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A solution to Gerrymandering by Nathaniel Clazzlelock - Fri, 15 Dec 2017 10:32:39 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.399091 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The problem with allowing districts to be drawn by politicians is that politicians will draw districts which give their political party an advantage. To me the solution seems obvious, stop making representation tied to a specific geographic region and instead randomly assign people throughout the whole state to different "districts". In an age where everyone communicates electronically and travel is cheap and easy, there's really no need tor districts to be geographically localized. Politicians can hold town halls all over the state. In today's interconnected, standardized economy, the issues facing individuals are less geographically driven. Local politics can still be local, but for state-wide politics it makes no sense to say the people in one geographic region will all have certain interests unique to that geographic region. The way that districts are drawn and redrawn currently should certainly dispel that notion.

Now you can make it so that each household has the same district, or even expand it so that each neighborhood has the same district as long as the neighborhoods involved are small enough and equally distributed statistically and it would still solve the problem and allow family members and neighbors to talk to each other about the candidates running for election in their district.

What are the problems with this that I'm not seeing? Why hasn't this been implemented already?
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Ernest Sibblefuck - Fri, 15 Dec 2017 11:41:21 EST ID:8b+KEEa8 No.399092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399091The problem with allowing districts to be drawn by politicians is that politicians will draw districts which give their political party an advantage

Hurr durr you don't think???


Good Job Alabama by Oliver Gembletedging - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:11:27 EST ID:8b+KEEa8 No.399019 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Nice one!
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Graham Crarrylock - Thu, 14 Dec 2017 22:39:07 EST ID:SV87MEeX No.399081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Another angle is Alabama's one of three states in the US-of-A allowing felons and prisoners to vote. (Maine and Vermont.) Through legislation and winning lawsuits apparently, by The Ordinary Peoples Society headed by some Pastor.
>Over the last month, he registered 5,000 people in 22 jails and 10 prisons, he worked the streets, he ensured that absentee ballots were distributed, organized vans and carloads to get out to vote. When two guys didn’t have drivers’ licenses, he drove them back to the prisons they were caged in, got Xerox copies of their mug shots, and used those as “state-issued photo ID” at the polling station to cast their votes.

This statement by Project South, pretty Pastor-centric, continues...:
>LESSONS TO TAKE FROM THIS MOMENT:
"Leadership Development is required. Leadership development is not a one-time training but a multi-year, strategic support system that builds political leadership, organizational scope, and cross-issue, cross-community relationships that strengthen the whole [...] to work with LGBTQ communities, Latino immigrants, and all religious affiliations to build a stronger united front.
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Invest in long-term infrastructure. Social movement infrastructure is what prepares us for flashpoint moments like this and carries us through beyond the media blitz. Pastor Glasgow and TOPS will feed over 300 people two hot meals today, the day after the election, and for the next 100 days. TOPS will continue to register the over 200,000 eligible voters inside prisons and jails who can vote in the 2018 primaries and November midterms. [...]
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Free the airwaves. Communications infrastructure in the South exists through Black and community-owned radio stations, small town papers, and a digital presence that is a counter-strategy to the right-wing messaging that bombards our communities. TOPS LPFM radio station in Dothan, WKCG, was started a few years ago and reaches all of Houston County and beyond. [...]
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The ground is our power. These parties and candidates are not the focal point. How we build #SouthernPeoplesPower over the next year will not only be measured in election wins and losses but also in how we hold and gain ground for our people to exercise power on da…
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Jenny Blackford - Fri, 15 Dec 2017 00:03:05 EST ID:T8Cv5OCh No.399082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399078

Where did you get that picture from? I'd like to see more maps like the left one
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Jenny Blackford - Fri, 15 Dec 2017 00:15:58 EST ID:T8Cv5OCh No.399083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I live in a county in southern Alabama that voted 75% for Moore. The reason that many of the people voted for Moore is the fact that the whole child thing happened long ago. Accusations someone hasn't been found found guilty of shouldn't count against them. There were a lot of people with hard ons for moral character that looked past it out of some loyalty to the Christian association with the Republican party.

So, the pedophile with "drip drip drip" accusations was the way to go for them.

