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Nootropics general

- Sun, 28 Jan 2018 04:55:49 EST PHla0GsA No.130726
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We don't have a board for it so why not put it here. Piracetam, phenibut, modafinil, L-theanine, atomoxetine, etc...

Discuss stacks here, discuss individual use here, discuss long-term effects here. It's time to take back /other/ from the folks getting loud and boofing jenkem!
Jarvis Pinnerfuck - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 07:39:27 EST 9YIq0r6S No.130736 Reply
Ahh yes, the r eddit of drugs. What is the word “nootropics” supposed to stand for if not a marketing tactic? For example phenibut, it’s a GABA b agonist among other things. Why would it fall in this undefined class of “nootropics”?
Phyllis Settingford - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 08:18:31 EST IddYZpTE No.130737 Reply
It seems to have some positive effects on working memory. I agree though, that nootropic is an I'll defined buzzword. I mean, meth is nootropic as fuck.
William Croddlestone - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 14:38:17 EST 9jj6M3hX No.130738 Reply
I take a pira/citocholine mix because it's the cheapest and easiest one I can get hold of here.
Phen seems effective but the temptation to abuse it is too much. I don't need to socialise much anyway.
Henry Trotway - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 00:10:12 EST ikoZVA+c No.130742 Reply
Been on and off phenibut for the better part of two years. I tried a month long T-break and it did less for me than I thought it would. Pretty disappointing that the magic is really going. Realistically I'll probably have to break for at least 2-3 months for it to come back. circlejerk will tell you even longer, but they're more conservative over there.

It's kind of a scary drug in some ways. To have something make you that much more social, empathetic and professionally squared away - with almost no drawbacks? It's just a drug that makes you a better person, period.

Until it wears off and people realize you're just a boring person.
Charles Soffingfuck - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 00:44:58 EST L3I0j8xt No.130743 Reply
>Realistically I'll probably have to break for at least 2-3 months for it to come back.

Why would you think so? In my experience while physical tolerance can be easily decreased (how many grams you need), the mental part always stays and you will never get as high as you want again. I find this works with almost all drugs. It's like music, listen to a song you like for a hundred times and it won't do much for you.

Also, it's interesting how differently phenibut affects people, the only thing it did for me socially was make me a wee bit more chatty, but the social anxiety was barely decreased until doses where I was way too sedated to have a normal conversation. Kind of a catch 22. I may be on the outline, but I'm the least socially anxious sober, even low doses of alcohol or benzos makes it weird to talk with people.
Matilda Crerringfield - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 07:48:10 EST PHla0GsA No.130744 Reply
That's actually a really interesting take on it. Phenibut, for me, has always been a sometimes drug. Never a daily thing, and in fact I try to NEVER dose consecutive days. I know that it does get scary when abused daily, but the trick is to not abuse.

Do NOT use it to make yourself the person you want to be 24/7. Use that powder to become the person you want to be for 12 hours, 1 or 2 days of the week. It's fantastic for parties, social gatherings, and the like. You just need to know that it can't be an everyday thing.

Remember that you are the one talking, not the phenibut! You might be more prone to speaking up in a converasaion
Polly Claybury - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 23:40:54 EST 8N4noGFq No.130745 Reply
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You're right of course.

Anyone will tell you that pheni isn't a drug to be taken on the regular, and they'll cite the usual reasons of tolerance and withdrawal, which are valid.

For me though, it's more of an existential thing. Take relationships for instance. Most women I've been with, and my friends, have described me as pretty cold and distant. I don't mean that in an edgelord way, I'm not proud of it, but I tend to be pretty introverted and really sensitive, which makes me admittedly kind of a spiky, slightly volatile person to be around.

But with phenibut, it all just melts away into a warm glow. Not in the druggie-warm blanket of opiates (which I also enjoy) but just into the genuine enjoyment of regular activity. It makes me feel like how I think a human being ought to feel. But it's also not the truth of who I am, unfortunately.

The withdrawals have never been a big deal for me like it seems to be for a lot of people. The problem arises when I suddenly regress from being the quarterback to being the shady loner. It's like getting into a relationship with a girl when your cock doesn't work, so you take cialis without telling her. Everything works great for weeks, months, years, but eventually, you run out of cialis. Then you have to have a somewhat serious conversation about why your cock stopped working. It's like that, except it's your entire personality instead of just your cock.

Feels bad man.
Lydia Cruttingham - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 12:47:00 EST CYCsz3yI No.130746 Reply

I just acquired about 20g of Phenibut and wonder how I should dose.

