>>131623

>>131613


:c. Where is the scene now?

>>131690
no idea bud

got some alphabet soup spilled on my lap years ago and have been to spooked to keep up since

>>131690
Damn those are old. They've been dead for a decade now? I got some of my first and best via those places. The dramatics are still some shit I haven't seen like anywhere else. The scams, the crazy fucking admins/mods/users/vendors attacking each other cold blooded, motherfuckers dying on cam or IRC.

Most of it has moved to darker pastures, but clearnet sites and a few clearnet forums are still around not nearly as much domestic mostly overseas and email is still as popular. Maybe it is nostalgia or I don't have the plugs I used to, but the quality from service to product leaves much to be desired that you don't get from a vendor nowadays. Your average fellow couldn't buy/sell or would know about getting anything mail ordered until a simple enough store (SR) came about then the cat really came out of the bag. "Grey" and black market are fairly mixed now so if you can find forums and markets for one you can easily find the rest. From my perspective the online markets have been disrupted in particular the RC. Vendors have been falling like flies all year and the preceding past couples years have been rough too. Before it became common knowledge usually you would get a big bust every 2-4 years, but now there couldn't be more attention with these assholes fentanyl (analogues) throwing that awful shit in everything you can think of with quantities on hand that no one not even a vendor could ever hope to use. Isn't even anything fun just a bomb waiting to kill people.

Never stop stocking up if you find something you really enjoy because it might disappear and unless you synth it yourself may never see again. The mainstays will always be around, but something like MXE is a prime example. I haven't found any legitimate source for it since it all dried up just mystery China chemicals sold as. Everything legal now is pretty shit anyways compared to what used to be. Even a ton of psych shops closed recently which is pretty fucked up because they usually stayed open/legit the longest.

Never did buy any of the branded smoke stuff but i did get pure powders of a few different ones and sprayed them on tea leaves or something, i can't really remember but i think i had one of the jwh's and an am2201 or whatever it was called.

>>131694
Yeah, almost 10 years now. I got introduced into the scene during RCF days, which got shut down then we jumped to EK. If I remember correctly, EK went down in like 09 or 10 then everyone moved to LHG which was taken down in 13 I think? Crazy places they were, you can't find places like that on the clearnet anymore. They were the internet equivalent of the hood. Kinda miss places like that though, some of the best shit I've ever used were experimental stuff that came from those places. I'm not usually a fan of blends since I like straight compound but one of the best highs I've ever had was a special blend by MH himself.
>>131690
On the clearnet it's all invite only nonindexed private forums because most jumped onto the darknet, the marketplaces specifically. If you know a handful of keywords words, you can still find them if you dig deep enough but it's better to lurk the darknet really. Oddly, there's a few subcirclejerks surrounding this topic but it's difficult to trust anyone there.

ask /del/? it's an antihistamine so i assume there would be deliriant effects. i remember hearing about people smoking them but dont quote me on that

>>131701
>>131703
It technically would qualify as /del/ but IME it's pretty fucking terrible as a deliriant. It's sedative at low doses, but trying to get to the point of full delirium is far more painful than DPH. Side effects are even worse.

>>131704
ive drank like half a bottle a few years ago before school
I got lost and was found later that night near a schoo bus depot

It can be fun, but you have to time out doses over several hours to get anywhere, taking it all at once will get you buzzed but no where near a titrated dose.

>>131707

>I have the synthetic CBD chemical

Ummm now I'm curious as to what chemical you actually have.

CBD comes from hemp which isn't synthetic. Are you talking about the JWH-xxx blends?

>>131586
Fucked around with it last night, did a 12ml dose. I don't think it's related, but it feels like euphoric booze, very benzo-y, kind of similar to how people described GHB. Had a slight after effect in the morning but nothing even remotely comparable to the sort of hangover I'd have from the level of intoxication I was feeling. Could be because of the lower purity. After I finish this bottle I'm ordering 99%+.

LD50 is apparently close to ethanol from what I've seen but I can't give you any exacts. It seems like mixing this with any CNS depressant would be dangerous at higher dosages, but I can confirm it feels amazing with weed, like near MDMA levels of euphoria.

My advice, if you want to try it, is go for 10-20ml with nothing else and smoke weed if you want. The figure of roughly 8 hours seems to be correct, and it seems like it would be more fun than day drinking.

>>131586
>>131590

In addition:

It's quite sedating. I sort of nodded out for 20 minutes and when I woke up I felt fine and the drug was still in effect, which was in line with most other peoples accounts.

I'd be curious to see what a substantial dose of caffeine, possibly with theanine would do to counteract the sedating effects, but this stuff is woefully under-documented from what my searches are bringing back.

Not an every day thing, but it's going in the rotation for sure.

>>131580
How does it smell (from the pores or breath)? I mean it's not much one Drinks. but some solvents are quite nasty.

