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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated March 22)
Weekly Classic phillosofical questions! #1 by Jarvis Turveywill - Sat, 01 Oct 2016 19:50:50 EST ID:aZIQO4pB No.206952 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>does good or/and bad really exist?

I'll try to give once a week a typical, classic question and begin a discussion. Should bring a bit more life to the board and action. don't forget to spam on the other boards
However i won't do it every week because i'm a lazy, forgetting and postponing guy (proscinating? i forgot the word in english....) So every one is invited to put the question at the beginning of a new week.
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Priscilla Bardwater - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 01:08:24 EST ID:P/dExdeU No.207005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206997
Yes, but what you seem to be forgetting and the point I'm trying to make is that Barack Obama would not have chosen the position if he didn't have the upper hand. Anyway, we're talking about good and bad, not diversity. Diversity is a quantitative measurement of a system. When you try and communicate it as a qualitative thing, you impose your own biased judgement on the matter.

Whether the conclusions derived from this measurement are good or bad is subjective. A person would have to be annointed with godlike power to be able to claim something as "universally good". They might think they have that power, but there will always be something out there that disagrees, and so it really isn't universal after all.
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Hamilton Wezzlewock - Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:21:26 EST ID:O5hl5Ujj No.207016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207005
Are you still going on about good and bad being subjective? No-one is arguing that they're objective. I already qualified good and bad in the context of goals in
>>206954.

"Good and bad is subjective" also isn't the final word on the topic. We can do better than throw our hands in the air. Every concept exists in the mind, that doesn't invalidate good and bad. We can look at the ontological status of good and bad, the categories it can be applied to, and how they relate to each other. We can compare the judgments over time and at different scales, and discuss whether short-term good/bad corresponds to or contradicts long-term good/bad, and whether individual good/bad is necessarily in line or opposed to collective good/bad.
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Hamilton Wezzlewock - Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:27:25 EST ID:O5hl5Ujj No.207017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207005
The point of bringing up diversity was to show that an individual may benefit more from being part of a group that isn't dominated by single member, than by dominating the potential members of that group. Families, teams, organizations, cities, nations in general demonstrate the value of group membership. Such arrangements aren't only good for the leaders.


Meaning of white in the United States by James Weffinghidging - Sun, 29 May 2016 19:27:33 EST ID:ryqaNXqr No.206075 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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According to most I've read, white means European caucasian in the U.S. Is that true and if it is, why are non-European caucasians thought to be a different race?
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Edward Pudgefatch - Sun, 18 Sep 2016 06:47:54 EST ID:aEaeNBh+ No.206861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206753
I'm pretty sure that the total amount of times the USA and Russia almost started WW3 numbers in the 10 times. Possibly the true number is 15 or 20. You never know how many close calls are still kept under red tape.
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Augustus Pocklock - Sat, 08 Oct 2016 20:40:05 EST ID:hvs4h/ox No.206994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what would a non european caucasian be ethnically speaking.

I think the term is nomenclating it's way back to a time when all caucasia was in one place.

Other wise it's us citizens getting out of being called white
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Ghengis Dong - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:03:48 EST ID:mQSzo9rp No.207034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Armenian, Georgian, Chechen, Ossetian, Balkar, Kabardian, Ingush, Abkhaz, and Azeri people to name a few.


ethics by Plato - Wed, 14 Sep 2016 17:32:14 EST ID:6FMjnYNY No.206805 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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lets talk ethics

Is it a virtue to throw ham on a cat for the laughs of people on the internet?
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Molly Clerrydale - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:05:39 EST ID:Pn8OQSEF No.206936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206933
>>206935
It was a joke friends. It was supposed to be ironic because in the same post where I mention that OP's question of virtue is not one of ethics, I also mistake epistemology for metaphysics. hue hu
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Matilda Fellyhall - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:47:31 EST ID:GViFPk9x No.206944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i like cats
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sat, 08 Oct 2016 17:09:21 EST ID:lJKwg7RK No.206991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm glad this is the first thread I read when I haven't been on /pss/ in 2 months.


philosophical crickets by Fanny Turveyshit - Fri, 30 Sep 2016 18:40:38 EST ID:0aDGMcny No.206947 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If a philosophy thread falls in a chan, and nobody replies to it, does it really make a sound at all?