I'm male and weigh 78 kg // 171 lb.

What should I take for mild effects like being more sociable?
Polly Claybury - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 12:53:25 EST 8N4noGFq No.130747 Reply
1.5 - 2.0 is a fine first dose to really give you an idea of what the drug is all about without knocking you on your ass. It helps if you haven't eaten at least 2-3 hours prior, and wont eat for at least an hour after.
Reuben Gogglegold - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 12:56:37 EST 9jj6M3hX No.130748 Reply
Someone on another place was extolling the virtues of l-theanine.
Not going to splash out on extracts when it's naturally in green tea. Apparently 1-2% of the weight of dried tea leaves. So a 200mg dose is... 20 grams. That's a lot of green tea. I've ground that much up and put it into my vitamin smoothie to steep for tomorrow morning.
Rebecca Smallhood - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 15:18:11 EST PHla0GsA No.130750 Reply
If you notice anything other than a placebo effect, let us know. I'm convinced that it's what makes the energy from green tea feel cleaner than coffee, but I don't know how much of an effect it'll have solo.
Beatrice Crammerfan - Sun, 04 Feb 2018 06:43:58 EST 9jj6M3hX No.130760 Reply
I will. Right now all I'm noticing is that it makes my smoothie taste fucking rank. Like half a litre of chewed up fish oil capsules.
Beatrice Crammerfan - Sun, 04 Feb 2018 09:29:36 EST 9jj6M3hX No.130761 Reply
Presumably the effects are as strong now as they're likely to get. I don't feel far from baseline. Relatively sharp and awake but not much more so than if I was just having a good day, which I could be.
May have shit out a lot of it though, all the liquid came out of me not too long ago. Doing it as an extract or perhaps a shot with less liquids might be beneficial. I'll try just swallowing 20g tomorrow and hope it doesn't make me ill.
Beatrice Crammerfan - Sun, 04 Feb 2018 15:35:33 EST 9jj6M3hX No.130767 Reply
End of the day, I think it probably did have a slight, positive effect. Very clear headed, focused, a clean sensation. Not as effective as a personalised nootropic stack but still good.
Rebecca Ciblinggold - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 04:09:36 EST 9jj6M3hX No.130768 Reply
Swallowing 20g of dry green tea is really difficult.
Rebecca Ciblinggold - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:41:44 EST 9jj6M3hX No.130769 Reply
Now I feel ill. That was dumb.
Rebecca Ciblinggold - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 07:48:03 EST 9jj6M3hX No.130770 Reply
Okay so I'm pretty sure there is a positive benefit from the theanine but it's not worth eating that much dried green tea for and feeling like you're going to be sick for an hour. Extract is the way to go.
William Hunnershit - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 22:50:51 EST h7nZgvtP No.130793 Reply
What do you currently have in your stash of nootropics?
I have:
>Huperzine A
>N-Acetyl Tyrosine
>Omega 3s
>B Complex
As vitamin/amino acid support.
Hugh Cabberstig - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:25:11 EST 1TL+2+Ti No.130806 Reply

This probably isn't applicable to most people but I drink tea almost exclusively to treat my complicated migraines/neurological issues. Usually matcha and unsweetened green teas/oolongs.

I'm assuming it has something to do with easing cerebral vasoconstriction.

I think it only works with tea though. Every time I drink coffee (which lacks l-theanine) I just feel like I need to piss or take a shit 30 minutes later.
Priscilla Grimshaw - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 11:12:32 EST gC8kpxZZ No.130807 Reply
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>neurological issues
What type if you don't mind my asking?
I have a chick friend who's super against using drugs. She has terrible migraines alot. Might show her your post.
Isabella Pickfuck - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 23:45:57 EST 1TL+2+Ti No.130809 Reply
Chronic Headaches and Migraines along scattered demyelination, visual phenomena, abnormal brain activity, etc.

Hard to really narrow it down.

But my regular tea drinking has 100% helped with the headaches, migraines, and visual issues.

In all honestly its better than taking pills that damage my kidneys over time.
Samuel Gumblenidging - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:43:53 EST h7nZgvtP No.130810 Reply
Stacking today!

Lowered my doses of phenylpiracetam, my old ones were for boosting strength and endurance. Also sipping on a brew before I head out to class, I supplement the following:
>Omega 3s
>L-Tyrosine (x1/2)
>N-Acetyl Tyrosine (x1/2)
>Alpha-GPC (x1/2)
>Citicoline (x1/2)
>Vitamin C

A lovely stack when done correctly - normally I have the foresight to dose the memantine and ondansetron (for memantine nausea) the night prior, but today I am experimenting with concurrent dosage.

