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Pain relief substances

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- Wed, 07 Aug 2019 21:24:48 EST 39+if3d5 No.132567
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So far kratom works great for pain relief, what more natural substances are good for pain? Kratom does other things more than pain relief and supresses some things ,... is there any other miracle drug out there like this
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John Morringdag - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 03:53:32 EST UzDAggtB No.132686 Reply
recreational doses of tianeptine. tianeptine sodium if you want a more hardcore hour and a half long opi high, or tianeptine acid or tianeptine sulfate for a somewhat less intense 2 and a half hour opi buzz. great to supplement with kratom.
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John Morringdag - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 03:54:06 EST UzDAggtB No.132687 Reply
also combine this with a decent dose of phenibut and you'll be totally legally faded as fuck

Axe Chill Body Spray

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- Wed, 28 Aug 2019 20:56:09 EST v6hsejpE No.132659
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So I've been seeing ads for this stuff lately, claiming it lowers your body temperature when you apply it, turns out it's because it's mostly denatured alcohol and the alcohol evaporation is what does the cooling

I know you can already huff axe, and you can already get drunk off alcohol in stuff like hand sanitizers, but have they really combined these two great highs so they can get you high together? Can you drink this shit?
If you huff it, would it be any different from normal axe?
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Angus Bledgechetch - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 17:39:55 EST eXEuLGR4 No.132683 Reply
Why not just drink cheap vodka and huff butane? Not that butane isn't extremely unhealthy, but you might as well huff additive free butane rather than huffing the butane + denatured alcohol + other shit from that deodorant

CBD crystals

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 01:26:09 EST GtgQLuIr No.132604
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experiences with this? how are the "effects" compared to cbd oil? is it effective if you just swallow it also
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Ian Ciddlesane - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 10:15:56 EST dOI6WXu1 No.132605 Reply
>>132604
From what I hear it just makes you a little sleepy. Not even in a knockout way, but it is good for its uses
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Jack Feffingstone - Tue, 27 Aug 2019 12:59:13 EST NjBK1E9R No.132654 Reply
>>132604
It's just the refined CBD that the wholesalers dilute into oil and then markup to absurd heights. 1/2 gram cbd + oil = $400 worth of product for about $25 (including cost of oil, labeling, bottles, and cbd.) for the retailers.

Phenibut

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- Mon, 20 May 2019 23:59:49 EST 3mgJ7ePw No.132263
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Wondering who else is taking Phenibut here. Just started on 250-500mg and noticing some sedating and relaxing effects. Wondering what therapeutic effects might be possible past the 250-500mg dosage range.
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Emma Blonkinnitch - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 14:52:49 EST FRl0pfhw No.132610 Reply
>>132263
literally came to this board to ask about phenibut
stuff is great, it makes me love being alive, more confident, more motivation, zero anxiety, better sleep, etc etc etc
however i was wondering if anyone has a relatively tried&true method of dosing. i was taking 2000-3000mg every other day but tolerance builds up fast and coming off it is painful. is it better to take it a few days in a row then take a while off, or to just dose once or twice a week?
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Fanny Cabberdock - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 00:47:24 EST bKrF08Uj No.132628 Reply
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anyone here dose f-phenibut? it's good shit that kicks in fast, and is awesome for social stuff, but i often get aching joints, or random other pains. what gives?

can't do it any more than twice a week max though, but with phenibut i guess that's to be expected. i learned the hard way because i thought cycling my downers would prevent addiction to any one thing (wrong, you get addicted to all of them).

i still take it every once in a while, but only once a month, if that.
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James Hemmlemeg - Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:05:37 EST yfecLod+ No.132632 Reply
>>132610
For expanding your social circle/working on treating anxiety, use it at low doses continually for a single month while undergoing cognitive behavioral therapy and then immediately discontinue using it. This is how the drug is used in the former USSR where it is prescribed for anxiety. Tolerance takes some time to dissipate. Since you already have something of a tolerance and usage pattern, if you wanted to do this you would probably need to take a few weeks/months off.
For recreational use, take your dose once a week MAX, but it's much better if you wait 2 weeks+. Treat it sort of like you might treat ecstasy (the after effects can sometimes be like the Tuesday blues,) except know that you're not waiting for a biochemical to build up in your system but instead you're waiting to prevent yourself from becoming addicted.

