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HA HA! This one's mine, though CFT probably deserves it.On 50mg Memantine as a mood-enhancer since I don't have any DCKStarted huffing some Butane just now. Might move on to some starter fluid in a bit.
>>132368Alright here goes nothing. Let's hope it's not bunk because it's like $60.
>>132371Lol contact the chem company making it directly if amazon doesnt make u do that anymore. You'll get a better deal and some ease of mind knowing the actual source.Also 1,4bee is great. But be careful and all that jazz
>>127759Can't find much on "Indiana Chemical," so probably sketch ass company. The reviews are all "totally cleaned my wheels with this guize" and one person saying her son almost died on the stuff. Not that I'm worried because I bought some droppers with it to measure correct dosage.Also went a little crazy and bought some more Kratom and a fly cap mushroom spaygric mixture from a place called Kymia Arts too, but I'm about to be rich off of crypto so I'm going to quit my job this week and fuck around with these chemicals and see which ones aren't scams.
Didn't know where to post this, but I’ve personally never been too big a fan of cannabis. Shit just made me paranoid but that was about it. Maybe it’s different for some other people, but for me that’s about it. But personally, I’ve always had a love for adderall and vyvanse as well as pretty much any other stimulant (including benzedrex and sudafed). But I’ve also reacted pretty well with deliriants (note that I’ve never taken psychedelics/hallucinogens before, so I have no experience with them). Deliriants aren’t for most people, but I’ve personally reacted well with them and enjoyed DPH, Mirtazapine and myristicin (from nutmeg). What are your preferences? Any recommendations on anything better to try? I’ve read that one trip report on Datura of that guy who was kinda like me and enjoyed deliriants, but started off taking smaller doses of it (like smoking the leaves over an open fire) just to get some of it just enough for a mild high, although Datura is pretty dangerous from what I’ve heard.
The only thing I know about datura is that I once sprayed way more than a few drops under my tongue while on DXM, then lost about 6 hours of my life, woke up in bed and couldn't feel anything anywhere for about another 12 hours.Didn't hit me that I overdosed and could have died until like a week later.
>>132365>a few dropsSo you have no idea how much you took. This plant requires skilled hands even to harvest properly.>muh overdoseNo, you had a drug interaction by mixing it with DXM. The fact that effects lasted under 24hours is proof you did not overdose on datura, since a healthy trip lasts at least 36. eh, not trying to be a dick. Just woke up, early, no weed. If you give some more details, I could help you figure out what happened.
>a few drops
>>132379>under 24 hoursI misread the post I was responding to there. My apologies for posting before the morning shit.
>under 24 hours
Anyone done Blue Lotus (smoked/tea)?It contains aporphine, which is apparently psychoactive. I can't find much on the experience (I haven't looked that hard, I'll do more research), except for the fact ancient Egyptians used it to party .Thoughts? Anyone gave any notable experiences?1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymphaea_caerulea
I've dabbled with it, my friend bought an ounce of it months ago and gave me half when I was on probation. It's a nice buzz, but not much depth with it. It feels like a nice calming body buzz mostly, but it mixes well with other drugs. I use it instead of cannabis in a bowl with DMT, it adds a lot of clarity and a calming body high. I didn't do it too much but apparently it mixes really well with alcohol to create a more dreamlike drunk feeling.Don't expect to get super high on it or anything, these days I mostly use it combined with a little weed as a meditative tool.It also tastes realllllly good imo. Very floral and sweet, and it smokes well.
I know none of these are "safe" because even ethanol is neurotoxic, but lets just say a similar safety profile to alcohol. I'm looking into 1,4-Butanediol and GBL, the former seems way easier to get as it's used in cosmetics. I've heard with GBL, like GHB, you know have to fill out DEA requests to legally purchase it. I'm willing to semi-legally purchase it, i.e. just not tell the DEA, but I don't know how big of a crime that is.Also looking into higher alcohols like 2m2b and propanol, which are supposed to theoretically be even safer than ethanol. Anyone have experience with them? Are they qualitatively different than ethanol or just more potent? Is the high cleaner? Is the taste bearable?Lastly, and I know this the most dubious, thinking of going about getting ether/chloroform. Are there any other solvents that are as safe(ish) as these two are? I know they're not safe per say but they're a lot better than most other solvents I've read about like toluene, HFCs, etc.Would like to know more about this subject in general and especially would like to know about chemicals which I haven't mentioned, because I've pretty much said all the ones I know.
