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I smell chaos all over the damn place

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- Sat, 17 Jun 2017 08:59:34 EST Sm7nPCsL No.208243
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What would happen if the world changes faster than people, and can that happen indefinitely?

In the Nordic countries, the amount of children going through a sex change is increasing every year. This is all good or not depending on what you think but the undeniable thing is that this is a big change taking place. Maybe just one of many examples of big change. What i fear is that the current social order and history has lead humanity to a certain point, it's a world where culture can't keep up with all the changes yet at the same time there is no alternative to this obsolete culture.

It's like because our reality is different, we become different but we don't even have time to adjust.
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Isabella Cinkinwit - Sat, 17 Jun 2017 16:07:10 EST UgAS1X+C No.208244 Reply
chaos or many instances of what hegelian geist completions.

These issues are so old, but we reached a point where they began being more public, do to media's change. Reporters were normal people, youtube, facebook, or mass reprsentations of anonymous free of inhibition coagulates like here, twitter, and other places not even ameteur individuals.

The main stream media now follows that pace. We can't separate satirical and ironic work from actual questions to where we can't determine incompetency from collusion.

On top of that most of the conceptual leads are old ideas, and ideas we got out of sort.

Celebrating the latest semi perfunctory philosopher that appears on joe rogan because we can't put his arguments with his random friends and ufc collaborators about flat earth.

It's been a longgg time in the making. Sex changes aren't even the issue, it's not culture becoming obsolete because of the world. It's culture creating more culture faster and faster, and forgetting that it's trends and populist movements live on sometimes for decades.

Culture itself hasn't forgotten the bracketed decades of culture changes and giant revolutions of the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, an d 90's in fact some were saying we were celebrating to prematurely.

While the old canonical expectations waited for that next shift. Well here it is, but you are seeing it take shape for you in the seventh year of the decade.

Sesame Street is off pbs, as expressed in 2012, digital services out pacing tv, and more.

A spirtual crisis centering around lack of identity, fugue states, what spirtual realities drugs can bring and more.

Hope for learning skills we have always known culturally but not manually. Anything known by the anthropos to be takin on by the self.

Pretty crazy.
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Isabella Drillylire - Sun, 18 Jun 2017 00:08:56 EST Ya59RsKY No.208245 Reply
>>208243
>>What would happen if the world changes faster than people, and can that happen indefinitely?
The accelerating rate of progress is a well documented phenomena. It occurs in evolutionary systems at all levels. In human society it happens because our technology increases the efficiency with which we can get things done, which create new problems themselves, which we solve and move to the next stage with even further efficiency, etc. Our effectiveness compounds our own problems upon themselves, we are like toddlers who are getting into trouble faster than we can get ourselves out of it. But this is the way evolution works; by creating crises. It pushes the envelope of the kinds of problems its current stage of development can solve until it reaches a problem that it can't solve (the Peter principle) but because it is evolution and not a single employee like in the principle, instead of merely evolving it enters a phase of revolution where a completely new capability emerges and reshapes the world. This happened in the transition from single celled to multi-celled life, the evolution of the neuron, the evolution of cooperative behavior, etc. It's this tension between plateaus and climaxes of development that gives evolutionary history (including human history) its 'punctuated equilibrium' logarithmic shape.

So for most of human history, a generation of human thought lasted much longer than a human lifetime. However, because of the self-referential exponential growth of our capacity, many generations of thought occur within a single life. The more and more this increases, the more our fundamental, unchanging human capacity to process information is stretched beyond its capacity (the brain, after all, can only improve on the scale of tens of thousands of years.)

This is the 'Future Shock' Alvin Toffler warned us of:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Shock

Modernity might be described as the period in which generations of thought are shorter than the length of a human life, and part of what has given modernity it's unique quality. However, we are at the tail end of that process, approaching the period where our human capacity to adapt is fundamentally exceeded. As mathematician Von Neumann suggested:
"The accelerating progress of technology and changes in the mode of human life, give the appearance of approaching some essential singularity in the history of the race beyond which human affairs, as we know them, could not continue"

Enter the Singularity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity
As Nietzsche said, we are just beings caught between the evolution from the animal into the superman. This doesn't just apply to our own personal development as individuals, but the fate of our species. When humans are no longer capable of managing the issue of survival in the world, either humans will fail to continue to exist, or we will become something post-human. My bet is on the latter occurring, as evolution hasn't let us down yet, and as they say, never bet against the house.

So obviously that's just a taste of the thought that has been done on this subject, but suffice it to say 1.) no, you're not crazy, history really is 'speeding up' and we can even measure the rate of its travel 2.) everything descends into chaos as a prelude, but an entirely new order of being results as life develops a new tier of capabilities to adapt, once its existing capabilities are exhausted (or else, extinction) 3.) there's no reason to stress out about it, this is the way evolution has always worked. We're merely very fortunate to be able to witness a crucial turning point in our own time, perhaps make some minute contribution to its transition.
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Edwin Clengerlock - Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:30:11 EST TXzq2wrO No.208246 Reply
The world doesn't change faster than people.

There just aren't enough young people to drown out the old fucking useless elderly wastes of flesh.

Also, old people live very long, so they keep crying about how things change too much.
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Simon Deggleson - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 00:05:10 EST Ya59RsKY No.208247 Reply
>>208246
>>The world doesn't change faster than people.
Do you mean all people as a net sum, or some people relative to others? If the latter, that's obviously not the case, what about Sentinelese islanders? Obviously the world has changed faster than them.

