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DONALD TRUMP TAKES THE THRONE by Molly Drogglefuck - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:52:45 EST ID:KG2a/5UO No.384940 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Well done brothers. We fought a long and hard battle. Everyone was against us. The globalist interests. The media. The rest of the world.

We've come a long way and today we get to taste victory for certain.
Tonight marks the day the west wakes up from its decadent slumber of passivity as the slime of globalism has eroded our birthright and our societies degenerated from their standing just decades ago.

Ad 2016 set a new tone in the world. The people have fought back. Democracy has proven to still be alive, although contested by those who support it only in name.

May God bless the Trump administration for the next 8 years!
And may we restore to the west these values we took for granted; sanity, national pride and cultural identity.

I raise my glass for you to join me in celebration of this day!
Ave ad occidentalem!
Warned
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Warned by: C_Higgy
Message: Presidential Inauguration stream in http://taima.tv/r/morningwoood
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Archie Moshwin - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:57:08 EST ID:MyuDzBUL No.385524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Truth:

Was Trump's inauguration the most viewed when you factor in television and online viewers? Probably.

Is there a difference between people who watched at home and people who joined the crowd? Yes, and not just the obvious differences, but an ideological. If someone offered me an all expenses paid trip to the inauguration, I'd deny it because I think Trump is a twat. And I'm sure many others would too — in fact, you see millions of people protest the very next day, suggesting that people had the time and money to participate in a political event, and simply opted to skip Trump's inauguration.

Trump shouldn't convince himself that because his inauguration was the most viewed that every viewer supports him, which is what he's trying to do. The fact that so few people showed up to his inauguration in person is very embarrassing.
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Nathaniel Futtingtotch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:03:13 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.385525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385522
It's a question of philosophy.
>Human life begins at fertilization.
>What is a human life?
>Does it have value?

I'd break this into two things; When does human life begin, and when does human life begin to matter?

I suppose it is true that human life begins at fertilization. But does it have value? Life is life, it's just a minor component of the big picture.

Think about a vegetable, like a Human vegetable. A person in a permanently vegetative state. They will live and die without ever being conscious.
What is the value of this human life?

Or how about Hitler? What was the value of Hitler's life?
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Nathaniel Futtingtotch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:04:55 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.385526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Logically, it just follows that we procreate in hopes of creating those +1 people, and then when we encounter -1 people we have systems in place to imprison and kill those people, weeding them out, leaving us with a net positive value.
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Fuck Sagglebodge - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:48:18 EST ID:SNMYn4AV No.385533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385454

> Sex isn't a recreational activity, it's for procreation.

GOP has gone full "Feels not Reals." They don't live in the real world, and think if they just hope hard enough, they can make it a reality.
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Nathaniel Gosslecocke - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:56:13 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.385534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>385522
>I don't know, "human life begins at fertilization" doesn't sound exactly vague.

Fair point. And it doesn't sound vague....

Until you start actually looking at what these laws seek to do and at how babies are actually made...

See, fertilization isn't instant. It isn't like you jizz and an embryo appears. Fun fact, sperm can survive up to FIVE DAYS inside a woman. Five fucking days. And at anytime during those five days, the sperm can find the egg...which btw can be all sorts of places in there...cf eggtopic pregnancy. And even then, there can be misfires and false starts. Something like 1/3 of pregnancies end within weeks or even days due to some biological fuck up. Many women have no idea they technically miscarried.

So, as usual, the human body is kind of vague on when things happen.

Now, along come the Jebus Hates Sex People. They have been looking for decades for ways to ban not only abortion, but all birth control. They just know it is a bridge too far to come straight out and go "full Papist," on this issue.

So, they created a narrative that fits their anti-sex view. And if you Google around, you can find tons of examples of the shit they fling.
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Of Norks and Nukes. by Charles Sankinwill - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:33:52 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.384486 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Basically there doesn't seem to be any way to stop the DPRK from achieving deliverable nuclear weapons. No one likes them; they are a diplomatic pain in everyone's asses, run Nazi-style death-camps and produce nothing of value. Thus it is obvious to the regime that the only way it can keep this up in the long term is with a deterrent. Just having a nuke you can't deliver is enough to deter invasion (because you could set it off in the middle of the invading army). If you can put one (or more) on a missile then American carrier-groups and Chinese tank battalions et al, change from threats to convenient targets. The nuke is the great equalizer since, in modern warfare at least, it is much easier to destroy than to defend.

