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protests shut down breitbart writer Milo Yiannnopoulis by Archie Billinglock - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 08:43:48 EST ID:+njHaAbo No.386462 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/milo-yiannopoulos-uc-berkeley-event-cancelled
>Berkeley has cancelled a speech by rightwing internet troll Milo Yiannopoulos after thousands of students gathered in protest and a group of black-clad anti-fascist activists shot fireworks at the speech venue.
>“We won’t put up with the violent rhetoric of Milo, Trump or the fascistic alt-right,” said a Berkeley history student
>He said he identified with the “antifa” (anti-fascist) movement.
>“It’s absolutely acceptable to use violence. They are 100% certain to use it against us.”
> Many students, alumni and community members demanded that action be taken to stop Yiannopoulos from spreading his racist and transphobic views.
>university chancellor Nicholas Dirks defended Yiannopoulos’s right to speak on campus, though he described the Breitbart editor as “a troll and provocateur who uses odious behavior in parts to ‘entertain’, but also to deflect any serious engagement with ideas” whose “act [is] at odds with the values of this campus”.

>A protester was shot and seriously injured outside a Yiannopoulos speech at the University of Washington on 20 January, reportedly by a Trump supporter who was seeking Yiannopoulos’s autograph.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/shooting-milo-yiannopoulos-speech-seattle-charges
> two suspects had “presented themselves to us at the police station”. The prosecutors’ office recommended that police release them, he said.
>The release of the shooter has prompted consternation among some anti-Trump activists, who see a double standard in how leftwing protesters are treated by police. But the victim does not want to see charges filed.

yep, the left shut down a fascist speaking at a universtiy despite one of their own being shot week earlier, his shooter getting walking free. The struggle continues.
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Phyllis Goodman - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 21:54:26 EST ID:Ya8XWC/o No.388102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388100
I don't think you understand how breeding wars work
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James Simbledadge - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:44:20 EST ID:wCbmVqz0 No.388104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388102
Yeah I generally don't understand how something you just made up works.
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Esther Canningkerk - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 00:05:39 EST ID:Tt2trn3j No.388111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>388100
I'm a highly cultured and sensitive artist and aesthetician and that informs my political opinions :^)
Who's to say that the brainwashed are brainwashed? Maybe everything is a lie, man. Maybe it's all relative. Maybe the only constant forces in the universe are lulz, aesthetics and feels. What is good in the world is what makes me laugh, what looks pretty, and what makes me feel alive and connected to the universe. Stuff like beautiful sunsets, a pair of nice titties, laughing at retards on the internet, protecting the people you care about. Maybe that matters more than being realistic, than statistics used to back up gay world-improvement theories.
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Charlotte Brendlehedge - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 00:57:20 EST ID:QK8mfsjv No.388112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388111

nah
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Isabella Tillingwater - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 01:40:15 EST ID:0B9qh6RW No.388114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>388111
Attempting to appear strong and labeling the opposition effeminate is one of the oldest and most common tactics of reactionary propaganda.

You can find countless examples of Nazis and Neonazis talking about the importance of pushing such an appearance.

Look at any all-encompassing photo of a neonazi rally.
Then consider the individual and small-group images you're presented with, and you can extrapolate how the person who selected those images is trying to control your perspective.

It becomes pretty clear that the perspective you've seen through has been carefully designed.


Not My President Day -- The Resistance by John Wobberfuck - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:12:54 EST ID:VLZSAHSu No.388097 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are your thoughts on the national protests today? If you think they're ineffectual, why? Vice-versa.

The events show wide-spread opposition to Trump and his policies. The turnouts were much lower than J20 and the subsequent Women's March tho. Every day there's a protest somewhere, with the the number of participants and frequency unprecedented. The police response in multiple cities also seemed to be more heavy-handed and violent than previously.

The next big protest is set for April 15th, tax day.

Another initiative is to setup decentralized neighborhood councils to discuss problems and work towards solutions outside of government. If the city wont fill a pothole, the people can and will.

