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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

deep philosophical post

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- Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:08:12 EST qeOwblsq No.209749
File: 1566065292043.jpg -(332206B / 324.42KB, 1412x412) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. deep philosophical post
What is our purpose?
Where do we come from?
Where are we going?
What is truth?
What is free will?
Is there life after death?
Are we alone in the universe?
Is there a god watching us or do we watch ourselves?
What's keeping us alive?
The will to create?
The inspiration to build?
To teach your son right from wrong?

Introducing the Honda Ferrari only from Ford.
This has been a fucking car advertisement the entire time.
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Isabella Ponkinterk - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:08:53 EST 7hg9eMBL No.209750 Reply
>>209749
>What is our purpose?
buy honda
>Where do we come from?
Japan
>Where are we going?
as long as in honda, doesn't matter
>What is truth?
honda CRV
>What is free will?
honda fit
>Is there life after death?
honda is life honda is eternal
>Are we alone in the universe?
honda always with us
>Is there a god watching us or do we watch ourselves?
honda
>What's keeping us alive?
>The will to create?
>The inspiration to build?
>To teach your son right from wrong?

Need help finding a philosophy quote / author.

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:10:24 EST t7Sn0YSu No.209747
File: 1565989824747.jpg -(56572B / 55.25KB, 425x450) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Need help finding a philosophy quote / author.
Hello /pss/,

It's been a while since I've posed here, but I really need help tracking down a quote and author. It's such a poignant quote which is quite relevant in our current political climate.

Unfortunately, I don't remember the exact text or the author, but here is a paraphrase of the quote:

"The surest way to rally people around some noble cause is the promise of being able to mistreat someone without consequences - the most satisfying of sadistic delights."

I've been tearing my hair out trying to nail down the real quote but I just can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about here?
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Isabella Ponkinterk - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:10:55 EST 7hg9eMBL No.209751 Reply
>>209747
I've heard similar quotes before, although I can't remember the specific author. That one though is relatively recent, and was said by a guy named Oliver Cemblewell.

Internet

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- Tue, 09 Jul 2019 21:53:47 EST G9E83KJu No.209719
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Where will social media and the internet be in 10 -20 years?
My guess is we will all be wired into the net, where we cannot tell between online and the real world - constant virtual reality.
We will adapt a hive mind and all consciousness will become one
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George Cobberwater - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 00:02:29 EST 8aXtgW/P No.209746 Reply
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Lol I forgot the pic cause I'm high and drunk at the same time
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Graham Blythespear - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:41:32 EST nQTynWUg No.209748 Reply
>>209719

We can't really tell the difference between the online world and real live already.

The fusion of it and VR/Augmented reality or even worse direct to brain interface will be a social catastrophe. You heard it here first folks.

Infinity

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- Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:14:35 EST 2HazwbDc No.209524
File: 1540520075608.png -(148592B / 145.11KB, 1003x915) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Infinity
When you think of infinity do you think of a loop, or do you think of an endless unbounded happening, like pi, for example.
If things are, as they seem, infinite(i suppose thats an assumption) do you think it loops back into itself or stretches on forever.

Pic unrelated, but we should probably start a revolution pretty soon.
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Phyllis Deblingsark - Fri, 01 Mar 2019 15:50:10 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209614 Reply
>>209612
>> It would suck if time actually looped.
If time proceeds infinitely, then it must also loop infinitely. Since time is just a description of the changes of space, and the number of possible transformations a space can experience is finite (since space is quantized and the speed of light limits the volume of particles which can interact in the lifetime of the universe) then given infinite time, space will experience identical transformations of its space (loops) an infinite number of times during that duration (for a mathematical analogy, consider that any random sequence of numbers, of arbitrary length, appears an infinite number of times in the remainder of pi, but always with different numbers and amounts of numbers between.)
But since time is a measurement of transformations of space, and even with infinite time we see that all transformations and sequences of transformations recur, has time actually progressed at all? If it is only a measurement of change, and in the final count no change occurs (or all changes that happen eventually undo themselves; the sum of the calculation is always zero) then is time really measuring anything at all, or is it more a perceptual illusion, a way for the finite to try to interface with infinity?

