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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Cacao.

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- Wed, 20 Feb 2019 20:56:33 EST DKd1uvgz No.132093
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Seeing as we've been rolled back to December, we may as well start new discussions again. So cacao. Discuss.
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Phineas Faffingfield - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:31:21 EST FBK+VtEx No.132536 Reply
>>132535
Also, with cacao nibs you don't get the sugar and sugar blunts most of the potential heath benefits. Dark chocolate is borderline scammy in that way, pushed as a health food when it's loaded with refined sugar even in the high cacao %s.
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Jarvis Mommersone - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 18:41:47 EST JdIZIlZN No.132582 Reply
>>132536
Lindt 90% has 14g carbs, I looked at two cacao nibs products where one had 9g carbs and the other had 58g, very strange, I can't account for the difference. And I just checked two more, 30g and 1g. Very weird. I'm doing keto though personally, I don't think the 14g carbs from the Lindt would make much of a difference to anything.

Serious thread

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- Mon, 05 Aug 2019 19:48:02 EST k5R9wsjY No.132559
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Nothing and no-one can stop me from killing myself, I'm going to do it. What I need help with is what I can do to kill myself in my house but not spend money on anything.
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Arron Jolly - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 10:12:29 EST wD5pWP52 No.132562 Reply
Either do or don't op this board is to discuss drugs that don't fit into any other category not a platform for your cries for help.
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Edward Turveycocke - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 10:23:40 EST UhfLhRYL No.132563 Reply
>>132559
Do not be an idiot OP. Drugs and other things can not help you make you feel better. Only when you accept what is in front of you, your past and what has happened can you face the future and move forward.
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Son House - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 19:07:42 EST XvAVxf3D No.132566 Reply
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>>132559
Can I explain something to you
If you are deemed a threat to your self or others
Under the law you can and will be placed on involuntary
stay at a MENTAL INSTITUTION. They will jam you up
in a torture chamber for WEEKS ON END

Dr Nutt's "Alcosynth"

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- Mon, 05 Aug 2019 10:42:38 EST wD5pWP52 No.132557
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Ok i was not sure whether to post this on hooch or other but for a while i have been thinking about how awesome it would be if this "hang over free" alternative to alcohol will actually ever be available to buy,

I feel like Dr David Nutt is trolling us someway but i'm kinda sold to his promising invention. what do you guys think, could he pull this off and become rich as fuck
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Cedric Clottingham - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 13:57:21 EST Nw0/vlhI No.132565 Reply
>>132557
Based on a cursory google search. Also, Dr. Nutt is describing a GABAergic drug that is potent at lower doses than alcohol which doesn't cause hangovers. If I didn't know better, I would think he was describing GBH. It sounds potentially legit though, nothing that he claimed seems out of proportion to what other GABAergic drugs can do.
Pros:
>no hangovers
>fewer calories
>possibly less organ damage
>plateau'ing effects leading to greater safety margin
Neutral:
>unclear as to how close the feeling will be to alcohol
>unsure as to whether it can still produce memory lapses
Cons:
>still a GABAergic drug and WILL cause problems during withdrawal
>easier to take too much of unless all doses come pre-measured
>potential interactions with other CNS depressants will make it easy for media to vilify it after some high profile polydrug use deaths
>might get lambasted in media as rape drug, or worse, actually used as one because of high potency relative to mass unless it has a very distinctive taste
>not enough research to demonstrate long-term effects on the body yet

I wish him the best but it looks like this stuff has a pretty steep hill to climb.

Interesting spice stories

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- Tue, 16 Jul 2019 22:03:27 EST eVFzNCW4 No.132498
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Let's share the interesting stories we know or tell about smoking spice. We know we all have one.

