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UK elections by Jezza 4 Prezza - Mon, 29 May 2017 18:55:19 EST ID:Owfk27h3 No.392859 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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UK elections happen in June and the major battle is boiling down to conservative incumbent Teresa May vs rogue labor leader Jeremy Corbyn. May is currently in the lead but Corbyn has been rapidly closing the gap from a surge of youthful populism and general malcontent with May's austerity measures.
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Walter Snodbanks - Sat, 17 Jun 2017 10:31:37 EST ID:02mbn6y+ No.393902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>393893

You're on /pol/ dude. Half of the posters are the future immigrants talking to each other behind proxies. My opinion here changes with who ever seems emotionally vulnerable.
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Sidney Demblechedging - Sun, 18 Jun 2017 21:50:59 EST ID:MRs6Exj/ No.393936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>393902
as a result we get fights between tankies and outright fascists. the worst of both worlds, it's kind of incredible.
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Walter Claydale - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:44:53 EST ID:LdUUFd4d No.394132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392859
So May got her makeshift government, but at the cost of a £1 billion bribe to the fundamentalist-colonialists in Northern Ireland. It's amazing how easy it is to find that magic money tree when it comes to paying for the Tories' massive incompetence and corruption.
>There is a magic money tree. But only for the Queen and the DUP https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/27/magic-money-tree-queen-dup-theresa-may-northern-ireland
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Martin Soppersere - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 00:44:23 EST ID:PIa6yiXY No.394146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394132
I can't wait till a DUPer snaps and calls for the gassing of Republicans in Parliament.
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Eliza Brookshaw - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 06:13:08 EST ID:KBkCIVWm No.394147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394132

I don't think it's reporting in good faith when the author of a news article lambasts the target of the hit piece with "Theresa May – whose lack of emotional intelligence is only matched by her lack of authority".

It then goes on to an emotional appeal of nurses going to food banks, and describing the Tories as a racket for wealthy backers. The article seems to be trying to criticize something the author would have supported if another party had spearheaded it, and even admits that the influx of money is good for Northern Ireland.


Welcome to the future, Deafism. by Ian Digglespear - Mon, 26 Jun 2017 16:34:28 EST ID:6+Z7qbbv No.394115 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why, what is this brand new political Ideology?, I hear you ask!
It's none other than the absolute future for humanity.

Deafism is the belief that everything is fine and we shouldn't do anything about it. However, it can be by far more extreme than just that.

Say your local roads have come into disrepair because politicians have cut funding for transportation.

Now a socialist would divert public spending to repair the road.

A fascist would rip up the road and build a brand new one from the ground.

A Libertarian would privatize the road and have individual companies own the sections, placing tolls along the road.

A liberal would raise taxes and spend 12% of the newly raised taxes on the road.
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Henry Sallybanks - Mon, 26 Jun 2017 17:36:31 EST ID:kXkaFVu/ No.394116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394115
freedom of choice (is what you got)
freedom from choice (is what you want)
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Cedric Bunway - Mon, 26 Jun 2017 20:28:03 EST ID:6+Z7qbbv No.394121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
y'all niggas better fucking start laughing soon.
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Oliver Pammlekare - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 07:42:14 EST ID:OKTRjzWW No.394130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can't slap a new label on our existing system and call it a political ideology.

(air horns)
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Hugh Ginderwidging - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 23:08:19 EST ID:TdUXjOCH No.394145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394130

GET LOUD

GET SILLY


Utah has had it up to here with Trump by David Sunnerkit - Thu, 22 Jun 2017 12:46:50 EST ID:JCI8Q5Ex No.394013 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So even Utah, one of the most reliable Republican strongholds in the country, is getting fed up with Trump. Jason Chaffetz, a Mormon Republican rep who is stepping down to run for governor, apparently finally feels free enough now to speak his mind about the Orange One:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/338408-chaffetz-trump-administration-almost-worse-than-obamas
>“The reality is, sadly, I don't see much difference between the Trump administration and the Obama administration. I thought there would be this, these floodgates would open up with all the documents we wanted from the Department of State, the Department of Justice, the Pentagon,” Chaffetz said.
>“In many ways, it's almost worse because we're getting nothing, and that's terribly frustrating and, with all due respect, the attorney general has not changed at all. I find him to be worse than what I saw with [former Attorney General] Loretta Lynch in terms of releasing documents and making things available. I just, that's my experience, and that's not what I expected,” he said.