>>131601
Somewhere between rubbing alcohol and like peppermint extract. Honestly, I tasted it sometimes when I burped so there's no way you're going to be able to get away with convincing someone you're not intoxicated to some degree if they smell your breath (probably), but it doesn't seem to linger past a burp. As far as sweating, I didn't smell anything, nor did anyone with me mention anything, and it's been quite hot, so I was sweating a great deal.

How flammable is this stuff?
Nothing like the flammable burps you get from ether, right?
Is it safe to smoke after consumption?

>>131444

> Are there any good highs to be found on Amazon in 2018?

Yes. Plenty. All the good OTC highs, industrial chemicals, flora of the world.
C'mon. Try a little harder.
nb

I remember 2013-2015ish I could get Clonazolam, Flubroazolam and diclazolam pg solutions from the River. Along with some good product for pst and kratom... There's still DXM, DPH, and a suped-up alcohol among other things you could find.

>>131450
As far as amazon DXM goes nowadays, theres now these 1.5 oz bottles of 450 mg dxm hbr only syrups that taste like grape, no menthol. They're probably the best brand of dxm for recreational use to pop up in the us so far.

>>131560
I've personally found a little success with treating my DPH-induced mental deficiencies with piracetam and choline. I haven't found that Lion's Mane did anything other than make my scalp tingle.

Buspirone works fantastically for my GAD. It could work for you, or it might do nothing.

Zoloft

honestly I've tried a lot of things but after like 30 years of trying out different shit I'm pretty sure the best thing is good old fashioned psychiatrist-prescribed SNRIs. or SSRIs, whichever either one works. try effexor.

>>131681
Effexor was nice, but I couldn't feel my cock after a week of taking it, and I couldn't orgasm.

>>131646

>>131672
I hitched a ride on a train like a hobo a few years back. I was trashed while I did it.

>>131678
THEY ARREST THOSE GUYS? I always thought train hobos were a great american tradition, like forcing immigrants to do our labor. That's more fucked up than your laundry list of blackouts. I get it though dude, that sucks. There's another meidcation called antabuse(aka disulfiram) and it's another alcohol abuse deterrent drug. Except this one just makes you suck as shit if you try to drink, otherwise it doesn't really have any side effect. Ask to be switched to that. I think it would work better anyways, if you slip up and get punished enough times your brain might learn. Or if not, at least the unpleasantness will motivate you to find another solution. Here's a tip; start by changing your habits, people are like 90% their habits.

>>131682

It's absolutely not true that disulfiram has no side effects (and they can include neuropathy and liver damage).

>>131685
oh really? that part I wasnt really speaking from experience. I tried looking it up and found little. Well shit OP, you just need to weigh those against everything else. Liver damage is ironically also an effect of alcohol abuse, so maybe there's no easy way out. what ever there isn't an easy way out for most of us just pick the least worst option OP. I'm a stubborn motherfucker and I took a bunch of (self-prescribed) punishment before I learned, you probably won't have to stick with it even half as long as I did

mostly it makes me feel like I've been drugged, and then I wake up drowsy about 12-16 hours later. its good stuff for an insomniac, too bad its not sustainable

>looking for phenibut on the streets

what the fuck, just buy some benzos and not be a retard

>>131687
Online you dumb fuck and while you’re at it learn to deal with your anxiety sober so you don’t develop an addiction to something so expensive and that easily causes terrible withdrawals. Or smoke some fucking weed once a month

>>131688
Benzo addiction is not fun.

>>131689
actually phenibut is pretty close to it in that regard and has similarly terrible and long withdrawals, so yeah good luck with that

btw I remember seeing some sleep aid gym supplement online, check it - phenibut (among other ingriedents), guess how they advertised it? non-addictive
fuck this industry, can't believe the shit they put poor people through to earn few bucks

>>131684
this is obvious shilling, phenibut is no different from any other drug, if it's there it'll work, end of story. It doesn't matter which kind you buy. And no it's not a supplement and no you won't find it "on the street"


>>131691
if you don't research what you're taking you deserve it, imo. Same with people bitching about doctors putting them on benzos, I have no idea why people are so trusting of others, even "professionals". Workers generally don't care about their work, why would a doctor be different than a cashier in this regard? It's all about money at the end of the day

>Thoughts

I'm grateful I don't smoke random bags of leaves sprayed with who knows what China sent in parks. The news story now says maybe 76 people overdoses. Somebody made some deals and split. If it all happened around the same time meaning the seller may have knew what was coming. Cannabinoids were interesting, but they permanently fried and and caused other health issues more than any RC than I can think of (though I think we're still waiting for some real fucked up feedback from long-term RC benzos). If I remember correctly the researcher of the JWH series, John W. Huffman, was interviewed and he was shocked humans were consuming them because he was using them to map out the endocannabinoid system in some rodents. I've tried more cannabinoids than I care to admit and I must say stay away and vape some cannabis/wax instead.