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- Fri, 21 Aug 2020 14:32:00 EST y+W2bcwU No.133653
File: 1598034720924.jpg -(25232B / 24.64KB, 560x392) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Gabapentinoids
Well, I thought I'd post a threat about Gabapentinoids, such as Gabapentin, Pregabalin, Phenibut, Mirogabalin etc.

Starting with Gabapentin. Gabapentin is a severely underrated Gabapentinoid, and the original Gabapentinoid. It's a potent euphoriant, contrary to common belief, and shares all the euphoriant/psychoactive effects of Pregabalin interchangeably. Such as intense euphoria, tracers, music-enhancement, and MDMA-like empathetic effects.

Gabapentin's recreational dosage range is between 3-8 grams with no tolerance. 6-12 grams with tolerance. I'm currently on 8 grams of Gabapentin, potentiated by staggering the dosages and 440 mg of Naproxen Sodium for increased bioavailability. Feels good man.

Pregabalin is the chemical successor to Gabapentin. It has twice the dosage potency, is 150% more potent at block the α2δ subunit-containing voltage-dependent calcium channels, and is slightly-mildly more euphoric. Otherwise it's basically identical.

Recreational dosage range of Pregabalin with no tolerance is 1.5-3 grams.

Phenibut is a unique Gabapentinoid, that actually binds to GABAb receptors, and at higher dosages GABAa receptors as an agonist. Unlike Gabapentin and Pregabalin. It also produces a mild psychostimulant effect through increased levels of Phenethylamine and n-methylphenethylamine in the brain. It's generally considered to be slightly more euphoric then Pregabalin.

Currently on 8 grams of Gabapentin with a high dose of Cannabis to alleviate amphetamine withdrawal. Working perfectly fine.

So be glad to share your knowledge/experiences with Gabapentinoids in this thread.
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Ernest Trotspear - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:51:28 EST /OsD/LJ3 No.133742 Reply
>>133740
You start to get used to the sedative effects the more you do you it. IME it also plateaus in sedation pretty quickly beyond 900mg. The weed isn't helping you here. Maybe try taking a bit of caffeine by drinking half or a whole energy drink or so.
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Ernest Trotspear - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:52:25 EST /OsD/LJ3 No.133743 Reply
>>133742
>The weed isn't helping you here.
Sedation wise I mean. I'd definitely try taking it earlier in the day and taking a bit of caffeine with it. Try staying a little more active too instead of just sitting down or laying down.
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Frederick Snodford - Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:01:44 EST xfUOlMSZ No.133765 Reply
>>133653
As someone experienced with conventional benzos one thing i noticed about Phenibut is it made me absolutely more sleepy. I would be feeling chill and good but then would start to feel like taking a nap pretty intensely.

GHB

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- Sat, 22 Feb 2020 10:24:09 EST kxEnCjVr No.133131
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Why is this stuff so unknown outside of The Netherlands? The effects are reslly comfy and good. It's great to help out in relaxing and just zoning out a bit on music or videos with a warm and comfy alcohol like tingle. And it's even a good aphrodisisiac and energising at small to normal amounts. Incredibly easy and cheap to manufacture It has everything you could want in a drug. I pay 70 euros for half a litre. 1 dose is 1ml and I redose about three more times in a night. That' s more than a hundred comfy and great moments for 70 cent a kick. It amazes me not a lot of people have tried it and it isn't more popular around the world.
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Lydia Harrychatch - Thu, 21 May 2020 10:58:26 EST RE+C5vpi No.133403 Reply
>>133395
Yes I could just Google it, but people who have done it generally give their experience, mention tips, gotchas, etc.
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Cornelius Blopperstone - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:53:49 EST 42+k1Gjt No.133762 Reply
>>133393
Very easy to make if you can get ahold of GBL, which I ordered from NL to the UK. GBL has legal uses as a solvent and cleaner. It was sold as a gel but the gelling agent is just cellulose.

