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- Sun, 07 May 2017 09:26:04 EST K4ulXiPw No.208120
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Lately i've been looking into the physosophy of good and evil,the angelic and the demonic and so on.I am looking for a book that explores the duality of concepts like these,any suggestions
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Eugene Bunville - Sun, 07 May 2017 16:50:23 EST Ya59RsKY No.208122 Reply
OP, I don't mean this in a disparaging way, but you're looking for /x/ or /tinfoil/.
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Jarvis Summledeck - Tue, 16 May 2017 11:11:11 EST 54PBc7Id No.208146 Reply
There are many schools of thought, especially religious ones, that tell you distinctly what is right and what is wrong. Those are just opinions being projected as facts.

I believe that the Taoists got it right when they said that there is no such thing as right or wrong, that all good actions have negative consequences and all bad actions have positive consequences outside of their obvious positive and negative consequences, respectfully.

Like, would the world be a better place if Hitler had never existed? No. Putting a stop to things you consider 'evil' doesn't necessitate a less-evil world.
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Nathaniel Fonnerwag - Sat, 20 May 2017 22:58:36 EST QprTvKey No.208157 Reply
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You'll eat all the Nietzsche on your plate and you'll like it, or you're not getting metaphysics for dessert.
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Ernest Trothood - Sun, 21 May 2017 16:01:25 EST cX1xC7TR No.208158 Reply
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>>208157
Nietzsche was a bit of retard though. He made a point out of being wrong about anything. Then he hugged a horse went mad and died. If he lived what he preached he'd be a cool customer. But he was the antithesis of everything he idolized. A syphilitic retard, not the superman.
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Rebecca Cengerdirk - Mon, 22 May 2017 12:08:00 EST +03vTqbN No.208160 Reply
>>208158
Horse meme, syphilis meme, "Nietzsche was a hypocrite" meme. Great post.
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James Bullylock - Fri, 26 May 2017 13:24:31 EST SJbbLeO5 No.208162 Reply
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>>208158

What bearing does a man's life has on the value of his ideas? Just because Marx was shitty managing his personal finances doesn't mean he wasn't a brilliant economical theorist.
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Fucking Sanningshaw - Tue, 13 Jun 2017 16:12:29 EST jAYQ7vMV No.208231 Reply
>>208162
He wasn't. Just look what his ideas did to the world.
A 'brilliant' idea on paper is not brilliant in practice, because in practice you face everything you didn't want to face, the shortcomings of humanity.
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Molly Pimmletan - Tue, 13 Jun 2017 18:44:40 EST UgAS1X+C No.208232 Reply
>>208231
Well one person controlling the majority of the wealth is not only bad in practice for Marxism but theory. Most communism struggles are because nobody in theory can reach it. Any ruling class or governorment enforced communism is not because the entire origin is Hegelian. Meaning self consciousness requires community not state for self recognition and labor to succeed. Mao, Stalin, Castro all were enforcers of a state. A state cannot work as an idea because it isn't free. The community is what it apes the idea of a living polis or context
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Molly Pimmletan - Tue, 13 Jun 2017 18:49:13 EST UgAS1X+C No.208233 Reply
>>208158
Nietzsche was somewhat a creative genius realizing truths in youth that galvanized
Him where they would drive most humans mad. Not only conducting his own psycho therapy but his own sociology.

Ben franklin also had syphlisis and he helped out quite a bit.
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Fuck Pinninghot - Wed, 14 Jun 2017 16:49:36 EST Ya59RsKY No.208235 Reply
>>208232
You have demonstrated that Leninism (Mao, Stalin, Castro) is a totally different thing from Marxism. Good for you, it is! What does that have to do with Nietzsche or good and evil or anything else in this thread?
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Walter Willyledge - Thu, 15 Jun 2017 11:15:08 EST UgAS1X+C No.208237 Reply
>>208235
in addition, they were both responders to hegel and predisposed with the metaphysics of value. As well as outlining things in world stages, and structuring there philosophy based on the same mechanics of logic in that.

Nietzhce even took the subsuming of tensions in greater and greater stages to self overcoming. While Marx took it a materialist place. Both were obsessed with the master and slave dynamic. And the concept of self recognition.
So on and so on.
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Priscilla Mobberson - Thu, 15 Jun 2017 15:21:50 EST Ya59RsKY No.208238 Reply
>>208236
That's my point. The Man with No Name up there >>208162 mentions Marx in a throwaway comment merely comparing the story of Nietzsche's life to his, and now all of a sudden we're talking about the practical effects of Marxist theory. This is the second thread on the front page that has been derailed from its true topic into discussing Marx merely by someone having mentioned his name. Maybe we need a Marx containment thread?
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Walter Willyledge - Thu, 15 Jun 2017 17:38:49 EST UgAS1X+C No.208239 Reply
>>208238
no that will only excerbate it. If your intentions are to get less marx threads popping up don't do it. I agree though people have tried to make pss incredibly political. And there basically using marx's status as a philosopher to achieve that.

My take on beyond good in evil, is that Nietzche basically outlined the parts of the creative process and the living independently process that affect or stop us from achieving the experience of the uber or the super. And it's technically the super ego. The voice that berates us with good and bad left and right, whose job it is to give rise to the function of values and soul to make meaning. According to nietzche the advent of morals imprisons man but also makes man and life interesting. With us finding reasons for our pain. This part of the concept of good and bad divides value in to category, and rationale into fixed position for what is good and bad and why you suffer.

This doesn't help you achieve the sublime. or understand the abyss as the pillow that it is. Because you are still being punished for it forever being caste into the negative in the good and evil phase.
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Walter Willyledge - Thu, 15 Jun 2017 17:40:26 EST UgAS1X+C No.208240 Reply
>>208239 the entire thing being historically interesting and good fuel for social commentary. But asphyxiating or trapping for the human mind and soul.

Nietzche believes this is the human being refusing to diversify and expand it's mental diet.
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