My story begins with me in my freshman college year in a new town. This was around 2010 so spice was just now becoming big in the country I'm from(Romania) due to the legal shenanigans spice can benefit from to go under radars(sold as potpourri and incense and such). As such, there was a literal hole in the wall store meters away from my apartment that sold a bag of this stuff called "Katana," that was obviously made locally by some capitalist gogetters, at around 2 euros a bag. One bag contained around 0.1 grams, but that actually comes out to about 3 spliffs, each of which will fucking send you to the moon and back.
So there I was buying this stuff for the first time, around 4 days or so after just having moved in, with a few of my friends from back home, that were also doing college. We bought like 5 bags, and used them all to roll one spliff. I fucking chimped the fuck out.
It started with these intense waves of impending fucking doom, I was looking at the guys around me on the couch and told everybody to "STOP SMOKING, SOMETHING'S WRONG," which everyone kind of ignored. Then I immediately felt sick to my stomach and ran into the bathroom. I didn't puke, but i had a pounding headache and a really strong panic attack. I had never had a panic attack before then, and as you can imagine I thought I was fucking dying. I kept hallucinating that my internal organs were exploding, and was generally completely fucked up, wailing and howling over the toilet. I spend about half an hour doing that, and in the meantime one of my friends, a lot of whom were shitting themselves at this point, closed the lights in the bathroom, which basically made my head fucking explode with pain. Which was strange, because usually you get light-related headache if you add a light source, not if you remove one. Anyway, I got up a few minutes later and immediately went to sleep.
About 5 hours later, I woke up and I was fine. I was more than fine, I was fucking baked out of my mind. And I remained baked out of my mind for another 3 full days after that incident, and then nothing bad ever happened again during the years I smoked spice from that point onward. Interestingly enough, I was the only one out of 7 or 8 people to trip out. One of my closest friends, that has smoked more than me, basically had a laugh about the whole thing and finished the thing himself after everyone saw me go batshit, and he had a laugh about the whole situation and was unfazed.
This was the beginning of the happiest time of my life, that lasted for about 3 years. Every day was pure bliss, and later several other entrepreneurs would pop up, and drive to your house with your spice order at any time of day or night, and it was all fucking dirt cheap. It never stopped blowing my mind with every spliff. Those were wild times. You can't find the stuff as easily anymore now though, and everyone has been indoctrinated against it, especially potheads. I smoke weed now, and absolutely everyone looks at me dumbfounded when I tell them that I would rather be smoking spice instead of weed, and that it is better in every way.

So that's my story. I'm interested if anyone else has had similar(or worse) experiences with it that they consider lifechanging.
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Ian Brungerwot - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 21:06:46 EST ESclbhMk No.132522 Reply
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>>132498
I miss some of the earliest noids, especially the 1st and 2nd gens. Some notable ones later in the series but the significant increase in strength and toxicity while a reduction in duration made them too dangerous to play with. I started with spice but soon sourced the pure active ingredient and did the pure compound for 10 years, on and off. Eventually my sources went dark, my last but most reliable supplier disappeared a month ago. I'm quite sad but it's time to move on from noids as bud will be sold recreationally starting next year. The thing is, noids are such a different beast that it might be compared to bud a lot but it's effects are so radically intense, it's a different experience all together. I will agree though, those early days of the RC wild west a decade ago were some of the funnest times I've had, exploring the psychoverse.
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Fucking Drittinglire - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 23:20:36 EST 3SGpsltX No.132530 Reply
>>132522
I feel like that graph is behind a couple years but maybe I was just deeper in the scene back in those days than most people
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Wesley Wuddlemedging - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 05:45:06 EST paI3yvTy No.132531 Reply
>>132522
Ahhh JWH018 what a wonderful time, used to buy that shit as "plant fertilizer" from some Californian dude, roll it in every cigarette and just base it off foil lol

CBD? Fad or fabulous?

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- Wed, 20 Feb 2019 20:57:30 EST DKd1uvgz No.132094
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Does CBD actually work?
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Ebenezer Gendlestock - Fri, 10 May 2019 05:43:29 EST 3SGpsltX No.132257 Reply
>>132131
I fucking told you man 6-8 days

you didn't listen, they never listen
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Jarvis Brunningmatch - Sat, 08 Jun 2019 00:48:37 EST DQzhhusr No.132332 Reply
>>132131
was it bad or good? Im so fucking confused/curious lol
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Nathaniel Diffingford - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 23:03:34 EST 1cYhbdII No.132520 Reply
>>132094
Before I say this: I have schizophrenia. Stable and on medication with no symptoms. There have been 3 occasions where I took a relatively high dose of CBD and definitely got a psychoactive effect beyond relaxation. I wouldn't quite call it a marijuana high because I got completely nuts on cannabis, but I've found that I get diminishing returns if I take more. In other words, a low dose leaves me relaxed and chill, and a high dose gives me a strong degree of anxiety and derealization.