My point being to suggest that saying time flows in an infinite line and saying it flows in an infinite loop both result in the same conclusion, that time does not flow at all; a paradox.
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Jack Wepperson - Wed, 01 May 2019 04:02:47 EST agUXn1jU No.209666 Reply
>>209524
An endless unbound happening caught in loop within a loop of itslelf cancelling saod loop but creating a mirrored loop of itself bound by time. ie infinite symbol

historical accuracy of Foucault

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- Tue, 11 Jun 2019 23:38:07 EST u+iaeV9p No.209689
File: 1560310687254.jpg -(94684B / 92.46KB, 385x640) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. historical accuracy of Foucault
There is absolutely no historical evidence for what he's saying in this book and the overwhelming consensus of historians is the exact opposite of what he proposes. What am I missing here? Discipline and Punish and the History of Sexuality are relatively sound both philosophically and historically and the underlying arguments he's making in this book are reasonable. Where did he get his understanding of history for this? Did he just not really care and that's the point or what?
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Matilda Ginderpadging - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:44:50 EST LwxsxyPf No.209723 Reply
>>209689
>What am I missing here?
it's about the development of institutions which confine the 'other' and seperate him from the rest of society. The importance of Foucaults work is more in the methodology. Just google it I guess.
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Augustus Blythelock - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 02:04:35 EST vI2KG7aE No.209743 Reply
>>209689
Foucault was right about mental illness but was a giant fedora tipper

Americans hate everything besides cars

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- Mon, 28 May 2018 13:04:17 EST AwbVlekG No.209223
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Why are Americans so convinced that mass transit is a conspiracy?
If anything, there’s a pretty plain conspiracy to fund cars over every other mode of transportation.
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Augustus Dissledock - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 21:53:42 EST nQTynWUg No.209715 Reply
Aren't most American cities designed with cars in mind, while European cities were already established before the car got invented?
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Edward Guddlenog - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 01:40:26 EST JyDTI0YA No.209722 Reply
>>209715
Most major American cities were established before the car too. Public transit services in American cities were by and large on par with their European equivalents up until WW2. Post-war policy changes plus the influence of the automobile lobby encouraged city planners to go on a spree of highway building, neighborhood demolitions, and road widening programs that radically altered the landscape of American cities, in addition to cutting funding for public transit systems outside of ultra dense cities like New York. This continued unabated until the 1970s freeway revolts. Most of America's major infrastructure still dates from that era, which is why crumbling infrastructure is such a potent topic (and a difficult one for policy makers to handle due to the massive cost associated with infrastructure redevelopment) today.
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Augustus Blythelock - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 02:01:14 EST vI2KG7aE No.209742 Reply
>>209223
I hate cars and I live here. Maybe I'm salty because I never had my drivers license

public (pseudo)intellectuals

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- Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:07:37 EST I6irGQRy No.209678
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anyone else really fucking hate this guy? also what is it with 3rd rate psychologists suddenly becoming revered as these gurus because they tell basement dwellers basic fucking common sense wrapped up in these political messages that are exactly what they want to hear?
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Augustus Blythelock - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 01:59:56 EST vI2KG7aE No.209741 Reply
He despises Hegel so I despise him

Materialism

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- Tue, 30 Jul 2019 19:17:30 EST nQTynWUg No.209728
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Is death the end, /pss/?

