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Sword and shield the lowest scoring mainline pokemon games

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- Sat, 16 Nov 2019 04:52:43 EST wLnqoALh No.229956
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This will certainly get game-freak to finally change it's ways right?
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Danky-Dank !/6dZfyt07o - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 06:19:09 EST 5iH6Xx2X No.229957 Reply
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>>229956
I bloody hope so. Only time will tell.
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Firebreather Clara - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:27:50 EST 0LfZR5TA No.229958 Reply
No, user scores and audience reception don't mean anything anymore, they bought their metacritic score, they bought a 9.3 from ign. If the customer opinion doesn't match that they can just say it's because upset trolls are review bombing it which is an illegitimate and disrespectful practice, how dare they when morale at game freak is already so low...
They've already bought and paid for a consensus opinion there's no room for something as small as how customers feel about their purchase to get in the way of that.
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Factory Head David - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:19:51 EST AKFAIIaO No.229959 Reply
>whiny manbabies reviewbombing

After all, it was just as successful with Captain Marvel!
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Scientist Phoebe - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 04:17:26 EST qJYLFbUA No.229960 Reply
It's not the amazing console pokemon I wanted, but it's certainly better than Sun and Moon.
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Worker Jarvis - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 20:20:32 EST M1XpjPjO No.229961 Reply
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After starting a game yesterday I've found that it's an inoffensive offering and I like the qol stuff that you get off the start.
Instead of them slowly including new things it's already there and you can now fish without getting the old rod from some old fart fisherman.
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Poké Kid Ernest - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 12:19:38 EST ymGlrNwc No.229962 Reply
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>>229956
How many of those reviews are 35-year-old bearded men unreasonably mad about some inconsequential bullshit?
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Jogger Lillian - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 12:31:06 EST A68nNtdA No.229963 Reply
>>229962

Pokemon is the WWE of videogames and long time fans are having a hard time coming to terms with that. Luckily the mod scene is stepping up and adding things to the game that fans were missing. The last game I bought was heartgold. That was ten years ago and it still keeps me occupied.
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Arena Tycoon Archie - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 02:11:49 EST AKFAIIaO No.229964 Reply
>>229963
OK Poke-boomer

>WWE of videogames

I don't even want to imagine the amount of mental degeneration you'd need to make this shittake
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Tuber Esther - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 03:47:31 EST 0LfZR5TA No.229965 Reply
>>229962
>it's for kids so who cares if it's bad
The inconsequential bullshit is that it's a bad video game, the series is still charming, there's heart and all that, it's enjoyable, but it has a fuckton of issues and it compares poorly to older games in the series, let's go Pikachu and eevee, and other games from other series. They went in with raised expectations and delivered a product that would have disappointed even without them.

It runs badly, it looks bad, it's animated badly, most of the attack animations are the Pokémon’s model being picked up and rotated like master hand is playing with the action figure, the sound design is flat and lifeless, the soundtrack is bland and repetitive and the few good songs get used so often they lose all impact, it has weird uncanny valley cutscenes where these badly animated models gesture at each other and flap their lips but with no voice acting or sound effects whatsoever. More subjective but the story is bland and kind of disrespectful to its audience, they stick you with unlikable characters who refuse to go away, it's almost all just people explaining things to you as a detached observer, there's a plotline about the region and the legendary Pokemon in it and this is revealed to you by every couple gyms another character will show up and just tell you about this and then leave to go solve the mysteries on their own while you do your stuff. It's very clearly setting up a sequel like BW2 to follow through on all the threads it just leaves hanging.

From a game mechanic perspective dynamaxing is not fun and it just drags out the battles and doubles down on the sound design and animation issues as what are supposed to be these big dynamic fights are boring slow and lifeless, the special gigantomax forms are locked behind post-game raids so even if you have one of the Pokemon who do it you're not allowed to use them, the gym leaders can but your Pokemon aren't special enough,and you don't get the special enough ones until you're past 90% of the opportunities to use them and the end of any casual player's playthrough.

