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Favorite Philosophers?

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- Fri, 01 Mar 2019 14:52:39 EST KGYHppHw No.209613
File: 1551469959744.jpg -(288762B / 281.99KB, 1600x1067) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Favorite Philosophers?
Tough question i suppose.

Don't have a favorite myself, but i really like Max Cafard and his expansion of the Situationist's concept of psychological exploration called a Derive, into Surregional Exploration. His other essays skirting many philosophers and critiquing them was a nice introduction to all of these concepts I was ignorant of at the time.

Anyways, what's your favorite philosophy or philosopher?
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Barnaby Blunnershaw - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 21:54:15 EST DK1GZlb6 No.209717 Reply
Camus all the way bitch.
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Archie Gockleford - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 06:43:52 EST 5y5Cpc7D No.209732 Reply
>>209613
Ken Wilbur, among others. He's not a great philosopher, but his concepts gave me somewhere to go from bleak existentialism. I felt like I knew a little more about the shape of the world; it gave me some meaning to work with.
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Barnaby Wiblingfark - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 02:16:35 EST hcOExBer No.209803 Reply
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Considering all the answers here, how does anyone distinguish between these philosophers. Like some metric to meaningfully compare and contrast by?

Infinity

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- Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:14:35 EST 2HazwbDc No.209524
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When you think of infinity do you think of a loop, or do you think of an endless unbounded happening, like pi, for example.
If things are, as they seem, infinite(i suppose thats an assumption) do you think it loops back into itself or stretches on forever.

Pic unrelated, but we should probably start a revolution pretty soon.
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Jack Wepperson - Wed, 01 May 2019 04:02:47 EST agUXn1jU No.209666 Reply
>>209524
An endless unbound happening caught in loop within a loop of itslelf cancelling saod loop but creating a mirrored loop of itself bound by time. ie infinite symbol
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Barnaby Wiblingfark - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 02:09:22 EST hcOExBer No.209802 Reply
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>>209524
Infinity could be thought of as cycles rather than on repeat, mayhaps.

Questions involving time get confusing. I enjoyed the sci-fi rendition in Last Legends of Earth as a way of imagining how time works. And the other iterations.

deep philosophical post

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- Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:08:12 EST qeOwblsq No.209749
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What is our purpose?
Where do we come from?
Where are we going?
What is truth?
What is free will?
Is there life after death?
Are we alone in the universe?
Is there a god watching us or do we watch ourselves?
What's keeping us alive?
The will to create?
The inspiration to build?
To teach your son right from wrong?

Introducing the Honda Ferrari only from Ford.
This has been a fucking car advertisement the entire time.
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Nicholas Surringtotch - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 22:33:03 EST 8gq7GAVV No.209783 Reply
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>What is our purpose?
Quit that shit, you fucking dumb cunt.

Purpose doesn't exist and purpose is idiotic.

The universe IS. That's all. Deal with it.
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Betsy Lightson - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 04:01:02 EST hcOExBer No.209791 Reply
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>>209783
From a social, where/how do i relate to people, society, the world, and the cosmos, there's a symbolic importance.

