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- Tue, 09 Jul 2019 21:53:47 EST G9E83KJu No.209719
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Where will social media and the internet be in 10 -20 years?
My guess is we will all be wired into the net, where we cannot tell between online and the real world - constant virtual reality.
We will adapt a hive mind and all consciousness will become one
Fanny Nandlenog - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 21:19:28 EST pI04VVZ/ No.209736 Reply
You don't think it'll become more divisive?
Existence is naturally separate just essence is one
Cedric Cripperville - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 19:37:21 EST 7hg9eMBL No.209738 Reply
I think that's a fair imagination of the future, but in reality I suspect there will be much more resistance to it. Maybe I'm biased and wrong, but it seems like pushing smart phones on the masses as necessary-for-life is one thing, but pushing brain hookups on everyone I imagine would be far more resisted.

As an aside, Elon Musk is working on connecting brains and computers, as are a few other tech companies.
George Cobberwater - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 00:02:29 EST 8aXtgW/P No.209746 Reply
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Lol I forgot the pic cause I'm high and drunk at the same time
Graham Blythespear - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:41:32 EST nQTynWUg No.209748 Reply

We can't really tell the difference between the online world and real live already.

The fusion of it and VR/Augmented reality or even worse direct to brain interface will be a social catastrophe. You heard it here first folks.
Oliver Crollerbure - Fri, 08 May 2020 03:41:53 EST 48+nYRta No.210078 Reply
We still don't nearly know enough about the brain to make this work in the next hundred years. Look at how minor the difference between today and 2010 are. It'll be the same for 2030, just with more ads.
Frederick Turveydock - Fri, 08 May 2020 04:14:39 EST nqxjNpit No.210079 Reply
Everything will be owned by a few media companies and you'll have to pay out the ass for every little service.
Lillian Wellerline - Sat, 09 May 2020 18:49:56 EST AOuUNGAb No.210084 Reply
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The more man moves his wealth to configurations of electricity, the more will be lost if for some reason the electricity disappears.

It is difficult to sufficiently imagine the internet in 10-20 years primarily because man's mind is limited in its connection to the internet. The low bandwidth severely throttles the connection to the brain. Incoming data is restricted to vision or audio and is subject to compression loss, noise, weak signal, et cetera. Outgoing data is restricted to our 10 digits on our fingers assembling 104 symbols on a mechanical board that must be manually pushed. Notice how the expanded set of 3,304 emojis has considerably expanded expression? This is a tiny improvement to the bandwidth of data over the internet. Improvements like this in the next 10-20 years will significantly alter the shape of the connection between man and the internet.

Say for argument the current bandwidth of connection is at only 10% capacity of what is within the potential physical limitations of man and data. As this connection bandwidth approaches 90%-100% capacity will the unique perspectives of the 10,000,000,000 individuals upon earth become more congruent? In other words, will everybody begin to believe the same things as the efficiency of their expression expands? Will each point of view reach the same conclusions? Will man "adapt a hive mind" and will "all consciousness become one" ?

Probably not, but again, it is difficult to imagine sufficiently. Several more factors are involved than just the data capacity of the net alone and must be considered.

First, there is a vast level of nuance within each individual perspective. Many elements in a person's life contribute to the ultimate shape of their soul. The terrain in which a man is born and inhabits determines the hardware their soul must inhabit, things like one's diet, the motions one must perform to maintain life, the accidental chance ravages nature inflicts upon the body and so on. Furthermore, the people with which a man deals builds the operating system of the soul. One's parents, family, friends, associates, even the strangers one meets, the people one experiences through their builds a flavor and bias unique to each individual. Preferences, aesthetics, taste, fashion sense, sense of humor, vocabulary, the domestic software of the soul can emerge from within a lone individual and be completely unique.

Secondly, as individuals with similar values form alliances, the remaining outsiders also form groups with alternative values. Culture, inside jokes, tribal pride, memes, political filter, religious beliefs, schools of philosophy, these software are in constant competition against each other, often completely incompatible with the operating systems of others.

Will there ever be one single superior meme?
Jarvis Fankinhood - Mon, 11 May 2020 02:11:55 EST hcOExBer No.210089 Reply
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Ideally people will realize the value of divergent viewpoints and how different perspectives add to a more whole understanding of reality, because any one perspective can't possibly encompass what is real - especially when truth is subjective and varies depending on the perceiver. Its like triangulation by correlation of different places on Earth to identify its roundness. This idea is basically coined as unity through diversity or the libertarian philosophical concept of equal differences, about striving towards being as equal as possible between all people (and life), while recognizing, respecting, and celebrating our differences. This coupled with freedom are the pillars of liberation, but that's besides the point.

I imagine there will be competing media and social networks, and if the dominant paradigm continues decades from now there will be alot of control of information and psyops and muddying of the waters. Much as the flow of information has become coagulated today, as opposed to a more coherent, yet fractured, congregation of interaction and ideas which preempted the corporate dominance of information on the internet.

It'd be cool to see information on the internet rise to compete with the primary media outlets, which is already occurring in a way, just unfortunately it is disinfo which seems to receive the most attention.

There is some interesting possibilities for decision-making and discussion, it'd be cool to see more official forums of debate surface. Some sci-fi books have cool ideas, like the book series Otherland, with a hackers paradise in Virtual Reality where anything goes. Eventually this power elite created pretty much a new reality within but beyond Virtual Reality. A different book (can't remember the name) had a heavily controlled corporate and authoritarian future where people wore visors with augmented reality and the controllers could actually delete real things from being seen via the visors. The end game in that book was pushing a neural link that a central AI determined what people were exposed to and even what they do, thereby zombiefying the rebelling populace.