This is glossing over a thousand inconsequential little things that together add up to just make the game feel rushed, unfinished and low quality, LGPE had a lot more polish in a lot of areas.

I spent the last month playing Digimon cyber sleuth, and if I was a kid and these were my first exposure to both these series I would have ended up a lifelong Digimon fan who doesn't really care about Pokemon.
The fact that there are a lot of fanboys, and that it's a series for children, really doesn't excuse it just being a bad product.
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Kindler Nell - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 03:54:50 EST kbFo29Yw No.229966 Reply
>>229964

Pokemon is the highest grossing franchise in the history of the world, yet they refuse to actually put any of those massive profits back into the games, because pokemon just prints money no matter what they do. It's got so much monentum that they can just float for a few years without even doing anything. WWE has all of these symptoms.

>poke boomer

I'm 23 you fucking chode.
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Jogger Eugene - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 23:22:08 EST d9ZfsReK No.229967 Reply
>>229956
Fastest selling, fun, good critic reviews.

transs mad at dex and move cut.
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Fisherman Sophie - Sun, 02 Feb 2020 03:05:24 EST uEcIgkQS No.230005 Reply
>>229966
Exactly. It's not perfect exactly _because_ they don't put the time, money, effort into giving the core fans what they want.
Well, take a little bit from everything right now, just don't expect perfection for a while.
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Gentleman Phoebe - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 04:20:38 EST lqjNjaqh No.230006 Reply
>16 million copies sold later...
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Guitarist Jarvis - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 01:46:24 EST kbFo29Yw No.230007 Reply
>>230006
Exactly. They can do whatever they want and it'll still print money.
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Expert Thomas - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 11:04:27 EST lqjNjaqh No.230008 Reply
>>230007
If it was as bad as all the melts said it wouldn't have sold nearly that well
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Cowgirl Ian - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 13:23:16 EST 0LfZR5TA No.230009 Reply
>>230008
not really, nobody bitching expected it to actually suffer in sales, that was kind of the point
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Officer Cedric - Mon, 09 Mar 2020 22:30:20 EST 3jxHmpCR No.230013 Reply
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Probably not. I gave up on GF and haven't played a Pokemon game since ORAS because I found myself only playing for the post-game online battles anyway.
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Worker Eliza - Thu, 16 Apr 2020 07:30:12 EST MpwgNGIF No.230018 Reply
Sword and Shield are the worst games yet but they made a shitload of money so probably not.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 07 May 2020 14:22:46 EST JEMeDKiQ No.230023 Reply
>>230018
Yeah they have actually. As of March 31st 2020, Pokémon Sword & Shield has sold 17.37 million copies, which means they've already outsold all of the Pokemon 3DS games. Here's how it ranks now:

>Red/Blue: 31.38 million
>Gold/Silver: 23.1 million
>Diamond/Pearl: 17.67 million
>Sword/Shield: 17.37 million

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 07-05-2020 14:23:10
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Champion Lydia - Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:59:13 EST J5mEGZaS No.230036 Reply
Serious question: Do you guys think Ohmori can turn it around if given the chance or do you think the game *needs* a new director?
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Mysticalman Nicholas - Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:16:10 EST EWluio/v No.230037 Reply
>>230036
I don't think even a new director is able to save this franchise. Untill sales really start plummeting I don't see gamefreak changing anything about these games unless a literal miracle happens, there's just too much money to be made.
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Leader Frederick - Fri, 07 Aug 2020 07:19:31 EST X9hJj/T3 No.230041 Reply
>>229956

>This will certainly get game-freak to finally change it's ways right?

Hard hell no. Game Freak basically makes whatever game they want to make regardless of what core fans want. Everything went downhill ever since Masuda patronized the younger demographic when someone asked him about Battle Frontier.
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Skier Eugene - Thu, 08 Oct 2020 14:43:18 EST 3ifyNt/P No.230062 Reply
Got Shield for reasons.