Tested Huperzine A earlier this week and finally had some success with it/Alpha-GPC. Will post about that in a bit.
Jenny Nicklewater - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:21:55 EST a7CqaMAv No.130812 Reply
Forgot - escitalopram I'm on for depression is a sigma-1 receptor agonist, so it counts too.

A booster of phenylpiracetam taken not too long ago. I find it most effective and long-lasting when the dose is broken up into two parts.

Huperzine A worked about as well as any racetam when I took it two days in a row, supplementing alpha-GPC for choline. Excited to start working out a cycle that might work week to week. Currently I take phenylpiracetam, the only racetam I currently have in stock to work with, about once every week or two. Thinking of upping it to 2-3x per week.

Does anyone find that using racetams or other nootropics seem to continue to boost cognition past the point at which their activity should end?
YakuiWiggly !9ewYjBc0iU - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 21:15:41 EST PHla0GsA No.130815 Reply
With what you know, it might be helpful to the folks here if you could sketch up an "intro" to nootropics. There are so many molecules, and many from classes that aren't as easily distinguishable as the boards we have here on 420chan. How do you, as a regular user, discern between a legitimate nootropic and regular old chemicals?
Cornelius Sannerchidging - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 19:13:38 EST h7nZgvtP No.130818 Reply
I'm still a learner! My readings have barely scratched the surface of what I intend to learn about nootropics.

A legitimate nootropic - to me - will enhance or alter cognition, memory, focus, wakefulness, or behaviours. It has to do this in a testable and consistent manner. Placebo is certainly possible, especially with the vitamins and supplements, but I try to do some preliminary research to assess whether there may be a scientific benefit or basis underlying a substance.

Choline is a must. Racetams or no. Nobody, and I mean nobody gets 400mg of that stuff per day out of their normal diet. Not unless they're an egg farmer or some shit and can handle diarrhea every day hahah.

I'm working on guides and pointers on the side, typing them up in Micosoft OneNote, annotating them with links to sources, videos, audio clips, and images. I want to make sure that if I release information that might influence someone to possibly tax their body in some way by consuming something, that my information is as correct, healthful, informed, and accurate as I can.

I take a great number of substances daily. This leads to complex interactions between all of them, which could inform my benefit from certain substances over others. To eliminate this possibility or at minimum minimize its impact upon my results it takes a great amount of time and tests.

I swear though, I will be composing and uploading to the internet some form of what you describe. Mark my words, semi-anonymous internet user! I wish to make my own piece of shit website from scratch in HTML, but may end up uploading to an established site so that my works and contribution will have greater longevity past my expiration.

Thank-you for what you've said. I suffer depression and sometimes wonder what the point of it all is. There are people like you out there who actually want things like this or could benefit. It is for you I keep working.

Isabella Cangerhall - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:11:56 EST IoFDUorc No.130819 Reply
my brain is fucking mush tbh
Cornelius Sannerchidging - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:23:16 EST h7nZgvtP No.130820 Reply
I mean to say, in short, I feel I am as of yet unqualified to do so and any claims I make would be as good as any unsupported opinions.

I would like to draw the distinction between a drug and nutrient. This very endeavour may highlight my lack of knowledge. A drug will alter chemical messaging DIRECTLY within your body without having to physically contribute to or be used by a functioning part of that original existing system.
A nutrient will supply your system with what it needs for the operation or maintenance of that system, and is incorporated within it. Drugs act as influencers exogenous to the system, as I see it.
Cornelius Sannerchidging - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 21:45:52 EST h7nZgvtP No.130821 Reply
I simply need enough time, cannabis, and amphetamines to complete the work! They get me typing and socializing no matter the weather in my old thinker upstairs.
Shaman MD - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:52:26 EST s1K3LKuv No.130827 Reply
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There are pure L-theanine capsules available to buy, I have some 200mg ones in my closet right now, I don't know now what you're trying to do. Any effects of the l-theanine would be mostly cancelled by the caffeine content in the green tea. I've taken these pills, I've never taken more than 1200mg but it's hard to describe what it does exactly. I can tell you L-theanine is definitely an anxiolytic, and a pretty good one (if you have anxiety you should try it), there's a little bit of a pleasant rush that only lasts for a few minutes (with a warm feeling in your chest and that fuzziness in the stomach), there's some mild sedation in the later phase and it all lasts about 2 to 4 hours depending on the dosage. It also enhances sleep and its effects come on rather quickly, you don't have to wait on it. I bet it can enhance a lot of substance from gabaergics to weed or stims. Its main disadvantage is quick tolerance buildup, you can only use once or twice, then you have to wait a few days before it delivers the same effects again. There might be some advantages to using it daily though, I haven't tried it. Mainly, it's calming and relaxing (not muscle relaxing however) and possibly has some analgesic effect too. That's all I have to say about it.