I'm committing suicide tonight

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- Sat, 08 Jun 2019 13:22:27 EST 5CKx5nt/ No.132333
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Hey, been a long time since I've posted on here. I'm very depressed and plan on committing suicide later tonight using difluroethane. It's the most common propellant/hydroflurocarbon used in compressed air aerosol cans.

Basically I'm giving myself sudden sniffer's death syndrome. Now, I'm very concerned. Somebody with decent knowledge, please tell me.


How painful is it? I believe my heart may actually explode. I'm very nervous. Please give me a little more information.

I enjoy the high difluoroethane causes, but will the intoxication still be pleasant at that concentration? Will It numb the pain?

I've read the asphyxiation is very painful. Somebody please help me.
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Albert Dingerwitch - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 04:31:41 EST qIrfrJZG No.132505 Reply
this thread still being around and unlocked is peak /other/
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m - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 20:19:24 EST ATRf7WSg No.132506 Reply
>>132333

I don't support suicide, but the only methods of suicide that don't suck are using a helium/nitrogen exit bag (I think helium is supposedly less shitty) or shooting yourself in the head either through the roof of your mouth or between your eyes (NEVER from the temple/side of your head) with preferably a rifle round or shotgun slug, but at least with 00 buckshot if it's a shotgun, or a 9mm round or larger with a handgun (so a regular .38 revolver is too weak to be advisable). Whatever you do, don't shoot yourself with a birdshot round in your shotgun or else you'll turn your face and head into one huge gaping wound with no face left but you'll still be alive.

Hanging probably sucks dick for 30secs even if you wear handcuffs behind your back, and cutting yourself is never a given and you totally not be a fun experience. Drug OD is NEVER guaranteed and seriously is never the way to go.

Personally I think leaving a corpse with a gunshot wound is a total dick move to your family and especially anyone that has to find you. So if you're ever that serious, buy and use an exit bag setup.

That being said, I've experienced years of depression and I'll tell you it's only temporary and you likely need therapy and medication. Don't do yourself in. Just stop doing horrible excuses for drugs and step it up.

The only gas worth inhaling is room temp nitrous oxide in a balloon mixed with a little bit of regular air that contains oxygen.
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Thomas Worthinggold - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:56:42 EST iYIR+zM9 No.132512 Reply
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. We care about you OP, but we're also obligated to tell you to consume any and all drugs being discussed. This is /other/ after all.

Be safe, use drugs to make living more enjoyable, not to rush death. It'll come either way.

Motherwort (Leonurus cardiaca)

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- Sat, 20 Jul 2019 05:22:35 EST CDu0lKZO No.132508
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Hi everyone!

Who here has experimented with motherwort? Maybe you could share your experience and describe preparation techniques, dosages (both therapeutic/nootropic and psychoactive) and the effects that you felt.

Thanks!

Ephedra Plant aka (naturally occurring stimulants)

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- Mon, 20 Aug 2018 13:00:21 EST ufe6PF4x No.131718
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The ephedra plant grows wild where I live. Let me show you it, maybe you can harvest some if you can identify it and do your research like I did.

https://erowid.org/plants/ephedra/ephedra.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedra

https://www.encyclopedia.com/medicine/drugs/pharmacology/ephedra
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William Brookbury - Tue, 21 Aug 2018 10:10:15 EST 5pNQ2YsG No.131731 Reply
>>131729
Probably continue to pray for it's holy existence.

I only drink the tea form of ephedra. I think I'll wait until spring for it to get right chemically again.
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Martha Chidgefoot - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:00:26 EST i+y2IaJt No.132460 Reply
This post is old but I’m visiting the desert for the next month and went looking for ephedra because I saw this thread. Sure enough I found some. I chopped it up and made tea out of about a tbsp of fresh stems. Added some lemon juice and honey too. It didn’t taste like much but it sure worked. Was a similar effect to drinking strong coffee but it didn’t last as long. Pretty cool.
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Ian Dussleworth - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:05:41 EST ddfNTixH No.132462 Reply
>>132460
OP here, I'm glad someone was able to try it out! Ephedra seems to be one of those not well known plants.

