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What books to become the guru by Lillian Cumblelun - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 00:53:52 EST ID:JEBLvmCI No.886143 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What books should I buy (as I never seem to finish books on my phone or kobo)to help me become an expert psychonaugh and so all my trips arnt just for fun or self relaxation thoughts or just wacky ideas.

Example Terrence McKenna suggested reading Jung and alchemy before tripping as it will put some good ideas in your mind before hand.

Other books I've seen which I'd like suggestions on.

>The psychedelics explorers guide by James fadiman
>Programin and meta programming-John c Lilly(read bits of this but then put it down,is it worth buying)
>Jung and alchemy

Are timothy leary's books worth reading ? I've read his Tibetan book of the dead what wasn't so bad.I also have the real tibetan book of the dead which I found to be a very difficult read and should really get back into it.

Another book I think I seen on maps.org was about a doctor (psychologist maybe) who was using psychedelic drugs for one on one session with patients to help them with their problems.I wouldn't mind finding somthing like that.
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Walter Handlespear - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 03:01:30 EST ID:I24R9tiJ No.886146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.maps.org/research-archive/ritesofpassage/lsdhandbook.pdf

http://www.pnas.org/content/113/17/4853

Alan Watts stuff

>The psychedelics explorers guide by James fadiman

Yes read this.
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Sidney Popperson - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 04:23:49 EST ID:betqZlvy No.886149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://books.google.com/books/about/Be_Here_Now.html?id=gwOe0yz6Fa0C&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&q&f=false

Be Here Now by Richard Alpert
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Cedric Cunnerdare - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 05:21:41 EST ID:li3MMiSE No.886153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I recommend all three of the above posts and a few others

>DMT The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman (lots of info on how DMT wors in the brain (both well established facts and theories) as well as many very interesting trip reports.

>Supernaturals by Graham Hancock (if you are interested in entity contact and related subjects this is the book for you. Read all 400 pages in one night back in college as the peak of my early psychedelic research and it changed my life)

>The Cosmic Serpent by Jeremy Narby (lots of speculative theories as well as well established facts about DNA)

>Shambhala The Sacred Path of the Warrior by Chogyam Trungpa (this book is really good material on how to attain your inner peace)

>The Art of Communicating by Thich Nhat Hahn (same basic idea as the above book)

>Art Psalms by Alex Grey (great artbook, loads of psychedelic imagery and accompanying text about esoteric subjects)

>The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley (last but not least, an account of one man's first trip with LSD, and the beauty he sees inherent in the world. Theories on the nature of the mind flower from these observations)
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Cedric Cunnerdare - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 05:23:42 EST ID:li3MMiSE No.886154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886153
Ah yes I forgot, read the 4 Vedas, Tibetan and Egyptian Books of the Dead would be good, and The Epic of Gilgamesh (just for fun).
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Basil Pendlegold - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 09:03:34 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.886155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Doors of Perception. Just some general introductions to philosophy books. Not much else. Maybe some McKenna books if you take it with a little salt.

Not much else, most psychedelic 'literature' is just fucking retarded Captain Obvious self-help, or worse, straight up schizophrenic tinfoil shit.


What the hell did I take? by Clara Hinnerbad - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 12:18:47 EST ID:FTpXBRO5 No.886026 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Fellas, last night I went on the grungiest, dirtiest, most chemical-ish and artificial feeling trip I've ever had, without being considered a "bad trip"
Like I was watching the trip play out on an old VHS tapes I found in a dusty attic. I felt incredibly dumb, and still do slightly, and we were all laughing at nothing like retards the whole time. My face hurts from all the laughing. Multiple times I felt like I had "come to" in the middle of the trip to find myself laughing without thinking anything was funny. The fuck did I take?
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Sidney Bleblingstire - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 14:26:18 EST ID:7OBsp/5q No.886094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886026
A lot of psychedelics, at lighter doses, can cause me to find stupid shit or nothing at all somehow funny. As a matter of fact, I've found myself most often laughing at dark and (what most consider) inappropriate things most sober people would judge me for finding any comedy in. I remember taking a small dose of acid once with a friend and the TV was on while we waited to come up. Some starving African children with distended bellies and shit came on and I found the concept of how we go over and make commercials with people who actually need some help just to survive, and rather than just give the mother fuckers food or help in the commercial, some rich white fuck attempts to manipulate you with shame to help them out and the kids used to do it probably wind up getting recruited as a child soldier or something a year down the road (provided they actually received aid and shit).

