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- Sat, 08 Aug 2020 03:22:29 EST iD1HI7Ht No.616654
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how bad is tramadol, honestly? it's all my plug can hook me up with. I've been thinking about snorting heroin again. Looking for advice.
Reuben Nannerham - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 14:37:22 EST UxKGNDPm No.616661 Reply

Tramadol is actually very decent and underrated. Tramadol itself is only a weak opiate, SNRI, and NDMA-receptor antagonist.

However, it's metabolite, O-desmethyltramadol, is a potent opiate. I'd equate it with Oxycodone. Although O-desmethyltramadol has a longer duration.

If you have no tolerance, take 300mg of Tramadol, and you should be nodding within two hours. Very underrated Opiate.
Reuben Dubbertan - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 20:21:21 EST 29QbCoeq No.616666 Reply
Tram's metabolite can feel almost good as h imo. however the SNRI part makes it lame af to be hooked on.
anyway take 50mg every 30 minutes until you've taken your dose, you will get much higher than taking it all at once fyi
Charlotte Drurrycocke - Sat, 08 Aug 2020 23:53:08 EST dv1EiRy/ No.616672 Reply
be careful taking so much at once, you get higher if you stagger doses
Isabella Merringdetch - Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:01:16 EST MXlmBZzx No.616679 Reply
It can feel very noddy and groggy at times but lets not kid ourselves, the euphoria of The Oxy® is absent.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:49:19 EST Q6HJEdas No.616682 Reply

A decent stagger schedule is to take 50mg every 30 minutes with your highest dosage at the two-hour mark. TIP: never take all of the pills at once or the highest dosage first. Highest dosages should always be last. 400mg is a typical maximum daily dosage, but some people do go far past this. There’s some debate regarding seizure potential at higher doses versus seizure potential for predisposed individuals at low, or any, dosage. Either way, tramadol acts like an SNRI and can produce seizures due to high dosages or sudden cessation in some users. Example below.

0:00 - 50mg
0:30 - 50mg
1:00 - 50mg
1:30 - 50mg
2:00 - 200mg
Wait for the waves to SMACK!
Lillian Hicklecocke - Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:05:24 EST z9BcfxuS No.616739 Reply
Works the other way round (start 200)better coz of enzyme saturizzlatiozzle

And opis work better at once
The following 50s keep you high better than they can prepare you for the 200mg dose due to
What I just said lol
Lillian Hicklecocke - Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:07:51 EST z9BcfxuS No.616740 Reply
Oh and people have found the same on here and in person without me informing them thus creating possible bias
m - Wed, 12 Aug 2020 22:39:20 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616751 Reply
Not true. Enzyme saturation is what you DO NOT want! You want as much clearance as possible, because O-DSMT is more potent, less stimmy/twichy, and much more euphoric than tramadol. You achieve a high proportion of O-DSMT by allowing as much clearance as possible.

Katz's suggestion is generally correct, and he's right in terms of those who for whatever reason can't be bothered staggering beyond 2 hours. However, if you don't mind the wait, I'd actually recommend staggered for closer to 3 hours before the ending "dump" dose.

The reason why a large dose at the end is superior is because long-term clearance is pretty good at 100mg/hr. Maybe at a 2hr time "limit" we could debate dump dosing at the beginning vs. the end, but when staggered out to ~3-3.5hr or so, "dump" dosing at the end is much, much better.
John Dettingshit - Thu, 13 Aug 2020 13:42:33 EST 5W6KIQkA No.616758 Reply
I pity you americans really, I just dump a 100mg ER every 3 hours until I can't resist sleep.
Caroline Pirringfere - Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:03:17 EST z9BcfxuS No.616791 Reply
If you live here in europe you sjpuld be able to score bether than trams, though they are the better trams except the specific metabolite odsmt which is way too expensive
Archie Buggleforth - Sat, 15 Aug 2020 14:19:44 EST 7RaDv8Xu No.616794 Reply
you dont need to use DNms to buy odsmt. it's legal. its just expensive
Augustus Dremblemore - Sat, 15 Aug 2020 14:23:56 EST HRj7vDap No.616795 Reply
No I ment the whole better opiates thing, odsmt is great in concept but as you say its ruinous to acquire, hell I dont think its all that legal, youre definitely getting it confiscated if anything goes down.
Frederick Goodworth - Sat, 15 Aug 2020 14:50:21 EST OHIHxMID No.616797 Reply
The method Katz showed is correct. Been on Tramadol since 2011 and took about a year before I found out about staggering. Makes the world of difference and trust me I’ve tried it both ways. I don’t even go for the boom at the end as many suggest even I just take 50mg/30min until good.

We have that too actually and the regular 50mg are easier to abuse/get you higher than extended release.

What happened?

Frederick Goodworth - Sat, 15 Aug 2020 14:52:19 EST OHIHxMID No.616798 Reply
Whoops. My bad fucking that message up with that eyesore. Pretty benzed rn.
m - Sat, 15 Aug 2020 17:09:31 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616803 Reply
ER is totally different though. What is even your point? You're doing the right thing when it comes to ER tramadol.

Augustus Dremblemore - Sat, 15 Aug 2020 19:45:59 EST HRj7vDap No.616806 Reply
My point is that shit staggers itself, as long as you dont mess around with the easily messable around mechanism you'll get an even supply of odsmt. I got pretty fucking rocked the other day off 400mg x 8 ~ hours and 3mgs of Loraz.
Ian Cebblegold - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 08:15:24 EST z9BcfxuS No.616821 Reply
Better opiates.are at your front door in wurope dnm is for the purest of the pure

Trammadol ers do self stagger and the odsmt ratio is epic
Still just trammadol though
Ian Cebblegold - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 08:17:30 EST z9BcfxuS No.616822 Reply
Like do the maths, basic math anyway

They dissolve over many hours so you can just eat a few er trams and its tsken care of the whole dosing schedule. Can crush or chew the first or last dose for the 200mg start or finish
Curval - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:09:35 EST yqScPYVq No.616823 Reply
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What should i do if i have Tramadol 150 Retard?
Rebecca Sembleham - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 11:30:17 EST HRj7vDap No.616824 Reply
You should look up how many hours it takes to dissolve, usually its 8 hours.
Doris Hungerbury - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 16:21:51 EST CXte+syq No.616827 Reply
O-desmethyltramado;, wish I still had a source for that. Really under rated nb
Ian Cebblegold - Sun, 16 Aug 2020 18:01:42 EST z9BcfxuS No.616829 Reply
Eat 2, 1 crushed

Eat another one in 2 hours if you want
Maybe another later on
Edwin Clidgestock - Tue, 18 Aug 2020 04:05:34 EST Epb8U9AW No.616856 Reply
yea, it works great for pain with Ibuprophen. 50mgs. It can and does have difficult effects. It has some some SNRI I assume, it is a fucked compound drug otherwise. It was made to oppose the drug epidemic. It is incorrect. As opposed to, but at what cost. Some chemists, pharmacies do have this over the counter. It is actually not good to get hooked on.

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