Conversion is done with sodium hydroxide, use pH paper to get it to the neutral point and you're done. GBH from GBL. If you're using the gel I got, the cellulose all clumps together in the conversion and you can remove it easily.
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Cornelius Blopperstone - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:58:12 EST 42+k1Gjt No.133763 Reply
>>133131
Oh and although I like it, I find it too hard to dose correctly. It is so easy to go a bit over and end up in a G coma. STEEP dose response curve.

Amitryptiline(TCA antidepressant) withdrawal or just depression

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- Thu, 24 Sep 2020 08:36:04 EST vq4yoBLi No.133745
File: 1600950964503.jpg -(23525B / 22.97KB, 400x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Amitryptiline(TCA antidepressant) withdrawal or just depression
So about a month ago I took a small dose of amitryptiline so I could sleep, at this time I was also sleep deprived and heard some bad news related to my exams. Ever since then I feel like I have those shitty anticholinergic symptoms(brain fog, feeling/acting slow, stumbling on words) but all of these could be related to depression so I don't know what's wrong with me
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Polly Pengerbanks - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 03:43:57 EST vq4yoBLi No.133753 Reply
>>133750
Hmm what if it's like persistent side effects? Kinda how people on ssris get sexual dysfunction
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Graham Brimmerban - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 12:12:21 EST 0087E+g/ No.133758 Reply
>>133753
They get the sexual dysfunction because they are still taking the drugs. It takes 2-3 months for the brain to return to baseline if they have been taking the SSRIs for more than a month, but after that the sexual dysfunction rarely ever persists. I know from experience because I've been on and off 2 SNRI's multiple times now.

If anything, the problem here appears to be that you're a hypochondriac that wants (or needs) to believe that what you're experiencing is a an extremely. very highly unlikely case that single small dose of a drug you took a month ago is some how responsible for symptoms that are very easily and much more likely to be the result of multiple other potential causes.

Look, depression explains all of your symptoms and you already indirectly admitted to being depressed. You're even aware yourself that the brain fog and whatnot goes hand-in-hand with depression, but are still trying to work this super unlikely persisting side-effect angle? At most, the amitriptyline may have been the catalyst that sparked greater deterioration of your psychological state, resulting in a worsening of symptoms related to it. The effects of expectation, suggestion, and unconscious desires and feelings have a great but often underestimated and overlooked ability to impact your psychological/emotional state and well being.

For all you know, the sleep deprivation was the result of your depression already having gotten worse, you took the amitriptyline to treat the insomnia, and then you noticed your depression after the distraction of needing sleep but not being able to get it disappeared, and the timing of taking the amitriptyline coincided with it such that you've misattributed it to being the cause of your worsened mental state. That's actually pretty likely, as a matter of fact. Multiple studies have proven that sleep deprivation has a measurable antidepressant effect that goes away as soon as the subject goes to sleep. The way the brain functions while sleep deprived is very different from how it does when well rested, but the observed effect is poorly understood at the moment and the subject of a lot of investigation. So, it's not just possible but even quite likely the insomnia was the early symptom of your depression getting worse before ever taking any drugs.

That, or it;s just your depression getting worse. It's obvious with bad exam news and insomnia, as well as being depressed, etc., you're under a lot of stress and aren't the best at coping with it in a healthy way that leads to mental and emotional well being. You're better off focusing your energy on improving your coping skills and finding other ways to positively benefit your mental and physical health and overall well being. I mean, what are you really even achieving by proving one way or another whether your symptoms getting somewhat kinda sort worse is the result of a single dose of a drug you took a month ago or not? It isn't really going to change anything, is it?
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Frederick Tootcocke - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 05:14:47 EST vq4yoBLi No.133760 Reply
>>133758
Thanks for taking your time to write this informative post. I agree for the fact that I'm exaggerating whatever is wrong with me, but I'm also scared because these symptoms are quite new to me. The best way to describe how I feel now Is floaty and sluggish... My motor function seems impaired as well, I misplace things and make mistakes, even when it comes to simple tasks like moving things around or typing out this post I've already redacted it multiple times because I can't seem to make up my mind. Sometimes I lose around 60-80% of sensation across my body, this happens randomly whether depressed/anxious or ''normal''. Maybe the latter symptom is associated with depersonalization but I have no idea. If I was working right now I'd definitely get fired or something but I'm not so I guess I could live through this