There are rapid response networks being created to respond to ICE raids and racist actions. ICE raids are still going on in sanctuary cities, wtf mayors and governors.
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John Wobberfuck - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:24:40 EST ID:VLZSAHSu No.388101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388098
That makes sense. What if mayors and governors took the extra step and ordered local government employees to block ICE & DHS raids. Reminiscent of governors trying to block DEA raids of legal medical marijuana dispensaries.
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Hamilton Sibberhudge - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:32:40 EST ID:Nla6yjir No.388107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388101
Because they don't have the power to do that. That's why.

And besides, what's the point of having borders and a path to citizenship if we're supposed to prevent ICE from doing it's job and just allow anyone and everyone into the country, with no control over the situation whatsoever? That's fucking stupid.
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Shitting Murdworth - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:39:06 EST ID:27xkdUXu No.388108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388097
How long will Liberals be LARPing? The rest of the terms?
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lumpen !rGOAfuB3jA - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:50:12 EST ID:g4ld2Uxs No.388109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As far as the anti-trump protest movement in general, I'm not overly impressed. Identity politics hasn't improved at all. General strikes seem to be a new fad among the SJW crowd for instance. Instead of forming a coalition, women's/immigrants/labor rights groups are planning general strikes in different months. Immigrants already had theirs, women strike on 3/8 I think, and some leftist groups are trying to organize one for Mayday. Way to make the strikes as ineffective as possible. Properly coordinated a unified strike might actually make an economic impact. But scattering the strikes is just a good way to get people fired.

On the other hand, it's nice to see militancy starting to make a comeback.

Honestly though Trump does so much stupid shit in such frequency I think a lot of these protestors are going to get tired sooner or later.
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Charlotte Brendlehedge - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 01:12:55 EST ID:QK8mfsjv No.388113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388109

Will they ever realize that they need to unite as slaves in opposition to a slave state or will they continue to be distracted by skin color and genitals and sexual preference? Find out tomorrow on American Horror Story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iAIM02kv0g


George W Bush by Hedda Hibblelitch - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 03:03:46 EST ID:mtoAMITB No.388053 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are your thoughts on George W Bush's presidency?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCm9788Tb5g
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Hedda Hacklebud - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 18:52:22 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.388096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Still far, far worse than Trump. I literally believe he and his father intentionally created the war on terror out of thin air to sell weapons to the military. Once the red scare was over they worked hard to get a brown scare going and boy were they successful. They wanted to create people who hated our guts and then make us live in fear of them so we would be willing to give them more power and more money for the military. Bush knew about 9/11 before it happened and did nothing intentionally to allow them to go into the middle east. They wanted to engineer a situation where we would be selling large amounts of weapons to brown people who would then kill each other. They knew they needed war to sell the weapons but they didn't want another Vietnam where millions of Americans died because they knew the opposition to the war would be too strong and it wouldn't last for too long. This long protracted war and atmosphere of constant fear and hatred of muslims is exactly what they wanted. Sometimes I wish I could go back to believing that republicans were just misguided, but I've been paying attention for too long. Bush and co were pure evil. There's no other word for it.
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Charlotte Brendlehedge - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:08:36 EST ID:QK8mfsjv No.388103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388096

>Still far, far worse than Trump.

Give Trump four or eight years.

I still don't consider the second Bush regime to have been legitimate since he lost the popular vote and Gore was screwed by the courts for ideological reasons.
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Barnaby Covingham - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:50:52 EST ID:2cMxajBi No.388105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388103

What do you mean?

I'm no bush fan but he won based on the rules of the system. How does that make it illegitimate?
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Lydia Nuttingpure - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:08:15 EST ID:sUBj56yv No.388106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388105
>I'm no bush fan but he won based on the rules of the system.

Not really, what happened in 2000 was unprecedented. Never has a court shutdown a recount.
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Sophie Sicklewater - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:57:22 EST ID:mtoAMITB No.388110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388106

And his brother who was the governor disqualified a whole chunk of black voters in florida which was a crucial state.


Trump businesses by Fuck Sungerkit - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:12:01 EST ID:3LkUNfDk No.387695 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do you feel about Trump refusing to divest from his businesses, instead retaining all profits while promising not to ever talk about it with his children? It seems like a big risk for corruption, especially when he regularly stays and interacts with guests at properties like Mar-a-Lago, which strains the belief that he does absolutely nothing that will benefit his businesses.

