusting.
You either wash too long or haven't eaten/drank anywhere near as many drug potions as I have.
Also, just mix in some juice and a lil' liquor before you sip. Problem solved, PST mixed draaaank.
Esther Drorrysudging - Sun, 05 Jul 2020 18:57:21 EST g+eFByTr No.616083 Reply
Making poppy seed paste into pastries should technically work though right? It just feels less anti-social to drink the foul brown liquid than to eat a pastry and "accidentally" get high. I got my seeds from the bulk bin at the grocery store. They haven't started washing those ones yet have they?
Jenny Clayfoot - Sun, 05 Jul 2020 20:04:34 EST waTiBjJM No.616086 Reply
Dog, I used to drink PST at work ffs... just don't let ppl drink your drink.
Emma Grandhall - Sun, 05 Jul 2020 21:19:51 EST rGU6Hn7Z No.616088 Reply

Yeah wtf, I take my daily dose (mixed into gfj in the standard bottle) every day. People just think I really like grapefruit juice, and in 5 years nobody has ever asked for some
The Tea Monster - Tue, 07 Jul 2020 12:22:45 EST 6yrK7/Lp No.616104 Reply

So I have found a source for pods. They are reasonably priced, and look beautiful, and are supposedly excellent quality. The problem is I have no clue how to properly make them. My most recent attempt, I ground up 10 to 12 pods in a coffee grinder boiled some water on the stove let it cool for a minute then added in the pod powder. And I let this simmer for about 20 minutes stirring frequently. Finally I poured the entire concussion through a strainer bag and squeezed all the extra liquid out of it. I wound up with a huge cup of foul tasting greenish brown liquid, but it didn't really seem to do much for me. What am I doing wrong? I've searched and searched online for the best method, but I haven't really found anything since pods haven't been a thing for a while now.
Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Tue, 07 Jul 2020 13:30:53 EST vBUOIBuR No.616105 Reply
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I've been doing this for 11 years now (used to be $35 / pound) and I will tell you how to do it right, but it is somewhat gross to drink and you'll have to prepare it right so as not to gag/puke.

  • Remove the crowns, seeds, and bottom 'knobs'. Also the inner ribs if you want to reduce plant matter. Any with mold you can discard, but I just pick out the mold.
  • Put all of the 'wall' matter that you have left in a coffee grinder and grind until it is the finest powder possible, you may require multiple loads.
  • Mix the powder into a flavored beverage. Juice (white grapefruit is everyone's fav), water w/ flavoring, beer, cola, whatever. Stir the fuck out of it until it is a thick slurry, but not so thick that you'll gag. Maybe add some liquor if you're a degenerate (I do).
  • Drink the slurry with all the pod powder inside. If you're prone to gagging, have a fresh soda ready to chase the shit down with.
  • Wait an hour and if you got a good dose for your tolerance, you'll be high as fuck for hours.

No boiling, no filtering, just grind the walls until they are a fine powder, mix into a drink, and down that shit over the course of 2-15 minutes. This way you get all of the opium and don't destroy any. I've done this, again, for over a decade and it's never made me sick even when I include moldy pods. You may want to eat a small snack 15 min before doing this as it gets your digestive system going without diluting it.

Pods vary in quality by A LOT so watch out on the dosage, darker walls are the best, especially if you can see the dark spots from the inside. You can germinate and plant the seeds of the best pods if you want. Beware, pod withdrawals are worse and longer than heroin withdrawals so watch out if you take them every day for weeks on end like I do.

Hail Satan and bitch up!
Thomas Handlehood - Tue, 07 Jul 2020 19:32:42 EST Ht8q9Aci No.616109 Reply
my tried and true recipe is 10g pod per 100ml boiling water and add half a lemon or lime to the whole tea
Panda_5 - Tue, 07 Jul 2020 20:53:26 EST vBUOIBuR No.616111 Reply
With my recipie you get all the alkaloids. Yours burns a lot off.
Clara Clerryway - Tue, 07 Jul 2020 22:38:26 EST rGU6Hn7Z No.616113 Reply
Update on this, after months of local stores having fire seeds it seems it's back to normal, was enough to force a taper that went surprisingly smoothly. Amount dosed stayed pretty consistent throughout but of course quality dropped, helping the unintentional taper.

Currently day 3 sober and barely felt any WD. My point is, if you want to taper consider switching to weaker seeds. I never found success tapering with the same seeds because I'd always find an excuse to add a little more. Hard to do that when there's a limit on how you can get via quality of seeds.