Review of the Britishness: There's a few bits where they nailed Britain like early on some people are talking in the middle of a wide path but it won't let you go around them even though you can. The trains stopping for the dumbest most easily avoidable reason is also very british. Also galar forme wingull was absent because that'd be eating pidgeys and stealing your food from your hands. The fossil thing is quite a clever reference as well. Some bits don't really click but whatever. Not sure why there's an ice area or desert but they have to put that in pokemon so I'll let it slide. The coal mine backing on to Devon and not the black country was weird though.

The reduced dex sort of sucks but they're patching it in. Buying DLC to catch everything would suck if you couldn't just do what you did on other gens and import stuff you caught on Platinum. Pokemon designs will never be as good because the good ideas are done.

Outside the raids I don't like dynamaxing. It's a mediocre gimmick. Megas redefined monsters and brought them into play again, but dynamaxing is less creative and less fun. There is some finesse to it where certain moves dynamax badly or well but it's weak. That it enables raids is probably its saving grace and they'll need something like it in future gens if they want team co op again.

The endgame league thing is conceptually cool and the rank/tier system is better than the old streak one, however they cut it down to 2 formats. Those are the best formats, triples was broken and easy to cheese for free BP though with a rain team and rain is at least as strong as ever right now. I'm going to give that a go and see if I can get to master ball league, maybe play some on line doubles.

The removal of moves sucks. I mean bubble was redundant but they did remove moves that weren't just filler before you level. Pursuit has gone which is lame, maybe they hated the strategy and thought it was too coin toss-y but losing viable options always feels lame. However they have added lots of new moves too. Though gating a bunch behind the DLC sucks. At least the raids spunk the items you need to buy "water U Turn" and shit.

Reducing the grind of breeding and training EVs is fine by me, the mints are nice too. Less save scumming legendaries now. They have been trying to push people to competitive play by removing the grind but not the knowledge required and that's cool.

The raids work okay though sometimes it's hard to find people or get on a raid and some of the monsters are almost impossible with AI trainers. The AI trainers are a joke and half of them feel like troll options. The on line is laggy and slows the game down and needing a mobile app for GTS is pure fucking cancer. The wild area news is kind of okay but it's a whole week of mostly fighting the same monsters so it'd be better if it skewed encounter tables less, or changed more often.

The single player story is paced badly but I like the league idea and the way gym leaders make it clear they actually do go easy on you during your challenge. It actually almost feels congruent with the world it's in. Team Yell was a let down and the surprise twist was a damp squib. The exp share would be fine if it didn't spunk EVs everywhere. I don't miss the grind. Pokemon is not hard unless you tack on arbitrary rules anyway. It does break nuzlocke though. So between the Evs and that it'd be nice to have it as an option in the game settings to turn it off or on.

I know what I'd love to see in a pokemon game and I know it'll never happen.

What would you guys improve? Have I missed anything?
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Teacher Cornelius - Fri, 09 Oct 2020 04:02:51 EST Al4qGpKQ No.230063 Reply
>>230062
The Britishness is kinda half-assed in places

>Pokemon designs will never be as good because the good ideas are done.

OK boomer
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Rocket Admin Basil - Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:58:01 EST 3ifyNt/P No.230064 Reply
>>230063
Do you really think you can come up with an infinite pool of good ideas without changing the boundaries of what is considered acceptable?

That's not to say they will all be rubbish forever past a point just that over time quality will trend down overall. I mean the vanilite family is still the worst design ever despite 3 subsequent gens. But it's something they peaked at a while ago. People expecting 80+ amazing new monsters are asking for the moon on a stick at this point.

I suspect every region has been a bit half arsed to fit in the pokemon cliches and stuff. Some of it felt forced some of it was absent. Hammerlocke felt like you got Dover (or any large extensive fort castle) and Winsor castles to fuck, then removed the bits of Winsor that were town and filled them with it. No white cliffs, no black country, no moors (North East or South West).

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