>>132349i didn't try 2m2b but one of my friends swear by it. I beleive propanol won't work, it's toxic and doesn't really have a high.i tried another alcohol, namely "chlorbutanol" that is in fact 2,2,2-trichloro-tert-butanol. It's mild, can't really get higher than say 2 beers. But it's very easy to make, chloroform, acetone and sodium hydroxide give rise to this compound with very strange fragrance and high tendency to sublimate into the air.Ether is a very good substance. It's wildly euphoric. It's like the crack version of alcohol. Also it's very addictive, and has a wild dissociative overtone.Chloroform is dangerous. Beleive me it's not worth it. It's euphoric at first, and it's more potent than ether, but there's a very good chance of blacking out and huffing too much. It kills the liver and the kidney and it tastes absolutely horrible. it's one of the most vomit-inducing odor for me, i vomited too many times from chloroform. It's toxic as fuck.Substances you didn't mention: the one carbon longer chain derivatives of GHB/GBL/: They are called: gamma-hydroxy-valeric acid (GHV), gamma-valerolactone (GVL). They are less potent but still useful. Probably uncontrolled.Valeric acid: the active ingridient of valerian. not something to get high on but slightly calming.Thrichloroethanol and Chloral hydrate: 19th century sleep aids. You can get high on them but they aren't healthy to say the least (OK nothing in this thread is healthy)Modern medical anesthetics: Halothane, desflurane, isoflurane, sevoflurane: not likely you will ever get your hands on these. Highly effective kock-out huffings used in surgery.Paraldehyde: another very old hypnotic, pretty safe compared to other drugs in this post. This like some kind of primitive steampunk benzo. Can be used as an anxiolytic, a hypnotic or an anticonvulsant. You will smell like a dying alcoholic person because you will breath out acetaldehyde.
>>132369Thanks for the reply. I've considered paraldehyde actually. That reminds me though, in that vein, are bromides worth it?Also, in general, if we're buying these chemicals intended to be used in industry that they don't have dangerous additives/byproducts?
>>132373>>132373that totally depends on what quality you buy. chemicals have a purity descriptor word. each of these words is a standard and has a description that what it might contain. The least pure is "technical" usually contains contaminants in the percentage range. not adcmvised to consume. the purest are analytical standards. these are millions of times more pure than even medicinal chemicals, but they are more expensive than gold. a good middle road is a.r. aka analytical reagent. they are still more pure than e?ven medicine grade, but not that extremely pure, and usually have a cost of close to 30usd/litre for simple chemicals.
Wondering who else is taking Phenibut here. Just started on 250-500mg and noticing some sedating and relaxing effects. Wondering what therapeutic effects might be possible past the 250-500mg dosage range.
>>132263Is there anyway in the USA, to find Phenibut already prepared in pill form? Or do you need a milligram scale?
>>132336Pre-weighed capsules are found pretty easily online. If you mean pressed pills, I have no idea.
>>132336it's completely legal here idk what you mean dude just order it onlineno sourcing but all that but if you google "buy phenibut" literally the first one that comes up is a reputable site with decent prices, they also sell adrafinil which is very cash but really hard on your liver I've heard, I still like it, adrafinil+phenibut is genuinely a good time and is a real tangible buzz bordering on what some might call a high if you take 3-5g of phenibut, which I know is kind of a lot but it really does change your head spaceYou can seriously over do it with phenibut though, as in really bizarre hallucinations, including weird sensory ones like a pins and needles sensation in the extremities and brain zaps, bizarre very realistic hallucinations like frames of a dream superimposed on your vision, lots of spontaneous images in your minds eyeNow that I think of it I wonder what causes that, the only thing I can think of is its antagonism of voltage-dependent calcium channels, and I recall having a similar experience on an exceptionally high dose of gabapentin which also does that so maybe that's it?
So there's a spay can of this fixative spray shit. It's used as a fixative for finalizing and protecting drawings, pastels, paintings, etc. It's an art material. Can warnings state to use in a well ventilated area, may cause dizziness, fumes are harmful, etc. A while back I was using it to prime sketchbook pages to make the paper stronger and more resilient to wet media. I sprayed the paper in a ventilated room and before letting it dry I brought the book into my room and continued working over the page. Fumes were strong but I ignored them. Ended up having a mild euphoric effect that night, even felt slightly stimulated and enjoyed interesting, unusual thoughts. I also pissed my wife off because I made the entire upstairs rooms smell like fixative spray.Well, I'm dry and can't stand sober reality, so there I was at the upstairs open window, having sprayed a wad of tissue paper with the chemical, and holding it up to my snout and breathing deeply inwards for about two to three minutes. No effect. Nada. Zip. Fucking zero.My question is why? It had been about 4 or 5 weeks since accidentally tripping on the shit and I would like to repeat the experience intentionally if possible.
