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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

business discussion

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- Sat, 30 Jun 2018 23:49:10 EST Wdy2/dMQ No.209301
File: 1530416950031.jpg -(101732B / 99.35KB, 1200x800) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. business discussion
hey guys me and a few friends from uni investment class have created an anonchat group to discuss capitalism, investing and business in general where we share knowledge amonst ourselves.

if you are a serious capitalist and can repay the insights you get, you will be welcome. no idiots allowed though.

we are more interested in value investing and real business stuff, plebs who like technical analysis, derivative blockchain shit and dropshipping will be mocked.



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Eugene Brubbernane - Tue, 04 Sep 2018 11:36:04 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209438 Reply
>>209427
>>One guy samefagging is proof of my group's dominance
Achievable goals, fam.
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Nathaniel Choddleworth - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 17:07:09 EST Mo4+Pk2G No.209776 Reply
>>209301
Investing in (real) silver coins is almost always profitable.
Fortune 500 companies as business partners 12 years down the line.

Americans hate everything besides cars

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- Mon, 28 May 2018 13:04:17 EST AwbVlekG No.209223
File: 1527527057350.jpg -(100681B / 98.32KB, 648x920) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Americans hate everything besides cars
Why are Americans so convinced that mass transit is a conspiracy?
If anything, there’s a pretty plain conspiracy to fund cars over every other mode of transportation.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 02:11:19 EST /G/Hwlm8 No.209770 Reply
>>209769
No. States without insane restrictive building regulations, don't have that problem.
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Nathaniel Choddleworth - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 17:01:57 EST Mo4+Pk2G No.209775 Reply
>>209223

Maybe because train cars were used as extermination cars in Nazi Germany?

Moishe Postone on 9/11

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- Wed, 11 Sep 2019 10:34:32 EST Ne/RgC0w No.209771
File: 1568212472530.png -(96076B / 93.82KB, 550x259) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Moishe Postone on 9/11
The common attitude towards 9/11 is as follows: the terrorist attack was a result of US foreign policy. Implicit in this position, is that the United States is the only force that possesses agency—it is the only force that acts. Other forces merely react. This is a racist position that denies people in the periphery possess agency. It is also a myopic position, because it fails to see the reactionary Islamist mission of groups like al-Qaeda, who very much have their own vision of what the good society would look like.

https://platypus1917.org/wp-content/uploads/readings/postonemoishe_historyhelplessness.pdf
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Hannah Pecklebitch - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 10:39:10 EST Ne/RgC0w No.209772 Reply
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>>209771
"There is one thing we have to confront before we go any further – the political nature of what is known as religious fundamentalism. The stunning attacks of 911 are being assigned to religious fanaticism, an “islamic fundamentalism” that represents all that is backward to the West. Ironically, both sides, both the u.s. empire and the insurgent pan-islamic rightists, prefer to call their movement a religious one. To the contrary, nothing about capitalism’s “first World War of the 21st century” can be understood that way. Think it over. A supranational political underground of educated men, organized into cells with sophisticated illegal documents and funding, who are multilingual and travel across the world to learn how to fly passenger jet airliners and then use them as guided missiles, is nothing but political. And modern. Pan-islamic fascism pressing home their war on a global battlefield.

The small but growing white fascist bands here in the u.s. picked up on this immediately. They had political brethren in the Muslim world. Politics is thicker than blood. “Anyone who’s willing to drive a plane into a building to kill Jews is alright by me”, said Billy Roper of the National Alliance, the largest white fascist group here. David Michael of the neo-fascist British National Party (which received several hundred thousand votes in the last local elections), was jubilant: “Today was a glorious day. May there be many others like it.” ((These quotes were posted on fascist internet sites. Full texts in: M. Edwards. “Reports From the Homeland Front”. In ARA Research Bulletin #2. Fall 2001. Chicago. p.6 )) As one New Afrikan revolutionary always reminds people: “Like is drawn to like.” ((Atiba Shanna. SWEEPING THE NOTEBOOKS 2: “Grains”. Informal document: n.p., n.d. )) Not race and not religion but class politics."
https://kersplebedeb.com/posts/the-shock-of-recognition/
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Betsy Dreckleman - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 00:15:14 EST ljNLqsHS No.209773 Reply
>>209771

> Implicit in this position, is that the United States is the only force that possesses agency—it is the only force that acts.

Isn't this a strawman?

people with "magic thinking"

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- Mon, 02 Sep 2019 11:20:45 EST U+CRTLPX No.209767
File: 1567437645997.gif -(3837933B / 3.66MB, 202x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. people with "magic thinking"
Ages ago I heard about a study or book about a large part of the population who have a somewhat "magical" way of thinking and how those are the people most likely to support dogmas and refuse to educate themselves on things. Anybody can help me out with that?