It wasn't the fact that all that bad stuff happens, but rather the combination of it all and how it came together was such an absurdity that I found it hilarious and laughed for a good few minutes about it.

I mean, if what you took was on a tab or blotter it's a definite possibility that you got something other than what you were told you were being sold. However, going from my own personal experience here, psychedelics can sometimes feel dirty like that and cause you to be more dumb than you'd typically expect if you haven't eaten right or are fairly dehydrated or otherwise undernourished. This really goes for any drug. If I don't eat or drink right when I take vyvanse, for instance, I actually get really zony and would prefer to do nothing more than simply stare at the wall with my mind completely silent. That, or sleepy. Along with being zony comes some head fog and a really dirty feeling in my body. Kind of like a body high, but instead it's just feeling like shit.
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Jarvis Panningsack - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 14:48:05 EST ID:RNAi26CY No.886095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886094

Skirting the 50 scale electric anything is doubt.
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Awe' !!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:06:55 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.886096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886094
The hardest I've ever laughed which was more akin to a scream of death than a laugh, but it was a laugh, was when I was coming up on a trip to the gates of dawn and remembered a video of Russian soldiers slitting throats to some guerillas and laughing at it. I found their utter inability to feel empathy to those who are dying the most hilarious thing in the world. I laughed so hard my whole body was doing some weird gymnastics as a manifestation of the laugh and very soon I went off the deep end.
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Sidney Popperson - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 04:29:40 EST ID:betqZlvy No.886150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886081
actually it does sound pretty close to salvia divinorium
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Sophie Chushpin - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 04:47:41 EST ID:RNAi26CY No.886152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886150

I prefer to call it "jughead," or "you shouldn't be here..guards!"


Acid has made me no longer human and I hate it by William Brillystock - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 04:59:55 EST ID:7sMeuPDd No.884903 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I had some rather profound acid experiences and now i'm pretty sure were in a matrix. I have nothing to say to people anymore because its all I can think about. People are like little machines that express everything they are in everything they do. It hurts to even think like this. It has no benefit to me because I'm a simple machine in a chamber of reflection too. I am seemingly incapable of true awareness and it makes me want to just go into a tiny box of a narrow consistant world perception like everyone else does because character is nothing if you're merely observing the world from the frame of either reflective morality, or us just being animals/machines, or us just being programs. God help me.
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Rebecca Bondledock - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:03:31 EST ID:7OBsp/5q No.886137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886135
Fuck it's like I'm not even reading your post right now man, whoa
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Esther Binningnot - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:10:39 EST ID:2n6D8qNT No.886138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886137

This guy gets it.
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Sophie Pockspear - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:38:32 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.886139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886137

You're awesome. i hope you know that.
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Walter Handlespear - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 03:07:12 EST ID:I24R9tiJ No.886147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886135
This guy doesn't get it.

It does exist because even if it's a simulation, something gives rise TO that simulation. You're experiencing the product of something, and that experience exists, whether it's a simulation or not.
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Sophie Chushpin - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 04:44:32 EST ID:RNAi26CY No.886151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886147

Of course it exists, just not as a tablecloth.


fuck by Alice Greenbury - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:19:16 EST ID:F0/amjun No.886071 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I just smoked DMT.

After a minute of having my eyes closed, I felt something strange. I jolted up and opened my eyes. Everything looked fucked, and my arms looked like they were made of puddy. I was convinced I was dying.