This is a problem because the Kim dynasty is plausibly crazy enough to use them (with honorable mentions to Pakistan and Israel). Similarly it may well embolden others to change the global power-balance in the same way. Most industrialized countries could easily build nukes but have chosen not to. As technology globalizes more and more countries will find they have the capability to build them. If the Ukraine had kept it's nukes they would still have Crimea. If Osirak had been rebuilt Saddam may well be growing old in Baghdad. The Japanese could go nuclear in a long weekend. Each time someone does the risk of nuclear war increases. It also severely weakens the hand of existing global powers. Consider the fact that Fatty Kim III (as the Chinese call him) is happily building on even as the rest of the world helplessly begs him to stop. Also, the only real defense against a nuke is another nuke. If Iran gets a nuke Saudi will want one too ect.

So where do you guys think this will end up leading?
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Archie Moshwin - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:51:02 EST ID:MyuDzBUL No.385521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why can't Imperialists just leave North Korea alone? The only reason North Korea wants nukes is because the govt is constantly being undermined by foreign agents. Same with Iran. If the West would just mind their own fucking business, NK and Iran wouldn't see the need for nuclear weapons.

I support North Korea's self-determination.
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Nathaniel Futtingtotch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:08:27 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.385527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385521
>If the West would just mind their own fucking business, NK and Iran wouldn't see the need for nuclear weapons.
Factless nonsense with no basis in reality. NK wants nukes because of SK. Iran wants nukes because of Saudi Arabia. It's Russia that has nukes specifically for the USA, which I appreciate. Keeps us on our toes, in a good way, in a 'don't destroy the world and yourself in the process' way. Like Dr. Strangelove.

Yet we all agree that colonizing NK by SK would be significantly better for the populace than allowing NK to just keep doing what it does.

Colonization is a wonderful things. It's inhumane NOT to colonize. Yet we are not allowed to do such, because 'muh national Democracy' is soooo important to people nowadays. God forbid we own another country and force it to become significantly better than it is.
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Beatrice Greenstone - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:16:45 EST ID:WLxiJs+M No.385529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385527

It's one thing to fall for modern day propaganda. It's a whole other thing to buy into the bullshit justifications from hundreds of years ago about how we need to take people's shit for their own benefit. Remarkably stupid and naive really. You've been outsmarted by people from the age of exploration who had such an obvious agenda it's mind-blowing you've fallen for it. lmao.

I wonder why so many former colonized states have so much enmity for their colonizers if it was such a wonderful thing, hmm
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Nathaniel Futtingtotch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:26:12 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.385530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385529
>Colonizing didn't work out before!
>De facto that means we can never try it again!
>You've been outsmarted by people from the age of exploration who had such an obvious agenda it's mind-blowing you've fallen for it. lmao.

Of course, conservatives like you have no interest in a brighter, more intelligent future, a future where we've learned from the mistakes of the past. Just because Colonizing didn't go well hundreds-a hundred years ago, doesn't mean it won't be wonderful if enacted today. Just like voter examinations may not have worked a hundred years ago, yet I don't doubt it would be wonderful if we enacted it today.

Here's a simple fact you do not grasp. As history moves forward, so does technology, so does education amongst the entire country.
Or, do you think Colonizers hundreds of years ago had the internet, and HD cameras to watch how their colonies run? Did groups exist that were solely meant to audit these entities and make sure they're upholding civil standards and human rights?
No?
That's why you're wrong. And you dare laugh in my face about it. Well, you keep looking backward, my friend. Keep looking at history. I'll be looking at the future. I'll keep thinking like Elon Musk, you keep thinking like...whoever doesn't really risk new ventures.
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Nell Pittville - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:36:16 EST ID:waO84ztz No.385532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385530
>I'll keep thinking like Elon Musk
I'm pretty sure that Elon Musk doesn't waste his time arguing with nobodies on imageboards, so I doubt that very much.


American Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo by Polly Blackgold - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:41:05 EST ID:08QGDkbq No.385214 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How long until Civil War breaks out in the US?

Who do you think the main factions will be?

Where do you think the flashpoint will be?

What states do you think will be on each side?

What do you reckon will happen in the aftermath?
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Fucking Sabberwell - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:31:10 EST ID:9QtGH0F5 No.385516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385500
the 7th largest economy in the world regularly faces severe wildfires, water shortages, and massive debt/deficits. Without federal support California is no longer the 7th largest economy.

Also inb4 other countries will line up to trade with/support them if they secede. The confederacy bet the entire war on this point a fucking lost because of that massive miscalculation.

>And yes, the EC is fucked up. It was designed to count slaves as "sort of people," without making them ACTUAL people under the law so some fat-ass slave owners could have more power than they should.

You are aware that the 3/5ths clause isn't a thing anymore, right?... You're wrong anyway. The entire premise behind the EC is that a union of individual sovereign states can decided how they want the participate in federal elections in such a way that major population centers cannot decide the election for all 50 states when say, 40 of them want the opposite. The EC is the great equalizer and it's a damn good thing. Slaves always were an afterthought, because originally they didn't count anyway.
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Fucking Sabberwell - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:42:39 EST ID:9QtGH0F5 No.385517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385515
>That's how democracy is supposed to work. The side with mores votes wins.

Thank you for demonstrating why direct democracy is such an awful idea and why a federal republic is a much better model. I'm not sure if you're a eurofag but if you aren't it sounds like you'd probably prefer their style of democracy. It would never work in the US, and the EC being the method we use is kinda the whole point of the US as a concept.

Each state in this union deserves to be represented individually, since the US is a federation as opposed to one monolith nation-state. Sectionalism still exists in this county and that is a good thing. The federal government should have no part in the election process (as to avoid corruption of the highest degree) and each state aught to retain its sovereignty and that means the right to determine how they choose to be represented in a process like electing the president. If we were to use the popular vote to determine the presidency instead, then we are allowing mob rule and the slippery slope there is that the majority gets to violate the rights of minorities.

I encourage you to do some reading on ancient and classical Greece. Maybe then you'll understand why a directly democratic, flat popular vote is no different then a fascist dictatorship. Your comment about North Korea is very ironic considering the DPRK technically utilizes direct democracy to keep the KWP in power.

Also, I don't live in a red state and I'm not a conservative, so you can fuck off.
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Shitting Bleblingdare - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:50:00 EST ID:VqGtqGtM No.385520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385517
>the majority gets to violate the rights of minorities
this is faulty since that's happening now without direct democracy.
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Nell Pittville - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:15:07 EST ID:waO84ztz No.385528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385517
>democracy is only good when it benefits me
Write all the textwalls you want, you're not fooling anyone anymore. No matter how many subjective, unprovable "shoulds" and "deserves" you pull out of your ass, the plain result is treating the votes of some people as "more equal" than others for no reason other than the fact that they were born in the wrong state. And how exactly was it determined that the state borders as drawn just so happen to perfectly align with your undefined undemocratic minorirt-rule ideal? How did you determine that one man sitting on the California side of the Nevada border gets to have a fraction of the democratic power has his neighbor sitting a few hundred yards to the east? What fundamental agreed-upon notion is that based on? How do you know that the borders are just, considering the vast unequalizing power that you demand that they have in our society? Did God create these perfect borders for your perfect society? Having decided that his voice is less worthy than his neighbor's, how did you determine exactly how much to fractionally disenfranchise him? Did God write the equation for you? If so, then could you please share that equation with us? If not, then kindly explain why anyone should trust that your ill-defined intentionally-unequal mathematical rejiggering is inherently more just than a simple democratic count, rather than just something that cynically benefits you. If you're so sure that this is the perfectly realized undemocratic utopua then show your fucking work. Show us how you proved that the EC distribution is ideal.