>SHANGHAI (AP) — The government of China awarded U.S. President Donald Trump valuable rights to his own name this week, in the form of a 10-year trademark for construction services.

>The registration this week came as a surprise win for Trump after a decade of trying — and failing — to wrest the rights to his name back from a man named Dong Wei. The abrupt turn in Trump's bureaucratic fortunes once he declared his candidacy has raised questions about the extent to which his political status may be helping his family business.

>Critics say Trump's global intellectual property interests could be used by foreign states as leverage over the president and may violate the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution, which bars public servants from accepting anything of value from foreign governments unless explicitly approved by Congress. These concerns are particularly sharp in China, where the courts and bureaucracy reflect the will of the ruling Communist Party.
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Matilda Fabberwatch - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 10:54:14 EST ID:b2+Yo/sQ No.388067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387695
Trump is a bad president, I don't care about ANY of the contents of /pol.

However I do LOVE the pic in your OP.
Ivanka is lusting after Canadian PM.

Fitting.
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Basil Blattingstock - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:52:46 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.388068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388067
For a converted Jew, she really wants that thick cut Canadian bacon...
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Archie Fellyfield - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 14:19:19 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.388075 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>388047
>Because Russia has shown a flagrant disregard for international law?
To be fair so have many other countries. All violations are not equal though. Putin invaded part of another country, lied about it and then annexed it. Kills journalists and political opponents and is corrupt as fuck.

It also seems weird to suggest that it would be in the national interest for the U.S.A. to cave to their clear opponent. Russia has opposed both good bad shit the U.S.A. has done. The common denominator is "opposed" not so much what you yanks have specifically done.

Russian imperialism isn't magically better than American imperialism. In fact it's generally worse. Stop being so damn binary.
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Phyllis Dingerville - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 14:23:02 EST ID:uupMwqxz No.388077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387774
its understandable to make the point about destabalization in the region in replacing the Syrian government. But at the same time you have shit like this

>http://www.amnestyusa.org/research/reports/human-slaughterhouse-mass-hangings-and-extermination-at-saydnaya-prison-syria

> In five years, as many as 13,000 people, most of them civilians believed to be opposed to the government, were hanged in secret at Saydnaya.
Human slaughterhouse: Mass hangings and extermination at Saydnaya prison, Syriaalso shows that the government is deliberately inflicting inhuman conditions on detainees at Saydnaya Prison through repeated torture and the systematic deprivation of food, water, medicine and medical care. The report documents how these extermination policies have killed massive numbers of detainees.
These practices, which amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity, are authorized at the highest levels of the Syrian government.
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Archie Fellyfield - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 14:32:30 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.388081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388077
Yeah, going after Saddam for no clear reason and dismantling the entire state was insane. Assad was however actively massacring people and has more blood on his hands than fucking ISIS. Qaddafi was actually pretty shitty towards the end too. Not that Obama complained much when the Saudis helped Bahrain put its population back under the jackboot.

>>387774
So basically you support oppression?


Trump by Charles Billingstock - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 03:45:15 EST ID:ZpYoYxAC No.386679 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Has he already won the 2020 election?
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Jenny Grandworth - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 18:08:45 EST ID:lKQJmFVW No.388039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387938
>trump has made shitlibs more like tinfoiler preppers
best timeline
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Hugh Fummleson - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:02:53 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.388045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388039
I'd be willing to bet most of those people identify as Libertarian.
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David Smallworth - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 03:28:37 EST ID:kIbnOYWZ No.388054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it is of course idiotically irrational to try to predict something like that 4 years in advance. i mean he could just be sitting in the white house when some ultra rare meteorite crashes through and hits him directly in the skull, killing him, despite all his advanced protection. or he could just lose popularity, have a major scandal or gaffe, be impeached, or even actually choose not to run for a second term (possible =/= likely). shit even an assassination is possible. i want things to proceed nonviolently always in all places, but to try to guess such a big event so far in advance is impossible.
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Hedda Hacklebud - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 05:43:52 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.388058 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387904
God damn, what a moron. Literally only able to be on his parent's insurance because of Obamacare. Literally not denied coverage because of a preexisting condition only because of Obamacare. And of course, he hates Obamacare because poor people deserve death for their horrible sin of not being born with rich parents like him.
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Beatrice Drommlekud - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 08:32:25 EST ID:3RUZOfcK No.388062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387904

You have a preexisting condition. If Obamacare gets repealed in its entirety and you hit 18, you will no longer be covered by your parents' insurance. Once you have to buy insurance on your own, most insurers will not cover you because you are a huge liability. The coverage you can get will only cover catastrophic events and will be exorbitant.

