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- Mon, 04 May 2020 20:27:01 EST UL375cts No.210067
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all of reality is a prison. the question is, whats outside this prison? the thing that made it is something way beyond us.
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Basil Sendlesark - Wed, 06 May 2020 20:36:26 EST 8gq7GAVV No.210068 Reply
>>210067
>whats outside this prison?
More reality.

You fucking retard.
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Sidney Druzzleway - Wed, 13 May 2020 02:49:19 EST hcOExBer No.210095 Reply
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>>210094
Reality is like the field of play. The boundaries of possibility of which we do not know the bounds. If the boundary is beyond any one life experience then is it a prison? Even if there will be a definable ultimate extremity of everything to discover and know, or if humanity is even capable of arriving at that horizon?
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Betsy Bunman - Thu, 14 May 2020 18:03:29 EST 147JskhQ No.210099 Reply
>>210094

Isn't the world the brain in the vat experience reality? Don't be so prejudiced.

It's still something the brain in question has to deal with, and still something that's happening on some physical level.
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John Gellywell - Fri, 15 May 2020 07:52:51 EST UcZcOgV6 No.210106 Reply
>>210099
>Isn't the world the brain in the vat experience reality?

That was the argument, then the question was how do we know we're not a brain in a vat

A brain in a vat in my opinion is a prison, because none of it is actually reality.

Think of a person in a coma have a dream and he's 100% convinced he's not in a coma and everything is real until he wakes up.
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Beatrice Bebblewell - Fri, 15 May 2020 19:29:04 EST NOIiRvb5 No.210109 Reply
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>>210106
That's also the shadows on the wall in Plato's cave allegory. There's probably an endless next level of sensing what is real, from the shadows of puppets on the wall to the world outside and beyond. I also saw this idea reformulated in the graphic novel "unflatening", a part about how a one dimensional perciever is taught to see two-dimensions by a two-dimensional circle, who scofs at the speculation about three dimensions, and so on.
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Ebenezer Brendlebanks - Sun, 17 May 2020 15:03:24 EST UcZcOgV6 No.210117 Reply
>>210109
I never did fully understand that puppet show's point or how that could relate to modern times
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Polly Toothall - Sun, 17 May 2020 18:43:17 EST p+7ufF1/ No.210118 Reply
>>210117
Now that we know how our sense and mind work it actually sense in a different more literal context.

A cloud of particles resists me being pulled through it by gravity. I feel that resistance and my eyes, 2 little points receive some photons. I see a chair. I don't see the particles. I see a solid object. That's fine for my purposes but it's just a simplified shadow. We build the entire universe up out of a tiny window of perception using a mix of the stuff built into our brain and the stuff we learned through the tiny window. We see a tiny bit of the electro magnetic spectrum and hear a few frequences. There are things too big and too small for us to process with our sensory apparatus properly. Distances and speeds both too big and too small.
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Graham Chuddlefock - Mon, 18 May 2020 05:39:53 EST hcOExBer No.210120 Reply
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>>210118
Wow, that's a pretty nice and informative summation. The bounds of our perception are not only limiting by what we sense (or don't), our body and dna, but also by our interpretations informing by our identities, experiences, cultures, and what-have-you. Our journey as I expect all life is is approaching an ever-receding horizon.

Imagine the gulf between human interpretation and all other animals on earth, similarly in comparison to plant-life, to bacteria, and imagine the gulf humans must have with perhaps other "higher" life-forms.

Still, despite our bodily limitations there's plenty of different interpretations which constantly inform us reciprocally. Hence ancient teachings around martial arts or shamanism or metaphysical understandings or spirituality and faith. Science has not yet approached explanations for magic or extraordinary feats, nor understood the inner workings of the brain and the powers of belief.

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