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We have to talk about louie ck by Beatrice Cloffingman - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 00:52:00 EST ID:ZQywfuGk No.207508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Now louie is alright but there is something that he said which got me thinking like a dog stuck in the dog door. You see that guy was on a interview and he comes up with this way of looking where "a little white girl doesn't get to complain". He continues on about how when his kid was sick and he got her flavored medicine which she didn't want. "what do you mean no? People are starving to death and you say no!? You don't get to!"

And it hit me, okay she is not starving and that's better than the alternative but in a way, she resembles what society has sacrificed inorder to not starve. That little girl sick but she still thinking about petty shit like the flavor of her medicine, she forever in this headspace where things like that matter. The sacrifice is a clear mind replaced by that of something like a consumer.
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Phoebe Semmlestog - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:57:20 EST ID:DLzNkYBL No.207511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So it sounds to me like Lou is pretty much on point with this observation. But I don't know if he's getting at that is creating a consumerist mentality, it's really just a re-telling of the 'first world problems' meme.
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Ernest Godgestare - Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:46:25 EST ID:2IPvcf8v No.207522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well its not really a new point or anything. But consumerism sure has turned around and created a strange culture. And its made some hellish kids thats for sure. Don't think that there was a time prior to industrialization that average people could afford to lavish their child with all sorts of things at a whim.

Consumer culture creates a lot of crying. A lot of give me. Buy me this. I need that. I mean obviously first world problems, but hey there sure isn't any going back on it. Most People would never get up comfort to get away from that. Can only imagine how poorly behaved kids are gonna be in a 100 years.
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Rebecca Huzzleshaw - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 22:25:03 EST ID:yJ+BqvQx No.207572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207508
Consumerism is also the root of Lifestylism, like Trans Culture.
That there's a culture with a lifestyle including body modification and tribal code words and the whole nine yards. It's just breathtaking, the way Consumerism makes people feel so incomplete, and the fact it can even turn a concept like incomplete into a positive or negative thing, the spook of a requirement for completion, a requirement to get at something that can't be got.
That's the mental illness aspect-- that people are killing themselves to get at shit that doesn't exist, or isn't this thing that they think it is.
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e - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:44:36 EST ID:0Mj9k/QI No.207692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ahh, he's just a comedian
can we talk about Kant instead?
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Phyllis Fanwill - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:45:30 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207692
Here's a little philosophy for you.

>Can we talk about Kant instead?
>He's just a comedian

What makes Kant more-relevant than Louie? As a philosopher, what makes you assume that Kant is more-valuable in terms of philosophizing about than Louie? Especially seeing as Louie is contemporary where as Kant is quite past our time.
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Hamilton Duckway - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 11:13:32 EST ID:RilgByUK No.207701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207700

Kant had a huge impact on modern western thought, ideals and principles. His ideas are still relevant, hell even in legislation like how late in a pregnancy abortion is allowed.

Louie CK is just a comedian that got famous by stating the obvious.


Anyways, I think OP is waaay off point. She's a fucking child, of course she'd think about petty shit. Just as much as the kids who starve think about petty shit as well.

The little girl lives in the first-world bubble, and can't picture anything else because she's young and has never experienced true starvation And I bet none of us here on this board actually have. Whereas the starving kids lives in another bubble and can't properly fathom the bounty first-worlders live in. How is the latter any clearer than the mind-set of the first-world girl?
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Eugene Murdstock - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 18:10:31 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207701
>Louie CK is just a comedian that got famous by stating the obvious.

Wrong.

Louie CK is just a comedian ~who~ got famous by stating the obvious, and through careful emphasis gets laughs out of people - on top of making them think.

The line between comedy and philosophy isn't as clear cut as you think. The line is still there, I will admit that. But that line is fuzzy. Especially when you get to actually good comedy, because the best comedy jabs and cuts and makes you bleed. Keeps your brain going, keeps you thinking.