Even if the former, it's misleading, because the net combination of human activity can create epi-phenomenal change that are greater than any or even all humans' capacity to individually create or to cope with (what else could you describe anthropogenic climate change as?)
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Phoebe Blannerway - Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:28:08 EST YXMsMuFM No.208248 Reply
>>208246

Yes it does. That's the reason why WW1 turned into such a shitstorm nightmare; technology had advanced so much that you now could have destructive power rivaling several men in the hands of one soldier, yet those same soldiers were under command of old generals accustomed to the warfare of the preceding century.
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Hannah Fudgehood - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 17:15:39 EST v0UCDIkg No.208249 Reply
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>>208247
Comparing the primitive with late-modern societies, despite a change of technology, way of life, etc., primal archetypes remain. Archetype being a basic fundamental form which reappears again and again. Hence how two very different cultures separated by distance and time have developed nearly the same imagery and beliefs about life.

"They are expressions of the structure of the human psyche." Of what is inside us and the need to understand, or, "reflections of spiritual and depth potentialities of every one of us."

Jung says:
>"The circle is one of the great primordial images of mankind, that in considering the symbol of the circle, we are analyzing the self."

The chief of a Pawnee tribe:
>"When we pitch camp, we pitch the camp in a circle. When we looked at the horizon, the horizon was in a circle. When the eagle builds a nest, the nest is in circle."

Plato describes the soul as a circle. Joseph Campbell supposes it represents totality:
>Within the circle is one thing, it is encircled, it's enframed. That would be the spatial aspect, but the temporal aspect of the circle is, you leave, go somewhere and come back, the alpha and omega. God is the alpha and omega, the source and the end. Somehow the circle suggests immediately a completed totality, whether in time or in space."

We're reminded of this when looking at an analog clock and see the cycle of time. Continuing with the mandala and for the Navajo the Pollen Path.

Campbell continues: "in working out a mandala for oneself, what one does is draw a circle and then think of the different impulse systems in your life, the different value systems in your life, and try then to compose them and find what the center is. It’s kind of discipline for pulling all those scattered aspects of your life together, finding a center and ordering yourself to it. So you’re trying to coordinate your circle with the universal circle."

"[..] So the little cosmos of one’s own life and the macrocosm of the world’s life are in some way to be coordinated. Well, for instance, among the Navaho Indians, healing ceremonies were conducted by way of sand paintings, which were mostly mandalas, on the ground and then the person who is to be treated moves into the mandala. There will be a mythological context that he will be identifying with, and he identifies himself with that power. And this idea of sand painting with mandalas and used for meditation purposes appears also in Tibet in the great Tantric monasteries outside of Lhasa. For instance, Rgyud Stod, they practiced sand painting, cosmic images and so forth indicating the forces of the spiritual powers that operate in our lives."
http://billmoyers.com/content/ep-6-joseph-campbell-and-the-power-of-myth-masks-of-eternity-audio/

Everything will never make sense because of life's ever-changing complexities, but some things remain the same. Through symbols and belief we order ourselves in relation to our society, to nature, Earth, and the universe.
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Ian Hummerpare - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 17:19:56 EST +mfMKU1Z No.208271 Reply
The world doesn't change faster than people.

There are just so many people that a one-size-fits-all culture is no longer viable.
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Reuben Wishway - Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:39:42 EST YXMsMuFM No.208273 Reply
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>In the Nordic countries, the amount of children going through a sex change is increasing every year.

How much per capita?

Do you think the increase will be noticed at all, considering the increase is practically from zero operations per year?


As a Norwegian guy, nope so far this has not been a big change. Not even noticeable.

If you wanna talk about this "big change", talk about shit like the fact that even poor people get to go to bed with a full stomach, or how we've stopped and eradicated every major disease to the point that cancer is recognized as a big killerProtip it wasn't a big killer for the entirety of human history.
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Nigel Brongershaw - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 08:10:26 EST xyW1LE2o No.208274 Reply
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Op's post is just "oh no! transs, yuck!!"
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Cyril Fanridge - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 06:13:17 EST 8gq7GAVV No.208286 Reply
>>208274
OP probably is one of those self-hating cuties.

All those alt-right faggots are anime-watching sissies kneedeep in the closet anyway.
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Oliver Hiddlepid - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:13:50 EST Sm7nPCsL No.208290 Reply
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>>208273

Okay poor example of change, so so sorry. I only remember about a big increase in Denmark and Sweden but I wasn't sure about Norway.

>will it be noticeable with time

Well I gather that this is only a recent thing you are allowed to do there, but the steady rise makes one question when it will naturally stop rising. Then there is the aspect of someone going through it without it being necessary both realistically and perceived- as in perceived:bigotry realistically:error-in-judgment

>>208274
>>208286

All i did was mentioning "cuties" and how increasingly more of them are going through a sex change so young. You two need to calm down.
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Ernest Singerpork - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 00:01:20 EST kAzZP0bJ No.208292 Reply
>>208290
>calm down
calm down? on the version of /pol/ where everybody thinks the're a philosopher? HAH!
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Jack Crablingbid - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 07:11:26 EST QpaoOR2q No.208293 Reply
>>208292
calm down in a thread with an op hysteric about children changing sex.
I just did a quick google search btw, and found out children can change their gender by filling out a form. Before that you had to actually undergo surgery for a sex change to be recognised.
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Augustus Monnerhat - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 08:06:14 EST Sm7nPCsL No.208294 Reply
>>208292

The irony is that i simply mentioned ts children, proves how sensitive the issue is.
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Isabella Sonningfuck - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:44:22 EST 8gq7GAVV No.208295 Reply
>>208290
>You two need to calm down.

Says the fag crying about shit no one cares.
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James Crappersutch - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 11:52:00 EST Sm7nPCsL No.208296 Reply
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>>208295

I don't know seems like some people had a lot to say in this thread, maybe they can read what it's actually about. So yeah, calm down and suck on a pacifier.

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