If the Electoral College made it so that your voice counted for a fraction of mine, your tune would change real fucking quick. If you're going to dress up your cynical self-interest as some sort of higher ideal, at least put some real effort into it.
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Nathaniel Gosslecocke - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:31:30 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.385531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385516
>Slaves always were an afterthought, because originally they didn't count anyway.

Nope. Check your history. The slave issue was so contentious that the 3/5ths Compromise was created to avoid total meltdown.

Then again, I assume you are from a red state and thus wholly under-educated in such matters.


Voting by Graham Gishridge - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:21:39 EST ID:/sE/3liU No.385495 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How many people do you think will vote in the next midterm election? Personally, I think that's the only real acid test of social agitation in the U.S. People will have marches, shut down highways, bitch on Facebook and NPR, but how many will vote for state senators or judges? Do you have strong opinions about the outcome of the last election? Do you know who your reps are? Are you just an edgy hipster faggot entertaining yourself to death just like the rest of America?

At this point, I think I am. I just don't care anymore. The important thing is that the next four years are going to be entertaining. Maybe good things will happen, maybe bad, I don't care. Pussies will probably be grabbed. I don't know what district I'm in and I'm not going to vote because I'll be binge watching the third season of Stranger Things on Netflix and posting about it here. Fuck it.
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Shitting Bleblingdare - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:46:32 EST ID:VqGtqGtM No.385496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385495
It depends how bad things are two years from now. Trump's problem is he's going 0-60 full shithead. If he went slow and steady, like all his predecessors, the people wouldn't even notice their rights, money, security, etc are being taken away.

I'm sure a mix of good and bad things will happen, just like with any president. the bad will vastly outweigh the good this time around though, and that's going to get people to the polls.

I've voted in every election since I was 18. I'd love to convince you to go out and vote. It's not that big of a hassle...
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Nathaniel Gosslecocke - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:08:13 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.385502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385496
Voter turnout will be at a record low in the mid-terms.

Dems will take such a beating that they will fall off the ballot in many places. The Dems will OFFICIALLY become a minor party with holdings on the West Coast and a handful of places on the east. Already, the GOP is making HUGE (sorry...YUGE) inroads in MA. Elizabeth Warren is looking to be unseated at this point and we could easily see the GOP take 50-60% of the seats in MA during the midterms.
They are a dead party that does nothing but ponders how they can appease Trump and get his crumbs.


Trump BTFO by Eugene Pickgold - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:51:19 EST ID:I3FnSNZB No.384998 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Photos of Presidential Inauguration in 2009 vs. 2017.

HAHAHA.
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Isabella Goodfuck - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:42:08 EST ID:I3FnSNZB No.385483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>385477
>Anyone who preaches 'Punch a Nazi' is a fucking Nazi.

Really? Stupid.

Go find a bunch of World War II vets and say that shit. You'll be the one getting punched by a bunch of patriots.

>Nazi is just such an over-used word these days. "Literally everyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi" really sums up my generation, it seems.

There are people all over openly calling themselves Nazis, Alt-Right (a re-branding as Spencer himself has said) and throwing up the Seig Heil salute saying "Hail Trump!"

Wake up.
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Isabella Goodfuck - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:44:57 EST ID:I3FnSNZB No.385484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385474

I was talking about how your focus of this weekend is solely Antifa and their actions while you're ignoring the actual big events. My friends who are Republicans FB feeds are filled with the video of the burning limo with almost ZERO attention to the massive amount of protesters.

They're a distraction, and you're distracted.
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Ebenezer Serringhood - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:23:02 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.385489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385484
>I was talking about how your focus of this weekend is solely Antifa and their actions while you're ignoring the actual big events
Can you, like, stop with the knee-jerk reactions. Check these IDs, I dont think youre talking to who you think you're talking to.

We are in agreement on these matters.

I dont appreciate having long debates about these matters, only to get called a distracted conservative by someone I agree with.
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Isabella Goodfuck - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:57:35 EST ID:I3FnSNZB No.385491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385489
>Can you, like, stop with the knee-jerk reactions. Check these IDs, I dont think youre talking to who you think you're talking to.