And philosophy is nothing but thinking about thinking.
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Frederick Brookwell - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:02:16 EST ID:H2tA2lTK No.207703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207702
So is Sam Hyde a philosopher or a comedian?
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Undead Rimbaud Yeast - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 04:09:17 EST ID:PNxBjttw No.207704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207702
The proverbial line between philosophy and comedy is very thin and merely decorated by Kant's color aesthetics
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Albert Feggleway - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 05:59:35 EST ID:DcOQa66d No.207707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207508
I can follow that. Western society seeks economic growth above all else. It's the unspoken religion. The whole apparatus of society is engineered and re-engineered to create the maximum economic growth. This requires the assimilation and submission of the citizen- a unit containing a predetermined net financial worth- to the total apparatus, which creates and recreates as it pleases, according to the almighty laws of finance.
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Alice Bunshit - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:23:51 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207703
Sam Hyde is a philosopher in the school of "do not think like this because you will ruin your life and the lives of your loved ones".

The guy literally turned his life in a joke, and he's living in the ruins of it. He's the perfect example of the archetype comedian who takes the joke too far.
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Phyllis Blinderchit - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:25:28 EST ID:RilgByUK No.207709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>207702
>>207708

Making someone think doesn't make you a philosopher. Neither does observing quirks in our generally absurd culture count. Not by a long shot. At most these people hold more wisdom than the average guy and use humor to get it across.

I mean how big do you think this 'exclusive' club oughta be? Should every guy with a point make fun of the established culture and thus be declared a fucking philosopher? Then stand in the queue mate.

I don't want to get into an argument about what constitutes a philosopher here, but there should be fucking standards.
Safe to say they're gonna remember Kant way beyond Louie CK. Why? Because Kant actually had something worthwhile and timeless to contribute to the canon. Whereas a comedian like Louie just spend 5 min a'quip making fun about human nature with no arguments besides "What he said was funny, and it's funny because it's true lol".
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Hannah Chubbleput - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 21:42:59 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207709
I did say there is a line between philosophy and comedy. A fuzzy line, but a line none the less. Fucking read my post sourpuss.

And my post on Sam Hyde is clearly sarcastic. Sam Hyde has nothing to say about thinking except some bottom-of-the-barrel nihilism.
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Priscilla Suffingshit - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 08:54:22 EST ID:dp+uVP20 No.207713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wait so louis ck white guilts his daughter because she doesn't like a certain kind of medicine? lmao what the hell. I think I've heard about 4 total minutes of his comedy before in my whole life but I don't remember anything like this.
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Jack Ginningworth - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 11:27:14 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So if Kant was a comedian instead of a philosopher and instead of writing The Critique of Pure Reason he did a comedy routine called The Critique of Pure Reason (that encompasses the same ideas but makes them funny), would you stop referencing Kant as a philosopher?

>Making someone think doesn't make you a philosopher.
What does make someone a philosopher? We all philosophize, even the common man does that. So what makes a philosopher?
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Molly Turveyhood - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:38:33 EST ID:hlKekAJM No.207716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207715

>a comedy routine called The Critique of Pure Reason (that encompasses the same ideas but makes them funny)

This needs to happen
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Lydia Pippersten - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 18:44:21 EST ID:Z08uqMmD No.207717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207713

Yeah.. he started getting more political. I mean, I like the guy and his work, but I don't like to see him pandering like that.
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Nathaniel Tillingworth - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:29:51 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207717
Dude , he has always been political. You just were too much of a dumb edgy teen to realise it.
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John Puvingwater - Tue, 14 Feb 2017 06:11:28 EST ID:dp+uVP20 No.207719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207717
>>207718
Does he normally trash his own kids like that and incorporate it into his standup? pandering or not that seems like weird behavior for a parent, even if he wasn't publicly bragging about it. I don't know much about standup though.
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Nathaniel Tillingworth - Tue, 14 Feb 2017 06:29:23 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207719
He doesn't trash his own children. He trashes everyone, including his loved ones and himself.