Here's a broader question: at what point do the accusations leveled against someone become too much?
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Nicholas Shittingfoot - Fri, 15 Dec 2017 00:30:54 EST ID:Onlk2tRe No.399084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>399083
>Here's a broader question: at what point do the accusations leveled against someone become too much?
When they're not corroborated by other sources or some sort of evidence.
One person saying shit with no physical evidence or special information, or even proof they were close to the person in question?
Could just be project veritas or someone looking to write a book.

A dozen women and a security guard?
Now you've got a pattern.
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lumpen !rGOAfuB3jA - Fri, 15 Dec 2017 10:25:48 EST ID:ktmbqmO1 No.399090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399079
The manner in which the Dems used the allegations was extremely similar to how Trump used the email scandal. Instead of jumping around from one outrage to another (of which Moore had countless), Dems and the media stuck with the sexual abuse the entire campaign.


"perfect political ideology" by Phoebe Singermedge - Fri, 15 Dec 2017 00:46:13 EST ID:T16ZzFdu No.399085 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is there such a thing? In a liberals viewpoint, they're the heroes and conservatives are the bad guys. In a conservatives viewpoint, its vice versa. Is anyone actually right? Is nobody right? I'm new to politics and I'd like to learn why there's always a conflict between the two things and what can be done, if anything, to alleviate said conflict. I'm very much a moderate and libertarian, if anything I'm probably center right.
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Jenny Blackford - Fri, 15 Dec 2017 01:19:59 EST ID:T8Cv5OCh No.399086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399085

There's no such thing as a perfect political ideology. Decisions should be made from an ethical, economical, demographic, and primarily realistic perspective. The job of a politician is to act for the best interest of their constituents, and binding themselves to a piece of driftwood like ideology prevents that.

The divides come in when you choose how to implement these ideas. Identify the ones that are most important to you and vote along those lines. Never read media sources from one side, look at international news sources as well as domestic news on the left and the right. Vote in every local election and don't be afraid of a ballot that is split between parties.
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Shitting Fummerlork - Fri, 15 Dec 2017 01:53:17 EST ID:q3Gx1WUh No.399087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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In america, political groups are extremely tribalistic with idpol. it needs a cleansing with marx-leninism.
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Charlotte Droblingsotch - Fri, 15 Dec 2017 10:00:22 EST ID:Vwoc9qnJ No.399088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
no such thing. difference of opinion created by different sets of understandings in turn caused by varying life experiences. only with politics this "difference of opinion" affects government/societal policy, meaning possibly drastic effects on people's lives, in some cases even life-threatening. and thus extreme levels of votriol and amger.
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Nathaniel Clazzlelock - Fri, 15 Dec 2017 10:14:16 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.399089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399085
It's pretty simple, if you have a few million dollars in the bank, vote republican, if not, vote democrat. Ideology is pretty much irrelevant because it's just used as a distraction to get people to support policy proposals. Pay attention to the laws that are actually being passed, look at what they are intended to do. 99.99% of the time, republican policy proposals are designed to help the rich and powerful at the expense of everyone else. The democrats actually put up a semblance of trying to pass policies that actually help the average person even if moderates in their ranks stop it from being a perfect solution. I honestly do not believe a single republican voter who is not a millionaire actually pays attention to or understands any of the laws that republicans pass. They just base their support on stupid social issues which are completely irrelevant because no one tries to legislate them, or if they do "try" to legislate them it's just a meaningless sideshow because the courts have already made a ruling on the subject and they know they're not going to be able to pass something that will actually become law.


Tax Bill by Albert Honeywill - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 10:31:53 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.398825 Report Reply Quick Reply
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Surprised there wasn't already a thread on this so let's discuss this absolute fucking travesty of a bill. Lining the pockets of the rich at the expense of the middle class and poor in the US while also adding over $1 TRILLION to the national debt.

So much for "fiscal conservatism" and "Responsible spending". This bill is nothing but a cash giveaway to the wealthiest people in the country and a big "FUCK YOU" to everyone else. I hope every bastard who voted in favor of this bill gets lynched in the street.
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Rebecca Shittingshaw - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 20:31:37 EST ID:k1T4yVqN No.398930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398910
The confederacy was about one, very specific "state right". It was always tacitly understood that every other "state right" could go fuck itself, it was only the one that was ever important.