No.

>I dont appreciate having long debates about these matters, only to get called a distracted conservative by someone I agree with

Then try being consistent in your thought patterns.
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David Cledgehod - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:00:02 EST ID:q1GtPVF2 No.385493 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385491
You're a fucking retard. Again, pay attention to who you're replying to.


The New War On Legal Weed? by David Sucklechit - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:55:03 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.384891 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This is an attempt to dehijack a thread on /weed/....

So, Jeff Sessions is set to be our new Attorney General.
He has also said that "good people don't smoke marijuana," and sworn that we need more drug war bullshit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/18/trumps-pick-for-attorney-general-good-people-dont-smoke-marijuana/?utm_term=.0484c4099ce1

Here are the options the government can take, BTW against legal weed sales.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/judicial/314569-trumps-marijuana-options

This puts us in a bad place, I think, because a guy like Sessions is likely to go full retard and pump up the DEA, etc and start doing local state raids like the bad old days. All he has to do is shut down dispensaries and related businesses...hell, just shutting down 10% will probably chill the market considerably and make shit hard for legal weed states.

Some argue that this is impossible given the GOP's promise to cut the budget, etc etc... But, history has show the GOP has no problem with spending when it is on something THEY want. Iraq War...War on Drugs...etc.

What say you?
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David Cledgehod - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 20:38:09 EST ID:q1GtPVF2 No.385358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385349
When the time comes, you will know.
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Nathaniel Gosslecocke - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 20:38:30 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.385359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385356
Be warned...at this rate I will be coming to LIVE in Sweden.

Which would be rather nice, actually...
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Hamilton Senningdale - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 20:55:27 EST ID:rM/FJjDd No.385367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385358
I play too much GTA to not kill some fucking feds
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David Sottingfirk - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 21:09:57 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.385368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>385359
You're welcome but we're only likely to get medicinal weed in like 10yrs. Our healthcare is pretty vigilant against over-prescribing and abuse of medication too so it likely won't be that easy to get. We do have weed but it's likely to remain illegal for recreational consumption for ages and it's a bit expensive. It's not considered a worse crime than speeding though and in generally reasonably easy to get or grow. Much of Europe has it better than pedantic and over-protective Sweden on the drug front. We do have tons of shrooms though. It's not exactly enforceable when something grows naturally in a country where almost everyone spends a fuckton (metric and compared to most other countries) of time in nature.
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Fucking Sabberwell - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:49:18 EST ID:9QtGH0F5 No.385490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>385359
Want your daughters raped by arab-muslim gangs that have "sexual emergencies" huh?


Why does nobody talk about this? by Betsy DeVos - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 03:07:38 EST ID:u14mnGgU No.385141 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>Betsy DeVos
>Family allegedly donated more than $200 million dollars to Trump's campaign
>She is given a position in Trump's cabinet
>Her brother is Erik Prince
>Founder of Blackwater
Can someone explain this shit to me and why it's okay?
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Charles Sinderridge - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:39:47 EST ID:3RUZOfcK No.385451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385433

So, first off, his facts are a little confused. Betsy DeVos did not donate 200 million to Donald Trump. What she's done is donate over 200 million to Republican candidates over the course of her life. I'm trying to find how much she specifically donated to Republican candidates this cycle, but it's going to take me a while.

That said, we have plenty of other examples of direct pay-for-play in the Trump administration. For example, McMahon Ventures donated 6,000,000 to Trump's campaign, the second largest individual contribution.

https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/contrib.php?cmte=C00618876&cycle=2016

Linda McMahon has an appointment hearing for the Small Business Administration tomorrow morning. Weird coincidence, huh?
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Ebenezer Serringhood - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:49:36 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.385455 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385448
>Private schooling is superior to public schooling in every single way possible
Except for the part where only rich kids get an education worth shit and the fact that there's little educational standards means even the rich kids might be fucked. Especially with Christian schools she's so fond of.