As the internet becomes more controlled by authoritarian institutions, heralded by the FCC ruling allowing ISPs to manipulate how users access and use the internet, there may be more local mesh networks formed in which any user can act as a node for others.
Charles Bommleman - Mon, 11 May 2020 04:40:01 EST AOuUNGAb No.210090 Reply
>A different book (can't remember the name) had a heavily controlled corporate and authoritarian future where people wore visors with augmented reality and the controllers could actually delete real things from being seen via the visors. The end game in that book was pushing a neural link that a central AI determined what people were exposed to and even what they do, thereby zombiefying the rebelling populace.

I want to read this book. Jarvis, please remember.
Shit Murddock - Tue, 12 May 2020 04:17:33 EST AOuUNGAb No.210093 Reply
Here's a related quote from an anon on another website:

"Electrons take up physical space. Network infrastructure such as servers, cables and shelter for all that are all physically the Internet. You have no fucking idea how the Internet actually works. The Internet is just a digitized, more complex postal service that is instant. I was just like you in 2015, when I thought YouTube videos would last forever. UH OH!!! THEY NEED MORE SPACE ON THEIR DISC!!! They begin deleting your inactive gaming channel, and websites from back in the day are completely gone, because SURPRISE, no-one is going to manage that shit. All the books throughout history, all the music, all the epic stories, GONE. You think your contributions to the world are any different, and that's cute. In fact, they're more vulnerable, a private entity owns all these servers."

"Back to the original point. There is certainly a maximum load the Internet can handle. It cannot be scaled up once you hit the wall with Moore's Law, which we will soon. You'll run out of bits. Most, if not all current systems run a 64-bit operating system. Soon, there will be so much bullshit to process due to the Internet of Things and possible transhumanist trends in this decade that 64-bit addresses on a 2ghz processor is NOT ENOUGH. If we keep our current network infrastructure, and overpopulation and saturation of these fields will guarantee the benefits to the innovation of these technologies will not be rewarded, the Internet WILL overload its self. There are only 4 million IPv4 addresses, IPv6 had to be invented to fix that. All your archaic servers from before 2010 are already becoming obsolete for IPv6 users. Paper lasts forever, digits do not, mostly because formats GO OBSOLETE and overpopulation will affect that greatly."
Sidney Druzzleway - Wed, 13 May 2020 03:07:15 EST hcOExBer No.210096 Reply
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This calls for a steady refreshing of knowledge, harkening back to the days of spoken word before print. In a way going obsolete is a reoccurence, such as the busy zine culture of the 80s-90s. Or old music records in an old music shop's basement that a lucky DJ may pilfer from the forgotten.

What of state surveillance and datamining to collect and sell information, does that record media on teh web?

Keep in mind the inverse of servers being taken down because of their monetary value or something is people running their own servers to preserve something intrinsically valuable to them? Of course that may be more impermanent than an institution maintaining a server, I mean this point in relation to mesh networks as a libertarian alternative to authoritarian control over the internet.
Martha Docklechune - Sun, 14 Jun 2020 07:34:40 EST pr6GSYq8 No.210160 Reply
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I don't know man, whenever I look at the history of the 20th century I realize that I have no idea how shit is going to evolve. Everyone is most likely wrong about everything either way.

I do think distributed systems are the way to go in a lot of use-cases, but at the moment that's more of a dream i guess.

Meh, That's if shit keeps going as it does now. Although i do agree and I hope selfhosting will become more popular, the current state of internet is pretty messy and plain bad. It's kubernetes on shitty cheap servers all the way down.
Cornelius Funkinbuck - Mon, 20 Jul 2020 02:56:03 EST DjpVXflu No.210242 Reply
I think future generations are going to be so disgusted with this shit that a new "dark age" will emerge. Do people really want their children to have a porn machine replace all of humanity forever? All of thought replaced by a billboard? A brand, coca-cola, carved into their fucking skull? Away with it
User is currently banned from all boards
Ebenezer Murdfoot - Sun, 26 Jul 2020 21:46:51 EST fGHDtkRk No.210257 Reply
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You say this as if we have a choice lol and with a suspicious amount of hope 🤔

Postmodern"ism" is descriptive not prescriptive. It's not saying that it's a /good/ thing that there can be no one grand narrative to life and that ultimate truth is impossible to attain and will be forever. Just that it is a thing, which is clear. We've past childhood's end and no matter how deep we bury our heads in the sands of ideology this will still always be the case. The only thing we can do at this point is buckle up and figure out how to exist, and it's not nearly all bad or even mostly bad, there are some truly amazing things about the time we're living in and I don't think there's any denying that, we just have to figure out how to cope on a societal level with the fact that everyone necessarily lives in a different universe and that while there clearly is a thing we call reality or an actual noumenal universe, as beings-in-the-world we can never attain perfect knowledge of it. The project of philosophy will therefor never end, and no resolution will ever be made. Literally the only thing left to do is embrace it because there is categorically no going back. Even if some one belief system became the sole method of deriving knowledge and all others were put down with force, that wouldn't change reality, and the illusion would require unimaginable force and violence to maintain.

Looking at your other posts I don't know if this sort of discussion is quite your speed. Everybody has different skills and abilities in life and ways they prefer to live it though and for the most part a "live and let live" mentality is the only one we can take in postmodernity. Which is the condition we will be in until the end of humanity whether you like it or not. So there's no shame in not having been exposed to the same things "educated" people have and I wouldn't be nearly this glib if you weren't also a reactionary piece of shit. Literally the only single way forward is to figure out how to cope with this ultimate revelation and continually strive towards answers we know aren't there. No positivist, modernist ideology, be it fascism, communism, or liberal capitalism, or literally ANYTHING that any one person came up with, can possibly save us now.
Ernest Geshkitch - Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:03:23 EST nN2ySUGs No.210261 Reply
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