They weren't exactly subtle about it, either.
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Basil Chommlestone - Sun, 10 Dec 2017 18:59:13 EST ID:6A2J7/xm No.398949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398903

You're right but the police state in America is so expensive even whites are at risk. Blacks make up this risk of murder or imprisonment even higher but the numbers are so high that hundreds of white people get murdered by police per year as well. Yet you see so many white Americans worshipping power. The culture of colonialism among people with ethnic euro backgrounds is traditionally due to assimilation into American nationalism. It's no coincidence that white Americans have a higher amount of bootlickers than people living in Europe. They'll complain about it going unoticed when "whites" are murdered by pigs, yet are so concerned with being law abiding and respectful that they wouldn't dare riot. If 7 Italians of Euro etcunicity in Italy got shot by police the country would be in flames, same for Ireland. It happens in America? Crickets. People act like it's some isolated occurrences not effecting people's daily lives outside of the news when I happen to know 2 people who were murdered by cops, people I went to school with. Almost everyone I've known has been arrested and jailed, white or black. Yet the whites seem "respectful" of police despite their history. It's pathetic and makes my stomach turn. Not to mention to see how they openly cheer on the murder of blacks, knowing how many of these people exist should make people's blood boil. There's no room for civility and respect for the lives of those who openly support racist murder. Fuck free speech am I right? The civil nationalists and alt right are the same scum.
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Shit Branningham - Sun, 10 Dec 2017 19:03:18 EST ID:6A2J7/xm No.398950 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398949

Basically what I mean is its not just the alt right saying shit like "glad the cops murdered this thug" "travyon was a thug" it's maga soccer moms, white liberals, patriots, yadda yadda yadda. They're all cheerleaders of a police state as far as I'm concerned and the only difference between them and the alt right is memes and symbolism.
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Phyllis Goodman - Thu, 14 Dec 2017 07:35:26 EST ID:cB61Xg61 No.399070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398916
You're right in that the Electoral College is the last relic of federalism, but an antiquated electoral system ≠ political autonomy. All the Electoral College system means is that Presidential candidates focus on campaigning in the swing states (especially bumfuck Iowa and New Hampshire, in the run-up to the primaries at least) rather than the population centers in New York, California, Texas.

Political autonomy of the states would be like, if the Electoral College were to actually convene as a single body so the state delegations could negotiate a President between them.
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Ian Pezzlesatch - Thu, 14 Dec 2017 15:42:52 EST ID:68d/q4Hr No.399076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
theres a local radio ad playing on all stations with a sympathetic womans voice spewing some propaganda about "our taxes put our workers and businesses at a disadvantage... this new tax plan blah blah blah" and i have to violently mash to a different station before i crash into oncoming traffic


How do we get through to conservatives? by Phineas Chidgelotch - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 14:21:48 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.398907 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been working on coming up with an answer to this question for years now but I'm still not any closer to an answer. How do you communicate with people so stupid and emotional? I've tried everything I can think of but in online interactions I've gotten nowhere. It's been extremely disheartening. Sometimes at my lowest moments I switch over into pure hatred and think the only solution is to kill them, but I know that's not really a solution. They're just being lied to, it's not their fault they're not smart enough to tell truth from lies.
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Ernest Creshfoot - Wed, 13 Dec 2017 21:46:10 EST ID:UyBqGNQJ No.399062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399060

I'm not advocating any of that. Some of its just unavoidable. Ferguson began with people being upset at the fact that someone was murdered as his body Sat in the hot sun for over 5 hours. People demanded answers, and we're handled heavily and refused answers. They became fed up, and the demo became even more rowdy. Tanks eventually occupied the neighborhood's and people began going all out. It was generally successful as the police lost all handle on the situation by being heavy handed off the bat. The media will always say people "fired first" even when rubber bullets get unleashed for being chanting in anger. Not many people bought this line in Ferguson cause the police even turned on the media. Ferguson was a crucial moment in history that completely destroyed the lefts allegiences to pacifism. In that sense it should be looked at as a successful rebellion.