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Isabella Blammlewot - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 11:12:08 EST 9jj6M3hX No.130829 Reply
>Extract is the way to go.
I bought some a few days later. 200mg a day.
Rebecca Billingham - Thu, 22 Feb 2018 00:15:37 EST Pf4z4Zmb No.130836 Reply
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Is this you? I've been eating it for a minute and it's a very light effect, but it certainly is a stimulant. I like it more than amphetamines, as I like phenibut more than benzodiazepines.

It's a very nice stim. As a US user I've been eating FLmodafinil, but other than the smaller dosages it's the same feeling as the modalert blister packs.

This also brings up the question, what is a nootropic? If I can notice it is it a nootropic? This and phenibut are the only ones I've tried that give me a noticeable difference in sobriety.
Samuel Chongernet - Thu, 22 Feb 2018 06:02:38 EST 9jj6M3hX No.130837 Reply
>Nootropics, also known as smart drugs and cognitive enhancers, are drugs, supplements, and other substances that improve cognitive function, particularly executive functions, memory, creativity, or motivation, in healthy individuals.
Caffeine and nicotine are nootropics, they make you more alert. You could probably use crack as a nootropic if you microdosed just enough to give you some energy without losing your fucking mind. You can get off your face on phenibut too but that's not the usual intention.
Nootropics are just chemicals at a dose that make your brane work more gooder.
There's not much discussion of nootropics that you can't physically feel the effects of on here, but you can absolutely realise that you're retaining more and/or thinking more quickly and clearly after starting a regular regime of racetams and choline. You can't get high off that sort of nootropic, which is good as it makes it easy to resist the urge to abuse them. If you take too much, they just make you shit yourself.
SpeedDreamin' - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:06:56 EST h7nZgvtP No.130842 Reply
This. Most nootropic compounds won't cause compulsive urges to redose, but some will.

Amphetamines are fantabulous nootropic compounds when used correctly, like the quoted user stated about crack cocaine (or cocaine freebase).

Phenibut is just something else. Urges to redose are powerful, WHAT IS THIS CHEMICAL?
SpeedDreamin' - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:52:28 EST h7nZgvtP No.130843 Reply
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Cocaine consumption, like amphetamine consumption, can lead to deep thought. This is a nootropic benefit you did not mention.

Also, nicotinic acetylcholine receptors may have cognition-boosting qualities, if not nicotine's (downstream, I think) dopaminergic activity. Something similar might be said for caffeine, as it affects D2 dopamine receptors. Whole tobacco may act as a neuroprotectant and prevent Parkinson's disease in recreational stimulant users:
That's a link for a different article on the neuroprotective qualities of tobacco and decaffeinated caffeine 'cause I can't find the article I referenced before the colon. You'll have to take my word, and this single related article instead.

Nicotine may further offer neuroprotection in the right doses:
As may methamphetamine, in some sense:

Again I ask of you,
Esther Bruddlewell - Sat, 24 Feb 2018 04:16:59 EST 9jj6M3hX No.130844 Reply
I mentioned crack, I thought it was obvious I was implying most stimulants can be used as nootropics if used in small enough doses.
Henry Murdhood - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 15:29:08 EST K75i6uvt No.130895 Reply
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is there any better or more proven combo than a smoke and a cup of coffee? or something that compares to it? i feel compelled to say "fuck these circlejerk stacks" and chalk it all up to some big ass marketing thing.

i tried l-theanine and caffeine as a newbie starter. theres no effect from it great enough for me to distinguish. and then i go and read about some circlejerkor having a blast thru his own head as he accesses memories and i wonder, what the fuck am i missing out on? can i seriously buy any vaguely nootropic powder and dose that shit out and i'll finally see enlightenment?
Lillian Bunningsut - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 08:35:57 EST IoFDUorc No.130898 Reply
Theanine just helps lessen the side effects of caffeine- jitters, heart racing. It's not necessarily a "nootropic" thing but theanine is a great medicine for a number of ailments, side effects, withdrawals, etc.
Edwin Semmerlock - Sat, 17 Mar 2018 04:12:31 EST K8B5jg2U No.130990 Reply