Meanwhile, latest poll shows Trump has a majority unfavorable rating in the state:
http://www.utahpolicy.com/index.php/features/today-at-utah-policy/13554-poll-majority-of-utahns-view-president-trump-unfavorably

So how do Trumpets explain losing the favor of such a reliable red state? Cracks in the Republican coalition? Conspiracy by the Mormon Mafia? Revenge for fucking with Romney? Cuckservatives? An incompatibility between moderate Mormon morality vs. frogposting edgelord xenophobia? Or maybe a recognition of the long-term damage that Trump's divisive, corrupt incompetence does to the conservative movement overall?

Trump may very well keep the Evangelical South and the future till the end of time, but the periphery of American conservatism seems to be losing patience. How long until more conservative communities start to get disillusioned?
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Walter Claydale - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:33:15 EST ID:LdUUFd4d No.394131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394045
>Anyone know if the LDS presidents or the Quorum endorsed or denied Trump?
The LDS leadership is supposed to technically stay political neutral so as not to become beholden to one party (for all the good that's done), but if you read in between the lines of all the statements they have made about his policies and the political climate, it's pretty clear what their feelings are on the man.

It's interesting, the Trump movement has put the LDS is in a pretty tough position. On the one hand, Trump represents everything about the Republican party that makes Mormons uncomfortable (religious intolerance, sexual impropriety, nativism, celebrity worship, extreme selfishness, "I love the poorly-educated"). On the other hand, they don't want lose the favor of the greater GOP money machine and they don't want to put themselves in the crosshairs of the neo-nazis and Trump's frog-posting diehards. So they're stuck giving vague, wink-wink condemnations of everything surrounding Trumpism without directly coming out against Trump himself.

If Dems were smart they would exploit this friction to weaken the GOP hold over the LDS, maybe try to build up some pro-life, pro-gun moderates in the state to get some kind of foothold. But they aren't, so they won't.
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James Hubblespear - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:50:26 EST ID:OlRrvyNU No.394133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394059
That's literally why socialists support mass immigration. Foreigners make great zergs for them. Its not about altruistic signalling but realpolitik.
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Edwin Hubberfat - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:52:05 EST ID:d2K5URtx No.394134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394133
altruism and realpolitik aren't mutually exclusive.
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Jarvis Nickleshit - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:29:26 EST ID:IIsxRMZh No.394141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394131
>makes Mormons uncomfortable (religious intolerance, sexual impropriety, nativism,
>nativism

LOL....Mormons are the premier nativist religion in the US!
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Lillian Ginnershaw - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 22:55:04 EST ID:+tNk8SCz No.394144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394131

The Evangelicals have been the biggest phonies as far as Trump goes. As for the Catholics, I guess many of the US ones are just ignoring the Pope. Fucking Trump gave Newt Gingrich's 3rd wife the Ambassador spot... LOL.


Fuck it, I'm voting Red next election. by Martin Purringlut - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 18:56:02 EST ID:kMHRWa3R No.394036 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How many of you people got true socialist parties in your countries? I do, and I'm throwing my vote in for 'em.

I mean, we've all watched the far left doing a real comeback the last years, even to the point of trying to rebrand themselves into not-nazis.