As for prison resistance? A lot of prisons are already very violent places. If inmates are beginning to unite, become conscious, and engage in things as diverse as riots-hunger strikes I can't see how that's negative. It's better than the alternative in which prisons remain divided as the guards lay back and watch everyone squabble.


As for everything else, correct. Too many people lack strategy and just want to emotionally jump into situations that are nothing to joke about. How many times do people have to risk mass arrest and injury to counter nazi demonstrations? Some clearly are worth countering more than others, but people have to be willing to think of strategies that actually undermine oppression not just constantly being on the reactive to things they oppose. Imagine if the Irish resistance during the troubles ONLY held actions and demonstrations when loyalists were planning something? How successful do people expect to be holding signs behind hoards of riot police escorting the KKK or national socialists?
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Isabella Mashmack - Wed, 13 Dec 2017 21:55:22 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.399063 Report Quick Reply
>>399062

>How successful do people expect to be holding signs behind hoards of riot police escorting the KKK or national socialists?

That's a situation for hit-and run. Antifa in the US would wait for nazis to break from their groups before jumping them and putting the boots to them. They'd do the legwork to find out where they lived by following them and watching them. It's piss easy these days to do that with the internet. Don't rush them head on, hit them at their flanks, attack from a distance, make them scatter like the roaches they are.

>As for prison resistance?.....

I'm fully aware of how bad prisons are. But if you try to stick out there the pigs see you as a nail that needs a hammer and they will beat you down. They may not even touch you, they might get other prisoners to do it for them. If you want to change how prisons operate on the inside you need to start on the outside, apply pressure there first.
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Ernest Creshfoot - Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:27:48 EST ID:UyBqGNQJ No.399064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399063

Prison resistance has to be done carefully for this reason. It's not like anyone's hopping in and thinking "time to give the cos hell" I mean they are, but they aren't acting on it immediately unless the build up of oppression is that heavy. There's multiple collectives "gangs" as defined by the cos arising, work stoppages, and hunger strikes. The riots have literally occured in places where they were on the brink, left with no other options (see Holman prison). Even then in Holman when they did respond heavily a few guards even quit, saying the conditions were horrible and they weren't willing to risk their lives to enact those types of policies.

Without support on the outside, it would be easily suporessed though. For instance in greece prisoners can now study on actual campuses because anarchists went on united prison strikes. Their struggle was echoed on the outside with ferocity. Even basic shit like calling in to demand they answer the greivences of hunger striking people in prison can help, or noise demonstrations. You have groups like black cross, and iwoc (incarcerated workers committee) arising to bridge these things together. Even a few Aryans have denounced their ideas and said they share a common enemy with blacks against the prison society. Whether or not prison rebels get quietely repressed with brutality is up to every single on of us on the outside who gives a fuck. Even in history look at how intensely Bobby sands changed things from within prison because of how well and organized support on the outside was.
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Ernest Creshfoot - Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:35:04 EST ID:UyBqGNQJ No.399065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>399064

For more info on that, and updates, and general past news stories
https://incarceratedworkers.org


Another thing showing how actions around the world from prisons can echo and inspire people -

https://incarceratedworkers.org/news/prison-strike-sweeps-across-brazil
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Sophie Hunnerhure - Thu, 14 Dec 2017 00:24:43 EST ID:SV87MEeX No.399067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>399064 Every New Year's Eve there are noise solidarity demos outside of jails (and prisons?). To let them know they're not alone, among other reasons.

>>399045
>Small, bite-sized and easily digestible. That's the key to swaying Republicans who aren't slavering religious zealots.
Turning ideas into advertisements and slogans isn't meaningful discourse imho. Diluting the (attempted) political analysis of our shared reality diminishes the usefulness of it. Its gotta be grounded, practicable, and somewhat effective in moving from a problem to some sort of solution.

I think complicated analysis is good, but I also agree with you that talking that way is hindered by misunderstandings unless the person you're talking to has some background about what you're talking aboot.
>>399046
> People get convinced by concrete action and organizing, and they choose allegiences.
Yeah I agree, with a caveat that their actions are benificial and creative rather than destructive. Hence a focus on accomplishable actions to aid those in need. Solidarity Networks are libertarian (anti-authoritarian) and use bad publicity campaings to get a landlord or boss to capitulate to specific grievances by the worker or renter who the campaign is for. Shit like that and homeless and prison solidarity networks helping people accomplish meaningful change. It shouldn't even be for the posterity of publicity or whatever.