I stared at my computer monitor and kept repeating "I'm not dying" over and over again. I felt horrible, i considered screaming. Instead I kept repeating that i was "not dying" unconvincingly. After 10 minutes, everything turned back to normal. I think I just forced myself out of ego death. I feel normal now, physically and mentally.

Any similar experiences? I'm not smoking DMT ever again after this cuz FUCK that was literally the scariest thing I ever went through.
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Molly Turveyway - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 06:18:55 EST ID:BmAsYlLN No.886088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886086
good joke dude
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Doris Pallymire - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 06:51:10 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.886089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886088
:) im glad someone got it.
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Rebecca Murdridge - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 09:44:40 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.886090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886071
Well, I didn't experience what you experienced, but in my opinion, a death experience is completely different from an ego death experience. Ego death has nothing to do with "death", ego death is all about losing yourself, melting into the environment, like the LHC shit in NGE.
You just experienced yourself deluding yourself you were dying.
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Sidney Bleblingstire - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 14:02:51 EST ID:7OBsp/5q No.886093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886071
Sucks man, glad you're back to feeling normal. First things first... I know you said you've smoked DMT like 15 times now, but how well do you trust the person who supplied it to you in regards to there being some impurities or whatever? Given you've had fairly consistent DMT trips in the past and your reaction to smoking it was so different, the two most likely reasons are the drug being adultered or you being in a significantly different physiological state than when you took it the other times (either sick, been using different supplements or ceasing to use them, on some kind of OTC or pharmaceutical or active metabolites of them are still in your system, or stress in general).

I've been certain that I was dying on hallucinogens a fair number of times more than I'd care for (usually from dirty dissociatives like DXM--MXE and various other aryl's don't seem to cause it). My method of handling that situation and myself is the same as it is in basically any situation where you mentally/psychologically really believe you're going to die (alternatively, feel like something terrible is going to happen/a lot of anxiety and sense of impending doom or wrongness) or in actual dangerous situations. What ever happens, happens. The only option offering any kind of salvation for you is to just quit trying to hang on and completely let go.

See, the beautiful part about things is that if you wind up actually dying, you've already surrendered to the fact that the reality/situation you are experiencing is out of your control and that if something negative winds up happening, we know whatever happens will happen. Even if there was a chance, a possibility for things to turn out differently, they didn't, can't, and won't. Honestly, you're only going to be helping yourself perform better if you let go because you aren't too busy panicking or worrying. Or, in the case of feeling like you are, in fact, dying from taking a psy, you're pretty much just going to wind up not dying (unless you're fuckin with nbome or some shit) and recovering once the trip is over. And, if not, it's not like you know when you'll actually die anyway. People die…
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Phyllis Biffingwick - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 01:09:57 EST ID:RRdnZe4T No.886144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886085
so... Mark Zuckerberg is a robot?

i fucking knew it


Raticate used Hyperfang by Esther Brungerworth - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:50:21 EST ID:7UpK6wM2 No.886109 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ratatat is Shpongle for normies.
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Sophie Pockspear - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:05:58 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.886110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886109
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Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:40:20 EST ID:cXxtKrC+ No.886140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886109
Consider this:
Shpongle is auditory candy for psychedelic babies.
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James Druddletire - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 00:10:18 EST ID:XpIqh0tE No.886142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
is it?
Tacobel Canon was sort of nicely done but I haven't really listened to them
Shpongle puts on a great live show but isn't crazy intense or complex either
What do you mean, OP?
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David Hallerfug - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 04:03:15 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.886148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886140
Totally agree, along with phish, grateful dead, disco biscuits, etc.