Stirner on labor

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- Wed, 02 May 2018 09:41:48 EST EQAAY6X6 No.209163
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Stirner knows literally nothing about labor or laborers. His ideas are juvenile. He thinks laborers are more powerful than businessmen/entrepreneurs. He’s wrong. The two are essentially equal in power, because the one cannot exist without the other. People like Stirner grossly under-estimate the intelligence of the entrepreneur and grossly over-estimate the simplicity of the laborer. I been in labor my entire life; seen tons of guys spend even 25 years straight happily laboring for good pay, because they’re simple and conservative and are much more focused on getting paid and going home to their families than becoming some sort of businessman or critical-thinker. These conservative family-oriented laborers are literally our backbone, and they always require leaders to guide them.
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Angus Hazzlewill - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 07:31:07 EST nh1fspOE No.209785 Reply
>>209176
Fuck off. I'm a laborer because it's the work I have available to me, with an able body and no tertiary education. But you're a fucking bullshitter if you think of us as some otherized "simple folk". Fucking get the fuck out of here. What the fuck gives you the authority to lord over us anyway, other than an economic and political system built on privilege and injustice? Where a man can build ten houses for richer people yet not afford to buy his own? Where rich kids afford to send their kids off to rich schools to get rich jobs and inherit rich money, while we start from dirt each generation?
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Angus Hazzlewill - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 07:39:03 EST nh1fspOE No.209786 Reply
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Wait a second, fuck, I'm drunkenly yelling at ghosts. These posts I'm replying to are all over a year old. What the fuck I come back after ten years and 420chan is.. dead?
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Rebecca Semmerstock - Mon, 30 Sep 2019 18:16:24 EST hcOExBer No.209787 Reply
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>>209786
Nah, just some of these academic boards move real slow now. Your posts are interesting though so thanks for 2cents. I wholeheartedly agree from theory and experience. Especially when a new boss is hired from outside and they don't know anything. Or how bosses just stand around and talk to each other while us laborers are working hard and their making way more money then we are even though we're the ones doing all the work. OP was probably just trolling anyways.

business discussion

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- Sat, 30 Jun 2018 23:49:10 EST Wdy2/dMQ No.209301
File: 1530416950031.jpg -(101732B / 99.35KB, 1200x800) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. business discussion
hey guys me and a few friends from uni investment class have created an anonchat group to discuss capitalism, investing and business in general where we share knowledge amonst ourselves.

if you are a serious capitalist and can repay the insights you get, you will be welcome. no idiots allowed though.

we are more interested in value investing and real business stuff, plebs who like technical analysis, derivative blockchain shit and dropshipping will be mocked.



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Eugene Brubbernane - Tue, 04 Sep 2018 11:36:04 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209438 Reply
>>209427
>>One guy samefagging is proof of my group's dominance
Achievable goals, fam.
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Nathaniel Choddleworth - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 17:07:09 EST Mo4+Pk2G No.209776 Reply
>>209301
Investing in (real) silver coins is almost always profitable.
Fortune 500 companies as business partners 12 years down the line.

Americans hate everything besides cars

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- Mon, 28 May 2018 13:04:17 EST AwbVlekG No.209223
File: 1527527057350.jpg -(100681B / 98.32KB, 648x920) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Americans hate everything besides cars
Why are Americans so convinced that mass transit is a conspiracy?
If anything, there’s a pretty plain conspiracy to fund cars over every other mode of transportation.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 07 Sep 2019 02:11:19 EST /G/Hwlm8 No.209770 Reply
>>209769
No. States without insane restrictive building regulations, don't have that problem.
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Nathaniel Choddleworth - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 17:01:57 EST Mo4+Pk2G No.209775 Reply
>>209223

Maybe because train cars were used as extermination cars in Nazi Germany?

Need help finding a philosophy quote / author.

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:10:24 EST t7Sn0YSu No.209747
File: 1565989824747.jpg -(56572B / 55.25KB, 425x450) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Need help finding a philosophy quote / author.
Hello /pss/,

It's been a while since I've posed here, but I really need help tracking down a quote and author. It's such a poignant quote which is quite relevant in our current political climate.

Unfortunately, I don't remember the exact text or the author, but here is a paraphrase of the quote:

"The surest way to rally people around some noble cause is the promise of being able to mistreat someone without consequences - the most satisfying of sadistic delights."

I've been tearing my hair out trying to nail down the real quote but I just can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about here?
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Isabella Ponkinterk - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:10:55 EST 7hg9eMBL No.209751 Reply
>>209747
I've heard similar quotes before, although I can't remember the specific author. That one though is relatively recent, and was said by a guy named Oliver Cemblewell.
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Polly Wannerfen - Fri, 30 Aug 2019 00:09:23 EST NAcNncXr No.209763 Reply
>>209751
>>209747
Sounds a lot like an Orwell, likely an anti-fascist/anti-communist from the earlier part of the twentieth century. Hannah Arendt wrote a decent scholarly work on the matter called Origins of Totalitarianism.
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Barnaby Siblingforth - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 14:06:11 EST fGw07qTD No.209766 Reply
Hannah was a jew and involved with a known Nazi, Heidegger. seems like even if she hated totalitarianism she sure loved fucking totalitarians. Orwell was a hypocrite too.