WHAT ARE THOOOSE

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- Sat, 17 Aug 2019 15:18:50 EST qIrfrJZG No.132608
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the rc site i use, in addition to having dozens and dozens of popular NPS's, also has some interesting ones, I'm trying to find out what the fuck some of these are that google turns up nothing for

>ethyl 3-[[(4-chlorophenyl)methyl-[(5-nitrothiophen-2-yl)methyl]amino]methyl]pyrrolidine-1-carboxylate
>2-Chloro-4-({1-[5-(4-cyanophenyl)-1,3,4-oxadiazol-2-yl]-2-hydroxypropyl}amino)-3-methylbenzonitrile
>(17a,20E)-17,20-[(1-Methoxyethylidene)bis(oxy)]-3-oxo-19-norpregna- 4,20-diene-21-carboxylic Acid Methyl Ester
>ISRIB
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Hedda Blerryshaw - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 07:00:08 EST Nzxu2iUg No.132609 Reply
>>132608
  1. 3,4-Ethyl,Chloro-PNP (similar too α-PVT/α-PVP etc. line of chemicals.)
  2. Cocaine analogue (Similar too RTI-177 & HPBE (hydroxypropylbenzoylecgonine)
  3. Likely a decent too very potent opioid. Seems to based on Thebaine.
  4. Integrated Stress Response Inhibitor - A Nootropic it seems.

Please take this with a huge grain of salt. This was basically a jigsaw puzzle with my limited chemistry knowledge.

Zolpidem/Ambien

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- Wed, 03 Apr 2019 23:14:28 EST AwQXoj6O No.132177
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I recently got a lot of ambien from a Dr. I trying to figure out what the right dose is for me to trip. I am currently on 20mg. I feel very inebriated, not much trippy effects though. Words seem to come off the screen as a type them but that's about it.

Any advice with this drug? Past experiences?
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Emma Brundlespear - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:37:25 EST b4w/3EI+ No.132592 Reply
I was on that shit for ten years. More ambien won't give you more effects, it will just knock you out and make you lose your memory. You have to potentiate it.
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Clara Bingerwater - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 22:21:13 EST Q5+MfNZE No.132597 Reply
>>132201
>>132514
Yeah, Zopiclone is one of the very few "recreational" drugs that my doc is happy to prescribe. He claims it is his "favourite sleeping pill" also while ignoring the fact that it gets you high as fuck.
It's been a while since I've been on it, and also I've never done Ambien so I can't really compare.
What I'm trying to say is that it should be easy enough to get a script for it, if you're interested, the doc refuses to prescribe benzos due to the nasty addiction and side effects they cause, which Zopiclone apparently lacks.
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Augustus Brezzlewill - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 05:57:27 EST OYMYMhXy No.132599 Reply
>>132532
Try mirtazapine. Is good for racing thoughts and will usually be sleeping in ten minutes. As a benefit it is an anti-depressant, that is kinder than z-drugs.
Which sleep can be simply 8 hours like clockwork. Of if needed 5 hours of sleep and have to wake up, you are usually able to wake up and drowsyness may be gone in 20 minutes with a lot of energy at that.

Psoriasis is pretty bad

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- Sun, 28 Jul 2019 04:06:57 EST 6j5w3stg No.132527
File: 1564301217390.jpg -(214642B / 209.61KB, 1003x1417) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Psoriasis is pretty bad
I was on a regime of Clobetasol Shampoo day one. Ketoconazole shampoo day two. Selenium Sulfide day three. And repeat. Due to how my dandruff is psoriasis and stress related. I had to begin adding a warm bath with diluted vinegar on the fourth day with just a simple wash (I used to do a cap of bleach diluted in the warm water, but I began to get irritation from it since it was too strong). I added Sacylic Acid shampoo to the mix. So I have an extra day to not agitate my more delicate than fine china skin with the vinegar water since I began to suffer some rashes akin bleach baths. My insurance also began to be fickle refusing to pay for my clobetasol shampoo. Anyone know an alternative I could bring up with my health care provider or maybe a place I can find it for cheap without the prescription since I look like a post apolayptic lizard man if I even break my regime once. Pic not related, I just really like Scathach from FGO.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Emma Brundlespear - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:38:06 EST b4w/3EI+ No.132593 Reply
Try reducing stress.