Is there something shining beneath the skin of the material world, or are we bound to our skeletons as if we're prisoners?
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Lydia Goodway - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 00:37:07 EST Pr3KJWoH No.209735 Reply
i don't think the conscious mind is able to conceive of not existing. except perhaps when full """ego death""" (i dont really like that term due to its associations) occurs either through years of meditation or heavy drug use (temporary),

so whether or not there is anything beyond death, we are using a limited computer, our brain, which i think inherently presumes it will always exist as a consciousness and gets an error message when asked to contemplate non-existence. this doesn't disprove there is life after death, but is a constraint on our ability to draw any real conclusions.
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Charlotte Brangerwug - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 09:07:08 EST DMUEGBzG No.209737 Reply
>>209735
>i don't think the conscious mind is able to conceive of not existing.
I think you're right. But the question is does that matter? Is not existing even a thing? I know your point is that if not existing is a thing then we can't imagine it and it's natural to be skeptical about what you're saying. But also not existing could just be nothing. If our mind doesn't exist do we?

If you believe
>I think therefore I am
Then if your conscious mind does not exist you don't. I mean even if we are just what the universe is doing at this time and place, when the wave breaks it's not a wave any more. The energy has gone and so has the water and there is nothing.

If the conscious mind does not exist we do not. When we try to conceive not existing we get nothing because for our mind it is nothing.

Favorite Philosophers?

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- Fri, 01 Mar 2019 14:52:39 EST KGYHppHw No.209613
File: 1551469959744.jpg -(288762B / 281.99KB, 1600x1067) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Favorite Philosophers?
Tough question i suppose.

Don't have a favorite myself, but i really like Max Cafard and his expansion of the Situationist's concept of psychological exploration called a Derive, into Surregional Exploration. His other essays skirting many philosophers and critiquing them was a nice introduction to all of these concepts I was ignorant of at the time.

Anyways, what's your favorite philosophy or philosopher?
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Graham Gevingsat - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 09:56:33 EST NrnzfFOx No.209716 Reply
nietzsche is the only real answer here
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Barnaby Blunnershaw - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 21:54:15 EST DK1GZlb6 No.209717 Reply
Camus all the way bitch.
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Archie Gockleford - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 06:43:52 EST 5y5Cpc7D No.209732 Reply
>>209613
Ken Wilbur, among others. He's not a great philosopher, but his concepts gave me somewhere to go from bleak existentialism. I felt like I knew a little more about the shape of the world; it gave me some meaning to work with.

I truly hate to ask,

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- Fri, 08 Mar 2019 19:32:45 EST 24rhF4zL No.209617
File: 1552091565098.jpg -(121108B / 118.27KB, 800x530) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I truly hate to ask,
but what is the difference between a whistleblower and a snitch?
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Phoebe Drottingfoot - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 17:39:29 EST Pr3KJWoH No.209721 Reply
>>209720

i disagree. you could whistleblow privately, like reporting unethical stuff to an official.

snitching is when you were in on it then betray your criminal companions

whistleblowing is when you discover bad things and tell on them
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Caroline Duckleshaw - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 06:12:38 EST qum7+esS No.209726 Reply
Snitches are ratting out the people to the government. Whistleblowers are ratting out the government (or some big corporation) to the people. It has to do with power. If you're snitching to someone with more power about someone with less power, you're a snitch, but if you're shining light on the secret mechanisms of power in government or finance or something that negatively affects the general people who are subject to that power, you're a whistleblower.
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Thomas Mommerhatch - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 06:40:03 EST 25i6jWYd No.209727 Reply
>>209726
This is a pretty good definition. Though I feel like snitching also involves a level of "it doesn't really hurt anyone but you told them anyway". You witness a murder or report being robbed you're not a snitch. You report some guy selling drugs or a medical professionally ending the life of a terminal patient who wants to die will only be able to suffer for a few hours/days/weeks if they don't, you are snitching. Though I guess the murderer might disagree but in the big picture...

Snitch has negative connotations. Also if someone is doing something that hurts others, they were previously the ones with more power using it to hurt others. Then are you both? I know the police and government have a sinister side (of variable depth) but they have their uses and using those to protect yourself and others doesn't make you a shit.