It's fucking time to stop this liberal/labour strategic voting. If you got some true reds in your country, start to walk the walk comrade. The liberal dimwits have clearly shown where they're at, and labour parties still answer to their free-market bourgeoisie masters as they've always done. We're all tired of these people, both alt-right and us blood-red ffs.
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Cedric Duddlelore - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:28:33 EST ID:Os8xTHvG No.394138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394136
I hope you were being ironic with that picture of Trudeau.
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Cedric Bunway - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:45:13 EST ID:6+Z7qbbv No.394139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394138
hehe, no true scottsman and whatnot
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:01:36 EST ID:QiGBcKwL No.394140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394137
Comrade, I recommend you read "Settlers."
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Hugh Dirryford - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 17:32:48 EST ID:KVQJ8U2S No.394142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>true socialist parties
"BYOB (as well as everybody else's)"
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Hugh Ginderwidging - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 22:52:21 EST ID:TdUXjOCH No.394143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>394139


Murray Bookchin by Sidney Parryway - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:19:52 EST ID:YQmdjdSy No.392373 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do you feel about Murray Bookchin? He is a notable contemporary philosophy, particularly as it is his ideas that have inspired the dialectical naturalist philosophy of the Kurds in Northern Syria, as well as their directly democratic political system.
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Phyllis Goodman - Sun, 11 Jun 2017 21:48:53 EST ID:um3mB44V No.393628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>393627
>challenged by me at >>383292, as present thread is in fact
>>392383, I meant. nb
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Phyllis Goodman - Sun, 11 Jun 2017 21:50:41 EST ID:um3mB44V No.393629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>393627
Fuck! I distinctively opening the box to select the pic !!! nb
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Augustus Sodgepune - Mon, 12 Jun 2017 06:15:11 EST ID:6fFoxfcu No.393634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>393628
lol yeah I thought you were replying to the wrong person lol
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Henry Hecklelock - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:42:44 EST ID:6Lc+yC0b No.393979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>How do you feel about Murray Bookchin?
He's fucking based. I love his writings
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Hamilton Ginnerridge - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 06:53:17 EST ID:ptmIZdVH No.394129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i just know about him from leftypol but haven't read anything, what's a good one to start with?


Why are conservatives almost always pro war? by George Pirringkare - Mon, 12 Jun 2017 14:17:22 EST ID:kjiDtb5D No.393649 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Often war leads to technological, social, geopolitical and political change. Conservatives generally want to maintain the status quo. So aren't they just sabotaging themselves?
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Mon, 26 Jun 2017 20:24:34 EST ID:QiGBcKwL No.394120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394119
Yes, in the sense it was the only war the United States fought on its own territory. However you could argue it reflected (nascent) American imperial ambitions in its own way.
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Jarvis Nickleshit - Mon, 26 Jun 2017 20:29:21 EST ID:IIsxRMZh No.394122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394120
You also might be able to argue that the Mexican American War was a defensive war, but only if you hold that Texas legally seceded from Mexico, before being annexed by the US.
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Hannah Wumblecocke - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 03:32:12 EST ID:nppI2w1T No.394125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394112
>the US understood that its actions would lead to war with Japan and welcomed this contingency
Not selling a country materials they're using to wage a brutal war of imperialism, even if you expect that country will attack you is not an act of aggression.
By that logic, Poland was the aggressor against Nazi Germany because they refused to cede land knowing Germany might invade them.
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 04:11:09 EST ID:QiGBcKwL No.394126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394125
Interestingly enough I never said it was an act of aggression.
>By that logic,
No.
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 04:42:24 EST ID:QiGBcKwL No.394127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have never claimed that the US in fact attacked Japan, which would not make sense. I've only pointed out that the US hoped for a casus belli — to consolidate its strategic holdings in the Pacific, and to eliminate Japan as a major player in the wider region. It clearly succeeded, as now the US has a massive military installation located on sovereign Japanese territory in Okinawa, which US Marines fought bitterly to conquer in the final months of the war. Apologies to OP for helping to derail your thread.


The hurt... by Nathaniel Nullytune - Sun, 28 May 2017 23:46:56 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.392814 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I admit I am in a bubble. In a deep blue state, liberal part of even that, and doing OK in life.

Keep hearing about how shitty it is for red staters and that is why they went Trump. Like a giant "fuck you," for being ignored.

How shitty is it?