Weird preferences

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- Fri, 07 Jun 2019 13:52:39 EST IdljZDq4 No.132331
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Didn't know where to post this, but I’ve personally never been too big a fan of cannabis. Shit just made me paranoid but that was about it. Maybe it’s different for some other people, but for me that’s about it. But personally, I’ve always had a love for adderall and vyvanse as well as pretty much any other stimulant (including benzedrex and sudafed). But I’ve also reacted pretty well with deliriants (note that I’ve never taken psychedelics/hallucinogens before, so I have no experience with them). Deliriants aren’t for most people, but I’ve personally reacted well with them and enjoyed DPH, Mirtazapine and myristicin (from nutmeg). What are your preferences? Any recommendations on anything better to try? I’ve read that one trip report on Datura of that guy who was kinda like me and enjoyed deliriants, but started off taking smaller doses of it (like smoking the leaves over an open fire) just to get some of it just enough for a mild high, although Datura is pretty dangerous from what I’ve heard.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 12:18:44 EST ZN11u+84 No.132379 Reply
>>132365
>a few drops
So you have no idea how much you took. This plant requires skilled hands even to harvest properly.
>muh overdose
No, you had a drug interaction by mixing it with DXM. The fact that effects lasted under 24hours is proof you did not overdose on datura, since a healthy trip lasts at least 36.
eh, not trying to be a dick. Just woke up, early, no weed. If you give some more details, I could help you figure out what happened.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 12:23:43 EST ZN11u+84 No.132381 Reply
>>132379
>under 24 hours
I misread the post I was responding to there. My apologies for posting before the morning shit.
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Molly Duzzlestock - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 06:09:55 EST SniuK/HJ No.132449 Reply
>>132331
Weirldy enough, I almost never got anti-anxiety effecta from alcohol. I have still drank a lot in my life and maybe experienced disinhibition a few times.

Cigarettes also make me anxious instead of reducing anxiety.

I have only done mdma twice and both of the times I felt tired. It was very euphoric, but I had virtually no energy. It was even more sedating than weed for me.

Tried u47700 a few times (opi RC) and it just got me very nauseous and disinhibited. If I stood up I would just vomit.

Nootropics general

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- Sun, 28 Jan 2018 04:55:49 EST PHla0GsA No.130726
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We don't have a board for it so why not put it here. Piracetam, phenibut, modafinil, L-theanine, atomoxetine, etc...

Discuss stacks here, discuss individual use here, discuss long-term effects here. It's time to take back /other/ from the folks getting loud and boofing jenkem!
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Betsy Chibblebury - Wed, 01 Aug 2018 22:00:52 EST NOGDG9CA No.131636 Reply
>>131578
Overall, it helps me treat my bipolar disorder symptoms.
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Rebecca Furringway - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 10:12:37 EST aE2YjQh3 No.132443 Reply
>>130990
I got this effect as well, however I needed to take at least 2.5g of PEA for it to do anything. It was like MDMA and yet not MDMA.
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Nicholas Suvingstone - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 12:49:24 EST G37tt8It No.132446 Reply
>>130812
I've noticed that effect with oxiracetam. I used to have the kind of memory that made school a joke, but a long period of DPH abuse and a weeklong fever in the hospital set me back a ways. For a few days after taking oxiracetam, I'll feel how I used to feel and be able to remember things extremely easily. That said, I think a huge part of that is my heavy reliance on mnemonic devices - once the drug wears off, the work I put in to remember information is still there.
How exactly did the Huperzine A feel? Was it very stimulating or was it more like clear-headedness you get from most racetams?

