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Motherwort (Leonurus cardiaca)

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- Sat, 20 Jul 2019 05:22:35 EST CDu0lKZO No.132508
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Hi everyone!

Who here has experimented with motherwort? Maybe you could share your experience and describe preparation techniques, dosages (both therapeutic/nootropic and psychoactive) and the effects that you felt.

Thanks!

Ephedra Plant aka (naturally occurring stimulants)

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- Mon, 20 Aug 2018 13:00:21 EST ufe6PF4x No.131718
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The ephedra plant grows wild where I live. Let me show you it, maybe you can harvest some if you can identify it and do your research like I did.

https://erowid.org/plants/ephedra/ephedra.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedra

https://www.encyclopedia.com/medicine/drugs/pharmacology/ephedra
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William Brookbury - Tue, 21 Aug 2018 10:10:15 EST 5pNQ2YsG No.131731 Reply
>>131729
Probably continue to pray for it's holy existence.

I only drink the tea form of ephedra. I think I'll wait until spring for it to get right chemically again.
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Martha Chidgefoot - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 17:00:26 EST i+y2IaJt No.132460 Reply
This post is old but I’m visiting the desert for the next month and went looking for ephedra because I saw this thread. Sure enough I found some. I chopped it up and made tea out of about a tbsp of fresh stems. Added some lemon juice and honey too. It didn’t taste like much but it sure worked. Was a similar effect to drinking strong coffee but it didn’t last as long. Pretty cool.
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Ian Dussleworth - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:05:41 EST ddfNTixH No.132462 Reply
>>132460
OP here, I'm glad someone was able to try it out! Ephedra seems to be one of those not well known plants.

Betel Nut

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- Wed, 22 May 2019 22:52:36 EST tU/jBjAe No.132272
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So, I have lime and betel nuts. If you don't know, these are really hard nuts that are chewed on pacific islands and give a feeling a bit like tobacco or khat but different entirely and unique to these nuts.

So, I know I use the lime somehow to soften the nut when I chew it, but I've only seen people chew them, not actually chewed them myself. Any tips to chew like a native?
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Molly Heblingshit - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 00:13:45 EST XSLc98So No.132435 Reply
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>>132357
Betel nut seems to be popular with impoverished or low income people. The shit was super cheap over there. It was like 8 nuts for a dollar. The effects were way too mild for me as a tobacco user. If you're poor and stuck on an island you can walk in 45 min I guess I can get using it but God damn is it bad for you. Everybody seemed to use it and you could tell the chronic users because their mouths were super fucked up.
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Augustus Fuckledidging - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:37:32 EST 8qifQ95q No.132436 Reply
>>132272

I'm sure you know already op that this really isn't a super healthy habit to get into, so no lectures. Cancer and such is a real risk etc.

But to chewing. I'm no native, but used to chew a fair bit as a sub for cigs after I switched to vaping.. If you've got dried, it's semi-likely it'll have at least a little lime on the outside already depending where you're from. If not and you feel wary of the caustic mess, baking soda is a much weaker but safer sub. Ime the best way not to ruin your teeth is to crack the nuts in half with a rock or hammer(or at least scrape a few layers off by gumming them for a bit then using a knife) and soak in warm/hotish water for a few hrs. Start with 3/4 to one nut and see how you feel. I found after the first in a day you don't feel much but I dunno if that's a common thing or just me, but I feel, like make that first one count. Stay safe yo, they will destroy your teeth if you aren't careful, and I don't mean long term staining
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Augustus Goggleperk - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 12:19:16 EST ZN11u+84 No.132445 Reply
>>132436
There's likely a genetic factor. Does the heavy usage spread across racial groups in the regions?

Caffeine Induced Hallucinations

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- Sat, 22 Jun 2019 01:14:16 EST IgqBG54K No.132410
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> "High caffeine consumption has been linked to an increase in the likelihood of experiencing auditory hallucinations. A study conducted by the La Trobe University School of Psychological Sciences revealed that as few as five cups of coffee a day could trigger the phenomenon. " -wikipedia