Abstract discussion thread

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- Thu, 12 Jul 2018 02:01:21 EST QfvuJGLY No.209398
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My brain is the same as your brain except for the fact that your brain functions entirely unlike mine even though assuming we both fit the parameters for having a "normally" formed brain and posses a healthy neural structure that is supposed to control certain aspects of our psychology and physiology in the same matter.
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Fucking Webbersat - Sun, 23 Sep 2018 04:56:59 EST gwPZwf6j No.209454 Reply
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It's about inhibition and stimulation of neurons firing. Long term potentiation, different neurotransmitters and what have you. I've only got a schoolboy understanding of it.

>>209402
I think thinking in categories is useful, I'm not sure what alternatives there are to that.... like a thought resembling a hypercomplex geometry (if that's what it can be called) because it never has context or appropriation to anything else, just summarily everything in such a way that there is never intersection between anything and no parallels because new things that are analogous to (but always changeable whenever an issue of context or relation to anything else arises, such as) matrix dimensions, number theories and logic/non-logic maxims are created to avoid any kind of abstraction, inductions, deductions or ordinate comparisons to take place.
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William Fendlemore - Sun, 23 Sep 2018 20:35:19 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209455 Reply
>>209454
>>I'm not sure what alternatives there are to that
Of course, because your mind operates using the concept of categories, the fish cannot see the water. It may be unavoidable for human minds, or it may be unavoidable for minds in general, to utilize categories. Really, they are an expansion of the concept of sets. But what is dangerous is assuming that the categories are real or are things in and of themselves. Almost all of the debates of early philosophy can be stemmed to a confusion about whether or not the categories exist or are real in themselves.

But in the same way that set theory demonstrates no set of axioms can completely describe itself, when we realize the categories are sets, we realize they can't actually be the thing they themselves purport to be; the defining rule encompassing all types of a thing. They are the mirages of the mental landscape, and I think society would be better off if we learned to treat them as such.

historical accuracy of Foucault

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- Tue, 11 Jun 2019 23:38:07 EST u+iaeV9p No.209689
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There is absolutely no historical evidence for what he's saying in this book and the overwhelming consensus of historians is the exact opposite of what he proposes. What am I missing here? Discipline and Punish and the History of Sexuality are relatively sound both philosophically and historically and the underlying arguments he's making in this book are reasonable. Where did he get his understanding of history for this? Did he just not really care and that's the point or what?
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Matilda Ginderpadging - Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:44:50 EST LwxsxyPf No.209723 Reply
>>209689
>What am I missing here?
it's about the development of institutions which confine the 'other' and seperate him from the rest of society. The importance of Foucaults work is more in the methodology. Just google it I guess.
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Augustus Blythelock - Wed, 14 Aug 2019 02:04:35 EST vI2KG7aE No.209743 Reply
>>209689
Foucault was right about mental illness but was a giant fedora tipper

Materialism

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- Tue, 30 Jul 2019 19:17:30 EST nQTynWUg No.209728
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Is death the end, /pss/?

Is there something shining beneath the skin of the material world, or are we bound to our skeletons as if we're prisoners?
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Lydia Goodway - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 00:37:07 EST Pr3KJWoH No.209735 Reply
i don't think the conscious mind is able to conceive of not existing. except perhaps when full """ego death""" (i dont really like that term due to its associations) occurs either through years of meditation or heavy drug use (temporary),

so whether or not there is anything beyond death, we are using a limited computer, our brain, which i think inherently presumes it will always exist as a consciousness and gets an error message when asked to contemplate non-existence. this doesn't disprove there is life after death, but is a constraint on our ability to draw any real conclusions.
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Charlotte Brangerwug - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 09:07:08 EST DMUEGBzG No.209737 Reply
>>209735
>i don't think the conscious mind is able to conceive of not existing.
I think you're right. But the question is does that matter? Is not existing even a thing? I know your point is that if not existing is a thing then we can't imagine it and it's natural to be skeptical about what you're saying. But also not existing could just be nothing. If our mind doesn't exist do we?