There's also (and should be) networks to respond to disasters, learning from the past responses in Florida, Texas, Puerto Rico, and Louisiana.

... Check out the essay "Do-It-Yourself Strategies for Revolutionary Study Groups": https://anarchiststudies.org/2015/11/22/perspectives-n-27/


Fake News as Propaganda tools? by Jed123 - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:44:14 EST ID:hQGAr5kZ No.398643 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I think fake news are more than shitposting nowadays:

https://hubpages.com/politics/How-Fake-News-will-Ruin-Society
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Cornelius Pimmergold - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 00:06:01 EST ID:i+8mSKdH No.398648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398643
Well yeah, that's what tinfoil is about too. Someone can't take effective action to improve their self and the world if their basis of knowledge is bullshit. Disinfo acts like dissonance on social media and in the real world, encouraging more lines to be drawn in the sand over different beliefs, and limiting the spread of public epiphanies by the information and people people pay attention to.
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Fucking Pittridge - Fri, 24 Nov 2017 13:58:51 EST ID:QgFx41fX No.398718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fake news have been a part of human society for much longer than we'd expect. After print became common every retard just shat out flyers with stupid lies and dumb people ate them up. We had maybe 150 years of journalism that tried to uncover dark plans and corruption until they became corrupted enough to write whatever the rich scum is telling them.
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Ian Conkinbanks - Tue, 28 Nov 2017 06:41:44 EST ID:X2CGnXaI No.398771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's tremendous.
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Nell Memmerville - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 19:05:42 EST ID:kZUMXybj No.398923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398718
This. You should really automatically distrust the media, but that doesn't mean we can't find an adequate enough foundation for social critique. Not all information is poisoned, and there are ways to determine the veracity or trustworthiness of information, like critical thinking skills.
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Matilda Murdridge - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:24:15 EST ID:q3Gx1WUh No.398979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398718
"fake news" was simply called satire and tabloids until "muh daddy don don" yapped on about how truth-based satire was basically the WHOLE truth about him.


Rape by Rebecca Ginderstock - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 10:30:23 EST ID:ko30oXn2 No.398824 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Tons of rape allegations up in the air right now.
Most of which, however, are entirely he-said she-said, and no sort of evidence is being put forward in most of these cases.

What do we do? What should we do?
Roy Moore’s accusers are accusing him of a crime he may have committed 40 years ago, how on earth do we try to hold a legitimate court session about this? A 40-year-Old crime? With no evidence other than statements? In an innocent-until-proven-guilty-beyond-reasonable-doubt system?
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Eliza Drovingwerk - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:32:19 EST ID:NmweLP+h No.399014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399013
CNN, AL.com, Wapo & AP have all called jones the winner. the fact that it's this close is scary though...
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Charles Peckleham - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:35:32 EST ID:PrJHLMRG No.399015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399012
crisis averted, mate.
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Shitting Cimbledock - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:49:23 EST ID:B3fHzfKj No.399016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399013
Seems like Jones is gonna win!
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Emma Chesslewell - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:02:28 EST ID:ojOXFT8u No.399017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Holy fucking shitting dick nipples on pussy rockets!

Alabama just elected a Dem over a guy who jerks it to psalms.

Fucking hell....maybe 2017 wasn't all shit....
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Hugh Shittingway - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:09:03 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.399018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It looks like my pessimism was unfounded for once. Alabama actually elected a democrat. Let us all celebrate because this means the Republican margin for error in the Senate has just been cut in half. Now they actually have to keep the promises they made to Collins if they want to pass the tax plan.