Need help finding a philosophy quote / author.

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:10:24 EST t7Sn0YSu No.209747
File: 1565989824747.jpg -(56572B / 55.25KB, 425x450) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Need help finding a philosophy quote / author.
Hello /pss/,

It's been a while since I've posed here, but I really need help tracking down a quote and author. It's such a poignant quote which is quite relevant in our current political climate.

Unfortunately, I don't remember the exact text or the author, but here is a paraphrase of the quote:

"The surest way to rally people around some noble cause is the promise of being able to mistreat someone without consequences - the most satisfying of sadistic delights."

I've been tearing my hair out trying to nail down the real quote but I just can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about here?
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Isabella Ponkinterk - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:10:55 EST 7hg9eMBL No.209751 Reply
>>209747
I've heard similar quotes before, although I can't remember the specific author. That one though is relatively recent, and was said by a guy named Oliver Cemblewell.
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Polly Wannerfen - Fri, 30 Aug 2019 00:09:23 EST NAcNncXr No.209763 Reply
>>209751
>>209747
Sounds a lot like an Orwell, likely an anti-fascist/anti-communist from the earlier part of the twentieth century. Hannah Arendt wrote a decent scholarly work on the matter called Origins of Totalitarianism.
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Barnaby Siblingforth - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 14:06:11 EST fGw07qTD No.209766 Reply
Hannah was a jew and involved with a known Nazi, Heidegger. seems like even if she hated totalitarianism she sure loved fucking totalitarians. Orwell was a hypocrite too.

public (pseudo)intellectuals

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- Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:07:37 EST I6irGQRy No.209678
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anyone else really fucking hate this guy? also what is it with 3rd rate psychologists suddenly becoming revered as these gurus because they tell basement dwellers basic fucking common sense wrapped up in these political messages that are exactly what they want to hear?
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Polly Wannerfen - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:27:15 EST NAcNncXr No.209762 Reply
>>209741
o jeez is he one of those 'consciousness doesnt real/ consciousness is a construct/ your emotions are just feelings' guy?
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Nathaniel Brookwell - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 02:46:50 EST vI2KG7aE No.209764 Reply
>>209762
more of a scientism absolutist. I'd take Feyerabend over him anyday, and I'm far from an anarchist.

deep philosophical post

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- Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:08:12 EST qeOwblsq No.209749
File: 1566065292043.jpg -(332206B / 324.42KB, 1412x412) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. deep philosophical post
What is our purpose?
Where do we come from?
Where are we going?
What is truth?
What is free will?
Is there life after death?
Are we alone in the universe?
Is there a god watching us or do we watch ourselves?
What's keeping us alive?
The will to create?
The inspiration to build?
To teach your son right from wrong?

Introducing the Honda Ferrari only from Ford.
This has been a fucking car advertisement the entire time.
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Isabella Ponkinterk - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:08:53 EST 7hg9eMBL No.209750 Reply
>>209749
>What is our purpose?
buy honda
>Where do we come from?
Japan
>Where are we going?
as long as in honda, doesn't matter
>What is truth?
honda CRV
>What is free will?
honda fit
>Is there life after death?
honda is life honda is eternal
>Are we alone in the universe?
honda always with us
>Is there a god watching us or do we watch ourselves?
honda
>What's keeping us alive?
>The will to create?
>The inspiration to build?
>To teach your son right from wrong?
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Angus Geblingkadge - Tue, 27 Aug 2019 13:54:16 EST q0xYff5h No.209759 Reply
>>209749
>Is there a god watching us or do we watch ourselves?

Why not ask God?

Matt 7:7
“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

Meditation

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- Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:45:31 EST /XQxUE3u No.204775
File: 1453218331804.jpg -(552057B / 539.12KB, 1920x1200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Meditation
Hey guys I'm just starting to learn how to meditate. So far I can go up to 3 minutes and after that I can't focus any longer. But, I'd say I'm starting off good.

How many of you here meditate on a daily basis? In what way does it help you? What is your favorite type of meditation?