Not really a nootropic but a 200mg of phenylethylamine downed after you let a cup of strong coffee sit in your stomach for a bit while chain smoking gave me a very short (15-20 minute with the peak at about 10 minutes) MDA-like high. I've heard its pretty intense if you mix it with an actual MAOI but I'd rather just stick to MDMA.
Ebenezer Bruddlenut - Wed, 21 Mar 2018 12:22:08 EST h7nZgvtP No.131024 Reply
I made an observation about phenibut in another thread. Seems to be very limited in its uses as a noot.
John Drurrystot - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 03:11:18 EST Ku/yqKiJ No.131142 Reply
I found it improved my multitasking and speed when working in a kitchen. That was in combination with caffeine and obviously at higher doses you're too retarded to work properly.
Augustus Gunderson - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 21:44:29 EST zOCBJFve No.131214 Reply
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I'm interested in L-Theanine.

Google says you might have 25-60mg of L-Theanine in a standard black tea bag serving. So I'm thinking of brewing multiple bags at once in a small amount of liquid then downing it at once. I already tried 3, I think I felt something but can't be sure. I'll try 5 next.
Augustus Gunderson - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 06:40:42 EST zOCBJFve No.131219 Reply

Ok, I felt pretty good when I tried 3, but I tried 5 today and I felt pretty weird, some anxiety and a headache.

(I am the worst experimenter ever though because I'm withdrawing from some stuff and getting panic attacks every day)
Obveous McTrollsteian - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 11:45:24 EST lPa9+pp0 No.131220 Reply
You're doing it all wrong mate, but I'll credit you with having the right idea. Here's the thing though, brewing the black tea destroys most of the L-Theanine, so the best way to absorb it properly is to cut open the tea bags and snort the contents. You'll be flying on only 2 bags if you do it this way.
Henry Cuffingdine - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 13:33:32 EST fAUYnTnp No.131231 Reply
Come on guy.

Just cold brew it in the cup overnight or something. Make a few like this. Then try it or you know, just go buy some from the vitamin store.....
Augustus Crickletetch - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:44:54 EST NZNlMEyh No.131233 Reply
Just buy L-theanine powder.
Longer brewing time means more theanine btw.
David Pimmlepog - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 23:58:13 EST zOCBJFve No.131242 Reply

but I'm poor and dont want to blow $20 on a box of pills that might do nothing
Ernest Pickfoot - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:48:07 EST Y2CzJ5Gj No.131243 Reply
mate this is /other/. take your legitimate advice somewhere else
Walter Hittingdadge - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:39:51 EST ljSoEtJQ No.131246 Reply
These people using high amounts of tea as a source of theanine are killing me. You're getting way more caffeine than theanine that way. The theanine should help smooth out the caffeine, but yes - you'll mostly just feel the caffeine. It's like these people need nootropics, but will they actually get to the point where they can figure out how to use such drugs? We'll find out!
Graham Cannerdat - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 01:21:34 EST 9jj6M3hX No.131248 Reply
Fuck you I quite liked the smooth buzz I got from eating 20g of dried green tea. Once I got over the nausea.
Fucking Grimdale - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 02:16:46 EST TgYrC4Fg No.131249 Reply
jesus fucking christ that had to be great on your heart
Graham Cannerdat - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 09:26:17 EST 9jj6M3hX No.131252 Reply
It wasn't all that different to a couple of cups of coffee. Thinking about it, it's probably not something you can digest properly, especially if it hasn't been boiled.
Walter Hittingdadge - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 09:27:20 EST ljSoEtJQ No.131253 Reply

You probably consumed up to 400 mg of caffeine, perhaps more. The theanine in green tea, plus other compounds in the plant like ECGC, probably helped smooth that experience out. But make no mistake about it - you mainly had a caffeine high.