I have tried to nose around in various FB groups...especially ones with live video antics happening. And...holy fuck...not sure if my demos are skewed or what, but WTF Third World Bullshit is out there? I mean, there is this one streamer who is 23 and from Alabama. She looks fucking 40. A bunch of others have these fucked up lives...like the guy who is too fat to leave his bed...no...won't tell you who you lulzing losers...and basically lives off disability. A whole bunch of people in general on disability. Which is not a good way to live.

Like...fuck...am I getting this wrong, or is it seriously getting fucked up and Slavic Republic poor in parts of the US?
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Fanny Dinninglock - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 10:50:56 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.394085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394082
You're right, but I agree with the poster above that we have to tackle wealth inequality first. It's the greatest inequality, and the one that gives power to other forms.

However, I also think that demonising minority groups for their legitimate concerns is just as divisive as weaponising those concerns. The argument must be that social equality stems from wealth equality, and that we're all on the same side of poor vs rich.
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Fanny Fashfit - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:07:18 EST ID:XqOr0TAj No.394099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394078
You're ideas about leftist criticism of idpol are wrong. There are two camps to criticize: The "More female CEOs!" camp and the "We must we right this manifesto again so we aren't heightist" crowd.

In the center we have the "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" or "I only care about social issues" liberals who throw their entire weight into egalitarian struggles (which is fine) but then skip over poverty. Unfortunately the most significant trait the groups they support have in common is poverty. These liberals will always fail to address root causes of the injustices they fight because deny the intersectionality of class, race, and gender struggles. They fail to see that issues like homelessness are also an issue for black and lgbt communities. IMO this camp is THE issue because this camp has the most power and basically is the DNC.

The other camp gets a lot more flak than is necessary. They only exist in universities and on tumblr and have absolutely no real power because they are ineffectual and doomed to fail. The only danger they pose is in hijacking new leftist groups and miring them in drama and sending the group into a purity spiral.
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Fanny Fashfit - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:08:36 EST ID:XqOr0TAj No.394100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394099
>we right
Heh, *rewrite
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Molly Chillerwater - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 22:14:01 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.394105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394099

>has the most power
>DNC

sorry bub that mafia got busted.
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Reuben Segglechirk - Mon, 26 Jun 2017 18:55:16 EST ID:XqOr0TAj No.394118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394105
In comparison to the other camp? or were you thinking that I meant that in general? Because I meant they have far more political power than university purists. The DNC's power is waning to near nil and the complaints I stated are a significant reason.


Hypothetically by Albert Niddlewuck - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 21:24:09 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.394043 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If the Russians were actually successful in changing votes in the last presidential election and the government discovered this fact, would they tell the American people or would they decide they needed to keep it confidential to "preserve confidence in the integrity of the election process"?

The evidence is mounting to suggest they hacked into thousands of machines in practically every state and they hacked multiple aspects of the election infrastructure, including the software vendors who write the software used to tally votes. We know they altered voter data and accessed voter rolls and personal information of voters, but the government has maintained no actual votes were altered. I'm not sure we can believe them because the government lies when they think they have a great enough interest in preserving the public order. Imagine what would happen if they admitted that the Russians changed votes so that Trump won. It would be a constitutional crisis. Funny how all those polls were projecting huge wins for hillary and yet Trump magically sqeeezed by with just enough votes in key states he was several points behind in the polls in up until election day, sometimes steadily for months leading up to it. If the Russians changed the actual votes, I think it's very possible our government is lying to us about it in order to prevent an all out civil war.
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Fanny Dinninglock - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 09:47:36 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.394077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394075
>The facts are facts whether you choose to believe them or not.

Yeah, but you still have to actually present them. Fortunately for your argument another poster came along and did the work for you, but you can't just say "I don't need to show you the facts, because everyone knows and if you don't know ytou're dumb". That's the kind of smug complacency that landed us with fucking Trump.
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Wesley Narrybere - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:23:11 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.394088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394077

that other poster just regurgitated claims from a quick google-copy-paste. still no solid evidence. just faith and appeal to authority.
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John Brottingdit - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:54:51 EST ID:vCCS1XNB No.394092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394088
So, let me get this straight. If someone posts links that support your political side, it's "solid evidence". If someone posts links that support the other side, it's "faith an appeal to authority".

