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>Heterosexual people and transgenders coexist peacefully in other cultures you might call more primitive, so it's definitely not being heterosexual that defines our own.I believe your referring to the island or w/e with the third gender? I can't exactly remember their name or anything, but I specifically remember the part where as Auntcles they supported their hetero family members children giving them an advantage, which was why they were accepted, and therefore resulted in the much higher then normal rate of transexualism(it was like 4-7%?). Still, your dealing with an outlying tribe of people on a much smaller scale, which has been proven to fail on civilization scale with the fall of Rome. And even still, like I said before, if you would like to change the breeding pattern that almost all of society(human collectivism) conforms to, expect resistance at the idea, and at the extremes war for the form of human identity.
>so it's definitely not being heterosexual that defines our ownExcept that, it does, and since the majority of humans agree on that, I'd even call that a democratic subjective truth. Homosexuals still observe all the right of a sentient human, and for the most part are still completely considered human. But no one will ever say that they can reproduce sexually as humans, and that is a intrinsic part of humanity in most peoples eyes, so even the "activists" that are promoting and helping these things don't really drink the Koolaid.
>It's just the specific traditions we blindly repeated for fear of reprisal by our neighbors and the state.When the monkies beat up the monkey going for the banana, they aren't being evil. If reaching for something hurts the group, and the group responds by stopping the offender, is that not a correct social immune system response? I'm not saying there aren't blind traditions that we follow that we lost the meaning of, I'm just saying that there is a very high possibility that it isn't some random hogwash but probably something that really helped us gain an advantage over every other group of humans with their traditions.
>Hell, if anything I think that blind, fearful acceptance of traditions defines us way more than heterosexualism.I will agree, only if you agree that blindly throwing out traditions without understanding them is equally as bad. Am I misunderstanding this, are you just saying humans follow traditions? That's just what society as a whole is, the collection of traditions of each cultural group expressed in everyday interaction. Language is a tradition, the maths are a tradition, workmenship, engineering, every single facet of society is a single piece of information passed down, grown, refined, expanded, generationally, which is outside the reach of trans/homosexuals unless they concede and breed heterosexually, at which point they need to just human the fuck up and stop trying to promote something that just doesnt work.
>what would you have to fear from people unable to breed?I never said I fear them, I'm pretty sure I stated it, but again. I just want them to shut up and stop demanding special protections and an equal media presence. I don't want them to have a gay character on every show, I don't want to give them free reign over which bathrooms they get to choose which has never been a right any other human has ever gotten.
They exist, they are not a cultural element that furthers society, therefore they should be censored from children, and children should learn that they are free to be whoever they want to be, but that that doesnt mean that they should remove the option for heterosexual reproduction. Proper socialization requires proper propaganda, and other agendas trying to butt in on the londstanding human rearing techniques we've evolved over the span of the human race to elevate our offspring to adult level is causing massive failures in adults across the board from skill level, emotional stability, mental stability, you name it.
>If anything, by forcing them to exist as breeding members of societyEvery human is forced to exist, no one gets a choice, the only other choice is to an hero. Like I said before, we had a working system where gays and transgenders were all part of society and accepted, as long as they kept it private and did not disrupt the social face of humanity. Also, most of them are largely rational humans, and whos to say in 1000, 10,000 or even a million years later these genes won't prove to be useful in creating the next species to evolve from us as asexual beings that are part machine dna etc etc genetic diversity. But in the here and now, those genes are shit(not to exactly say being gay is genetic, but you have to have a brain where that decision is possible, therefore genes) so they should be accepted, but not promoted.
> I mean, you can see why they'd try to remain close to people they love, right?I do, I never said they couldn't interact with their family. I just don't think media should pander to them.
>our narrative that we did all this to further the human race is just that, a narrative. Another narrative is that the human race got furthered because sex feels fucking good and we didn't have decent contraceptives.. Except in ancient Greece we had a plant which acted as one, and then we used it so much we ate it out of existence. Why would we have even used that, if all we wanted was breeding?I never said that the only thing being done to further the human race was breeding, or that breeding at an uncontrolled rate was somehow a great achievement. Every single invention or piece of knowledge that we have obtained, that every one enjoys, is the social child of everyone who has had children. I'll even admit that non-hetero humans have contributed to this, but in a very hetero way of making their projects their child and then passing that into hetero society, the only place that will continue its existence for their future generations. If the total amount of humans breeding is not high enough to replace and add, the total amount of humans in that society is going to shrink, and it will not be able to maintain the structures it built at higher population levels.
If genital stimulation was the peak of pleasure, we'd all be monkies masturbating in the canopy of some jungle. Theres a reason they ate it out of existence, because it was useful, therefore economically/socially viable. You tell me, is there a correlation between the discovery of this drug, the rise of Rome, and the extinction and fall?
>we'll see how important breeding is in our list of priority. Spoiler alert: not very. Hell, I bet we'll discover fucking will trump having a stable relationship, in our list of priorities.And this is why western countries birthrates are plummeting. This is why quality of life is dropping, why societies cannot be maintained anymore, why social programs are going to start to fail and we see more and more dangerous people slip through the weakening social net.
>And? I mean, aren't we enough? We're past 8 billionYes. I do agree on this point. And if you could get every human to agree on this we could all shake hands and begin a true human eugenics program and really improve the stock. But until that point, if you allow your opponents to gain an upper hand on you, you lose by default.
>I mean, if we live badly, what's even the point of breeding anyway? Are we in a secret competition with an alien race and the ones who pops more babies win something or some shit? Yes. The name of these aliens are the universe and time, and they always win. You forget one very simple but very powerful truth. We. Are. Still. Here. Every single dna machine from the beginning of life is dead except for the ones that arent right now, because they put in effort to do so through so many hardships that it would probably take multiple human life spans just to enumerate them.
And honestly we need a few billion people to throw at a planet at a time in the future, need to spread our eggs into more baskets before our planet gets gamma rayed back to primordial ooze or some other catastrophic event.