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- Fri, 25 Oct 2019 10:01:29 EST ywHNbnM1 No.209806
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*Global warming
*Nuclear war
*Collapse of the ecosystem
*Dependence on finite resources
*Designer pathogens
*Resource wars
*Political polarization leading to massive civil unrest
*AI

The Great Filter cometh.

We're not going to be able to think our way out of the hole we've dug for ourselves. Humanity is facing near-term extinction and there's nothing we can do about it.
So how are you dealing with this (asuming you believe it)? Personally I take the George Carlin stance, I no longer have any investment into humanity. I have totally disconnected myself from this world and am totally indifferent to the fate of mankind. I had hopes and dreams for our species, but they were all a pipe dream.
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Hamilton Dunnerworth - Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:00:08 EST 8gq7GAVV No.209807 Reply
AI is our only shot at either fixing this shit, or ensuring some form of self-improving self-aware intelligence survives us.
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Nell Fublinglotch - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 03:21:18 EST hcOExBer No.209808 Reply
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Human beings are extremely adaptive and resilient, we may very well survive the coming inevitable catastrophes. For me it becomes a question of what next? There are so many cultural and socio-economic possibilities, so many stories and beliefs.

>>209807 I don't think technology will save civilization unless also coupled with a dramatic shift of our ways of living.
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Thomas Hellydock - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 12:02:25 EST ywHNbnM1 No.209811 Reply
>>209807
Yeah, AI fixing our shit is the best chance we got, but the chance of getting AI right is close to zero.
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Phineas Bashstock - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 12:02:26 EST bTkVZ0na No.209812 Reply
>>209806
Absolute nonsense, and the only motivation for getting people to believe this is to control them.
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Thomas Blimmleway - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 02:47:03 EST hcOExBer No.209816 Reply
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>>209812
How does believing this make someone easier to control?

If we're talking this soft and hard subjugation, or the carrott and the stick, are ongoing and effective means to maintain control as is. On top of (/ a part of) counterinsurgency stuff.
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Emma Pisslekud - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 08:47:07 EST SRkzta0t No.209821 Reply
>>209816
Any time you're trying to convince people of something that isn't evident, your motives are in question. Why do you want people to believe this? I think it's control. In the absence of any explanation to the contrary and the cartoonishly loud protest you seem to be giving in response to the accusation, I'm pretty confident in my position.
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Wesley Sundlechore - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 14:50:21 EST te/QDo9y No.209822 Reply
>>209821
What? I don't think you're understanding. You're going to have to elaborate about why.
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Polly Gorringpock - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 13:51:12 EST p+7ufF1/ No.209864 Reply
>>209816
I'm not sure he's right about your motives but if people aren't invested in the future of mankind and other people then there's no point in fixing or changing anything. It's all fucked tomorrow so might as well continue short termism. Just happens to suit the old men in charge, and when their middle aged descendents are old and in charge it will suit them. They will always be fine most of them are already prepping for this scenario and will be fine. They can ride it out and then live a short while despite the collapse of the world. If we change that order they might loose everything.

You are advocating complacency.

I try to find a compromise. You're probably right but to live is to struggle.
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Charles Febberstat - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 16:00:26 EST hcOExBer No.209866 Reply
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>>209864
Popular complacency and therefore a boon for the powers that be is from OP's conclusions, not the very real risks of catastrophe and collapse. Their answer is passivity and isolation, but faith in the adaptability of humanity and potential to create new ways of life encourages activity and collusion. What may come depends on all we do as a species overall, individually, and how we come together (and stay apart).

We're doooomed but enjoy life and work towards something better for now and for the future.

I dig Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed as a book about past civilizations and how they inevitably collapsed and using those examples to reflect about our current society and the risk and benefit of global interconnectedness.
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Charles Sablingback - Wed, 11 Dec 2019 15:17:00 EST HIGKCIBr No.209867 Reply
>>209864
People who welcome the collapse of society have never lived in a collapsed society. You need skills that very few people have, that's why there are so many IDPs and such.
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Nicholas Grandridge - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 12:27:18 EST epgWKPNP No.209870 Reply
>>209868
Not everything is about religion and politics, fuck off.
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Martha Blomblebanks - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 23:58:23 EST 8gq7GAVV No.209872 Reply
>>209870
Humanity will go extinct in a few thousand years. That's a fact, and only religious retards and rightwing retards deny it.
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Sidney Seckleshit - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:20:10 EST te/QDo9y No.209874 Reply
>>209872
Come on now that's not a fact. Humanity is highly adaptable, don't sell us short.
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William Mimmlefoot - Tue, 17 Dec 2019 19:39:52 EST 8gq7GAVV No.209876 Reply
>>209874
Adaptability is irrelevant. We've past the point where civilization cannot be rebuild beyond medieval technology if everything fails.