Decaf green tea could possibly be a good route for experiencing theanine in isolation, though I'm not 100% sure if the caffeine extraction process alters the level of theanine, too.
Graham Cannerdat - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:08:36 EST 9jj6M3hX No.131254 Reply
I was pretty close to baseline. Upper and downers mixed doesn't put you at baseline it puts you somewhere weird. I think I probably just couldn't digest the cellulose and body temperature wasn't hot enough to steep it internally.
Walter Hittingdadge - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 13:03:58 EST ljSoEtJQ No.131255 Reply
So did you get a smooth buzz or not? I'm confused now.
Alice Chattingchit - Sat, 28 Apr 2018 11:11:22 EST 9jj6M3hX No.131256 Reply
>It wasn't all that different to a couple of cups of coffee.
Archie Docklebit - Sun, 29 Apr 2018 15:21:47 EST i4QGHRpp No.131257 Reply
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I'm prescribed atomoxetine (Strattera) at a dosage of 60 mg. Honestly I don't think about the concept of cognitive enhancement or "nootropics" very much however I do think this drug is an underrated and underused treatment for ADHD (That's what I'm prescribed it for). It lets me focus without making me feel jittery and moody like stimulants would. There are downsides in the form that it's more subtle if anything but I do find that it helps my focus, memory, and overall cognitive performance a lot.
William Shittingfield - Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:21:40 EST RPsyZ6if No.131260 Reply
Noopept is going to start a huge sanitary scandal eventually, it makes you fucking retarded if you take it for too long and/or potentialise it too much.
Also oxiracetam made me feel like a fucking psychopath with no empathy or love within myself, I can't imagine how fucking disastrous the spread of such products are within hierarchies (you can bet trump is under nootropics, most likely noopept too, and most Schooln diplomats too).
Phineas Dadgeway - Tue, 01 May 2018 21:54:49 EST T8Wpo8rm No.131263 Reply
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Dude I thought the same shit the other day. Can you imagine?
I just hit a nice chemical mood swing.
>presses button
Cornelius Gedgekire - Wed, 02 May 2018 02:25:58 EST zOCBJFve No.131265 Reply
Just got my L-Theanine in the mail, about to pop one of these bad boys
Caroline Bobblefore - Thu, 03 May 2018 04:04:58 EST zOCBJFve No.131268 Reply
I tried 200mg L-Theanine, I don't think it did shit
Isabella Farrystock - Thu, 03 May 2018 07:56:30 EST lAgug5aG No.131272 Reply
well, you probably are fucked up in the first place as I never met anyone who had similar experiences with those nootropics
but hey, it's nothing new right? people with heart problems doing coke and meth, then talking about how bad stims are
Thomas Brubblewater - Thu, 03 May 2018 10:36:13 EST 9jj6M3hX No.131273 Reply
stupid mortals complaining about how things that might kill them are bad.
Jenny Shittingstock - Thu, 03 May 2018 13:28:59 EST N52rUfNi No.131274 Reply
Per hosting a website, Github allows free static webhosting with any account. If you do intend to post what you have on the net, this route might be the best for longevity and price.

Matilda Gongerbanks - Thu, 03 May 2018 15:07:34 EST Bhcn8fBN No.131275 Reply
Anybody has any experience with fladrafinil (CRL-40,941)?
Ian Pockman - Fri, 04 May 2018 02:46:00 EST zOCBJFve No.131277 Reply

I've got PAWS from alcohol and lyrica withdrawal, L-Theanine is one of the things reccomended to me for its supposed upregulation of GABA.

I tried 400mg yesterday, the day after 200mg, I think it helped. I definitely felt calmer but I can't be sure if it was placebo or not.
Priscilla Webblenure - Fri, 04 May 2018 05:38:54 EST m+TWfjtw No.131278 Reply
How stupid are you? Are you one of guys talking about how dangerous guns are because people with mwntal problems kill others?
Isabella Chisslechore - Fri, 04 May 2018 14:45:30 EST 9jj6M3hX No.131280 Reply
No, but it's pretty funny that's where your mind went.
Molly Goodville - Sat, 05 May 2018 08:03:51 EST abQD2WG9 No.131283 Reply
seems like it'd be useful to have a board for noots
Matilda Cluffingtine - Sun, 13 May 2018 03:32:14 EST zOCBJFve No.131297 Reply
More on L-Theanine. The psychonaut article does seem to be on the money, 200mg will be mildly stimulating while 400mg will be mildly sedating. I still want to know what it is like taking a lower dose daily for it to upregulate GABA. I will look into this later once I have finished my semester, and by later I mean possibly never.
John Seshridge - Mon, 14 May 2018 10:41:03 EST 9jj6M3hX No.131301 Reply
Oh yeah because this board is just totally overrun with specifically nootropic threads and it's stopping all the other traffic.
Hedda Blummleford - Sat, 19 May 2018 12:07:35 EST s2JyYIcW No.131309 Reply
I've tried phen at least five times. Two different vendors, both very well reputed. I'm kind of introverted/reserved and not very social in general. Not really awkward or unable to get social cues but just kind of a loner. Did it the proper way, 1-2g about 5 hours before going out, at least 3-4 hours after last meal, together with caffeine, then no food for at least 2h after. Some of the times I took a smaller dose few hundred mg right before going out. Made absolutely no difference, only felt slightly dizzy when I took like 1800mg + 400mg. Kind of sucks because I hear people everywhere ranting about how you become super social and relaxed but I'm just the same old boring me and got no increased urge to socialize and when I did it didn't feel any different. Any tips?
Emma Fottinglet - Sat, 26 May 2018 11:46:18 EST q0cDoSUK No.131343 Reply
Why does atomoxetine make my dick shrink? It also gives me ED, which isnt so bad because it prevents me from fapping 3 times a day like I used to, but the shrinking is weird, I'm worried if it may be hurtful. I don't want to stop taking it because it makes wonders for my focus, stuying is so much easy now that I'm even starting to enjoy it and look forward to it.
Also, arent atomoxetine and modafinil /stim/?
Emma Fottinglet - Sat, 26 May 2018 11:50:16 EST q0cDoSUK No.131344 Reply
is god-tier but it seems that it doesnt work for too much people
Sophie Daddlechuck - Sat, 26 May 2018 16:19:35 EST XbS4xoed No.131346 Reply
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Noopept is an antidote for dissociatives, practically speaking.