TECHNOLOGY IS THE ANSWER by Cedric Pittway - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 06:36:24 EST ID:4DHDY7x/ No.886119 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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AND YOU'RE ALL WRONG

discuss
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Basil Clayspear - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:06:45 EST ID:RNAi26CY No.886125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886124

Up there.
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Edward Hobblespear - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:39:39 EST ID:I24R9tiJ No.886126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886119
Humans are already biologically based technology to begin with.
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Sidney Pobblelick - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:24:26 EST ID:tT7oTfeI No.886132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886125
i reached into the abyss and only found myself
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Basil Clayspear - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:24:23 EST ID:RNAi26CY No.886133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886132

Screaming back, like a banshee, it walls.
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Dextrolord - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:58:41 EST ID:wLqOkSOX No.886141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886133
Oh my God I knew I recognized that shit!! It's dark forces right?!?! The second was one of my favorite games for years for real


First DMT experience by Lydia Bicklefane - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:12:44 EST ID:oBDMfZcT No.886127 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I was with some friends this weekend. I've been on a self-discovery journey for the past couple of months and met with these very likeable fellows whom I've become really close with. Yesterday morning after having taken acid and after a two hour long jam session at my friend's place, we decided to smoke some DMT. It was my first time, and I'd like to share my experience with you guys, and I'd also like to read you guys' first experience with DMT.
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Basil Clayspear - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:21:06 EST ID:RNAi26CY No.886128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886127

In my experience the effects are greatly diminished in the vicinity of Ysalamiri.
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Lydia Bicklefane - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:23:47 EST ID:oBDMfZcT No.886129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So on with it:

After my friend explained to me the instructions on how to smoke the pipe, I prepared myself on his couch and to a really long and strong first hit. I could feel it instantly. I held it in for a good while, trying my hardest not to cough it out, and took it like a champ. I tried to take a second hit but by the time the pipe was in my mouth I was already off to another place.

My body felt heavy and I left the pipe on the table and laid back on the couch. My friend had told me to close my eyes but I really didn't have time to do anything. As soon as I laid back, everything fell into place. Perfect geometry, the room became white and green and orange squares, almost like I was inside a videogame. Bleeps and bloops in my head whenever I moved. My friends had ceased to be my friends and were suddenly cardboard cutouts of my friends, all square and geometrical.

I felt like I'd seen all of this in a dream before, it all felt so familiar, and suddenly I came to the realization that I'd been there, I'd always been there, and I'd always been everywhere else. I realized I existed in time simultaneously in the past and present and future. I realized my friends, they were me also. And the table. And the room. "I am God", I thought. "I am everything". The realization came to me in an odd manner, because it's as if I'd always known it and it was dumb of me to think about that now. I looked at him, then I looked at her, then at the guitar next to me on the couch, then at him again, then at her, at the guitar, at him, her, guitar, him, her, guitar, him, her, guitar, ad infinitum. I was stuck. I was stuck in an endless loop. Moreover, I'd always been stuck in that loop. This had always been my reality, looking to and fro forever, sitting in that silent room with these reflections of me. It felt like they were there just to comfort me, but not really interested on what I was thinking. It was scary, to say the least.
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Lydia Bicklefane - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:41:35 EST ID:oBDMfZcT No.886130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886128
What is Ysalamiri?

>>886129
Cont.

"Are we really here?" I asked my friend, who was to my left.

"Yes." He replied. "We've always been here". I laid back again on the couch. Funny, huh? He knew it too. About the loop, I mean. He knew we'd always been there in that loop and it was nothing strange. I'd asked that question to him all the time, actually. Infinite times. I looked at him, her, guitar, again, forever.

"What am I doing?" I thought. "Is this where I've always been? That's dumb. I have a life. I have a job and friends and family and a girlfriend. This can't be where I've always been. I don't want to be here forever. I want to go someplace else". So I tried to stand up and go somewhere, but as soon as I even thought about it, everything sort of glitched, error sounds like when your computer freezes. Kkrrrrssshhct bllllep bloop. And I was back into place, in my eternal loop.

"Are you real"? I asked my friend.