If you believe
>I think therefore I am
Then if your conscious mind does not exist you don't. I mean even if we are just what the universe is doing at this time and place, when the wave breaks it's not a wave any more. The energy has gone and so has the water and there is nothing.

If the conscious mind does not exist we do not. When we try to conceive not existing we get nothing because for our mind it is nothing.

I truly hate to ask,

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- Fri, 08 Mar 2019 19:32:45 EST 24rhF4zL No.209617
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but what is the difference between a whistleblower and a snitch?
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Phoebe Drottingfoot - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 17:39:29 EST Pr3KJWoH No.209721 Reply
>>209720

i disagree. you could whistleblow privately, like reporting unethical stuff to an official.

snitching is when you were in on it then betray your criminal companions

whistleblowing is when you discover bad things and tell on them
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Caroline Duckleshaw - Sat, 27 Jul 2019 06:12:38 EST qum7+esS No.209726 Reply
Snitches are ratting out the people to the government. Whistleblowers are ratting out the government (or some big corporation) to the people. It has to do with power. If you're snitching to someone with more power about someone with less power, you're a snitch, but if you're shining light on the secret mechanisms of power in government or finance or something that negatively affects the general people who are subject to that power, you're a whistleblower.
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Thomas Mommerhatch - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 06:40:03 EST 25i6jWYd No.209727 Reply
>>209726
This is a pretty good definition. Though I feel like snitching also involves a level of "it doesn't really hurt anyone but you told them anyway". You witness a murder or report being robbed you're not a snitch. You report some guy selling drugs or a medical professionally ending the life of a terminal patient who wants to die will only be able to suffer for a few hours/days/weeks if they don't, you are snitching. Though I guess the murderer might disagree but in the big picture...

Snitch has negative connotations. Also if someone is doing something that hurts others, they were previously the ones with more power using it to hurt others. Then are you both? I know the police and government have a sinister side (of variable depth) but they have their uses and using those to protect yourself and others doesn't make you a shit.

Smoked, went to the dentist and discovered it is more likely a god exists than not

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- Tue, 14 May 2019 05:44:19 EST IjqeBpm5 No.209671
File: 1557827059677.jpg -(15822B / 15.45KB, 512x613) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Smoked, went to the dentist and discovered it is more likely a god exists than not
There are an infinite number of universes that have formed out of nothingness, existed, and collapsed in on themselves. We might be living in one.

There are also an infinite number of universes in which the lifeforms or meta-lifeforms that evolve in them over an infinite amount of time become at last able to create their own universes.

What sort of world these new gods would create is unknowable. However, we could imagine that there might be some number which create a universe similar to their own, rather than one entirely different.

Those who create a universe similar to their own reinforce the "evolutionary strength" of their universe. Those who do not, erase it.

By closely mirroring the successful conditions that led to them ascending to godhood themselves, the new gods make it more likely that their own universe will itself eventually create its own god-spawn.

And these god-spawn will, of course, create their own universes, and some of them will further reinforce the already-successful model, spawning yet more new gods.

Therefore, the likelihood that we are living in an "evolutionarily successful" universe, which eventually leads to the stage of evolution of its lifeforms ascending to godhood, is strong.

The likelihood that it was formed out of nothingness is small, but possible. The same goes for it being created according to rules that will not result in the ascension to godhood, as these universes would spawn no "children," and be the final descendants of that series of universes.