Do we live in a world full of jackboots? by Lillian Fepperkitch - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 11:44:42 EST ID:ol/qboFC No.398966 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Or are there an equal amount of anti-authoritarians? Another question,seeing this global trend, is a sort of global civil war brewing? in which factions/states and anti-authortarian types are fighting amongst one another rather than just nations themselves? It seems like a real possibility in places like Greece, imagine if golden dawn had more power? In America, this clash already has bodies,and the fbi has declared anti-fascists potential domestic terrorists while saying theyre engaging in a mini-arms race with opponents. How do you guys imagine this will pan out, and how would it differ in different regions? Imagine another attack as successful as 9/11 or widespread rioting under trump/pence? Is it likely martial law would be instilled? would it be the straw that broke the camels back?

On another tip, it seems to me, besides the mechanisms of the state, and it's physical manifestations there is a generally overwhelming "want" for authority among so many people. You hear it day to day, people replicate the systems of control in their own personal beliefs and desires.

I know the alt-right from the future have raids and have completely taking over the youtubes, but thats mostly an American trend, and I see the growth of authoritarianism all over the international internet.

for instance,Duterte wants to increase martial law for a year -

>>SHUT UP BALL HEAD--- MINDANAO STILL VOLATILE ISLAND.. LAW AND ORDER IS NEEDED. YOU BALL HEAD HAS A BACKWARD BRAIN.. ANOTHER DESTROYER OF THE REPUBLIC. ALL OF YOU IN MANILA DO NOT LIKE LAW AND ORDER IN MINDANAO WHILE IN MINDANAO PEOPLE ARE MORE SAFER THAN CRIMINALS. SHUT UP.. MILITARY HAS TO PROTECT THE REPUBLIC..PERIOD.

>>yap that is fine extension of Martial law,,ano ba naman kung kontra sila dyan. Ignored them if they could keep peace in Mindanao then stop it martial law. Tourism there in Mindanao would grow and help their people

>>what are you talking about ,you dont know us,we the people from mindanao likes the martial law because we feel safe and thats what we want .Who are you say something like that ,you dont know ,how we feel ,youre not from our place ,you can say whatever you want but you dont make sense ,we support our president and the military ,so butt off

>>anyone who not like our brave leader is parasite. send all drug dealer junkie all send them must be put into their grave a great cleanse for strong nation death to communism death to islam
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Frederick Blasslebet - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 06:53:09 EST ID:Vwoc9qnJ No.398991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398969
>Antifa is not being investigated by any anti terror policing organizations
wrong.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antifa-domestic-terrorists-us-security-agencies-homeland-security-fbi-a7927881.html
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/01/fbi-probe-antifa-ideology-underway-wray-tells-house-panel.html&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjxrr3Js4TYAhWLwYMKHZOjBr0QFggOMAE&usg=AOvVaw0oTV5u012u4p02X9hA8kg4
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fbi-investigating-people-animated-by-antifa-ideology/article/2642174&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjxrr3Js4TYAhWLwYMKHZOjBr0QFggUMAM&usg=AOvVaw1TFdIqKJCCWgX3cnEjADMr
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Frederick Blasslebet - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 07:15:14 EST ID:Vwoc9qnJ No.398992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
to add...

so why do we focus so much on left-wing extremists again? they only make up a small fraction of terrorist incidents. right-wing extremism is a way more pressing then, on par with islamic terrorists.

https://apps.revealnews.org/homegrown-terror/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-s-sees-300-violent-attacks-inspired-far-right-every-year
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Eliza Sillyham - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 07:56:14 EST ID:pBCW0uX3 No.398993 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398992

Then of course there's operation Pandora in Spain ordered by the high Court which involved police raids against suspected anarchists in an "on going terror operation".

Even places where anarchists are definitely engaged in violence, it pales in comparison to the violence of the far right and police. America is rarely one of those places. America hasn't had an "urban guerilla" movement since the panthers and AIM which were in the 70s. Of course the right wing militias won't be touched as heavily, even when having clashes with feds. Southern Europe on the other hand has active anarchist "guerillas". It just shows how badly the American state fears any resistance in the future- they target peaceful activists as if they were potential guerillas.