"Yes." He replied. "I've always been here". Again, a loop. It felt like he was there just to comfort me and tell me everything was real and alright when it really wasn't. Suddenly, the need to get out of the loop felt stronger and stronger. Him, her, guitar. Fuck this, this is dumb. I want out. I want to see thing. Fuck all of this.
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Sidney Pobblelick - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:18:06 EST ID:tT7oTfeI No.886131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886130
time loops sure are strange, my explanation is that on psychedelics time dilates, and it can dilate to the point where the conscious experience becomes recursive, ive had it happen a few times including the "i want out" freakout, I think, with experience, these mind bending experiences can be handled a lot better, knowing you will come out the other side even though everything is repeating is very comforting, the first few times, are always rough lol.

very mind bending experience you had OP, great report
much love and SLAYER


Trip preparation by Sidney Greenville - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:00:14 EST ID:vIxDV8++ No.886111 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello my fellow psy users.

I was just wondering about how you guys prepare for a trip. I'd like to learn more so I can get the most out of mine.
Do you guys have any rituals? Do you just pop a few tabs like nothing happened? Please share
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Sophie Pockspear - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:48:18 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.886113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886111

Heres my ritual.

Before i pop any tabs, i clean my entire apartment, top to bottom, bed sheets, couch cushions, clothes clean all the dust off everything, mop floors vaccum etc. have dinner/lunch at midday by the time im done with my dinner i'll bring in my washing, hang it all up organise it all.

Then i take whatever im taking then jump into the shower. by the time i come out of the shower ill be starting up, then when i come out of the shower my entire apartment will be spotless, everything smells great, ill probably grab my headphones or ill throw on a movie and then i look around and see this spotless enviornment, if i lay down in bed it smells so clean and fresh and its just a super amazing feeling man i think writing this is giving me flashbacks.

seriously man, try it.
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Ernest Dosslefield - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 03:30:00 EST ID:2mhzEgtZ No.886116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886113
nice try mom but you can’t make me clean my room that easily
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Albert Grandhall - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 03:44:10 EST ID:MX1/33Sa No.886117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886113
I do most of this, clean is good. Then get all the substances ready beforehand: acid, weed, nitrous, benzo, ketamine. I work out during the day, shower, vape weed and attempt to meditate just before dropping and at various points during the trip. Meditation tends to bring on the visuals and entity contact with lower doses. I usually drop alone, about an hour before dark, and spend most of the trip in darkness and lying down.
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Basil Clayspear - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 07:20:27 EST ID:RNAi26CY No.886121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886111

Preparation? What preparation?

Fly by the rug.
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Edward Debberman - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 08:02:09 EST ID:EEvGdHDL No.886123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886113
Same here, I also grab my favourite food earlier in the day, prepare some compote and cook something to heat for the comedown, put a good beer in the fridge.
I also make a playlist of stuff I want to listen to in case I forget.


BWT by Hamilton Sopperkidge - Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:51:08 EST ID:DrnI870Y No.872079 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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bump while mothafuckin trippin
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Krungledon Fergalid - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:43:36 EST ID:n51/Qztl No.885901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885900
BUMP
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Graham Wurryway - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 15:59:13 EST ID:Aht0Ch+u No.885903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885866
>>885873
The usual lazy evening, huh. Classic.
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Shit Borringstuck - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 23:06:25 EST ID:DKbjtDtU No.886047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
bump
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Shit Borringstuck - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 23:09:36 EST ID:DKbjtDtU No.886048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Had 20mg of 4-AcO-DMT at 12:30AM this morning.

Still feeling the rush of love, empathy, euphoria, and meta thought.
I'll share an excerpt from my notes:
>Loss of human life…

… Such a cost. (For prohibition, a "drug-free" society)

This is a war that cannot be won.
A war fought to save lives will always fail,
Even if it be figurative, as it seems (in intention) in this case,
As lives are lost when wars are fought,
It is self-defeating.
Here we lose the lives of drug users, distributors, manufacturers, and peace officers alike,
As well as the ones who were close to them, sometimes.
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Thomas Soddledare - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 04:06:40 EST ID:OZuoSKpa No.886118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>tfw micro dosed with a quarter tab and it's perfect