Do you have any experience with this happening to you? Does god talk to you while you are drinking big brew of Satan juice?
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Edward Fonkinmene - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 00:30:26 EST fCfGtYNr No.132417 Reply
>>132410
I get slight one's usually they follow something noisy and they are triggered by drinking over 4 or 5 coffees in a row I'll turn a sink off and here the faint voice of a man or I'll take ear buds out to hear a woman yawning stuff like that. It's only happened a few times tho.
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Hugh Pembledale - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 12:40:26 EST 1+lBsPtY No.132439 Reply
>>132410
After I stayed up 3+ days and was drinking a shitton of caffeine I got mild hallucinations, thought people were following me on the walk home (wind rustling leaves) and when I hid in my room I thought branches tapping the window were people trying to break into my room. But there may have been factors other than the caffeine involved.
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Augustus Hullerway - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 11:17:17 EST wdh+w8ga No.132444 Reply
>>132410
I had a couple auditory hallucinations during heavy coffee use (6 - 10 cups) for over a year. I thought they were from the lack of sleep because I was average about 5 hours a night. Glad to see it's not unknown

buproprion + lamotrigine

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- Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:58:20 EST qIrfrJZG No.132429
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Do you think that taking lamotrigine mitigates the seizure risk of buproprion when taken in conjunction with stimulants, alcohol, psychedelics, tramadol, etc.? I'm taking 200mg of lamotrigine along with 150mg XR of buproprion, potentially might move up to 300mg XR.

What do you think the interactions of these two drugs on other drugs would be? As far as I can ascertain, there are very few interactions with lamotrigine. Buproprion has quite a few well-known drug-drug interactions because of its enzyme inhibition and the aforementioned lowering of the seizure threshold, but vastly fewer than SSRIs and MAOIs (which is part of the reason I went with it, plus SSRI side-effects are unlivable for me)

This is honestly an "I would always eat the cat food" moment, nothing I learn here will stop me from doing other drugs, I'm mostly worried about taking something and it doing nothing, but also some potential peace of mind knowing that lamotrigine protects against seizures.
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Hugh Pembledale - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 12:36:41 EST 1+lBsPtY No.132438 Reply
>>132429
I've been prescribed 200mg lamotrigine and 150mg bupropion before concurrently and used stims, and alcohol shouldn't increase seizure risk. Stay away from tramadol though that is ill advised, depending on how you're dosing that could give you a seizure. I think psychedelics will be fine. PS I am not a doctor and this is not good medical advice
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Phyllis Bubberville - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 01:30:33 EST VHMU1u2t No.132440 Reply
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>>132429
I take this combo, works well with stimulants. I wouldn't suggest psychedelics or Tramadol (I took some acid 2 weeks ago and had a straight up panic attack, thought I was having a seizure).
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Reuben Duttingdock - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 19:16:51 EST qIrfrJZG No.132441 Reply
>>132438
>alcohol shouldn't increase seizure risk

Habitual use does, as does binge drinking. I don't know exactly why. I think it's because when the alcohol leaves your system there's a kind of rebound effect before levels of certain neurotransmitters return to normal. The brain likes to keep itself in equilibrium so it typically increases production of neurotransmitters to counteract the effects of drugs, and these remain in the brain much longer than the drug itself and affect brain functioning.

>>132440
Maybe the panic attack was more a psychological thing since you knew the potential was there. I'm pretty experienced but I haven't tripped in almost a year now so it'd be interesting to try it again.

safe solvents/alcohols to consume

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- Tue, 11 Jun 2019 20:09:26 EST qIrfrJZG No.132349
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I know none of these are "safe" because even ethanol is neurotoxic, but lets just say a similar safety profile to alcohol. I'm looking into 1,4-Butanediol and GBL, the former seems way easier to get as it's used in cosmetics. I've heard with GBL, like GHB, you know have to fill out DEA requests to legally purchase it. I'm willing to semi-legally purchase it, i.e. just not tell the DEA, but I don't know how big of a crime that is.

Also looking into higher alcohols like 2m2b and propanol, which are supposed to theoretically be even safer than ethanol. Anyone have experience with them? Are they qualitatively different than ethanol or just more potent? Is the high cleaner? Is the taste bearable?

Lastly, and I know this the most dubious, thinking of going about getting ether/chloroform. Are there any other solvents that are as safe(ish) as these two are? I know they're not safe per say but they're a lot better than most other solvents I've read about like toluene, HFCs, etc.

Would like to know more about this subject in general and especially would like to know about chemicals which I haven't mentioned, because I've pretty much said all the ones I know.
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Eliza Pankinbury - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:43:18 EST 6v9BEzqG No.132407 Reply
>>132369
You are so right about chloroform being absolutely disgusting.

