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Smoked, went to the dentist and discovered it is more likely a god exists than not

- Tue, 14 May 2019 05:44:19 EST IjqeBpm5 No.209671
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There are an infinite number of universes that have formed out of nothingness, existed, and collapsed in on themselves. We might be living in one.

There are also an infinite number of universes in which the lifeforms or meta-lifeforms that evolve in them over an infinite amount of time become at last able to create their own universes.

What sort of world these new gods would create is unknowable. However, we could imagine that there might be some number which create a universe similar to their own, rather than one entirely different.

Those who create a universe similar to their own reinforce the "evolutionary strength" of their universe. Those who do not, erase it.

By closely mirroring the successful conditions that led to them ascending to godhood themselves, the new gods make it more likely that their own universe will itself eventually create its own god-spawn.

And these god-spawn will, of course, create their own universes, and some of them will further reinforce the already-successful model, spawning yet more new gods.

Therefore, the likelihood that we are living in an "evolutionarily successful" universe, which eventually leads to the stage of evolution of its lifeforms ascending to godhood, is strong.

The likelihood that it was formed out of nothingness is small, but possible. The same goes for it being created according to rules that will not result in the ascension to godhood, as these universes would spawn no "children," and be the final descendants of that series of universes.

We can conclude that it is likely a god exists. What is the nature of that god? It's unknowable. Whether it's a guy monitoring a universe server farm, a bearded old man throwing lightning and interfering with the lifeforms, or a transcendental and indifferent All, we probably have no way to know. But it is exceedingly likely that the god exists.
Hugh Soddlewater - Tue, 14 May 2019 17:51:27 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209672 Reply
You know you can get psychedelics from places besides the dentist, right? Nitrous is pretty cool for a mind expanding trip, but if you really want to be able to suss out your philosophical ideas in a bigger head space you'll need to make repeated, controllable voyages. I will say that many of the ideas you reference here have been previously encountered by earlier psychonauts and mystics, and there's a lot of good material out there to help explore the space. I will also say that, removed from the context of your mystical experience, no one will necessarily agree to these sets of ideas unless they are already inclined to or have had similar mystical experiences of their own.
That shouldn't discourage you though; metaphysics is almost inherently one of the loneliest branches of philosophy, as it invites one to recede into one's internal pleroma. So if you wish to communicate these ideas to people in general, you have to develop a vocabulary for translating your experience into the tangible. Eventually skeptics will appear that will try to wittle down any a priori realizations if you can't back them up a posteriorily. It's not necessarily fun or easy work, but someone has to do it.

also, dentists can always tell when you smoke ;)
Rebecca Ceffingwater - Mon, 20 May 2019 14:34:33 EST QWnG1cZd No.209675 Reply
Definitely revisit your ideas sober. You have made a bunch of assumptions which may not hold up is a certain level of complexity/stuff in a universe needed to create a "god"? What defines godlike? How do you know a that the universes which spawn are complex enough? How do you know gods can create universes complex enough to evolve other gods? Or create other gods? Are you assuming something was created by nothing? Are you assuming it still can be? and some which definitely don't time might be infinite but heat death essentially limits it for activity in a universe and so on

Some of these you'll have to accept you assume, some the answers will drive you into new conclusions you wouldn't have envisioned sober or high.
Emma Gummleshaw - Mon, 20 May 2019 16:10:28 EST 2LwLwSlz No.209676 Reply
Agreed except for the thing about heat death. Check out my post about time in the infinity thread for a longer discussion of this idea, >>209614
but from a physics standpoint, if we assume the big bang emerged from a random quantum fluctuation in a larger domain (as is the prevailing theory if you want to keep from going into m-brane/p-brane stuff) then you don't actually need any energy to create a universe, just an extremely vast (non-)amount of nothing for an extremely long period of (non-)time. A heat-dead universe provides exactly those conditions.
Eliza Mongerkad - Thu, 30 May 2019 17:12:01 EST zsQIZH1z No.209677 Reply
This is basically the same as the "We're probably living in a simulation" argument.

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