Kava

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- Fri, 06 Mar 2020 00:36:41 EST TpdkRaXA No.133178
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Anyone a fan of kava? I've been using micronized kava lately and damn it is chill af. Feels like a mild benzo/alcohol buzz, pure euphoria in the body and calming. Just makes me not give a single shit. Not really many downsides... sometimes gives me gas or a headache that's about it. So far it's my alcohol/weed replacement.
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Caroline Cobberstock - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 09:20:06 EST 6InLje3G No.133757 Reply
bought myself a half a lb of kava for my bday a few months ago. hadnt had the true plant matter in a long time, having used various oil extracts throughout the past year before, some better than others. but i found 7-10g of the powder was a good dose to feel quite nice although the effect only lasted about an hour. i would caution to watch out for over use of kava, it goes to many of the same receptors as benzos alcohol and barbs, so its sure to be addictive if used improperly.
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Ernest Billingworth - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 00:52:05 EST NQ7u2OjD No.133759 Reply
>>133757
I yhonk of you mix some good extract with micronized kava or ehatever the plain powder is called will work a lot better. You are right tho on the duration which is why its best used for sleep or comedowns
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Johhny Buttafuoco - Tue, 29 Sep 2020 07:15:43 EST nnHmF9Dz No.133764 Reply
Amanita mushrooms are my favourite alcohol replacement, just makes me feel like i have gone back in time but everything is still the same obvs. Visuals are very unique too like flashes of black and white, swirling, blurry walls,carpets and ceilings. It is like kava in some ways music enhancement and clean drowsyness unlike booze.

Rate my set up

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- Fri, 25 Sep 2020 18:24:11 EST rxzoyUPm No.133751
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Rate my supplements set up
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jarvis cocksucker - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 07:18:45 EST Unbu8Q7Y No.133755 Reply
>>133751
also krattje is some weak ass kratom but the shipping is really good, my nigga mondialk was the dopest but closed down now.
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Ernest Billingworth - Mon, 28 Sep 2020 07:10:15 EST NQ7u2OjD No.133761 Reply
>>133751
Hey op whats that takkra like? I was thinking bout getting some from that kraatje along with some "max relax" red blend and white mk

pregabalin information

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- Fri, 25 Sep 2020 02:50:41 EST uu69YZP6 No.133747
File: 1601016641117.gif -(1498673B / 1.43MB, 170x123) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. pregabalin information
Just querying a solid first time dose of pregabalin, whether to combine it with anything (weed, benzos, opi, dxm) and general experiences thread.
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jarvis cocksucker - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 11:37:26 EST nnHmF9Dz No.133749 Reply
>>133747
You WILL need weed for pregabs unless its a really high dose 300-600 mg first time is ewhat i did

Atropa bella-donna

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- Tue, 09 Jun 2020 18:26:59 EST KC7WuLXh No.133446
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Anyone here tried Atropa bella-donna?
What it did? How much of it did you do?
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Johnny Bonjella - Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:33:14 EST 0eV8dLh2 No.133476 Reply
>>133475
This, but dimenhyhrdranite (gravol) whateva metabolizes very similar to atropine.
Delinquent got the right idea about dph visuals being see through or murky where tropane alkaloids are just 100% indistinguishable from what is really there.
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Archie Blecklesot - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 06:11:45 EST /3GtSen0 No.133732 Reply
>>133446
I made a tea out of some nightshade, drank it, and went to sleep. Woke up about an hour later with my heart racing, extreme anxiety to the point of near paralysis, intense feeling of cold and numbness, HEAVY sweating, and a lot of buzzing/nervousness in my muscles.
As for the psychological effects: anxiety, fear, a bit of a rush, like riding a roller coaster. I also had minor visuals, and strong tunnel vision.
I didn't time how long this lasted, as I was pretty much paralyzed in bed believing that I was dead or dying and the sensations I felt were my soul descending into hell, and by the time it all wore off, I was exhausted and went straight to sleep.