Anxiety

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- Fri, 25 May 2018 09:34:52 EST cD/wLyAg No.131340
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What is a good, healthy alternative to Benzos? I need something against anxiety.
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 20:07:57 EST UXcGUJYj No.132577 Reply
Valerian root is the only one I've found that actually works and doesn't feel unhealthy or addictive.
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Cedric Bammlebeck - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 22:01:22 EST qIrfrJZG No.132579 Reply
>>132577
Valerian root is probably the single best thing I've found that you can buy almost anywhere in a pinch if you have literally nothing else for a comedown and you don't want to drink for whatever reason. Antihistamines suck for this and usually just make things worse.
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Thomas Buckleridge - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 14:30:09 EST R8Aznk4+ No.132590 Reply
>>132426
Seconding this, mulungu is wonderful and doesn't seem addictive at all ime. Gets active around 1-2 grams

Cacao.

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- Wed, 20 Feb 2019 20:56:33 EST DKd1uvgz No.132093
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Seeing as we've been rolled back to December, we may as well start new discussions again. So cacao. Discuss.
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Phineas Faffingfield - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:31:21 EST FBK+VtEx No.132536 Reply
>>132535
Also, with cacao nibs you don't get the sugar and sugar blunts most of the potential heath benefits. Dark chocolate is borderline scammy in that way, pushed as a health food when it's loaded with refined sugar even in the high cacao %s.
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Jarvis Mommersone - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 18:41:47 EST JdIZIlZN No.132582 Reply
>>132536
Lindt 90% has 14g carbs, I looked at two cacao nibs products where one had 9g carbs and the other had 58g, very strange, I can't account for the difference. And I just checked two more, 30g and 1g. Very weird. I'm doing keto though personally, I don't think the 14g carbs from the Lindt would make much of a difference to anything.

Serious thread

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- Mon, 05 Aug 2019 19:48:02 EST k5R9wsjY No.132559
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Nothing and no-one can stop me from killing myself, I'm going to do it. What I need help with is what I can do to kill myself in my house but not spend money on anything.
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Arron Jolly - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 10:12:29 EST wD5pWP52 No.132562 Reply
Either do or don't op this board is to discuss drugs that don't fit into any other category not a platform for your cries for help.
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Edward Turveycocke - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 10:23:40 EST UhfLhRYL No.132563 Reply
>>132559
Do not be an idiot OP. Drugs and other things can not help you make you feel better. Only when you accept what is in front of you, your past and what has happened can you face the future and move forward.
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Son House - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 19:07:42 EST XvAVxf3D No.132566 Reply
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>>132559
Can I explain something to you
If you are deemed a threat to your self or others
Under the law you can and will be placed on involuntary
stay at a MENTAL INSTITUTION. They will jam you up
in a torture chamber for WEEKS ON END

Dr Nutt's "Alcosynth"

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- Mon, 05 Aug 2019 10:42:38 EST wD5pWP52 No.132557
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Ok i was not sure whether to post this on hooch or other but for a while i have been thinking about how awesome it would be if this "hang over free" alternative to alcohol will actually ever be available to buy,

I feel like Dr David Nutt is trolling us someway but i'm kinda sold to his promising invention. what do you guys think, could he pull this off and become rich as fuck
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Cedric Clottingham - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 13:57:21 EST Nw0/vlhI No.132565 Reply
>>132557
Based on a cursory google search. Also, Dr. Nutt is describing a GABAergic drug that is potent at lower doses than alcohol which doesn't cause hangovers. If I didn't know better, I would think he was describing GBH. It sounds potentially legit though, nothing that he claimed seems out of proportion to what other GABAergic drugs can do.
Pros:
>no hangovers
>fewer calories
>possibly less organ damage
>plateau'ing effects leading to greater safety margin
Neutral:
>unclear as to how close the feeling will be to alcohol
>unsure as to whether it can still produce memory lapses
Cons:
>still a GABAergic drug and WILL cause problems during withdrawal
>easier to take too much of unless all doses come pre-measured
>potential interactions with other CNS depressants will make it easy for media to vilify it after some high profile polydrug use deaths
>might get lambasted in media as rape drug, or worse, actually used as one because of high potency relative to mass unless it has a very distinctive taste
>not enough research to demonstrate long-term effects on the body yet

I wish him the best but it looks like this stuff has a pretty steep hill to climb.