>>132362you didn't tell what the fuck is in the fixative spray. so we can't know what is wrong or what should you do. If you really want to huff you should just huff nitrous oxide. That won't melt your brain. If you're a desperate ill person, you can huff propane-butane gas ("lighter fluid"): fast and intensive kick-in, incredible rush, over in a few minutes. Or you can huff toluene ("nitro-paint-thinner"): slow mild kick-in, less rush, more like a trip, goes on for half an hour after a good session. I found any other shit that are usually aliphatic hydrocarbons of C7 or longer chain, are almost useless.I highly advise against huffing anything outside nitrous. It's the most damaging class of drugs there are. Even homeless junkies only use it when they cant get their hands on real drugs. A huffer's liver at the age of 25 is like the liver of a deeply alcoholic person at the age of 70. It literally dissolves your brain. Your brain cells's membrane are made of lipids that are highly soluble in these solvents, and it dissolves these lipids making your brain cells pour out into the extracellular matrix, effectively killing them. You will have less and less healthy brain cells and you will be dumber and dumber until you effectively reach the point of a mentally retarded person. Also it can stop heart any time, this is called "sudden sniffers death". Stick to nitrous or other real drugs, or maybe just lay by your wife and hug her and give her a kiss.
>>132367Loud and clear. I won't fuck around with fixative spray anymore. Thanks for taking the time.
>>132370you're welcome.if you want you can share why can't you stand sober reality. it must be hard that you have a family and still can't stand reality, there must be rough problems. i'm a deeply alcoholic person myself who have huffed solvents a lot of times. I know that feel when someone is ready to do anything just to don't feel sober, including cutting himself. i'm battling with the cravings 24/7 but i learned lot of things during the sufferings. so if you want we can talk.
What is a good, healthy alternative to Benzos? I need something against anxiety.
>>131340Try kava. I'm still skeptical about it being completely safe and healthy, especially if you take other drugs, but it does help with anxiety and it's sure as fuck healthier and more sustainable long-term than benzos lol. Maybe be cautious if you have a history with drugs that act on your serotonin receptors and make sue you replenish vitamins and minerals in your diet
Gabapentin or pregabalin are my choices. I use pregabalin to get high though so I have to set some aside for anxiety uses.
I recently got a lot of ambien from a Dr. I trying to figure out what the right dose is for me to trip. I am currently on 20mg. I feel very inebriated, not much trippy effects though. Words seem to come off the screen as a type them but that's about it. Any advice with this drug? Past experiences?
>>132343I fully agree with u about it being unpredictable as fuck. There were times I took 40mg and it didnt do much and times were I took 25mg and I came to the next day with my room filled with half eaten snacks and full meals. That was fun to clean up
>>132359YEah, weirdest fucking thing isn't it? Maybe because it's more of a hypnotic drug than anything else. 3/5 times it might help me sleep, 1/5 did jack shit, and 1/5 it would animate inanimate objects, like Cheerios, squirming around like tasty donut shaped maggots...
From what I've heard it's really just dependent on your own brain chemistry. Some people trip hard on the medically approved dose they take to treat insomnia. Others don't trip at all before they start ODing.
So, I have lime and betel nuts. If you don't know, these are really hard nuts that are chewed on pacific islands and give a feeling a bit like tobacco or khat but different entirely and unique to these nuts.So, I know I use the lime somehow to soften the nut when I chew it, but I've only seen people chew them, not actually chewed them myself. Any tips to chew like a native?
>>132346Idk dude I'm not an expert on betel nut TBH. I just did it for like a week when I was in Saipan. They were fresh nuts that were rather soft. googled a bit and saw what you were talking about and they looked dried and not fresh. No clue if OP has the same shit I did but they would crack kind of like a grape. Honestly it was super shitty though and terrible for your mouth. Only did it for like 4 days but I had a huge sore in my mouth from it
>>132356>fresh nutsOh, that makes sense. Thanks. Wish I could get them fresh... I could probably shred those and process it into something like tobacco dip with enough experimentation.>soresYeah... that's caustic lime for you. Never risked something like putting a caustic substance in my mouth that line is asking for it and never understood why that's the procedure. Why the fuck don't more people just pre-process the stuff? I used to get little packets of candied betel nut, usually rose flavored from india, but was still dissatisfied with those due to the pieces being jaged, rock hard chunks.
>>132357>never risked caustic substanceCorrection. There were those raw coca leaves that a midget was growing in his living room.