I was told that chloroform has a better smell and taste than ether. Either the smell doesnt bother them or they just lied to me. First time I smelt that I almost gagged. It has a sickly sweet smell to it, and huffing it gets that horrible taste in your mouth. I'd rather huff gasoline than chloroform.
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Molly Heblingshit - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 00:06:05 EST XSLc98So No.132434 Reply
>>132349
From my understanding you need a business license to purchase GBL in the states 1,4 bdo is still available and is awesome. I feel like a crack down is going to come soon because this shit is starting to show up on Amazon. Beware of adulturants as mentioned before 90% purity can be 10% shit that will kill you due to how it is synthesized
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Hugh Pembledale - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 12:29:29 EST 1+lBsPtY No.132437 Reply
>>132407
imo ether is far more disgusting, it has this god awful cloying taste/smell that you can't get out of your mouth for hours. not saying chloroform is pleasant but ether is even worse.

Welbutrin and gabapentin abuse

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- Mon, 15 Apr 2019 10:59:54 EST 01nM3DPn No.132204
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Ok so recently I was put on probation so I try to not do drugs in general or only do something that stays in your system for a short time. prescribed welbutrin and gabapentin so i started to research and found that they are sort of abuseable. DO NOT DO WHAT I DO, DO AS I SAY. if you snort welbutrin you do get an effect but you have to snort a lot, 4+ pills depending on strength. this is potentially dangerous bc welbutrin can cause seizures. the effects for me are a slight increase in mood, slightly euphoric and makes me want to talk. Also it gives me an incredible body high, and orgasms are insane. after that it feels like you smoked 2 grams of crack, anxiety and just "cracked out" feeling. I did that and tried 1gram of gabapentin hours after the comedown and i got INSANELY high like I smoked some weed. just thought id share and see what the community thinks. again, id like to stick to your dangerous "underground lab" created street drugs but duty calls and im still looking for an altered state of mind without legal consequences. i dont particularly like this, its just something to do ya know
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Albert Bluzzlelock - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 19:08:33 EST LD2bnOSz No.132409 Reply
>>132210
Fuck kratom man, fuck throwing up every time I wanna get high, fuck the headaches the next day.
Get some Lyrica.
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Edward Fanfield - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 20:09:45 EST vL1PWjSY No.132415 Reply
>>132409
If you're getting sick like that from kratom, you might be doing too much or have some shitty product.

Huffing Question

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- Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:55:37 EST dZ4X3bxW No.132362
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So there's a spay can of this fixative spray shit. It's used as a fixative for finalizing and protecting drawings, pastels, paintings, etc. It's an art material. Can warnings state to use in a well ventilated area, may cause dizziness, fumes are harmful, etc. A while back I was using it to prime sketchbook pages to make the paper stronger and more resilient to wet media. I sprayed the paper in a ventilated room and before letting it dry I brought the book into my room and continued working over the page. Fumes were strong but I ignored them.

Ended up having a mild euphoric effect that night, even felt slightly stimulated and enjoyed interesting, unusual thoughts. I also pissed my wife off because I made the entire upstairs rooms smell like fixative spray.

Well, I'm dry and can't stand sober reality, so there I was at the upstairs open window, having sprayed a wad of tissue paper with the chemical, and holding it up to my snout and breathing deeply inwards for about two to three minutes.

No effect. Nada. Zip. Fucking zero.

My question is why? It had been about 4 or 5 weeks since accidentally tripping on the shit and I would like to repeat the experience intentionally if possible.
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Frederick Pinderdale - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 06:55:24 EST QdVTyDYf No.132387 Reply
>>132383

The half hour is when you are already huffing for a long time and zoned out as fuck.
Yeah it is "enjoyable" or to be honest: wildly euphoric. I understand you don't want or don't care about talking with us, internet chatting is very rarely helpful. But maybe you should seek help from your loved ones.
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Martha Murdfoot - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 07:17:01 EST i/kQlibQ No.132388 Reply
>>132386
Liquid 99.9% toluene is better than a 40% adhesive gel solution, holy fuck. These are the fumes that don't fuck around. These are the talons that rattle this cage.
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Martha Murdfoot - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 15:22:04 EST i/kQlibQ No.132391 Reply
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>>132362
Reporting back with a toluene trip report. The come-up effects can be described as lightheadness, with a slight rushing sensation to it after inhaling the fumes deeply for 30 to 45 seconds from a cloth rag soaked with half a spoonful of liquid. After that, unusual body sensations are felt, with the strangest being localized in the head area. After that, a more generalized intoxication quickly sets in - mild to moderate euphoria, relaxation, a sort of "pleasant apathetic" mood or mindset. After 60 seconds of inhaling, a stronger "trip" resulted, wherein I experienced an altered state that is difficult to accurately describe : no audio/visual hallucination aside from mild visual "shimmering" and then a profound, momentary altered state I can only describe as an "intense, hyper-vivid experience of desa-vu".