All resources needed to come back from a global collapse are already used up. There are no easily accessable metals and coal left to reinvent the Industrial Revolution.
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Augustus Nucklebidge - Fri, 20 Dec 2019 12:02:47 EST gWRZ+vin No.209877 Reply
>>209876
We will have to solve new problems then. Maybe not having an industrial revolution is good because we'll be forced to find new ways to achieve old effects or which things we have to let go of entirely. Maybe without those one use resources we'll need something sustainable from the outset and maybe that's good. Maybe we will be forced to use the resources we gave in increasingly clever ways. We will still have a better understanding of science and medicine and those will help us.

The knowledge won't vanish so as long as people start looking to find sustainable options immediately the knowledge we have won't all be gone. We can use it for a leg up.

Knowing we had things and could do things will help. It's easier to dream up technology when there is something you're trying to achieve. We probably can't come back but we need to take a different path anyway. If there is an endpoint where we can live in the comfort we have now with sustainable technology then its only an issue if there is no possible intermediate path that doesn't rely on those resources. Maybe there isn't but we won't know until it becomes the easiest or only route. If such a state cannot exist then we will eventually collapse anyway.

Not industrial is a big movement of the goalposts from "Go extinct" a medieval society can still dominate the world.
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Walter Findersine - Fri, 27 Dec 2019 22:34:36 EST yhtu+z4u No.209891 Reply
>>209876

Dude the coal might be gone, but the metal at least is already out of the ground, legit sitting there, no-slag. Like, we already mined the metal, and it's all over the place you would just have to walk up and grab it. Like there are cars and other metal objects all over the place just sitting there
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John Gebblestone - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:40:27 EST JyDTI0YA No.209925 Reply
>>209876
Mines don't necessarily close because they've 'been used up'. They close because of economic factors. The cost of governmental regulatory bodies, the cost of labor, the price of various commodities floated on the global market. A pre-industrial level society doesn't have to worry about any of those factors during the road to industrialization, they only have to worry about those factors in the post-industrial stage of development.
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Jenny Pickbury - Wed, 05 Feb 2020 10:56:43 EST HIc9yngr No.209943 Reply
>>209942
I think you're off by a few orders of magnitude. Millenium is 1,000, and the most recent mass extinction appears to be tens of millions or years old. Homo sapien was around for the quarternary extinction, however fossil evidence seems to suggest that extinction was at least partially anthropogenic; it was also just a small extinction event, not massive one like the cretaceous-paleogene extinction event.
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Jenny Pickbury - Wed, 05 Feb 2020 11:04:24 EST HIc9yngr No.209944 Reply
>>209942
Also, we dont have very much history at all. Do you know your great-great-great-grandparents? What were their names? What did they do? With whom were they friends? What community did they live in? What did they wear? Family history is the entirety of human history, and the stuff that gets published in media is just a small fraction of that.
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Thomas Monkinshaw - Wed, 05 Feb 2020 12:01:29 EST hcOExBer No.209945 Reply
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>>209943
That's quite intriguing. Please, regal us with more info about extinction events.
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Cedric Pumblewutch - Mon, 01 Jun 2020 18:44:18 EST 9tK6Y3mk No.210148 Reply
>>209806
Fuck, my thread just keeps getting more and more relevant in 2020.
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borgia@/ 92 - Thu, 18 Jun 2020 21:41:58 EST 0oNhfLGW No.210174 Reply
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>>209806
>hopes and dreams for our species, but they were all a pipe dream.
you wonna place the collection in some malfortune?
a pipe dream? like your feeding some furball a bad idea to not cry about?
> but they were all a pipe dream.
> do you bleive in minasota?
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Cornelius Funkinbuck - Mon, 20 Jul 2020 02:50:56 EST DjpVXflu No.210239 Reply
>>210148
excellerant

I think that God has a plan OP. I really hope it involves a benefit for myself, but wonder
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