It's all expected though. The state could give two fucks about people who are against their mechanisms of control being murdered by fascist terror groups. The state historically coexists and works with fascists and paramilitaries to maintain control, not to mention private armies. Look at the death squads in Latin America. Or how about the ulyster defence in Belfast who burnt homes and reigned down on Irish resistance. Sure some of their members faced arrest but it was a political move and kid gloves compared to how suspected members of the IRA were treated.
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Henry Bligglespear - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:46:56 EST ID:XqOr0TAj No.399007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398992
Compare Dillon Roof shooting up a church of African Americans to James Hodgkinson shooting at active congressmen.
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Edward Hoddlekid - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:24:28 EST ID:q3Gx1WUh No.399011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398992


What do people REALLY mean when they say "Globalists"? by Angus Tootway - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 09:19:38 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.397506 Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've seen the word popping up more and more in certain circles and I have a feeling like it is being misused. What exactly is this word supposed to allude to?
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Basil Snodstone - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:04:06 EST ID:r1lyVCfk No.398995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398984
>Alex Jones explains the technocratic bubble cities that are being built to create a reeducation environment for future mind-controlled and genetically altered generations.
been a while since i actually bothered watching an alex jones video but holy fuck, how does anyone take this seriously? with like zero sources/evidence to back up anything he's saying... it's fucking mind boggling.
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Eliza Sillyham - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 09:00:43 EST ID:pBCW0uX3 No.398996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398995

Yet if someone brings up some actual talking points with issues around the world, back it with sources and solid historic understanding "they're George Soros antifa Marxist shills who need to be sent to FEMA camps for weaponzing Islam".
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lumpen !rGOAfuB3jA - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 13:44:41 EST ID:ktmbqmO1 No.399000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398990
I don't know I've seen Infowars bumper stickers on some beat ass pickups.

>>398995
My favorite part is where he was saying Trump had discovered the plan and apparently bitch-slapped the entire illuminati until they stopped. And now the world is at peace. When I thought 'globalists', Infowars was the first thing that came to mind. Took me a whole 15 seconds of reading headlines to find that vid. It is funny to know for being as prominent a Trump shill as he was, Jones is still as batshit as he was a decade ago.
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Martha Hennergold - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 14:19:34 EST ID:ojOXFT8u No.399001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399000
Only now Jones has the ear of the president. That is extremely frightening.
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:50:58 EST ID:wwSF8zav No.399004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398994
Yes.


New Intifada brewing? by Samuel Cheblinghall - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 18:55:44 EST ID:TLKEQYNG No.398883 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hamas, Hezbollah, and PFLP are openly calling for a third intifada
http://pflp.ps/english/2017/12/06/pflp-our-struggle-not-trump-will-decide-the-fate-of-jerusalem/
http://reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1E11BR

Abbas doesn't even seem to be trying to diffuse the situation much
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/mahmoud-abbas-lambasts-trump-decision-jerusalem-171206184655902.html

Israel is reportedly already shelling into Gaza.
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 03:14:15 EST ID:+AzbGQB/ No.398900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well certainly the embassy move has exposed the "peace process" for what it is, a total sham. There is no negotiating with your settler terrorizers when they are backed by the economic and military power of the US empire. For decades the state of Israel needed only to pay lip-service to the "peace process" and continue with business as usual. Despite universal condemnation they faced no consequences as a client state of the United States.
The Kelly-McMaster-Mattis junta could not have failed to realize this move would fan the flames of resistance. I believe they are hoping to consolidate Israeli state power and strike a decisive blow to the resistance axis after the crushing defeat that US/Israeli proxies ISIS and al-Qaeda suffered in Syria.
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lumpen !rGOAfuB3jA - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:52:26 EST ID:ktmbqmO1 No.398981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fatah's leadership is really pissed at this. They're threatening to pull out of the Oslo accords and they refused to receive Pence on his next middle-east trip. Abbas is in Egypt right now, likely asking for weapons. Fatah is usually the de-escalation faction but if they're not backing down the Palestinians might actually be ready for another war.


Nazis vs Muslims: America’s 2 biggest fears by Fuck Grandwater - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 10:16:29 EST ID:rRPL6vy8 No.398747 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I want to address a common theme I see everywhere I go; liberals openly despise Nazis and Neo-Nazis are the basis of their current major fears, while conservatives openly despise Muslims and see them as a greater current threat than Neo-Nazis/Nazis. I would say the current way liberals act toward Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists is exactly how conservatives wish they could act towards Muslims (ruining their rallies, denouncing their reps in the government, even just punching them in the face in the streets for supporting the ideology they support).