It's also one of the only nootropics I've tried (of which there are many) that had a noticeable effect on my cognition/perception.

Piracetam, and sporadic use of other racetams for specific functions, over the long term can have a sigificant effect on verbal fluency. A good choline source, like centrophenoxine, helps.

Both of these substances will increase trans-lateral and interhemispheral communication, resulting in a net increase in reflex/reaction time, accuracy/precision, information recall, creativity, and, in my opinion, these substances provide a mild ego boost when used consistently.

I like them. They make me very subtly manic, so my confidence is booated, and I feel on point with most everything I do. I'm keen on learning and quick to pick up new talents.

My affect is generally flat, so I don't notice much of an effect on my emotion, although I do feel slightly more clinical than I already am. The, again mild, boost to energy and motivation do give me the general appearance of more charisms and smile though.

I'd like to try peptides, like NASA or Epitalon, but they're expensive.

Also plan on investing in a cycle of Coluracetam, PRL-8-53, and IDRA-21, sometime soon. I'll hopefully start a new job at a new school soon, so something colorful and bright and to help remember names and to be cheery and fun.. I think it'll work with my regular Noopept + Piracetam and Centrophenoxine.
Nell Bubberhutch - Mon, 28 May 2018 17:30:21 EST FBK+VtEx No.131364 Reply
Modafinil yes, atomoxetine not really. Atomoxetine is primarily a peripheral, not central, stimulant. Peripheral nervous system stimulants are useful in treatment of ADHD because norepinephrine release enhances sustained alertness (obviously, you'd want to be alert in a flight-or-fright situation). This is why Adderall is pushed more often than Dexedrine, because the levo isomer impacts norepinephrine more than dopamine. It's also responsible for heart rate increase and nervous sweating and anxiety responses, and yes, erectile issues, because, again, norepinephrine is a mediator of flight-or-fright responses in conjunction with epinephrine (adrenaline). You don't want to be popping a stiffy while you're running from the lion.
Nell Pemmerstetch - Tue, 29 May 2018 17:06:14 EST gp1BWJyy No.131368 Reply
>You don't want to be popping a stiffy while you're running from the lion.
Henry Pammersadge - Wed, 30 May 2018 16:14:03 EST eXEuLGR4 No.131369 Reply
I was under the impression that Adderall was pushed over dextro or racemic formulas was because a pharma company that held a patent for Obetrol (a dieting pill with and mixed amphetamine salts) wanted to get into the ADHD medication business and not because the mixed salt formula was proven to be more effective than dextro or racemic for treatment of ADHD symptoms
Molly Gedgefed - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 03:45:46 EST PZlZuUXF No.131410 Reply
Been taking 20mg noopept a day for almost a week and I'm convinced that it has an effect after it has worn off. Or maybe it's residual.
When i take it and listen to an audiobook, i absorb the book much better. My minds eye can conceive the concepts better and I'm more in tune.
I'm gonna be involved in a tournament tomorrow that requires precise motor skills and concentration. I've won the last two So I'm interested to see how i do this time with the aid of noopept.
Molly Gedgefed - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 10:53:09 EST PZlZuUXF No.131413 Reply
Also i want to ask if there is anybody here who has taken nootropics or specifically noopept long term, 6+ months, and if they've noticed any side effects. There really isn't much info online.
Hannah Fevingkat - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:43:40 EST PZlZuUXF No.131420 Reply
After continuing too take noopept, i have noticed a potentiating effect when combined with kratom. But only of the side effects.
The pain and relaxation remains the same or possibly even lessens, and it is a lot easier to get blurry vision aka the wobbles. What should take a high dose to get the wobbles can be done with a low to moderate dose. Could have a lot to do with this specific strain though.
Samuel Brellyton - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:11:06 EST bTthMcIw No.131423 Reply
I just started noopept recently as well. Whats your ROA?
Nicholas Buddlelock - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 02:36:53 EST PZlZuUXF No.131424 Reply
If I'm trying to be productive or do something relaxed like reading I'll go oral but if i want intense concentration for video games I'll do sublingual. I find sublingual can be a bit intense sometimes. I started off with 10mg but I've found that 5mg has a very similar effect so that's how much I've been taking lately.
Alice Herrydidge - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 03:45:41 EST PZlZuUXF No.131436 Reply
Don't take noopept when you're sleep deprived. It gave me anxiety.
Martin Bongertog - Sun, 01 Jul 2018 00:01:21 EST 4lmzK0cd No.131491 Reply
Just started getting into this crap recently. Right now I'm taking ashwagandha root (because Walmart had it :^)) and Magnesium (because I had it in the house from a while ago). Getting L-Theanine with caffeine and n-acetylcysteine in the mail tomorrow. I'm also taking venlafaxine (effexor) fwiw.
Martin Bongertog - Sun, 01 Jul 2018 00:01:53 EST 4lmzK0cd No.131492 Reply
Just started getting into this crap recently. Right now I'm taking ashwagandha root (because Walmart had it :^)) and Magnesium (because I had it in the house from a while ago). Getting L-Theanine with caffeine and n-acetylcysteine in the mail tomorrow. I'm also taking venlafaxine (effexor) fwiw.