We can conclude that it is likely a god exists. What is the nature of that god? It's unknowable. Whether it's a guy monitoring a universe server farm, a bearded old man throwing lightning and interfering with the lifeforms, or a transcendental and indifferent All, we probably have no way to know. But it is exceedingly likely that the god exists.
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Emma Gummleshaw - Mon, 20 May 2019 16:10:28 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209676 Reply
>>209675
Agreed except for the thing about heat death. Check out my post about time in the infinity thread for a longer discussion of this idea, >>209614
but from a physics standpoint, if we assume the big bang emerged from a random quantum fluctuation in a larger domain (as is the prevailing theory if you want to keep from going into m-brane/p-brane stuff) then you don't actually need any energy to create a universe, just an extremely vast (non-)amount of nothing for an extremely long period of (non-)time. A heat-dead universe provides exactly those conditions.
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Eliza Mongerkad - Thu, 30 May 2019 17:12:01 EST zsQIZH1z No.209677 Reply
>>209671
This is basically the same as the "We're probably living in a simulation" argument.

The Hood Science

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- Mon, 10 Jun 2019 02:55:52 EST jnVpm8WV No.209686
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of protecting children. So, I want the kids in my hood to not be like me so much or at least not in a way that pisses off their parents or gets them in jail. I also have to be Jesse from fullhouse to my nephews and Mr Rogers to the kids in my building as well as my authentic self. How do I simultaneously encapsulate a positive role model as well as be the scumbag that I am in a way that doesn't make me feel like I am plastering on this fake smile and a completely fake person all the time, but also in a way that doesn't make me an easy target for disingenuous social workers trying to take me down for my alternative lifestyle?
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Beatrice Bluckledock - Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:14:09 EST Pr3KJWoH No.209692 Reply
drink, smoke, and do drugs in privacy. try to be intoxicated in privacy or in adult-only zones. be nice and as sober as you can around kids. there are gray areas but start with that

BWP Bump While Philosophizing

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- Tue, 14 May 2019 21:54:25 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209673
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Thought /pss/, slow as it is, might do well with a more general 'I was thinking/reading about this philosophy thing today' thread. We might get more content if people didn't feel so constrained to staying within a single topic, or had a place for discussions that don't quite warrant a whole topic of their own. Like all BW* threads, only bamp if you're philosophizing, no dumbposting. It would be p cool if we just kept bumping with new, different topics and maybe brief discussion instead of getting snarled into our traditional mires for all saying that will do

Hey, so to start off, I was browsing other boards and seeing shitty posts and thinking about the Santayana 'Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it' concept in terms of game theory. I think its reasonable to say that, because history is a collective process, it only requires a certain percentage of the population to not remember history for it to repeat. I looked for like a minute for some scholarly treatment of this concept viz game theory but couldn't find anything, so I wonder if it's really true even in the case of a simulation and what the actual percentage range might be?
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Lydia Goodlock - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 19:15:29 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209683 Reply
>>209681
>>Tell the kids they can't watch TV and open a history book
Yeah, but who wrote the history book? I don't think the problem of teaching history to future generations is as much in the media it is conveyed by but what information is available and taken seriously, and what sort of critical thinking capacity the general public has. I mean, there's probably some dude out there who won't let his kids watch TV because it's full of 'liberal lies about race mixing' and gives his kids the Turner Diaries to read before bed.
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Thomas Dubblelock - Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:00:52 EST dj+OKlwT No.209685 Reply
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>>209673
Considering whether many people listen to specialists who have access to this knowledge or preserve it through practice, people may be destined to repeat past mistakes or reinvent the wheel.

Maybe there is a certain collective unconscious threshold. What of latent or inherited knowledge? I don't know.

Between just a couple generations presently it seems like alot of useful wisdom and knowledge was lost. If certain specialists who keep certain fires going are valued by society then alot will continue to be known and utilized despite a majority of people who aren't knowledgeable about what-have-you. An institution with a public relations focus that translates technical jargon into layman's terms helps.

That essay comparing a most pit to the kinetics of gaseous particles and a study of human collective behavior defined two types of participants, one being active and subject to replicating the behavior of others nearby, the second being passive and "not subject to the flicking motions or random forces." Anyways, I wonder if knowledge could be modeled similarly to trace certain informations spread from person to person. It's interesting how (or if) a crowd reaches critical mass. https://youtu.be/hO8MwBZl-Vc most people are certainly the core and spirit of the show and have a significant effect on the crowd as whole despite their participation or not in the moshpit.

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