Uh, desa-vu. Not sure how to spell this French expression. But yeah. It's definitely a viable escape substance, if only it wasn't so dangerous / harmful.

Blue Lotus

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- Sun, 16 Jun 2019 02:15:56 EST 5EIMbEaG No.132374
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Anyone done Blue Lotus (smoked/tea)?

It contains aporphine, which is apparently psychoactive. I can't find much on the experience (I haven't looked that hard, I'll do more research), except for the fact ancient Egyptians used it to party [1].

Thoughts? Anyone gave any notable experiences?

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymphaea_caerulea
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Ernest Hogglewock - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 12:11:23 EST qrUCFnYZ No.132378 Reply
I've dabbled with it, my friend bought an ounce of it months ago and gave me half when I was on probation.

It's a nice buzz, but not much depth with it. It feels like a nice calming body buzz mostly, but it mixes well with other drugs. I use it instead of cannabis in a bowl with DMT, it adds a lot of clarity and a calming body high.

I didn't do it too much but apparently it mixes really well with alcohol to create a more dreamlike drunk feeling.

Don't expect to get super high on it or anything, these days I mostly use it combined with a little weed as a meditative tool.

It also tastes realllllly good imo. Very floral and sweet, and it smokes well.

The Stash Is A Lie

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- Wed, 12 Jun 2019 09:55:18 EST 2hZAeCH2 No.132352
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It's a myth. The stash doesn't exist. You can't just stash drugs away and have them in a stash. You just end up taking them all and running out. The stash is a lie. It's a myth.
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Ian Shakebury - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:54:38 EST qIrfrJZG No.132354 Reply
That is a mouth watering stash though.

Also I know what you mean but I'm still gonna try. I've been semi-clean for the last 6 months and I've really been exercising moderation and I really want to start fucking with drugs heavy again but like how I did originally before shit went off the rails, and I definitely feel like I can

>inb4 that's what everyone says you dumb fucking junky

Ok a couple things are different. 1. I'm more mature. 2. I'm not in college anymore and I'm not around drugs constantly and I'm not going to pressured into the social role of the guy that does a shitton of drugs. I liked that and it gave me a way to really be myself and fall back on doing a lot of drugs/being high for the reason I'm so weird but that time of my life is over and I'm ready to establish a more meaningful identity not ENTIRELY based around doing drugs, but I think as a symbol of being a free spirit and someone who kind of is a bit out there/eccentric occasional drug use is paramount, not to mention the immense personal benefit I got from it (again, until it went from something that I used to improve my life to something I lived for). 3. I struggled really bad with bipolar, now I'm stable on medication that really doesn't interact with many drugs (Lamictal and buproprion) and when they do it's generally either a positive interaction (because of the buproprion) or a diminished effect (because of the Lamictal) in which case I'll just take more. I was never medically an addict, I was always just self-medicating.
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Betsy Bricklewater - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 07:24:48 EST +Zcl4/Ty No.132355 Reply
>>132352
The secret to having a stash is having most of the stash be made of drugs you don't like, can't take on a regular basis, or drugs that are so cheap that you don't need to worry about running out of them.
Also just look at the picture you posted OP. A bunch of those are clearly there just to pad the numbers or to counteract the effects of other drugs.

is para cresyl methyl ether same as diethyl ether?