My question is, is you're so much of a coward that you can't even allow yourself to argue in good faith and you need to reinterpret the rules of debate ad-hoc to protect yourself from accepting the existence of opposing evidence... Then why are you even here at all? Shouldn't you be spending your time playing a game on easy mode with cheats, if this how sore a loser you are?

Just seems like an odd choice for someone with your particular personality deficiencies to spend their time, is all.
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Wesley Narrybere - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:58:53 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.394093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394092

>strawman

next.
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Martha Murdstone - Mon, 26 Jun 2017 00:24:01 EST ID:mmqZH+Ek No.394111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's done is done. This is all just bread and circus because Trump can't actually do anything because Congress doesn't want to back him because he is a retard that can't into politics.

This will be 4 years of luke warm nothingness coming from DC, just a bunch of hoo-blah on the TV.


"antifa vs free speech" portland edition by Ebenezer Morrybanks - Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:35:09 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.393223 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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tim pool is walking around live streaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4oI10Hj4AU

so far no action. it is portland though, so i doubt this is going to turn into an epic battle. everyone is well separated by the cops. not even any shouting just a bunch of hippies and commies standing around. he says it smells like vinegar and weed.
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John Brottingdit - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:46:27 EST ID:vCCS1XNB No.394089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394087
>not an argument, just catty name-calling
Man, for someone who keeps bringing it up when others do it you are really bad at this whole "not an argument" thing.
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Wesley Narrybere - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:50:32 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.394091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394089

he is so clearly delusional that i dont even need to break it down.
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Fanny Buzzwell - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 15:18:11 EST ID:WQQ+NOb5 No.394094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394086
Not sure what this has to do with neolibrals. The poor get fucked over no matter what.
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Barnaby Hammledale - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 15:51:10 EST ID:i1eo8CqX No.394097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394091
That comes across as awfully cowardly. It makes one wonder if your fear is that deep down you know that you can't break it down.
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Wesley Narrybere - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:05:17 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.394098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394097

then be blind to the obvious and wonder all night long.


You never go full we todd ed by Basil Nicklefoot - Sat, 17 Jun 2017 19:35:46 EST ID:u/EFfp/k No.393915 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So Missouri State Representative Mike Moon broadcast himself on facebook live beheading a chicken and pulling its heart out to get a point across about anti-abortion. The video is in the second link.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/missouri-lawmaker-abortion-bill-trnd/index.html
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article156419564.html

Personally I love the shift toward animal sacrifice and the potential for a simple slaughter to be interpreted as something /spooky/ or /tinfoill/ worthy, but it's definitely about politics so here we are. Also hail Satan.
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Fanny Dinninglock - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 10:06:39 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.394080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394079
Even aside from all that, who would force someone to live a life being raised by a parent who didn't want them and wasn't ready to care for them? In the case of a young single mother, you're setting up a child to become a sociopathic burden upon the rest of society and a young woman to have her life completely derailed. Having a baby ain't shit compared to raising one, it's not something to be taken on lightly and it's absolutely not something anyone should be forced into, for the sake of everyone involved.
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Graham Massleladge - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 10:48:33 EST ID:iYYYad4Q No.394083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394079
Fuck the whores who are too stupid to use birth control.
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Graham Massleladge - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 10:49:36 EST ID:iYYYad4Q No.394084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394083
Forgot to add that the fetus is more valuable than a slut who is too stupid to not get pregnant.

Nb
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John Brottingdit - Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:49:00 EST ID:vCCS1XNB No.394090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394084
Those sluts are more valuable than you, though. So it's a little odd for you to bringing this concept up.

They're probably not as edgy as you are, though, so you can always comfort yourself with that.
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Jarvis Hublingforth - Mon, 26 Jun 2017 23:34:42 EST ID:u/EFfp/k No.394123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394090
>not as edgy as you are

I don't know, man. Pregnant sluts register as a full blown obese black woman level of sass in my experience.