You are fucked.


IQ tests for voting by Henry Pickgold - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:05:15 EST ID:uyq3+NND No.387807 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Lately I've heard some concerns expressed on how some segments of society might not be suitable to make such an important decision.
So what do you think of instituting IQ tests for voting?
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Poopy Butthole - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 02:48:35 EST ID:ue2Y4b7A No.388052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wasnt the IQ test initially designed to be implemented for the explicit purpose of qualifying the subject of the test as colloquially "RETARDED," and not as a methodology to appraise intelligence at the opposite end of that pretty bell curve?

The only solution here is EDUCATION. Preferably non-secular, and existing in a country where the price of someone's land-property will not dictate the quality of their offspring's schooling.
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Martha Dromblebanks - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 03:32:43 EST ID:UCWcPLUZ No.388055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>388052
We must educate retards harder so they become millionaires, that gonna totally work because everyone is equal.
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Simon Snodwell - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 03:49:32 EST ID:LoF4eMRz No.388056 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387807
It is a terrible, horrible, dangerous idea.

The purpose of voting for representatives, after all, is representation. Setting an IQ standard for representation sets an awful precedent. Slavery.
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Hugh Blythefoot - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 04:20:38 EST ID:kMHRWa3R No.388057 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388056

Maybe we should test the representatives instead?
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Alice Huzzlestock - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 06:32:36 EST ID:UdKUxyfO No.388060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388052
The first standardized intelligence tests where used in the military to determine who was suited for officer roles/more responsibility


EAT IT! EAT IT ALL YOU FAT BITCH! by Wesley Higgleben - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:31:08 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.387826 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Oh, fuck...this is HILARIOUS!

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/02/16/christie-says-trump-made-him-order-meatloaf-meal-together/ocBdUJgphM8lK10xWM6TkJ/story.html

>Christie says Trump made him order the meatloaf at meal together

>TRENTON, N.J. — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie says President Donald Trump made him order meatloaf when they dined together at the White House this week.

>Christie and his wife, Mary Pat, joined Trump at the White House on Tuesday.

>The Republican governor said while guest hosting a New York sports talk radio show Thursday that Trump pointed out the menu and told people to get whatever they want. Then he said he and Christie were going to have the meatloaf.

>‘‘This is what it’s like to be with Trump,’’ Christie said. ‘‘He says, ‘There’s the menu, you guys order whatever you want.’ And then he says, ‘Chris, you and I are going to have the meatloaf.’’’

>Trump said ‘‘I’m telling you, the meatloaf is fabulous,’’ according to Christie.
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Betsy Bemblesan - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:51:33 EST ID:Sdpn5pvY No.387972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387961
Come on... the blow-hard and the straight-man is a classic comedic combination. It's fun to watch Pence try to be serious about the bullshit his boss comes up with.
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Martha Nicklegold - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 14:32:12 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.387987 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387961
Yeah, central casting screwed the pooch on this one...
Everyone loves a buddy comedy about a guy and his fat, awkward roommate.
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Fanny Brickleforth - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:31:38 EST ID:EZ2w69pK No.387999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's so bad about meatloaf? Are you an antimeatloafist? =S
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Simon Bliddlecocke - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 13:52:31 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.388036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387999
>What's so bad about meatloaf?

Everything after Bat out of Hell.....
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Alice Sonkinfuck - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 15:52:04 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.388037 Report Quick Reply
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>>388036

Nice.