The next day, I had intense diarrhea and painful cramping and burning in my abdomen. This diarrhea and pain lasted the entire day. My ass was like a supersoaker, spraying high pressure water. I spent perhaps 10 hours on the toilet. My asshole was raw and chapped. I was incredibly thirsty, but every glass of water flew through me and out my ass almost as fast as I could drink.

Everyone cites the eye dilation uses of this herb, but what is most often ignored, unless you look in some OLD herbalism and pharmacy books, is that it was used as a cure for constipation. You WILL shit your guts out. You WILL feel like you're dying.

If you want the experience, if your idea of "fun" is rubbing hot sauce in your eyes or stapling your ballsack to your thigh, go for it. If you want to try a deliriant, pick a different one. If you want to just get high, or have what is conventionally accepted as fun, don't do this drug.
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Alice Danningnadge - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 02:25:55 EST rxvijIOh No.133746 Reply
>>133732
Or you can just smoke it and spare yourself the pain you went through.

Ibutamoren Synthesis help?

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- Sun, 20 Sep 2020 22:41:25 EST vcdI2tMQ No.133736
File: 1600656085770.png -(5030B / 4.91KB, 250x146) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Ibutamoren Synthesis help?
I need help making Ibutamoren. Looks like something I could make, but I don't know how or the materials. All it is is just some Carbon and Oxygen + others
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Lydia Clepperfoot - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:27:47 EST 42+k1Gjt No.133737 Reply
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>>133736
Lol you must be joking? It looks hard to me. But I have nothing but basic chemistry knowledge.

卍卍 K2 Spice 卍卍

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- Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:16:45 EST IdljZDq4 No.133739
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Has anyone tried this? JWH got banned years ago because it binds to the cannabinoid receptors of the brain, so now all the new shit they're selling is far different. The original was K2 gold, but now you've got other shit that is far more dangerous like Diablo, which is being marketed as "herbal incense" to circumvent federal analog laws.
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James Bottingkid - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:17:19 EST 42+k1Gjt No.133741 Reply
>>133739
Seems to be mainly MDMB-4en-PINACA or 4F-MDMB-BINACA. They change the cannabinoid they use all the time.

Seriously though dude just no, these chems are just bad. Period. They aren't safe, in my opinion aren't fun either. Just get some weed. Is there any reason you can't smoke weed? Drug testing?

chloroform

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- Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:09:58 EST msse+4OT No.133710
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Making DIY chloroform. Feels nice.
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Clara Gidgeham - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 02:00:03 EST 42+k1Gjt No.133711 Reply
>>133710
Haloform reaction with hypochlorite and acetone?

It's safe to try a few times, but using it a lot can cause liver and kidney damage. Just make sure you protect from light and add 2-3% ethanol as a stabiliser or it will form phosgene gas in storage.

I love the smell of chloroform, one of my favorite smelling organic solvents.
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Wesley Sodgewell - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 09:04:40 EST b1i2VEdt No.133729 Reply
Make some chlorobutanol.

Safety of drug mixing?