What is the sound of one troller trolling?

plz no ban 4 stupid thread just complaining the board has been dead for days
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Ebenezer Hecklesturk - Sat, 01 Oct 2016 10:16:40 EST ID:37fjOf8M No.206949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206948
>its always been dead
it's always been shit too. Even without the feminism thread this board has historically been nonsense and wankery. usually anyways.
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Barnaby Wabblebanks - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 03:24:35 EST ID:wQ+xU09t No.206955 Ignore Report Quick Reply
/pss/ was born deformed and retarded. However, I have good memories of /ph/.
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Frederick Lightshaw - Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:07:19 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.206972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206948
I lol'ed so hard at this.
God damn those fucking feminism threads used to make me so mad. So many retarded feminazis. So many retarded MRAs.
"You saw the new Mad Max!? You're a fucking traitor! They're trying to feminize our culture! We need more masculinity!"


4 branches of government by Lydia Drublingcocke - Sat, 01 Oct 2016 15:38:27 EST ID:ffaKH0UR No.206950 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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We all know the "3 branches of government" (executive, legislative, judicial) having checks and balances sounds good in theory, but in practice is pretty ineffective. Moreover, it results in the common people having little say.

What if we added a fourth branch of government that was effectively direct democracy? Imagine there's an additional "congress" made up of every citizen who's not an elected official. People generally cry "tyranny of the majority" when direct democracy is brought up but if it was just another branch of government with checks and balances, even they'd no longer have any ideological problems with it.

Other than The Powers That Be not wanting you to have control over your life, why isn't this a thing?
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Lydia Guvingridge - Mon, 03 Oct 2016 12:18:47 EST ID:ffaKH0UR No.206962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206959
>contact your representative
I do know people used to do that but you'll get put on a watch list if you do it now. I'd prefer that personally but it hasn't been a viable option for decades

>vote their asses out
>run for election on your own platform and see if enough people support it.
These are ineffective for actually changing society because republics are not about governance. They're about getting elected. And it's not like the people we elect are "experts" either. They hire/get a team (their cabinet). Shit, I'd bet the average person on this board is honestly better suited to be in congress than the average person in the House.
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Emma Drenderway - Mon, 03 Oct 2016 12:28:12 EST ID:Uo2Tvgaj No.206963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What people want and what people need are not the same thing. The best form of government is benevolent dictatorship, but since we can't trust anyone, democracy gives us a peaceful mechanism of revolution - vote for someone else. That brings competition into government and makes people work to get in power or to stay in power. That's the total value of democracy, what people want on a day-to-day basis is irrelevant if not harmful to government, since the masses are easily swayed by the media and fashion.
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Molly Bunkinpadging - Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:05:10 EST ID:aEaeNBh+ No.206971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206963
Eh, that's actually a good description of how democracy works. I like it. I'll remember that.


Are concepts real? by Frederick Focklelin - Thu, 15 Sep 2016 17:12:36 EST ID:i0p+MvmF No.206828 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is a concept real? Concepts can obviously impact reality, for example the concept of a nation, but the concept is not physically real, there is no physical America. Yet at the same time, to deny that America exists would be ridiculous.

Can something that is not real impact physical reality? Luke Skywalker is not real, but he's impacted our reality. So is he real then?