HWBDU is back by George Futtingstit - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 17:09:29 EST ID:RuXGL6X+ No.387993 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Yea so shia started this back up in New Mexico this time and the pols have migrated to cripple sub-board /hwndu/ to raid it. New shia-crowd seems way more aggressive and was meming about punching Nazis just now.
Apparently shia partnered up with some indian antifa group or something.

This should get interesting soon.


Webm related is first anon to show
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Reuben Shakewell - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 00:49:39 EST ID:NEFFIYTz No.388002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What the fuck are you two talking about
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Charlotte Shittingdale - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 01:13:13 EST ID:Sdpn5pvY No.388003 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I don't know I'm fucking hammered from scotch....
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Matilda Gattingbury - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 06:47:06 EST ID:IXdoX1BO No.388006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388002
hwillnotdivide.us

Shia Labeofs shitty art project which got shut down because /pol/ and sam hydes fans raided it to death. Now its restarted in New Mexico. Last one was in NYC
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Matilda Gattingbury - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 06:47:36 EST ID:IXdoX1BO No.388007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388006
http://hewillnotdivide.us/
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Simon Bliddlecocke - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 13:49:49 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.388034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387993
Shitty WebM....what is even on his chest?


Respect by Nigel Dattingshit - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:37:20 EST ID:SGUYj1a/ No.387573 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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All three set out with the goal to make their societies better. All three succeeded despite their own actions in many instances.

Hitler got his country flattened to the ground. The blood made ripe soil for the fruit of the future to grow in. Stalin stole as much as he could from his own people and the peoples he conquered leading the USSR to catch up to and outpace the west until the late 60s despite half a decade of total war in its heartland. Mao flipped the script on Chinese society and went 0-60 into a brick wall not once, but twice.

Like a forest fire, the three tyrants cleared out the old growth to make room for a new growth.
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Phyllis Fablingdock - Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:52:26 EST ID:JuEzEB12 No.387676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387673

I like how your post addressed the post that you were responding to in a thoughtful and meaningful way and contributed to the discussion
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John Greenhall - Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:54:29 EST ID:qIUC5SK3 No.387677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>387673
>when nobody gives a shit about the hundreds of millions who starved to death as a direct result of the exposure of colonized peasants to the world market, destruction of indigenous industry, forced transition to cash crops, incompetent administration and malthusian "relief" programs instituted under capitalist imperialism, but suddenly become bleeding heart humanitarians when it comes to the final famines that took place as a result of mismanaged collectivization in developing socialist states
If you're not just a rabid anti-communist troll, check out Farm to Factory by Robert C. Allen (an Oxford economic historian and firm believer in the efficacy of capitalism) on the success of Stalinist industrialization in ensuring broad-based expansion of standards of living and consumption despite the many problems with collectivization.
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Molly Foblingchitch - Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:48:22 EST ID:VLZSAHSu No.387682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That "the most dangerous place to be was close to the centers of power" clearly distinguishes Stalinism from fascist regimes -- here are the results of the mere two years of yezhovshchina:

>Five of Stalin's Politburo colleagues were killed, and 98 out of 139 Central Committee members. Of the Central Committee of the Ukraine Republic only three out of 200 survived; 72 of the 93 members of the Komsomol organization Central Committee perished. Out of 1,996 party leaders at the Seventeenth Congress in 1934, 1,108 were imprisoned or murdered. In the provinces 319 out of 385 regional party secretaries and 2,210 out of 2,750 district secretaries died.
Difference and Repetition by Gilles Deleuze via In Defense of Lost Causes by Zizek

Bear with me as I quote more from Zizek (pg. 206-7). Mao triggered the Cultural Revolution partly to re-establish his power (which had been seriously curtailed in the early 1960s, in the aftermath of the spectacular failure of the Great Leap Forward, when the majority of nomenklatura staged a silent inner-party coup again him).