>he curriculum is more advanced and more catered to the students, the teachers love their jobs and are very bright people, bad kids get expelled significantly more than in public schools, weeding out the bad eggs from the good eggs and sending them off to special schools for violent children and so on (charter schools)
1.) Source?
2.) Public schools have the same curriculums, teachers that love what they do, bright kids, expel bad kids

It's absurd. You've caricaturized public schools in your head to the point where you believe every single public school in the country is a clone of Garfield High in East LA.
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Shitting Bleblingdare - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:24:39 EST ID:VqGtqGtM No.385466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385451
>Linda McMahon has an appointment hearing for the Small Business Administration tomorrow morning.
can i watch this live anywhere? it doesn't appear to be on the c-span schedule...
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Nathaniel Futtingtotch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:30:29 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.385467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385455
>In a privatized world, where schools will range from cheap to expensive, ONLY the wealthy will be able to afford school and yet education standards will only go lower meaning their education will suck!
Yeah ok. Sources?

>Source?
Dude, that's how private schools work. The education is better, the teachers are better and happier, and you get only dedicated students.
http://www.moneytalksnews.com/school-showdown-public-private/
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/03/why-im-a-public-school-teacher-but-a-private-school-parent/386797/

>) Public schools have the same curriculums, teachers that love what they do, bright kids, expel bad kids
Public scholol curriculums are a joke, 30% of public school teachers hate their job, and bad kids don't get expelled from public schools, that's why they're notoriously less-safe and less-efficient.

>You've caricaturized public schools
Nigga, I went to THE BEST public school in PA. It was garbage. The education I got paled in comparison to my middle-school education at a private school that cost about as much as my public school taxes did. In other words, my family had to pay double for me to get a good education, and then had to pay single just so I could get a bad education at the best school in PA, where as in a privatized world they'd have paid single for a great education and probably never opted for public at all.
When I was in 8th grade, we were studying the Russian Revolution from our history books whilst reading Animal Farm together. We also had latin lessons weekly to deepen our understanding of English. In 11th grade at public school, we had never once learned about the Russian Revolution, and when we read Animal Farm (in 11th grade) we made zero comparisons of it to the Revolution.
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Ebenezer Serringhood - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:15:27 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.385476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385467
>where schools will range from cheap to expensive, ONLY the wealthy will be able to afford school
Yeah that's not what I said. Like, at all.
When the quality of your education is determined by how much money you've got, only the wealthy will get a QUALITY education. Everyone else gets jam packed in the cheap ass school with textbooks from the 1980s. That is the makings of a plutocracy.

>Dude, that's how private schools work. The education is better, the teachers are better and happier, and you get only dedicated students
Only because the schools are so exclusive. When they get an influx of kids from all over the place, the standards will gradually lower. This is why these places only accept a small handful of kids, the good ones anyway.

>Public scholol curriculums are a joke
When was the last time you were in one?
>30% of public school teachers hate their job
There is no way to prove such an outrageous statement, but even if that were the case, that means 70% love their job.
>bad kids don't get expelled from public schools
Except they do. I dont know who the hell told you otherwise.
>Nigga, I went to THE BEST public school in PA. It was garbage.
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Obama does it again - but who cares cos he black tho by Sophie Pinkinkerk - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:22:53 EST ID:e7AwbS06 No.385323 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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With mere days left before President-elect Donald Trump takes the White House, President Barack Obama’s administration just finalized rules to make it easier for the nation’s intelligence agencies to share unfiltered information about innocent people.

New rules issued by the Obama administration under Executive Order 12333 will let the NSA — which collects information under that authority with little oversight, transparency, or concern for privacy — share the raw streams of communications it intercepts directly with agencies including the FBI, the DEA, and the Department of Homeland Security, according to a report by the New York Times.

>However — and this is especially troubling—“if analysts stumble across evidence that an American has committed any crime, they will send it to the Justice Department,” the Times wrote. So information that was collected without a warrant — or indeed any involvement by a court at all — for foreign intelligence purposes with little to no privacy protections, can be accessed raw and unfiltered by domestic law enforcement agencies to prosecute Americans with no involvement in threats to national security.