Which is worse? Which should we really fear more? Realistically, what should we do about both groups? Discuss please. Facts and statistics would also be great. Like if you’re going to say ‘I’m afraid of Neo Nazis’ or ‘I’m afraid of Muslims’ I’d really like it if you provided the statistics that back up your fears.
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John Bingernodge - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 14:38:09 EST ID:G8GaFYL0 No.398878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398875

Never saw a sharp pick a random fight and try to justify it as a political act, and if they did it wasn't random. People have a hard time aconolwedging revolutionary individuals are by nature on some thug shit. What you think the black panthers did to informants? The same thing as the Mafia. Does this mean they were literally a Maoist version of la cosa nostra? No you fucking cry babies.
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John Bingernodge - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 14:39:23 EST ID:G8GaFYL0 No.398879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398878

Sharp is way less violent than anti fascists even pre ww2 who literally kneecapped people for advocating nationalism.
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Doris Bunhall - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 09:23:58 EST ID:NtsAMKUO No.398892 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Which should we really fear more?
Fear those who can acquire political power where you live. Terrorism kills less people than bathtubs and is only really psychological warfare. A lynching or and exploding snackbar are both tragedies but are ultimately only seriously damaging to a people if the fear of them causes self harm (think patriot act and needless wars).
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Phoebe Guddleway - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 17:10:53 EST ID:kZUMXybj No.398914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The number of Americans killed by Muslims pales in comparison to the number of Muslims killed by Americans. Any right-winger who wants to talk about the dangers of sharia and how Mohammed in 600 AD had sex with a 12 year old should probably also be raising their voices about Roy Moore right now, but the most Islamophobic individuals on the right (Steve Bannon, for example) seem to be the most adamantly behind him.

Anyway, even at the height of the Bush administration, the United States was never supposed to be at war with "Islam", only the insurgent elements preventing lasting peace in post-invasion Iraq. President Bush's comment that the United States's War on Terror was a "crusade", though, didn't help things at all. But still, Bush also claimed that Islam really is a "religion of peace" and that the terrorists we were fighting were simply extremists, not representative of Islam as a whole.

The latent Islamophobia of the Bush administration, deliberately stoked by GOP officials through their propaganda outlets (Fox News, and later Breitbart), is now out in the open, and Trump doesn't shy away from implying that all Muslims are savages, backwards, etc., to bolster the fear that propelled him to power. The golem of Islamophobia is now out of the control of the Very Serious People who brought it to life to prepare the world for the War on Terror.
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Charlotte Sallercocke - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 23:46:51 EST ID:X+/0eFML No.398983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yall pussy


The Weaknesses of Knife Laws by Basil Turveyshit - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 06:53:56 EST ID:IEPvhilv No.398904 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Knife laws, they are not helping!

https://hubpages.com/politics/The-Weaknesses-of-Knife-Laws
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Caroline Brookman - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 09:29:23 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.398905 Report Quick Reply
>>398904

Have you ever thought that maybe the weapons aren't the issue, that maybe mental illness, extremist ideologies and socioeconomic hardship is more to blame for violent crime than access to sharp, pointy things or guns? Just a thought.
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Phineas Chidgelotch - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 09:38:55 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.398906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398904
Wow, those statistics showing a 10% increase in total crime for one year really convinced me that this didn't have any impact on knife-related crimes.

Come back when you have actual statistics. All research on weapons bans has shown that they statistically reduce the amount of crimes that involve the banned weapons.
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Hannah Gillernore - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 19:13:12 EST ID:q3Gx1WUh No.398926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398904
>knives

*laughs in 2nd amendment
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Eliza Fanridge - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 19:21:15 EST ID:+hcAajAB No.398927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
knew a dude who caught a concealed weapon charge because he had an avocado in his backpack for his lunch and went to a protest with a tiny knife to open it. he was an idiot to pack it, but it was even stupider that he was charged for it.
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Shit Sushridge - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:02:09 EST ID:NmweLP+h No.398965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398905
>the issue
they're not the singular issue, but are certainly the most significant part of the issue.


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