Trump and weed by Nicholas Geffingbig - Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:07:34 EST ID:UODWQ5BF No.393714 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Last thread about how the Trump administration would handle legal weed must have died. We ended on a cliffhanger where we all agreed one side would end up being right and one side would end up being wrong.

In today's news, they're preparing to move against it:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/13/jeff-sessions-personally-asked-congress-to-let-him-prosecute-medical-marijuana-providers/
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Wesley Drundlestin - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:03:22 EST ID:nppI2w1T No.394063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394061
>Saying that rapists can get into the USA via illegal immigration is not the same as saying every Mexican is a rapist
The alt-right are Nazi-shitfetishists.
Some of the alt-right, I assume, are good people.

Logically, these statements mean at least one alt-right is a good person and at least one alt-right is a nazi-shitfetishist.

In common language, nearly everyone will understand this to mean the speaker associates the alt-right with nazi-shitfetishists, believes that the alt-right tend to be nazis who enjoy being pooped on, and accepts, but is uncertain that any of the alt-right are good people.
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Albert Noffinghire - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:40:28 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.394065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394063

non relevant or funny at all.
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Phoebe Tootforth - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 20:47:49 EST ID:nppI2w1T No.394068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394065
Of course it's relevant, it illustrates how a statements (specifically Trump's) logical evaluation and the meaning nearly everyone listening infers can be very different.

Stop being obtuse, your comprehension cannot be that poor.
Even my illiterate five year old understands how you can replace parts of a statement with similar ones to better understand what that statement implies.
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Wesley Narrybere - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 20:51:20 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.394069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394068

nope. the only thing that matters is context and intent. remove that and you are talking irrelevant nonsense. deal with it.
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Phoebe Tootforth - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 21:11:40 EST ID:nppI2w1T No.394070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394069
Intent exists only in the head of the speaker. Maybe Trump intended to express his love of ketchup.

The relative implications anyone would understand from a statement formatted that way is the same in either context.
This is proven by the fact nearly everyone understood the statement to carry those implications.


Political youtubers? by Esther Gemmerhedge - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 09:58:57 EST ID:mtoAMITB No.393941 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So i know a whole bunch of right wing political youtubers but i cant seem to find any left wing youtubers, do you know of any and could help me out?

Looking to rebalance my political ideology. cheers.
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Archie Gorringbanks - Tue, 20 Jun 2017 07:55:41 EST ID:MQpXQ/h3 No.393961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Secular talk is pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/user/SecularTalk
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John Siddlekure - Tue, 20 Jun 2017 09:58:53 EST ID:HsGDoYnF No.393962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Unfortunately, if want to be an informed citizen in 2017 you still have to read. And even then it's no guarantee.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNvsIonJdJ5E4EXMa65VYpA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxFWzKZa74SyAqpJyVlG5Ew
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFJxE0l3cVYU4kHzi4qVEkw

But here are some people I like.
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Henry Hecklelock - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:33:14 EST ID:6Lc+yC0b No.393978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>393961
>>393948
>implying liberals are left-wing

OP, ask and you shall receive:
Mexie: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCepkun0sH16b-mqxBN22ogA
The Finnish Bolshevik: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCvdjsJtifsZoShjcAAHZpA
BadmouseProductions: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFEmOPY04flXH-QpMMAGeJA
anarchopac: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3FD64RRsrCLpiZNkq7ZkSg
Richard D. Wolff: https://www.youtube.com/user/RichardDWolff/videos
Based Commisar Dore: https://www.youtube.com/user/RichardDWolff/videos
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Polly Sublingham - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:06:56 EST ID:xUI4M0Uo No.393981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone who likes Chapo should check out District Sentinel Radio, same vibe but in the form of a daily news show: https://soundcloud.com/the-district-sentinel

>>393950
I just started listening to SIO, he's really good at picking stories apart and getting behind the strawmen. He's liberal, not left though. He likes to post memes about how we shoulda voted for Hillary.
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Doris Winkinbedge - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:24:49 EST ID:sg9KwOri No.393986 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>393978
You think that a die-hard Bernie supporter who is constantly shitting on Clinton and other corporate Democrats is "liberal, not left-wing"?


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