"In spite of (or, rather, because of) all its horrors, the Cultural Revolution undoubtedly did contain elements of an enacted utopia. At its very end, before the agitation was blocked by Mao himself (since he had by then achieved his goal of re-establishing his influence and getting rid of the top nomenklatura competitors), there was the "Shanghai Commune": one million workers who simply took the official slogans seriosuly, demanding the abolition of the state and even the party itself, and the direct communal organization of society. It is significant that it was at this very point that Mao ordered the army to intervene and to restore order. The paradox is that of a leader who triggers an uncontrolled upheaval, while trying to exert full personal power--the overlapping of extreme dictatorship and extreme emancipation of the masses. The argument that the GPCR was triggered by Mao in order to get rid of rivals in the inner-party struggle and reassert his authority, and that it was tamed by the intervention of the army the moment it threatened to spiral out of control, is irrelevant here, even if true: it simply confirms that the events acquired a dynamic of their own. This genuinely revolutionary aspect of the Cultural Revolution is sometimes admitted even by conservative critics compelled to take note of the "paradox" of the "totalitarian" leader teaching people to "think and act for themselves," to rebel and destroy the very apparatus of "totalitarian domination" --here is what Gordon Chang recently wrote in the conservative journal Commentary:

>Paradoxically, it was Mao himself, the great enslaver, who in his own way taught the Chinese people to think and act for themselves. In the Cultural Revolution, he urged tens of millions of radical youths [...] to go to every corner of the country to tear down ancient temples, destroy cultural relics, and denounce their elders, including not only mothers and fathers but also government officials and Communist party members. [...] The Cultural Revolution may have been Mao's idea of ruining his enemies, but it became a frenzy that destroyed the fabric of society. As government broke down, its functions taken over by revolutionary committees and "people's communes," the strict restraints and repressive mechanisms of the state dissolved. People no longer had to wait for someone to instruct them what to do -- Mao had told them they had "the right to rebel." For the radical young, this was a time of essentially unrestrained passion. In one magnificent stroke, the Great Helmsman had delegitimized almost all forms of authority.

What this means is that we can read the Cultural Revolution at two different levels. If we read it as a part of historical reality (being), we can easily submit it to a "dialectical" analysis which perceives the final outcome of a historical process as its "truth: the ultimate failure of the Cultural Revolution bears witness to the inherent inconsistency of the very project ("notion") of cultural revolution, is is the explication--deployment--actualization of these inconsistencies (in the same way that, for Marx, the vulgar, non-heroic, capitalist daily reality of profit-seeking is the "truth" of noble Jacobin revolutionary heroism). If, however, we analyze it as an Event, as an enactment of the eternal Idea of egalitarian justice, then the ultimate factual result of the Cultural Revolution, its catastrophic failure and reversal into the recent capitalist transformation, does not exhaust the real of the Cultural Revolution: the eternal Idea of the Cultural Revolution survives its defeat in socio-historical reality, it continues to lead an underground spectral life of the ghosts of failed resurrection. This brings us back to Robespierre who expressed in a touching way the simple faith in the eternal Idea of freedom which persists through all defeats, without which, as was clear to Robespierre, a revolution "is just a noisy crime that destroys another crime," the faith most poignantly expressed in Robespierre's very last speech on 8 Thermidor 1794, the day before his arrest and execution:

>But there do exist, I can assure you, souls that are feeling and pure; it exists, that tender, imperious and irresistible passion, the torment and delight of magnanimous hearts; that deep horror of tyranny, that compassionate zeal for the oppressed, that sacred love for the homeland, that even more sublime and holy love for humanity, without which a great revolution is just a noisy crime that destroys another crime; it does exist, that generous ambition to establish here on earth the world's first Republic.
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Simon Wuffingstock - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 05:21:31 EST ID:uR9+BrFh No.388004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387677
>stalinist industrialization
>collectivism
pick one
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Simon Wuffingstock - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 07:31:34 EST ID:uR9+BrFh No.388010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387673
I like how your post addressed the post that you were responding to in a thoughtful and meaningful way and contributed to the discussion


Why did immigrants from europe stop coming to the US? by Fuck Semmlegold - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:07:34 EST ID:xLzge99V No.387789 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Pic related. Why is the % of European immigrants so low these days and to the trumpers around here, would you object if they didnt decline?
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Henry Mallybat - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 09:15:03 EST ID:jCz2/SnP No.387967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387966
>Netherlands:
Up to 24 weeks.
Later ones are legal too but get reported to the state. The law is very liberally interpreted. Illegal abortion is almost non-existent.