What do you think 420 chan? Are concepts real? Is there any non-physical thing that you think is objectively real?
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Eugene Fiblingwater - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:06:18 EST ID:4do4rcf2 No.206937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206828
words will never be "real," all labels are simply metaphors. humans, with our thought process bound by language, will be the ouroboros for as long as we are addicted to language
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Rebecca Bunstone - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:25:15 EST ID:cLVVDDMN No.206940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206937
>words will never be "real,"

Surely a concept is more than just a spelled out word, though. When I think of math, I don't think "M-A-T-H... there, that's all there is to math". It's theorems, formulas, and proofs. We must acknowledge the existence of the concept as a foundational proof. That's what makes it real.

But I really do get what you're saying. In order for us to understand math or anything else in reality, including an object like an apple, we need to use symbols. Not just written or vocalized symbols in language, but mental symbols. The mind evokes ideas about the object whenever it senses a similar pattern. The shape, the taste, and perhaps even a more basic sense of the nature of the thing. Reification is the mental process that evokes the concept of whatever it is we think we're observing. And you're right, the symbols are not yet perfect.

>all labels are simply metaphors

Yes, but metaphors of what? Is it really an apple that we're trying to define, or is the concept of an apple too inaccurate to represent what's actually there? Obviously it's real enough for us to carry on with our daily lives. But at a fundamental level, if it isn't a picture-perfect apple, then can we really say that apples exist outside of the concept of the thing? Or is the notion of an apple a trick that the mind plays when trying to cram the ineffable, infinite world into a very finite set of symbols?

Can there ever be anything in reality that's capable of painting a perfectly accurate picture of the world, if not symbols? How many different variations of a symbolic thing can there be? No two apples are exactly the same, so is there really such a thing as an apple in the first place?
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Matilda Fellyhall - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:45:28 EST ID:GViFPk9x No.206942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206828

is this like plato and his forms?


Post modern arguments by Rebecca Banderwitch - Sun, 18 Sep 2016 18:11:59 EST ID:vs7quCaP No.206867 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does post-modernism make having any kind of substantive argument literally impossible in this day and age?

There's no way to really have a back and forth, if people are coming from two different positions, the argument immediately devolves into semantics and personal attacks or implications about identity and bias.

There's no way to convince people of anything anymore, you can't point to any scientific fact without people questioning it's validity. Morality is even more ambiguous, people can justify or decry any act no matter how depraved or altruistic.

Am I being dramatic or has it always been this way?
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Mon, 19 Sep 2016 02:29:00 EST ID:vano1wpA No.206874 Ignore Report Quick Reply
All of these things have existed since the beginning of disputation, they're not particular to modernity. All philosophical disagreement is ultimately linguistic.
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Beatrice Hashlock - Mon, 19 Sep 2016 09:01:45 EST ID:aEaeNBh+ No.206877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think you're fucking retarded, Rebecca Banderwitch.
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Cyril Baddleham - Mon, 19 Sep 2016 14:39:17 EST ID:U7ynDDaE No.206880 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206877
Prolly some high guy who thought he was on /b



free psychology courses by Sidney Buzzlefore - Sat, 10 Sep 2016 04:35:15 EST ID:1UA91FuB No.206729 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello, I'm interested in finding free (or pirated) psychology courses, full education programs, syllabuses etc. I don't care for any kind of certificates, just acquiring the knowledge itself.

I'm especially interested in developmental and personality psychology. Don't care for historical theories on the other hand.
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The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 19:45:31 EST ID:G2LMnx/t No.206778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Try searching Youtube for Harvard/Yale/MIT..etc. lectures, they often post complete playlists of all lectures for a given class.
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Betsy Penningway - Thu, 15 Sep 2016 15:39:20 EST ID:1UA91FuB No.206826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206778

I see like 1 20-30 video series per university and its all "introduction to" or about some nonsense like positivity/happiness. I want to attain the knowledge of a psychologist, bits and pieces here and there won't be enough.
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Nigel Doggledale - Mon, 19 Sep 2016 04:27:14 EST ID:t6MSIlrw No.206875 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206729 There's this kind of stuff: http://www.openculture.com/freeonlinecourses https://www.edx.org/


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