Interesting spice stories

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- Tue, 16 Jul 2019 22:03:27 EST eVFzNCW4 No.132498
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Let's share the interesting stories we know or tell about smoking spice. We know we all have one.

My story begins with me in my freshman college year in a new town. This was around 2010 so spice was just now becoming big in the country I'm from(Romania) due to the legal shenanigans spice can benefit from to go under radars(sold as potpourri and incense and such). As such, there was a literal hole in the wall store meters away from my apartment that sold a bag of this stuff called "Katana," that was obviously made locally by some capitalist gogetters, at around 2 euros a bag. One bag contained around 0.1 grams, but that actually comes out to about 3 spliffs, each of which will fucking send you to the moon and back.
So there I was buying this stuff for the first time, around 4 days or so after just having moved in, with a few of my friends from back home, that were also doing college. We bought like 5 bags, and used them all to roll one spliff. I fucking chimped the fuck out.
It started with these intense waves of impending fucking doom, I was looking at the guys around me on the couch and told everybody to "STOP SMOKING, SOMETHING'S WRONG," which everyone kind of ignored. Then I immediately felt sick to my stomach and ran into the bathroom. I didn't puke, but i had a pounding headache and a really strong panic attack. I had never had a panic attack before then, and as you can imagine I thought I was fucking dying. I kept hallucinating that my internal organs were exploding, and was generally completely fucked up, wailing and howling over the toilet. I spend about half an hour doing that, and in the meantime one of my friends, a lot of whom were shitting themselves at this point, closed the lights in the bathroom, which basically made my head fucking explode with pain. Which was strange, because usually you get light-related headache if you add a light source, not if you remove one. Anyway, I got up a few minutes later and immediately went to sleep.
About 5 hours later, I woke up and I was fine. I was more than fine, I was fucking baked out of my mind. And I remained baked out of my mind for another 3 full days after that incident, and then nothing bad ever happened again during the years I smoked spice from that point onward. Interestingly enough, I was the only one out of 7 or 8 people to trip out. One of my closest friends, that has smoked more than me, basically had a laugh about the whole thing and finished the thing himself after everyone saw me go batshit, and he had a laugh about the whole situation and was unfazed.
This was the beginning of the happiest time of my life, that lasted for about 3 years. Every day was pure bliss, and later several other entrepreneurs would pop up, and drive to your house with your spice order at any time of day or night, and it was all fucking dirt cheap. It never stopped blowing my mind with every spliff. Those were wild times. You can't find the stuff as easily anymore now though, and everyone has been indoctrinated against it, especially potheads. I smoke weed now, and absolutely everyone looks at me dumbfounded when I tell them that I would rather be smoking spice instead of weed, and that it is better in every way.

So that's my story. I'm interested if anyone else has had similar(or worse) experiences with it that they consider lifechanging.
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Ian Brungerwot - Fri, 26 Jul 2019 21:06:46 EST ESclbhMk No.132522 Reply
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>>132498
I miss some of the earliest noids, especially the 1st and 2nd gens. Some notable ones later in the series but the significant increase in strength and toxicity while a reduction in duration made them too dangerous to play with. I started with spice but soon sourced the pure active ingredient and did the pure compound for 10 years, on and off. Eventually my sources went dark, my last but most reliable supplier disappeared a month ago. I'm quite sad but it's time to move on from noids as bud will be sold recreationally starting next year. The thing is, noids are such a different beast that it might be compared to bud a lot but it's effects are so radically intense, it's a different experience all together. I will agree though, those early days of the RC wild west a decade ago were some of the funnest times I've had, exploring the psychoverse.
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Fucking Drittinglire - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 23:20:36 EST 3SGpsltX No.132530 Reply
>>132522
I feel like that graph is behind a couple years but maybe I was just deeper in the scene back in those days than most people
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Wesley Wuddlemedging - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 05:45:06 EST paI3yvTy No.132531 Reply
>>132522
Ahhh JWH018 what a wonderful time, used to buy that shit as "plant fertilizer" from some Californian dude, roll it in every cigarette and just base it off foil lol

CBD? Fad or fabulous?