>never risked caustic substance
It's a myth. The stash doesn't exist. You can't just stash drugs away and have them in a stash. You just end up taking them all and running out. The stash is a lie. It's a myth.
That is a mouth watering stash though.Also I know what you mean but I'm still gonna try. I've been semi-clean for the last 6 months and I've really been exercising moderation and I really want to start fucking with drugs heavy again but like how I did originally before shit went off the rails, and I definitely feel like I can>inb4 that's what everyone says you dumb fucking junkyOk a couple things are different. 1. I'm more mature. 2. I'm not in college anymore and I'm not around drugs constantly and I'm not going to pressured into the social role of the guy that does a shitton of drugs. I liked that and it gave me a way to really be myself and fall back on doing a lot of drugs/being high for the reason I'm so weird but that time of my life is over and I'm ready to establish a more meaningful identity not ENTIRELY based around doing drugs, but I think as a symbol of being a free spirit and someone who kind of is a bit out there/eccentric occasional drug use is paramount, not to mention the immense personal benefit I got from it (again, until it went from something that I used to improve my life to something I lived for). 3. I struggled really bad with bipolar, now I'm stable on medication that really doesn't interact with many drugs (Lamictal and buproprion) and when they do it's generally either a positive interaction (because of the buproprion) or a diminished effect (because of the Lamictal) in which case I'll just take more. I was never medically an addict, I was always just self-medicating.
>inb4 that's what everyone says you dumb fucking junky
>>132352The secret to having a stash is having most of the stash be made of drugs you don't like, can't take on a regular basis, or drugs that are so cheap that you don't need to worry about running out of them.Also just look at the picture you posted OP. A bunch of those are clearly there just to pad the numbers or to counteract the effects of other drugs.
i want to inhale some either. all the diethyl ether i find is super expensive. i found this for 6 bucks. will this give the same effect as diethyl ether?
>>132326https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/4-MethylanisoleMight be useful when manufacturing other drugs, like many constituents of the perfume industry.
so im OP, i made this thread. i bought both 30ml of diethyl ether and 30ml of the methyl ether.. the methyl ether does not get me high. the diethyl ether i just huffed my last bit and was surprisingly enjoyable. i thought maybe it would be like duster (a waste of time and brain cells) and hopefully more like nitrous, but its very different from these. the effects last alot longer than i expected. i can see why it was used as anesthesia, you get numb. i just wanted to kick it off my bucket list of drugs since ive been experienced with every mainstream drug for some time.will i buy it again? no. would i suggest you to try it? .. meh, yeah maybe a couple times, make sure its pure and not starter fluid. but its a decent little buzz. especially if you do enough to actually bounce in and out of consciousness.still though at the price i found it, youd better off getting some weed or even a 12 pack of beer. just my opinion. hell knowing me (an opiate user) id rather spend it on some pills.
Hey, been a long time since I've posted on here. I'm very depressed and plan on committing suicide later tonight using difluroethane. It's the most common propellant/hydroflurocarbon used in compressed air aerosol cans. Basically I'm giving myself sudden sniffer's death syndrome. Now, I'm very concerned. Somebody with decent knowledge, please tell me.How painful is it? I believe my heart may actually explode. I'm very nervous. Please give me a little more information. I enjoy the high difluoroethane causes, but will the intoxication still be pleasant at that concentration? Will It numb the pain? I've read the asphyxiation is very painful. Somebody please help me.
>>132333You're dumb. This will just give you permeate brain damage.Enjoy spending the rest of your life walking on sun shine.Have you considered suicide via huffing air horn gas insstead?
>>132334Actually you're quite the jackass. It's entirely lethal and a common cause of death from inhalants. The mist freezes the lungs, causing asphyxiation. Mass amounts of adrenaline are released causing cardiac arrhythmia. This usually results in the heart bursting or exploding.
>>132335The decibels of your average air horn is enough to rupture the blood vessels in your brain and cause internal bleeding.Mass ammounts of people die from sudden loudness every year.
Does CBD actually work?
>>132131I fucking told you man 6-8 daysyou didn't listen, they never listen
>>132131was it bad or good? Im so fucking confused/curious lol
Bought a van found this behind center console glove box thing. Is it drugs? Its thin like alcohol i think and theres a white ball in it...?!?!? What could it be? Considering IVing it into my dick to find out. Lol. Jokes.
>>132284This is why you're the wizard.
>>132292What,withall the traveling you've been doing, you never needed a whiff of easy shitting vapors?
>>132298You should try eating more vegetables.
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