Any recommendations for other shit to take?
Martin Bongertog - Sun, 01 Jul 2018 00:03:45 EST 4lmzK0cd No.131493 Reply
Wew it gave me an error about flooding the board of some shit on the first post and told me to copy my message and repost it or some shit. Sorry about that boys.
Eugene Benderlock - Sun, 15 Jul 2018 21:37:00 EST NOGDG9CA No.131547 Reply
What kind of magnesium are you taking?

As far as i know, magnesium oxide, a form of magnesium commonly sold in stores, has low bioavailability compared to other forms available such as magnesium glycinate.

I have a stack similar to yours, except I also take CDP-Choline. Choline supplements and racetams are a good combo.
Rebecca Huttingtore - Mon, 23 Jul 2018 19:12:11 EST NOGDG9CA No.131578 Reply
My stash currently includes:
>L-Theanine + Caffeine
>Omega 3 Fish Oil

I also take a multivitamin with meals.
Augustus Fillyspear - Wed, 25 Jul 2018 21:34:18 EST 9LCuMhFS No.131587 Reply
I used to take piracetam, choline, n-acteyl-cysteine, magnesium, and other stuff that I don't remember.

I didn't notice any effect.
Betsy Chibblebury - Wed, 01 Aug 2018 22:00:52 EST NOGDG9CA No.131636 Reply
Overall, it helps me treat my bipolar disorder symptoms.
Rebecca Furringway - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 10:12:37 EST aE2YjQh3 No.132443 Reply
I got this effect as well, however I needed to take at least 2.5g of PEA for it to do anything. It was like MDMA and yet not MDMA.
Nicholas Suvingstone - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 12:49:24 EST G37tt8It No.132446 Reply
I've noticed that effect with oxiracetam. I used to have the kind of memory that made school a joke, but a long period of DPH abuse and a weeklong fever in the hospital set me back a ways. For a few days after taking oxiracetam, I'll feel how I used to feel and be able to remember things extremely easily. That said, I think a huge part of that is my heavy reliance on mnemonic devices - once the drug wears off, the work I put in to remember information is still there.
How exactly did the Huperzine A feel? Was it very stimulating or was it more like clear-headedness you get from most racetams?

Strangely enough, I agree. Oxiracetam makes you slightly emotionally numb and it's REALLY easy to obsess over things in a harmful way on it.
Also, aniracetam gives me hella road rage. Not when I'm on it: while the drug is taking effect I feel completely emotionally numb, but in a good way. As soon as it wears off I am a complete asshole because of the emotional whiplash. Thankfully, I'm driving in Boston so absolutely nobody notices.
What's all this about noopept?
Cyril Criffingman - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 10:16:25 EST xNLfN0vB No.132770 Reply
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