I'm learning sleep meditation and zen. I want to broaden my horizons and love myself again. With this meditation I hope to achieve a higher level of being and be able to like myself and have a positive outlook on life.
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Shitting Clashfuck - Mon, 13 May 2019 07:55:29 EST P0o8ahaw No.209670 Reply
>>209661
My negative thoughts back then always controlled me and my life. But, now it doesn't. I can let the negative thoughts come and go and not let it affect me anymore like they did back then. Ever since I started meditating again I feel like I am in control of my life for the first time in literally a decade. I meditate everyday now and it has taught me many things about myself and life. I havent felt so confident in myself and so positive in a long time.
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Molly Turveystone - Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:15:32 EST HeAoXRT7 No.209757 Reply
Starting my meditation regimen today. I haven't meditated seriously in 3 years. Taking it up again. I remember all the benefits meditating everyday gave me without fail. I was so consistent that i was beginning to change as a person. I dont know why I quit doing it. But, I will be meditating every morning as of today.

Does anyone here meditate too? Would love to hear about your experiences.
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Simon Fuffinghall - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:39:19 EST HeAoXRT7 No.209758 Reply
Meditating for 2 days. I feel more grounded and I don't let things get to me like I use to let it. My minds getting clear and clearer.

Been able to visualize already and it's of my physique and also at a park that I love to go. Some.girl in a bikini was walking towards me when I visualized being at the park. Crazy stuff.

The more I do the better the benefits.

Abstract discussion thread

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- Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:01:21 EST QfvuJGLY No.209398
File: 1531375281147.png -(422798B / 412.89KB, 1440x2692) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Abstract discussion thread
My brain is the same as your brain except for the fact that your brain functions entirely unlike mine even though assuming we both fit the parameters for having a "normally" formed brain and posses a healthy neural structure that is supposed to control certain aspects of our psychology and physiology in the same matter.
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Fucking Webbersat - Sun, 23 Sep 2018 04:56:59 EST gwPZwf6j No.209454 Reply
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It's about inhibition and stimulation of neurons firing. Long term potentiation, different neurotransmitters and what have you. I've only got a schoolboy understanding of it.

>>209402
I think thinking in categories is useful, I'm not sure what alternatives there are to that.... like a thought resembling a hypercomplex geometry (if that's what it can be called) because it never has context or appropriation to anything else, just summarily everything in such a way that there is never intersection between anything and no parallels because new things that are analogous to (but always changeable whenever an issue of context or relation to anything else arises, such as) matrix dimensions, number theories and logic/non-logic maxims are created to avoid any kind of abstraction, inductions, deductions or ordinate comparisons to take place.
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William Fendlemore - Sun, 23 Sep 2018 20:35:19 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209455 Reply
>>209454
>>I'm not sure what alternatives there are to that
Of course, because your mind operates using the concept of categories, the fish cannot see the water. It may be unavoidable for human minds, or it may be unavoidable for minds in general, to utilize categories. Really, they are an expansion of the concept of sets. But what is dangerous is assuming that the categories are real or are things in and of themselves. Almost all of the debates of early philosophy can be stemmed to a confusion about whether or not the categories exist or are real in themselves.

But in the same way that set theory demonstrates no set of axioms can completely describe itself, when we realize the categories are sets, we realize they can't actually be the thing they themselves purport to be; the defining rule encompassing all types of a thing. They are the mirages of the mental landscape, and I think society would be better off if we learned to treat them as such.

Internet

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- Tue, 09 Jul 2019 21:53:47 EST G9E83KJu No.209719
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Where will social media and the internet be in 10 -20 years?
My guess is we will all be wired into the net, where we cannot tell between online and the real world - constant virtual reality.
We will adapt a hive mind and all consciousness will become one
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George Cobberwater - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 00:02:29 EST 8aXtgW/P No.209746 Reply
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Lol I forgot the pic cause I'm high and drunk at the same time
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Graham Blythespear - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:41:32 EST nQTynWUg No.209748 Reply
>>209719

We can't really tell the difference between the online world and real live already.

The fusion of it and VR/Augmented reality or even worse direct to brain interface will be a social catastrophe. You heard it here first folks.

Infinity

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- Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:14:35 EST 2HazwbDc No.209524
File: 1540520075608.png -(148592B / 145.11KB, 1003x915) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Infinity
When you think of infinity do you think of a loop, or do you think of an endless unbounded happening, like pi, for example.
If things are, as they seem, infinite(i suppose thats an assumption) do you think it loops back into itself or stretches on forever.

Pic unrelated, but we should probably start a revolution pretty soon.
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Phyllis Deblingsark - Fri, 01 Mar 2019 15:50:10 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209614 Reply
>>209612
>> It would suck if time actually looped.
If time proceeds infinitely, then it must also loop infinitely. Since time is just a description of the changes of space, and the number of possible transformations a space can experience is finite (since space is quantized and the speed of light limits the volume of particles which can interact in the lifetime of the universe) then given infinite time, space will experience identical transformations of its space (loops) an infinite number of times during that duration (for a mathematical analogy, consider that any random sequence of numbers, of arbitrary length, appears an infinite number of times in the remainder of pi, but always with different numbers and amounts of numbers between.)
But since time is a measurement of transformations of space, and even with infinite time we see that all transformations and sequences of transformations recur, has time actually progressed at all? If it is only a measurement of change, and in the final count no change occurs (or all changes that happen eventually undo themselves; the sum of the calculation is always zero) then is time really measuring anything at all, or is it more a perceptual illusion, a way for the finite to try to interface with infinity?