Smoked, went to the dentist and discovered it is more likely a god exists than not

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- Tue, 14 May 2019 05:44:19 EST IjqeBpm5 No.209671
File: 1557827059677.jpg -(15822B / 15.45KB, 512x613) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Smoked, went to the dentist and discovered it is more likely a god exists than not
There are an infinite number of universes that have formed out of nothingness, existed, and collapsed in on themselves. We might be living in one.

There are also an infinite number of universes in which the lifeforms or meta-lifeforms that evolve in them over an infinite amount of time become at last able to create their own universes.

What sort of world these new gods would create is unknowable. However, we could imagine that there might be some number which create a universe similar to their own, rather than one entirely different.

Those who create a universe similar to their own reinforce the "evolutionary strength" of their universe. Those who do not, erase it.

By closely mirroring the successful conditions that led to them ascending to godhood themselves, the new gods make it more likely that their own universe will itself eventually create its own god-spawn.

And these god-spawn will, of course, create their own universes, and some of them will further reinforce the already-successful model, spawning yet more new gods.

Therefore, the likelihood that we are living in an "evolutionarily successful" universe, which eventually leads to the stage of evolution of its lifeforms ascending to godhood, is strong.

The likelihood that it was formed out of nothingness is small, but possible. The same goes for it being created according to rules that will not result in the ascension to godhood, as these universes would spawn no "children," and be the final descendants of that series of universes.

We can conclude that it is likely a god exists. What is the nature of that god? It's unknowable. Whether it's a guy monitoring a universe server farm, a bearded old man throwing lightning and interfering with the lifeforms, or a transcendental and indifferent All, we probably have no way to know. But it is exceedingly likely that the god exists.
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Emma Gummleshaw - Mon, 20 May 2019 16:10:28 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209676 Reply
>>209675
Agreed except for the thing about heat death. Check out my post about time in the infinity thread for a longer discussion of this idea, >>209614
but from a physics standpoint, if we assume the big bang emerged from a random quantum fluctuation in a larger domain (as is the prevailing theory if you want to keep from going into m-brane/p-brane stuff) then you don't actually need any energy to create a universe, just an extremely vast (non-)amount of nothing for an extremely long period of (non-)time. A heat-dead universe provides exactly those conditions.
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Eliza Mongerkad - Thu, 30 May 2019 17:12:01 EST zsQIZH1z No.209677 Reply
>>209671
This is basically the same as the "We're probably living in a simulation" argument.

The Hood Science

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- Mon, 10 Jun 2019 02:55:52 EST jnVpm8WV No.209686
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of protecting children. So, I want the kids in my hood to not be like me so much or at least not in a way that pisses off their parents or gets them in jail. I also have to be Jesse from fullhouse to my nephews and Mr Rogers to the kids in my building as well as my authentic self. How do I simultaneously encapsulate a positive role model as well as be the scumbag that I am in a way that doesn't make me feel like I am plastering on this fake smile and a completely fake person all the time, but also in a way that doesn't make me an easy target for disingenuous social workers trying to take me down for my alternative lifestyle?
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Beatrice Bluckledock - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:14:09 EST Pr3KJWoH No.209692 Reply
drink, smoke, and do drugs in privacy. try to be intoxicated in privacy or in adult-only zones. be nice and as sober as you can around kids. there are gray areas but start with that

BWP Bump While Philosophizing

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- Tue, 14 May 2019 21:54:25 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209673
File: 1557885265331.jpg -(114270B / 111.59KB, 1100x618) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. BWP Bump While Philosophizing
Thought /pss/, slow as it is, might do well with a more general 'I was thinking/reading about this philosophy thing today' thread. We might get more content if people didn't feel so constrained to staying within a single topic, or had a place for discussions that don't quite warrant a whole topic of their own. Like all BW* threads, only bamp if you're philosophizing, no dumbposting. It would be p cool if we just kept bumping with new, different topics and maybe brief discussion instead of getting snarled into our traditional mires for all saying that will do