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- Fri, 04 Sep 2020 20:08:03 EST HUGEsmdP No.133689
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How safe would it be to mix a myriad of drugs, specifically Gabapentin, Tramadol,Codeine, Xanax, Barbiturates and Seroquel together with weed and small amounts of alcohol (my new years Eve plans)?
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Sophie Nonkinhall - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 01:06:29 EST nw/cJT+H No.133728 Reply
>>133689
Very safe if you dose low enough

>>133695
>Small amounts of alcohol is certainly enough to kill you or give you brain damage if you have barbies in your system at the same time
You literally pulled this straight out of your ass. There have been plenty of people that have had some beers and barbs. And probably much more than that.
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Walter Dorringstone - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 07:15:17 EST wzm/WYJK No.133733 Reply
>>133728
. Dead Wrestler balls mahoney once eat 50 somas and drank an etire bottle of barcadi 151 and somehow lived.
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jarvis cocksucker - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 02:10:18 EST nnHmF9Dz No.133738 Reply
>>133728
Yeah i must of been desperate for validation when i wrote that horse shit, sorry bout dat. winnie happen again wee laddie.

GETTING H IGH ON ANTIPSYCHOTIC'S DOES WORK

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- Fri, 18 Sep 2020 09:23:29 EST zpBgfO88 No.133730
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To all of you out there who are mentally ill or schizophrenic, don't take anti's for a week and then go back on the stuff and then take some modafinil along the side and you get one of the best highs that you could ever experience. I call it a "sage high" because you become so filled with clarity it feels like you've ascended beyond humanity. SLAYER
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Molly Wonnerhadging - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:13:37 EST 6lDYRvxj No.133731 Reply
>>133730
It honestly just sounds like you're forcing withdrawal on yourself and then the relief from taking the drugs again is being viewed as a high.

Certain Antiderpessants can get you high.

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- Thu, 13 Aug 2020 15:22:39 EST y+W2bcwU No.133599
File: 1597346559162.jpg -(199575B / 194.90KB, 1200x1207) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Certain Antiderpessants can get you high.
Certain SSRIs can be used recreationally. Depending on which one you have. Fluoxetine (Prozac) acts as an SNDRI at doses of 80mg and higher, and at high doses (120-160 mg with no tolerance.) can give you a moderate Cocaine buzz.

Venlafaxine (Effexor) can also be abused, it very similarly acts as an SNDRI at high dosages, and at 450-750 mg with no tolerance can give you an effect very similar to dextroamphetamine. I've done it myself.

Here for more info:
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ssris/ssris_info2.shtml
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Jeff's Benzos - Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:37:24 EST DMhq4+MI No.133674 Reply
>>133603
Harsh way to put it but it probably isn't a good idea

>>133673
Yeah its probably like most things of this "class" risky and moderate effect. There's really a bunch of other things that aren't studied but i mean people have been doing it for years and they're alright and it actually gets you high not different at an unknown risk
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Lillian Covingshit - Wed, 02 Sep 2020 00:29:55 EST /3klzowo No.133687 Reply
I have bipolar and I can use sertraline to pretty reliably induce manic symptoms even at doses below what people online call "recreational"

that's the only one i've ever gotten other than Lexapro, which is one of the things that triggered bipolar in me to begin with along with really bad ecstasy abuse

they gave it to me to take with an antipsychotic, but i stopped taking the antipsychotic and started taking Lamictal instead, which is amazing, but even on Lamictal i still get those sorts of effects from sertraline
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Hamilton Dartstock - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 23:28:52 EST bMOrf43/ No.133727 Reply
>>133717
Curious, but how’d you get yourself raided?

Air horn huffing general

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- Sat, 29 Aug 2015 19:31:31 EST yG8wyAoI No.124207
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Yall mother fuckers gonna get loud?

My land lord keeps asking me whats with all the noise. I used to tell him it was a sports thing but I think he's getting suspicious. What should I tell him?

What's your favorite brand of horn? I like seachoice. Their cheap and aren't full of bitter shit.

GONNA GIT LOUD!
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Lydia Surryfield - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 12:41:47 EST kVbAj4Ok No.133714 Reply
>>124207

i can't get out of bed without a little huff and my fingers turn blue a lot
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Simon Macklesig - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 19:59:29 EST lcsWHlCU No.133724 Reply
>>133240
I was about to post this, especially since its getting cold out so i won’t be able to go to the Horn Field anymore

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