>>131260
Strangely enough, I agree. Oxiracetam makes you slightly emotionally numb and it's REALLY easy to obsess over things in a harmful way on it.
Also, aniracetam gives me hella road rage. Not when I'm on it: while the drug is taking effect I feel completely emotionally numb, but in a good way. As soon as it wears off I am a complete asshole because of the emotional whiplash. Thankfully, I'm driving in Boston so absolutely nobody notices.
What's all this about noopept?

Betel Nut

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- Wed, 22 May 2019 22:52:36 EST tU/jBjAe No.132272
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So, I have lime and betel nuts. If you don't know, these are really hard nuts that are chewed on pacific islands and give a feeling a bit like tobacco or khat but different entirely and unique to these nuts.

So, I know I use the lime somehow to soften the nut when I chew it, but I've only seen people chew them, not actually chewed them myself. Any tips to chew like a native?
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Molly Heblingshit - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 00:13:45 EST XSLc98So No.132435 Reply
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>>132357
Betel nut seems to be popular with impoverished or low income people. The shit was super cheap over there. It was like 8 nuts for a dollar. The effects were way too mild for me as a tobacco user. If you're poor and stuck on an island you can walk in 45 min I guess I can get using it but God damn is it bad for you. Everybody seemed to use it and you could tell the chronic users because their mouths were super fucked up.
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Augustus Fuckledidging - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:37:32 EST 8qifQ95q No.132436 Reply
>>132272

I'm sure you know already op that this really isn't a super healthy habit to get into, so no lectures. Cancer and such is a real risk etc.

But to chewing. I'm no native, but used to chew a fair bit as a sub for cigs after I switched to vaping.. If you've got dried, it's semi-likely it'll have at least a little lime on the outside already depending where you're from. If not and you feel wary of the caustic mess, baking soda is a much weaker but safer sub. Ime the best way not to ruin your teeth is to crack the nuts in half with a rock or hammer(or at least scrape a few layers off by gumming them for a bit then using a knife) and soak in warm/hotish water for a few hrs. Start with 3/4 to one nut and see how you feel. I found after the first in a day you don't feel much but I dunno if that's a common thing or just me, but I feel, like make that first one count. Stay safe yo, they will destroy your teeth if you aren't careful, and I don't mean long term staining
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Augustus Goggleperk - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 12:19:16 EST ZN11u+84 No.132445 Reply
>>132436
There's likely a genetic factor. Does the heavy usage spread across racial groups in the regions?

Caffeine Induced Hallucinations

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- Sat, 22 Jun 2019 01:14:16 EST IgqBG54K No.132410
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> "High caffeine consumption has been linked to an increase in the likelihood of experiencing auditory hallucinations. A study conducted by the La Trobe University School of Psychological Sciences revealed that as few as five cups of coffee a day could trigger the phenomenon. " -wikipedia

Do you have any experience with this happening to you? Does god talk to you while you are drinking big brew of Satan juice?
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Edward Fonkinmene - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 00:30:26 EST fCfGtYNr No.132417 Reply
>>132410
I get slight one's usually they follow something noisy and they are triggered by drinking over 4 or 5 coffees in a row I'll turn a sink off and here the faint voice of a man or I'll take ear buds out to hear a woman yawning stuff like that. It's only happened a few times tho.
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Hugh Pembledale - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 12:40:26 EST 1+lBsPtY No.132439 Reply
>>132410
After I stayed up 3+ days and was drinking a shitton of caffeine I got mild hallucinations, thought people were following me on the walk home (wind rustling leaves) and when I hid in my room I thought branches tapping the window were people trying to break into my room. But there may have been factors other than the caffeine involved.
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Augustus Hullerway - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 11:17:17 EST wdh+w8ga No.132444 Reply
>>132410
I had a couple auditory hallucinations during heavy coffee use (6 - 10 cups) for over a year. I thought they were from the lack of sleep because I was average about 5 hours a night. Glad to see it's not unknown

buproprion + lamotrigine

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- Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:58:20 EST qIrfrJZG No.132429
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Do you think that taking lamotrigine mitigates the seizure risk of buproprion when taken in conjunction with stimulants, alcohol, psychedelics, tramadol, etc.? I'm taking 200mg of lamotrigine along with 150mg XR of buproprion, potentially might move up to 300mg XR.