The Tea Monster - Wed, 08 Jul 2020 14:18:05 EST 6yrK7/Lp No.616119 Reply
I hope to God you are not trolling me, because this is what I'm going to try! It sounds disgusting, but if you say it works best I'm willing to give it a try since even 10 to 12 good size pods left me wanting with the boiling method. maybe my tolerance is just too high these days, but everyone says these pods are fantastic, and they are all covered with dark, which is supposed to be good... Hopefully I get some better results from your method. Thanks for the response!
Panda_5 - Wed, 08 Jul 2020 14:58:33 EST vBUOIBuR No.616122 Reply
Have fun with it. It takes a while to prepare but you get all of the alkaloids that way.
I'm over 2 weeks clean but am feenin hard. Gotta save some dough.
The Tea Monster - Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:15:23 EST 6yrK7/Lp No.616147 Reply
Just FYI, there is a new US vendor these past few months that I will not name, but if you just Google it you should be able to find them. The name is fairly obvious. They have the best quality UK seeds I've had in some time... Certainly this year. And for the next 72 hours they are having a sale for only $13.99 a pound, which is amazing compared to everyone else with active seeds. I've been using this guy for the last couple months, and while he has some shipping delays, overall I've been very happy with both the price and the quality. Worth checking out!
Edward Bunwater - Sat, 11 Jul 2020 18:27:34 EST 29QbCoeq No.616149 Reply
Warning: PST might damage reading comprehension ability
Edward Bunwater - Sat, 11 Jul 2020 18:38:14 EST 29QbCoeq No.616150 Reply
>just don't let ppl drink your drink.
GF's dad and (cool) uncle were visiting, as was my friend who is straight but takes opiates/psys when I offer (even smokes h so mad respect for him).
Have fire 2015 pst ice cubes ready to go for discreet doping. Threw some raw eggs in the blender like a champ, threw in some other supplements and fire ice cubes. Asked my friend if he wanted some, says yes. Cool uncle comes over outta nowhere, pickups raw egg-pst brew and drinks it, then asks whats in here.
Being a cool uncle I dont think he's any stranger to opiates so he probably had a good time.
m - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 07:52:25 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616170 Reply
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How much does he normally charge? I know the vendor you're talking about, but am just curious as to how much his default rates are. A few local friends of mine have asked me to brew up some of that "good shit" like I used to do years ago without telling them the source directly (so they wouldn't get hooked), but between being "clean" on bupe maintenance and the ridiculous ~$30+/lb pricing for so long, I always told them it's not possible.

Do they even really compare with the old UK Big 3? I fear these types of sellers straight up lie about their countries of origin, or mix dank seeds with filler in massive commercial mixers (at least one remaining vendor has been accused of doing so with partial evidence).

I'm solely interested in just preserving the genetics by getting say a few oz sampler or a single 1lb bag, but I don't see how we can really trust these fly-by-night sites to even tell the truth.

Is 1lb of their shit even enough for a dose for you? It's also not a good look that that vendor is copying the name of another vendor, lol.
Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:14:04 EST vBUOIBuR No.616178 Reply
I am on day 24 of being clean and STILL having a runny nose and constant shits.
PPT withdrawals are the fucking worst omg. I guess 10-12 pods daily might have been overkill.
dr. mario - Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:49:29 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616374 Reply
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Yeah buddy, stay strong and keep plugging along. I think I saw you say that you dosed again recently in the BWN. Of course you already know what I'm about to say, but since we both/all know that "micro" dosing PST/PPT (or almost any remotely fiendy drug) while in WD to stop negative symptoms isn't realistic for "true" addicts like us (meaning if we're going to dose after a week clean, we're going to go all in with a worthwhile dose) , the least you can do is try to crudely/acutely taper off every time you decide to go dry/clean.

E.g. if you're been using say 1lb PST a day for weeks or 1lb every 2-3 days for weeks, at the very least reduce your relative dosage by ~50%/day for at least 2-4 days. So like 16oz normal day, then 8oz on "day 1," 4oz day 2, 2oz day 3, 1oz day 4, and then CT. Just trying to give you a friendly reminder since I remember how absolutely horrible high dose daily use PST/PPT WDs can be.

How have you been otherwise? I don't think I've ever seen you in the discord channel. It would be great if we could chat sometime...and no, I'm not asking because you just posted about finding dank seeds lol. It's been nearly 2 years solid on bupe and well over a year since I "relapsed" on a non-bupe opioid, and I'm leaving the US in less than 3 weeks anyways.

It would be nice to occasionally chat with a fellow long term tea head, particularly one that has managed to clock significant "clean" time between individual uses/relatively short binges. It becomes very bland talking with people who are "clean"/"sober" via either natural sobriety (or faithfully taking bupe/'done/naltrexone), yet are too sensitive relapse wise to be willing/able to talk drug use. At the same time however, talking with users still on the daily PST/PPT + occasional dope or opi pill grind often results in let's say...single dimensional conversations, lol.

Either way, I do wish you and the other regulars well.

Since I'm leaving the US for a long while and am soon going to pick up a brand new legally scripted Narcan kit for overseas (as needled syringes of any kind and almost any globally restricted drug are illegal in Cambodia without a non-expired script), I'm trying to give away most of the harm reduction-related supplies I've accumulated over the years.

So yeah, please do hit me up on Discord if you or any other regulars would like complimentary OD kits (naloxone in 0.4mg IM ampules + thick IM syringes, as well as 2mg nasal sprays) for free. I've already given most of my stuff away IRL, but if I can indirectly help prevent even a single OD among our tiny community, then why not?

If/when I quickly run out, I can direct anyone else interested to someone in the leddit community who ships out free narcan (probably tracey). With Stimlion having allegedly passed away from a street dope OD quite recently, it should remind opi users (and opi+benz or other downer users in particular) to be careful and play it safe.

That offer includes you too, Katz. I don't expect anything in return. Just accept this narcan you guys, so good people get good use out of it and hopefully no one else on the boards ends up dead. To any mods reading this due to reports for "sourcing," please have empathy for OD prevention/harm reduction so we can prevent future deaths of our users.

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