Trippie Memes by Hamilton Gonderfuck - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:30:15 EST ID:DhENVwM/ No.886033 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Y'all gone give me ur best tripe lulu plz
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Awe' !!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:10:22 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.886098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Awe' !!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:11:39 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.886099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Awe' !!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:12:32 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.886100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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James Grandlock - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:21:36 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.886108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Edward Hobblespear - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 03:05:05 EST ID:I24R9tiJ No.886115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE


Any experiences with degraded 4-AcO-DMT? by Fuck Turveyfield - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:51:37 EST ID:BCS4aSYt No.886069 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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A few months ago my latest batch of 4-AcO-DMT started to degrade. It was already slightly tan when it arrived but it got darker over time and eventually turned into this dark brown goo. I did some research on it and saw mixed experiences, so I decided to hang on to it. I made the dumbfuck mistake of taking it on a whim one night, already drunk and in a shit mood from previous events earlier in the day, didn't bother to try and measure it out, and I got what I deserved: a trip from hell, the first I'd ever call "bad." I've taken up to 75mg of 4-AcO-DMT and I've had a few bumpy rides but nothing compared to that night. It bent me over and spanked my ass, rightfully so.

They say if you don't respect the drugs, then they won't respect you, but I always have to learn things the hard way. Still, despite my idiocy, the feel of the trip was generally different than all my other experiences with 4-AcO-DMT and 4-HO-MET. The visuals were different than usual. They were very disorganized and didn't have the geometric structure I've seen on psilacetin. I also writhed around a lot more than usual - 4-AcO-DMT usually makes feeling of being in a body really weird at the best of times IME but I could not stop writhing around in my bed for the entire trip.

I think I read that 4-AcO-DMT degrades into psilocin, but I've never had shrooms so I can't compare. At any rate, if you have experiences with degraded 4-AcO-DMT, feel free to share.
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Jarvis Panningsack - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:28:57 EST ID:RNAi26CY No.886101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lillian Fanstone - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:40:59 EST ID:BPf5wvpP No.886102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>already drunk and in a shit mood

there ya go lad


"bad" trips? by Sidney Harryforth - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:50:36 EST ID:YKuwccbj No.885979 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i'm not too versed in "bad" experiences but i understand that the outcome is usually good regardless of what is happening in the moment but is it possible to go an entire life time without having a "bad" trip?
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Sophie Dartwater - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:00:23 EST ID:287xXRg4 No.886036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Absolutely possible. /Thread
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Shit Cuckleforth - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:15:28 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.886039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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if you are the samefag that pulls in at other threads with your remarks about how it's done, i salute you sir.
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Cyril Gossleshit - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:36:22 EST ID:JGx8VMaV No.886075 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Are you guys speaking some kind of code language or something? Because neither of your posts make any sense to me whatsoever. Somebody clarify their meaning for me because this has been bothering me.

What does "pulling in at other threads" mean? And what does burning away notions and eating chips have to do with anything congratulatory?
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Doris Pallymire - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:47:18 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.886076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886075

Yeah ive been trying to figure it out too.

So heres what ive got so far.

Chips are like the quientessential lazy food right? like people will often mock others like "your keyboard is probably caked in cheeto dust xD". So maybe they are trying to say "forget about the idea of good and bad and just give in and become a lazy person"

Pulling in at other threads i think they are trying to say like "come in and post on other threads"? Like when you pull into something its like when you are driving, "pull into the drive through mate and get us some mcnuggets" or "pull into this driveway here"

So maybe they feel that the chips guy is some guy who goes into other threads and sets things straight?
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Graham Hullerway - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:38:58 EST ID:O61PecZf No.886091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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For me starting out I tried(still do) not to think about it as "good" or "bad" just different levels of intensity and comfort or discomfort cause by it. Honestly I kinda always figured if I came out the other side of a dose, especially mega doses, not seriously injured or in jail then it couldn't be that bad.


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