Who's the fascist now?
Fully sourced so pre-emptive stfu to noobs;
https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2017/01/18/obama-expands-surveillance-powers-on-his-way-out/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AWCBlog+%28Antiwar.com+Blog%29
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Nathaniel Gosslecocke - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 20:31:10 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.385355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385328
>But if you tried to tell a dem during the Obama administration that maybe we shouldn't be so loosey goosey with targeted killings and executive orders because Obama wasn't going to be president forever, then they'd look at you like you were crazy.

Not this Dem, but yes...there were far too few who said no to that.
Which is why I am now independent. Fuck them.
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David Sottingfirk - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 20:49:56 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.385364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>385328
>maybe we shouldn't be so loosey goosey with targeted killings and executive orders
This should be obvious in and of itself. Why is an explanation even required to oppose extrajudicial killing? Is it only because they thought up a more complicated term for murder?
>because Obama wasn't going to be president forever
That isn't even an argument. I'm pretty sure it even runs afoul of your constitution thing.

One of the things that really annoyed me about the Obama presidency has been that the dumb shit people accused Obama for drowned out the actual shit. He droned an underage American citizen but people were mad at him for being born in Kenya. He downloaded the emails between you and your lawyer but the airwaves were full of him being a traitorous Muslim because he tried to shut down Guantanamo (Gitmo is a clear war-crime in general btw).
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Ebenezer Cadgetudge - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:01:19 EST ID:vBlKOcJ5 No.385458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385325
Thanks Obama!
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Beatrice Greenstone - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:17:31 EST ID:WLxiJs+M No.385507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385364

>This should be obvious in and of itself. Why is an explanation even required to oppose extrajudicial killing? Is it only because they thought up a more complicated term for murder?

Because people are desperate for real change and really, really want to believe that Obama didn't fuck them over too, that things will be alright if they just vote for the right guy, because that entails much less responsibility and vigilance (work). Also a lot of people are chumps who are fooled by a smile and a laugh and good speeches and don't judge politicians and people in general by their actions rather than their words.

This is also why the democratic party still exists at all
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Beatrice Greenstone - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:22:47 EST ID:WLxiJs+M No.385511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385507

oh, there's also the fact that there are plenty of american liberals who couldn't give less of a fuck about the victims of american empire, or even victims in their own country, as long as their insulated yuppie bubble doesn't get popped and they don't have to face any moral cognitive dissonance


I don't see a problem with this by Albert Nickledale - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 16:48:40 EST ID:URtPjsoE No.384218 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone else honestly want to live in angrywhitemanistan?
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Cornelius Nickleville - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:19:54 EST ID:i1eo8CqX No.385276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>384938
More to the point, will polygamy be allowed?
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David Nimmleridge - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 09:51:49 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.385293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>384945
>Seems most people here are afraid to engage me in debate.

No, everybody here is bored of "engaging you in debate", because time after time you're proven to be completely full of shit and time after time you just blow it off and keep insisting it's everyone else who's deluded. Just like you're doing now. Once there are too many people in the thread openly mocking what an obvious lying scumbag you are, you'll stop responding and disappear for a while before resurfacing in another thread, just like you always do, once again claiming that nobody ever proves you wrong. Until they do, and you fuck off again like the coward you are.

It's really becoming very sad. The joke's old now.
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Nathaniel Futtingtotch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:32:22 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.385449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>385293
>I HATE YOU

Awwww. God it feels good to read this first thing on a Monday morning.

But really, don't call someone a coward unless you've got the balls to engage them in a real debate. Crying doesn't solve anything here, my friend. You are clearly upset because I do not respond to every single one of the stupid arguments that get thrown my way. I don't know what to tell you, most of the people here just want to scream at each other, not really debate with facts and sources, so I end up ignoring like half the responses I get because they're blatantly ridiculous and I have no interest in entertaining them. That being said, God knows there've been some great discussions on here I've been happily a part of.
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Charles Sinderridge - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:42:07 EST ID:3RUZOfcK No.385452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385449

>independent individual who considers ALL the information and reads ALL the sources
>really debate with facts and sources
>daily caller and truthandaction.org
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Beatrice Greenstone - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:54:58 EST ID:WLxiJs+M No.385523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385293