Hey, so to start off, I was browsing other boards and seeing shitty posts and thinking about the Santayana 'Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it' concept in terms of game theory. I think its reasonable to say that, because history is a collective process, it only requires a certain percentage of the population to not remember history for it to repeat. I looked for like a minute for some scholarly treatment of this concept viz game theory but couldn't find anything, so I wonder if it's really true even in the case of a simulation and what the actual percentage range might be?
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Lydia Goodlock - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 19:15:29 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209683 Reply
>>209681
>>Tell the kids they can't watch TV and open a history book
Yeah, but who wrote the history book? I don't think the problem of teaching history to future generations is as much in the media it is conveyed by but what information is available and taken seriously, and what sort of critical thinking capacity the general public has. I mean, there's probably some dude out there who won't let his kids watch TV because it's full of 'liberal lies about race mixing' and gives his kids the Turner Diaries to read before bed.
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Thomas Dubblelock - Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:00:52 EST dj+OKlwT No.209685 Reply
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>>209673
Considering whether many people listen to specialists who have access to this knowledge or preserve it through practice, people may be destined to repeat past mistakes or reinvent the wheel.

Maybe there is a certain collective unconscious threshold. What of latent or inherited knowledge? I don't know.

Between just a couple generations presently it seems like alot of useful wisdom and knowledge was lost. If certain specialists who keep certain fires going are valued by society then alot will continue to be known and utilized despite a majority of people who aren't knowledgeable about what-have-you. An institution with a public relations focus that translates technical jargon into layman's terms helps.

That essay comparing a most pit to the kinetics of gaseous particles and a study of human collective behavior defined two types of participants, one being active and subject to replicating the behavior of others nearby, the second being passive and "not subject to the flicking motions or random forces." Anyways, I wonder if knowledge could be modeled similarly to trace certain informations spread from person to person. It's interesting how (or if) a crowd reaches critical mass. https://youtu.be/hO8MwBZl-Vc most people are certainly the core and spirit of the show and have a significant effect on the crowd as whole despite their participation or not in the moshpit.

Meditation

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- Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:45:31 EST /XQxUE3u No.204775
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Hey guys I'm just starting to learn how to meditate. So far I can go up to 3 minutes and after that I can't focus any longer. But, I'd say I'm starting off good.

How many of you here meditate on a daily basis? In what way does it help you? What is your favorite type of meditation?

I'm learning sleep meditation and zen. I want to broaden my horizons and love myself again. With this meditation I hope to achieve a higher level of being and be able to like myself and have a positive outlook on life.
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Sophie Pimbleforth - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 13:25:32 EST TJmYkEMT No.209660 Reply
>>209652
i did a 10 vipassana course/ silent retreat at the beginning of this month. I was very skeptical before and still feel quite skeptical at times but I am feeling more and more open to it's positive effects, I just don't really think it really is so revolutionary. I feel like a more constant mindfulness is in some ways more positive... but I also realise these are just feelings you can let go of. In the end what does it really matter?
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Beatrice Dipperson - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 13:40:02 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209661 Reply
>>209660
>> In the end what does it really matter?
The alternative is always available, being ruled by your passions and at the whim of the flow of your thoughts. Indeed, most people don't even think of that as being a problem, which is why so few have interest in meditation. But it actually matters quite a lot if you care about those things and the effects they can have on your life.
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Shitting Clashfuck - Mon, 13 May 2019 07:55:29 EST P0o8ahaw No.209670 Reply
>>209661
My negative thoughts back then always controlled me and my life. But, now it doesn't. I can let the negative thoughts come and go and not let it affect me anymore like they did back then. Ever since I started meditating again I feel like I am in control of my life for the first time in literally a decade. I meditate everyday now and it has taught me many things about myself and life. I havent felt so confident in myself and so positive in a long time.

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