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- Wed, 20 Feb 2019 20:57:30 EST DKd1uvgz No.132094
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Does CBD actually work?
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Ebenezer Gendlestock - Fri, 10 May 2019 05:43:29 EST 3SGpsltX No.132257 Reply
>>132131
I fucking told you man 6-8 days

you didn't listen, they never listen
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Jarvis Brunningmatch - Sat, 08 Jun 2019 00:48:37 EST DQzhhusr No.132332 Reply
>>132131
was it bad or good? Im so fucking confused/curious lol
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Nathaniel Diffingford - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 23:03:34 EST 1cYhbdII No.132520 Reply
>>132094
Before I say this: I have schizophrenia. Stable and on medication with no symptoms. There have been 3 occasions where I took a relatively high dose of CBD and definitely got a psychoactive effect beyond relaxation. I wouldn't quite call it a marijuana high because I got completely nuts on cannabis, but I've found that I get diminishing returns if I take more. In other words, a low dose leaves me relaxed and chill, and a high dose gives me a strong degree of anxiety and derealization.

I'm committing suicide tonight

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- Sat, 08 Jun 2019 13:22:27 EST 5CKx5nt/ No.132333
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Hey, been a long time since I've posted on here. I'm very depressed and plan on committing suicide later tonight using difluroethane. It's the most common propellant/hydroflurocarbon used in compressed air aerosol cans.

Basically I'm giving myself sudden sniffer's death syndrome. Now, I'm very concerned. Somebody with decent knowledge, please tell me.


How painful is it? I believe my heart may actually explode. I'm very nervous. Please give me a little more information.

I enjoy the high difluoroethane causes, but will the intoxication still be pleasant at that concentration? Will It numb the pain?

I've read the asphyxiation is very painful. Somebody please help me.
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Albert Dingerwitch - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 04:31:41 EST qIrfrJZG No.132505 Reply
this thread still being around and unlocked is peak /other/
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m - Fri, 19 Jul 2019 20:19:24 EST ATRf7WSg No.132506 Reply
>>132333

I don't support suicide, but the only methods of suicide that don't suck are using a helium/nitrogen exit bag (I think helium is supposedly less shitty) or shooting yourself in the head either through the roof of your mouth or between your eyes (NEVER from the temple/side of your head) with preferably a rifle round or shotgun slug, but at least with 00 buckshot if it's a shotgun, or a 9mm round or larger with a handgun (so a regular .38 revolver is too weak to be advisable). Whatever you do, don't shoot yourself with a birdshot round in your shotgun or else you'll turn your face and head into one huge gaping wound with no face left but you'll still be alive.

Hanging probably sucks dick for 30secs even if you wear handcuffs behind your back, and cutting yourself is never a given and you totally not be a fun experience. Drug OD is NEVER guaranteed and seriously is never the way to go.

Personally I think leaving a corpse with a gunshot wound is a total dick move to your family and especially anyone that has to find you. So if you're ever that serious, buy and use an exit bag setup.

That being said, I've experienced years of depression and I'll tell you it's only temporary and you likely need therapy and medication. Don't do yourself in. Just stop doing horrible excuses for drugs and step it up.

The only gas worth inhaling is room temp nitrous oxide in a balloon mixed with a little bit of regular air that contains oxygen.
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Thomas Worthinggold - Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:56:42 EST iYIR+zM9 No.132512 Reply
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. We care about you OP, but we're also obligated to tell you to consume any and all drugs being discussed. This is /other/ after all.

Be safe, use drugs to make living more enjoyable, not to rush death. It'll come either way.

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