Go look up his piece on the disconnect between wanting to be a morally good person and how one lives their life.
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Lydia Fonkindale - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:36:13 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The greatest philosophy teacher is he who is most understood and most listened to. Comedy helps with that. Comedy is a tool to those ends. That being said, you get comics like Trevor Noah who try to do this but fail miserably because instead of making quips that encompass some sort of brilliant idea he simply insults anything and everything not liberal with smart-ass comments without ever digging into anything on a philosophical level. It's just, "OH YOU DON'T THINK TRUMP IS A NAZI!? WELL, LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY NEVER READ 1984 LOLOLOLOL" And then the audience laughs and liberals feels more-secure in their beliefs because someone is making jokes on their side of the argument.
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Hannah Humblebanks - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:39:19 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207725
And then there's this little faggot the future immigrant who has to derail the thread as per direct order from his Breitbart mindcontrol overlords.

Political satire is completely different from the kind of general life comedy we're discussing here. One is about straightforward politics. The other is about how humans give form to life, in any and all aspects on all levels.

You completely miss the point, you giant cocksucking faggot.
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Lydia Fonkindale - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:16:14 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207726
>Rages randomly
Rage harder, faggot.

And way to derail the thread like a total faggot.
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Ian Willerridge - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:40:24 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.207729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207719
Every goddamn comedian who has kids complains about them in disturbingly personal and direct ways, to the point that it's a cliche shtick.
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John Pockville - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:36:14 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207729
Because giving life is the biggest common thread throughout human culture. Of course every comedian is going to rail on that. Just like jokes about death.
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Graham Hummlecocke - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:36:23 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.207733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207731
Exactly, which is why it doesn't make sense for >>207719 to complain about it.
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Hedda Pillerlare - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:04:33 EST ID:dp+uVP20 No.207737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207733
maybe I'm just a weirdo in that I think you shouldn't go out of your way to embarrass and harass your children over things they don't understand for the sake of a comedy bit. perhaps it's unfair to make jokes about every subject and person but leave your own kids out of it. I'm sure it will be good for the children. as I said, I don't know much about standup.
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Nicholas Guckleville - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 14:43:12 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207737
You're fucking stupid if you think Louie uses his children in his jokes to make them look stupid. You fucking retard.

Louie uses his children in his jokes to make US ADULTS look stupid.

Example: his Monopoly joke. He explains to the crowd that he likes to play Monopoly with his 4 year old daughter, and makes her go bankrupt. The last line in the joke goes like this. "Give me all your money. Everything you have. That's MINE now. I own that. It's no longer yours. And now, I'm going to take ALL YOUR STUFF, and use it to destroy your older sister!"

At this point, the crowd knows the joke is no longer about playing Monopoly with children. It's a joke on human society. People use money to ruin other people so they can take their money, and then they use that money they just took from those other people, to ruin even more people so they can take even more money.
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Caroline Nebberhure - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 18:21:57 EST ID:dp+uVP20 No.207751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207750
>YOU STUPID FUCKING RETARD STOP SAYING STUFF I DONT LIKE
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Graham Baddlebury - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 04:52:04 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>207751
It is not that I don't like what you say.

I see that you don't fucking understand what we talk about. If you're too stupid to understand the conversation, fuck off. /pss/ is clearly too deep 4 u.
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Nigel Nibblebanks - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:08:10 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207753
You're a bit emotional for /pss/, but then again pretty much everyone here who's not me is too emotional.
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Graham Baddlebury - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 17:35:02 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>207756
>You're a bit emotional for /pss/, but then again pretty much everyone here who's not me is too emotional.

Reread your post, and you'll figure out the joke yourself mate.
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Cyril Wallerworth - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:23:58 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.207758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207756
Everyone who comes to this board are emotional children who like to get their jollies from trying to sound smarter than other people they don't know on the internet. And there are like five of us, and we're all garbage people. Don't try to deny it.
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Ernest Pablingway - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 03:50:09 EST ID:YONArVoZ No.207759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207758
This, I just came here by accident and you're all the worst.
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Fucking Brocklewick - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 08:57:11 EST ID:5T+lpeRC No.207760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207753
>lol I'm smarter than you
>but I"m not stuck up look at this ironic blingee anime gif I'm chill
>I'M SMART FUCK OFF
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Cedric Drebberwan - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 09:42:25 EST ID:YXMsMuFM No.207777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>207758


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