>Great Britain:
up to 24 weeks.

>Austria:
up to 12 weeks after Last Menstrual Period

>France:
up to 14 weeks

>Belgium:
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David Bunfuck - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 14:09:27 EST ID:tNfOTHth No.387984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387967
You are the lowest of the lowest of child predators. The worst type of child pornographer known to man! Pre-term, necrophiliac child molesters who are masturbating like Satanic apes at these murdered children's pictures! I question your motives for wanting these children to be born.
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Henry Mallybat - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 14:12:46 EST ID:jCz2/SnP No.387985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387984
The fucks wrong with you?
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Nell Sattingville - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 18:10:36 EST ID:J3Ro6eh8 No.387996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>The established US manufacturers treat immigrants like shit
>Why did their family members stop contributing to our society :(((
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Cedric Gacklemag - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 20:46:13 EST ID:tNfOTHth No.387997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387985
Pedos


So this is a Canadian site right? by Angus Sezzleworth - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 18:17:25 EST ID:5IKOFnrI No.386050 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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what chance do you think there is of a coup or violent change of power in the U.S. in the next four years? What plausible ways do you think it could happen? What would happen if trump were assassinated? I really have no idea at this point. Nothing surprises me anymore, so hopefully I can get some non American perspectives.
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Alice Noggleham - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:30:31 EST ID:9zZbCsCi No.387694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387689
That would be the way the US ended wouldn't it?

>Founders warned against European/Foreign interests controlling the US.
>Americans are too fucking stupid to maintain complete power after holding world supremacy for 70+ years.
>Lose it to Russian/Chinese/European states.

Well at least you aren't like 90% of the posters on this board saying that revolution is going to happen tomorrow at 9pm EST when the 60's were a million times closer. Seems like everyone here was high during history class in high school.
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Ian Snodwater - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:40:36 EST ID:qK9UkR/B No.387703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387694
>blind faith in things founding fathers said
>why duzn are empire last 4eva?
you're in no position to call others stupid.
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Phyllis Dambledale - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:14:04 EST ID:YPXyZD9K No.387790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387689
most objectively embarrassing thing to ever happen to washington imo nb
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Alice Chottingfock - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:49:33 EST ID:IEqmDRkE No.387916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387694
>Seems like everyone here was high during history class in high school.
Fuck yeah bro. You weren't?
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Martha Nicklegold - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 21:39:38 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.387947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>387689
>There's protests yeah, but not 60s-tier protests. Not Democratic National Convention 1968 level protests. There were all KINDS of political agitators back then, and some of them WERE overtly pushing for violent revolution. And a good chunk of them had military training and had seen combat in Vietnam to boot. Nixon had the National Guard kill protesters at Kent State even.

Very accurate. We don't have near the violent revolutionaries that were around back then. Oddly enough, this time around, the most violent revolutionaries are on the RIGHT.

>No, Trump would have to start arresting journalists en masse and slaughtering protesters to get people seriously riled up, it would probably take more than that to spark civil war.

I can actually see both those possibly happening.

Trump seems VERY close to arresting journalists. He has been pushing this narrative that the recent leaks are TREASON and "fake news." It is not a long leap to start arresting journalists who print those leaks. And the GOP will support that.

Shooting protesters though...maybe. The problem there is that Trump has little control over the majority of law enforcement in the country. The beat cops who do riot control are all local or state.

That said, if he makes some dumb fucking remark like, "If the cops shoot them, who cares? It's a good thing!" and then someone is shot...someone who matters (young white middle-class kid for example...) that could be construed as Trump ordering the hit.
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THE MEDIA LIES TO YOU by Albert Creddleville - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 01:40:38 EST ID:c9CRhoyW No.387848 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How the fuck are normies not outraged over the blatant amount of dishonesty that goes on in the media?
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Albert Creddleville - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 01:53:52 EST ID:c9CRhoyW No.387853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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If we can get #MediaLiesAgain trending then maybe people will pay more attention to shit like this
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Nathaniel Gupperfield - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 02:45:36 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.387857 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Could TrumpTards make it any more obvious that they're 18 year olds who barely discovered politics?


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