What do you think the interactions of these two drugs on other drugs would be? As far as I can ascertain, there are very few interactions with lamotrigine. Buproprion has quite a few well-known drug-drug interactions because of its enzyme inhibition and the aforementioned lowering of the seizure threshold, but vastly fewer than SSRIs and MAOIs (which is part of the reason I went with it, plus SSRI side-effects are unlivable for me)

This is honestly an "I would always eat the cat food" moment, nothing I learn here will stop me from doing other drugs, I'm mostly worried about taking something and it doing nothing, but also some potential peace of mind knowing that lamotrigine protects against seizures.
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Hugh Pembledale - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 12:36:41 EST 1+lBsPtY No.132438 Reply
>>132429
I've been prescribed 200mg lamotrigine and 150mg bupropion before concurrently and used stims, and alcohol shouldn't increase seizure risk. Stay away from tramadol though that is ill advised, depending on how you're dosing that could give you a seizure. I think psychedelics will be fine. PS I am not a doctor and this is not good medical advice
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Phyllis Bubberville - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 01:30:33 EST VHMU1u2t No.132440 Reply
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>>132429
I take this combo, works well with stimulants. I wouldn't suggest psychedelics or Tramadol (I took some acid 2 weeks ago and had a straight up panic attack, thought I was having a seizure).
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Reuben Duttingdock - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 19:16:51 EST qIrfrJZG No.132441 Reply
>>132438
>alcohol shouldn't increase seizure risk

Habitual use does, as does binge drinking. I don't know exactly why. I think it's because when the alcohol leaves your system there's a kind of rebound effect before levels of certain neurotransmitters return to normal. The brain likes to keep itself in equilibrium so it typically increases production of neurotransmitters to counteract the effects of drugs, and these remain in the brain much longer than the drug itself and affect brain functioning.

>>132440
Maybe the panic attack was more a psychological thing since you knew the potential was there. I'm pretty experienced but I haven't tripped in almost a year now so it'd be interesting to try it again.

safe solvents/alcohols to consume

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- Tue, 11 Jun 2019 20:09:26 EST qIrfrJZG No.132349
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I know none of these are "safe" because even ethanol is neurotoxic, but lets just say a similar safety profile to alcohol. I'm looking into 1,4-Butanediol and GBL, the former seems way easier to get as it's used in cosmetics. I've heard with GBL, like GHB, you know have to fill out DEA requests to legally purchase it. I'm willing to semi-legally purchase it, i.e. just not tell the DEA, but I don't know how big of a crime that is.

Also looking into higher alcohols like 2m2b and propanol, which are supposed to theoretically be even safer than ethanol. Anyone have experience with them? Are they qualitatively different than ethanol or just more potent? Is the high cleaner? Is the taste bearable?

Lastly, and I know this the most dubious, thinking of going about getting ether/chloroform. Are there any other solvents that are as safe(ish) as these two are? I know they're not safe per say but they're a lot better than most other solvents I've read about like toluene, HFCs, etc.

Would like to know more about this subject in general and especially would like to know about chemicals which I haven't mentioned, because I've pretty much said all the ones I know.
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Eliza Pankinbury - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:43:18 EST 6v9BEzqG No.132407 Reply
>>132369
You are so right about chloroform being absolutely disgusting.

I was told that chloroform has a better smell and taste than ether. Either the smell doesnt bother them or they just lied to me. First time I smelt that I almost gagged. It has a sickly sweet smell to it, and huffing it gets that horrible taste in your mouth. I'd rather huff gasoline than chloroform.
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Molly Heblingshit - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 00:06:05 EST XSLc98So No.132434 Reply
>>132349
From my understanding you need a business license to purchase GBL in the states 1,4 bdo is still available and is awesome. I feel like a crack down is going to come soon because this shit is starting to show up on Amazon. Beware of adulturants as mentioned before 90% purity can be 10% shit that will kill you due to how it is synthesized
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Hugh Pembledale - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 12:29:29 EST 1+lBsPtY No.132437 Reply
>>132407
imo ether is far more disgusting, it has this god awful cloying taste/smell that you can't get out of your mouth for hours. not saying chloroform is pleasant but ether is even worse.

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