Reminds me of Soviet Psychonaut :)


Trump BTFO Lying Crooked Trump by Albert Blackshit - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 03:14:43 EST ID:w1j2CPU/ No.385423 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Destroying ISIS;Nope
>http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-intervention-in-syria-not-under-trump/5570201
>http://abcnews.go.com/International/trump-early-chance-target-isis-leader-al-baghdadi/story?id=44920109
>http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/21/trump-to-cia-youre-off-the-leash-in-war-on-isis/

No intervention in Syria not sending a delegation to ensure the US gets it's way in Syria. But the CIA is off the leash ,sounds like bullshit and posturing. Is it really going to destroy Daesh? No it's not.

Donald Trump has five carrier battle groups at his command that he could order to the Mediterranean to strike ISIS within a few weeks. There is at least one that could be striking targets in Syria within 48 hours. He could have two more there within a week. Why has he not announced his intention to do so? He doesn't need to send the entire US Navy, but if we've elected true nationalist than he should have already made the announcement and sent the Navy to do its job.
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Isabella Heggleman - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:24:29 EST ID:QS8evc2c No.385445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's not going to bomb Syria and get in the way of his handlers in Russia's master plan. If anything he might re-invade Iraq and wipe up what is left of ISIS there...which isn't much but it might send the Iranian-backed groups back home too.


: / by Martha Dillydet - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:43:35 EST ID:rM/FJjDd No.385334 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I work at a recreational dispensary in Colorado, am I gonna get v&?

I'm worried about AG Sessions, I don't wanna get ass raped!
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Eliza Wiggledock - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:46:05 EST ID:ak1UrSqG No.385336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We've been talking about this very thing, a few threads down. >>384891
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Martha Dillydet - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:56:03 EST ID:rM/FJjDd No.385338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385336
Thanks friend-o

Sorry for being a new fag


Constitution still allows for slavery by Ebenezer Mendermene - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 13:23:20 EST ID:1iuVqFig No.385301 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So,

I was debating with a 38 year old anarchist bartender last night. He was giving me the usual Tropes about how we now have literal nazis, how only white people get ahead etc.

Anyways, he started telling me about how the US constitution still allows for slavery, pointing to the 13th amendment which states that slavery or involuntary servitude is outlawed except as a punishment for a crime.

I don't need to explain the logic of his argument, I think its pretty apparent what he was trying to say.

I've never really thought about this. Anyone have anything to say?
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Eliza Wiggledock - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 13:32:11 EST ID:ak1UrSqG No.385302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah. It's been in the news this year quite a bit with the prison strike. https://theintercept.com/2016/09/16/the-largest-prison-strike-in-u-s-history-enters-its-second-week/

In Colorado we voted down an amendment to make remove the exception this year. Personally I don't think we should have prison slaves, unless it's some sort of consensual BDSM thing.
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Ebenezer Mendermene - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 13:51:50 EST ID:1iuVqFig No.385305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385301
His argument was that when the Nazis come they will use this provision to enslave everyone.

As in, the government will decide that everyone is a criminal.
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Molly Blatherfuck - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 14:53:48 EST ID:9QtGH0F5 No.385306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385301
His argument would have had more validity about 100 years ago. But the only states that seem to really still take advantage of this are the one's you'd expect. Alabama, Mississippi... Many states have in their constitutions laws that make this illegal in their state, and most of the ones who don't, don't really take advantage of it. I think wider society knows and feels that even for criminals forced labor is wrong. I mean, we see lawsuits all the time about that sort of thing.

I don't think it's right for the modern age. I can understand why at the time it seemed appropriate. But should the authoritarian left or right find themselves in power, there should be no legal structure available to justify North Korean style labor camps.
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Phoebe Norringgold - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:12:17 EST ID:XqOr0TAj No.385322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385305
He's not a very bright anarchist if he isn't already aware of wage slavery.
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William Mabberville - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:38:46 EST ID:ur/J0IFg No.385332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>385322
Issue with Anarchists in general, in my opinion, is that they identify all these items that they have issue with, calling pretty much everyone/thing that they agree with fascists while basically acting like facists.


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