My point being to suggest that saying time flows in an infinite line and saying it flows in an infinite loop both result in the same conclusion, that time does not flow at all; a paradox.
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Jack Wepperson - Wed, 01 May 2019 04:02:47 EST agUXn1jU No.209666 Reply
>>209524
An endless unbound happening caught in loop within a loop of itslelf cancelling saod loop but creating a mirrored loop of itself bound by time. ie infinite symbol

historical accuracy of Foucault

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- Tue, 11 Jun 2019 23:38:07 EST u+iaeV9p No.209689
File: 1560310687254.jpg -(94684B / 92.46KB, 385x640) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. historical accuracy of Foucault
There is absolutely no historical evidence for what he's saying in this book and the overwhelming consensus of historians is the exact opposite of what he proposes. What am I missing here? Discipline and Punish and the History of Sexuality are relatively sound both philosophically and historically and the underlying arguments he's making in this book are reasonable. Where did he get his understanding of history for this? Did he just not really care and that's the point or what?
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Matilda Ginderpadging - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:44:50 EST LwxsxyPf No.209723 Reply
>>209689
>What am I missing here?
it's about the development of institutions which confine the 'other' and seperate him from the rest of society. The importance of Foucaults work is more in the methodology. Just google it I guess.
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Augustus Blythelock - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 02:04:35 EST vI2KG7aE No.209743 Reply
>>209689
Foucault was right about mental illness but was a giant fedora tipper

Materialism

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- Tue, 30 Jul 2019 19:17:30 EST nQTynWUg No.209728
File: 1564528650563.jpg -(39778B / 38.85KB, 284x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Materialism
Is death the end, /pss/?

Is there something shining beneath the skin of the material world, or are we bound to our skeletons as if we're prisoners?
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Lydia Goodway - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 00:37:07 EST Pr3KJWoH No.209735 Reply
i don't think the conscious mind is able to conceive of not existing. except perhaps when full """ego death""" (i dont really like that term due to its associations) occurs either through years of meditation or heavy drug use (temporary),

so whether or not there is anything beyond death, we are using a limited computer, our brain, which i think inherently presumes it will always exist as a consciousness and gets an error message when asked to contemplate non-existence. this doesn't disprove there is life after death, but is a constraint on our ability to draw any real conclusions.
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Charlotte Brangerwug - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 09:07:08 EST DMUEGBzG No.209737 Reply
>>209735
>i don't think the conscious mind is able to conceive of not existing.
I think you're right. But the question is does that matter? Is not existing even a thing? I know your point is that if not existing is a thing then we can't imagine it and it's natural to be skeptical about what you're saying. But also not existing could just be nothing. If our mind doesn't exist do we?

If you believe
>I think therefore I am
Then if your conscious mind does not exist you don't. I mean even if we are just what the universe is doing at this time and place, when the wave breaks it's not a wave any more. The energy has gone and so has the water and there is nothing.

If the conscious mind does not exist we do not. When we try to conceive not existing we get nothing because for our mind it is nothing.

Favorite Philosophers?

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- Fri, 01 Mar 2019 14:52:39 EST KGYHppHw No.209613
File: 1551469959744.jpg -(288762B / 281.99KB, 1600x1067) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Favorite Philosophers?
Tough question i suppose.

Don't have a favorite myself, but i really like Max Cafard and his expansion of the Situationist's concept of psychological exploration called a Derive, into Surregional Exploration. His other essays skirting many philosophers and critiquing them was a nice introduction to all of these concepts I was ignorant of at the time.

Anyways, what's your favorite philosophy or philosopher?
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Graham Gevingsat - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 09:56:33 EST NrnzfFOx No.209716 Reply
nietzsche is the only real answer here
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Barnaby Blunnershaw - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 21:54:15 EST DK1GZlb6 No.209717 Reply
Camus all the way bitch.
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Archie Gockleford - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 06:43:52 EST 5y5Cpc7D No.209732 Reply
>>209613
Ken Wilbur, among others. He's not a great philosopher, but his concepts gave me somewhere to go from bleak existentialism. I felt like I knew a little more about the shape of the world; it gave me some meaning to work with.

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