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- Thu, 06 Jun 2019 19:33:42 EST 9szNh8JB No.132326
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i want to inhale some either. all the diethyl ether i find is super expensive. i found this for 6 bucks. will this give the same effect as diethyl ether?
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Jenny Perringhall - Tue, 11 Jun 2019 02:11:45 EST 9szNh8JB No.132347 Reply
so im OP, i made this thread. i bought both 30ml of diethyl ether and 30ml of the methyl ether.. the methyl ether does not get me high. the diethyl ether i just huffed my last bit and was surprisingly enjoyable. i thought maybe it would be like duster (a waste of time and brain cells) and hopefully more like nitrous, but its very different from these. the effects last alot longer than i expected. i can see why it was used as anesthesia, you get numb. i just wanted to kick it off my bucket list of drugs since ive been experienced with every mainstream drug for some time.

will i buy it again? no. would i suggest you to try it? .. meh, yeah maybe a couple times, make sure its pure and not starter fluid. but its a decent little buzz. especially if you do enough to actually bounce in and out of consciousness.

still though at the price i found it, youd better off getting some weed or even a 12 pack of beer. just my opinion. hell knowing me (an opiate user) id rather spend it on some pills.

Found drugs?

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- Sun, 26 May 2019 22:29:29 EST 1zbfzwPb No.132279
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Bought a van found this behind center console glove box thing. Is it drugs? Its thin like alcohol i think and theres a white ball in it...?!?!? What could it be? Considering IVing it into my dick to find out. Lol. Jokes.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 30 May 2019 11:57:47 EST ZN11u+84 No.132298 Reply
>>132292
What,withall the traveling you've been doing, you never needed a whiff of easy shitting vapors?

Girl Juice

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!FTPgBqDDy. - Mon, 27 May 2019 04:00:35 EST 3FLnyAg7 No.132282
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Hey /other/, long time.

So I'm looking to make a herbal tea blend. inb4 placebo, I like stacking a bunch of herbs with vaguely related effects together.

I want ingredients that are estrogenic or decrease testosterone/DHT. So far I have:
  • spearmint
  • red clover
  • licorice
  • green tea

Show me what you got.
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dricen !FTPgBqDDy. - Tue, 28 May 2019 16:00:31 EST 3FLnyAg7 No.132293 Reply
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>>132291
tbh 420chan was one of the first places that made me aware of transition back in what. 2008, 2009. amazing where life takes us. ❤️

I've read good things in studies about lingzhi mushroom, too. Chinese/white peony, chaste tree, they're all interesting to look into the activity of wrt. enzymes
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 30 May 2019 12:06:29 EST ZN11u+84 No.132299 Reply
>>132289
No. I have never met anyone who did not have YEARS of training/experience, who did not either fail (lucky ones) or horribly fuck up their body and mind when going trying to fuck with hormonal systems through herbalism, regardless of the specific objective. The level of cascade effects, the requirements for dosing, the individual variables, and the role in mental health of these systems, require someone there to fucking hold your hand and constantly observe the reactions.
Fucking think about whois saying this btw.
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Cornelius Huvingbury - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 08:10:20 EST Nj3/DtP1 No.132321 Reply
Not a tranner myself but I have habitually drunk spearmint, licorice and green teas habitually for many, many years. No impact on my hormones that I can detect, seem to be pretty high test. Doubt this will do anything for you.

Shroom dosage

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- Sat, 13 Apr 2019 11:30:50 EST zlVuHN4+ No.132197
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How many shrooms do you need for a deep trip? I've done 2g of Penis Envy (Cubensis) shrooms before, really felt like a very sedating 100ug dose. Visuals vere nicer, other than that, not much difference. I want to really get into the shroom experience.
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second last - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 11:47:42 EST 01nM3DPn No.132206 Reply
>>132200 ive never done more than 3.5 grams. if you have potent shrooms, there is no need to do more, shrooms are going to almost always give you a strong trip unless youre eating the dollar store brand. once on 3.5 grams i convinced myself that being a potato is great because americans love french fries,
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Eugene Fivingspear - Wed, 08 May 2019 11:03:11 EST UmWIzJTp No.132254 Reply
>>132206
>There is no need to do more

Not everyone is necessarily after the same experience you are though
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 30 May 2019 12:33:20 EST ZN11u+84 No.132304 Reply
>>132254
This argument is as bad as when kids act like they can brag about dosage of lsd they did, when they have no way to know what their blotter paper was dosed at, and don't even know what a pile of fluff looks like. There are too many variables with this fungi. Even with cubes, I've seen bwtches where a single half gram (dry weight) mushroom had more active ingredients than a full 1/8 of average looking cubes grown in the same town by a different grower.
OP!
Just be patient and just slowly graze on a sack of them until you get where you want to go.

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