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Discord Now Fully Linked With 420chan IRC

what the fuck is this?

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- Sat, 09 Nov 2019 23:12:40 EST hIxdjMgm No.899866
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I had some drunk guy stumble into my work talking about some "ancient fruit" that he tripped off of and "saw god." He said he would be back and came back later and gas me this.

What the fuck am I looking at?
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Surreality

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- Thu, 24 Oct 2019 23:50:01 EST uluTeg6W No.899442
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One thing I frequently encounter on LSD is the frightening sense of the transcendant other. On LSD, it never shows itself, but I can feel it's presence. The room suddenly feels very heavy, and something in your mind starts screaming "This isn't right, this isn't right!". The edges of everything start to look digital, like real life isn't real, and everything just feels very heavy.

Has anyone else had this experience? It's rare i have a good trip on acid, it's always terrifying reality-bending comprehensions. I've had the standard ego death of realizing we're all the same atoms, we all come from the same place, everything alive. But this sense of dread, the terrifying nature of reality when the curtains are pulled back, that feels to me much more important than the jovial vibes and ego deaths of yester year. There is something sinister lurking in the experience of reality. What do you all think?

Pic related is the closest representation I could find as to the experience of meeting the transcendant other.
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Phineas Guddlebanks - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 23:23:03 EST tKId2kUb No.900475 Reply
>>899442
>>899474
Holy shit relatable. I've had a few terrible experiences like this where it was like I saw the true face of reality laid bare and it was awful. I guess it was the black iron prison.
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Fucking Meppertack - Wed, 11 Dec 2019 11:57:07 EST rACA6+zv No.900523 Reply
>>900519

You haven't lived very long if you truly believe that. Think of it in terms of this life; many people create their on personal hell on earth, many are born into a kind of hell, or just fall into it by some act of fate/chance. Some find their way out of it and if not fully embrace life and live in a kind of heaven, at least climb out of the pit they fell into. Where we go after we die, well there's lots of ideas, but right here on earth you can certainly find yourself in a place very much like hell, make no mistake about it. Whatever your particular beliefs are, there's no disputing how dark and horrifying this life can be, but just as dark necessitates light, in needs out, up needs down etc. Those dark pits are their own indication that their are heights just as high as the pits are low, and that we can all take solace in.

Cannabidiols and Psychedelics

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- Wed, 11 Dec 2019 05:36:05 EST 8yO2AqKX No.900518
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Has anyone tried a combination of a psychedelic, and then trying to use CBD to alleviate the effects? There's a few reasons I ask:

  • I've suffered from psychosis/schizophrenia, cannabidiols reduced my psychiatric symptoms to nothing.

  • Curious about any correlations between hallucinogens and madness (psychosis)

  • Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder apparently can be experienced without the use of psychedelics, not surprising considering my own experiences with psychosis. I am quite sure cannabidiols would reduce the symptoms of HPPD to nothing over time, which makes me think a very high dosage of CBD could reduce the effects of a psychedelic

  • I have some concern that cannabidiols could interfere with the psyche long term if taken with a psychedelic. This is just a feeling without any real substance though.

Let me know what you think
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Archie Clidgehin - Wed, 11 Dec 2019 10:54:11 EST 337IwFP3 No.900520 Reply
>>900518
>I have some concern that cannabidiols could interfere with the psyche long term if taken with a psychedelic.
Could you elaborate here? In what way do you think it's going to interfere with your psyche long term exactly?
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Nell Droffinggold - Wed, 11 Dec 2019 11:24:06 EST kfiGoZKH No.900522 Reply
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>>900518
>Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder apparently can be experienced without the use of psychedelics
That's true, it can be the result of using any hallucinogenic substance, psychedelics aren't the only ones. However, the second half of your sentence
>not surprising considering my own experiences with psychosis
makes me think you're referring to hallucinations you've experienced in psychotic states. Then they're not HPPD, as they're caused by your mental condition and not past use of hallucinogens.

> I am quite sure cannabidiols would reduce the symptoms of HPPD to nothing over time
Don't have much basis for my belief concerning this, but I doubt that would be the case. We (as in humanity/science) don't know how HPPD is caused and how (if) it manifests structurally in the brain and how that causes the person to perceive hallucinations.
I never consumed pure CBD or CBD weed, but smoking regular weed intensifies HPPD, probably due to the array of actually psychoactive compounds, so the potentially HPPD decreasing effect of CBD (if there is one) gets overpowered.

Reality

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- Tue, 03 Dec 2019 19:29:25 EST c+ot2hXd No.900404
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>the earth isn't real
I can't argue against this and it makes me metaphysically anxious...
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Eugene Pevingridge - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 07:46:27 EST qiMw6MQG No.900508 Reply
>>900501
Descartes and Kant are both retarded when it comes to their ideas about God, but ignoring that they still offer some insight into solipsism and whatnot. It's just a starting point for OP to launch off of, hopefully leading him to more research into related philosophers in general... mostly Existentialists and even a few of the Postmodern philosophers like Jean Baudrillard.

Honestly, Baudrillard will probably just add to the existential angst and uncertainty, but I find his ideas to be some of the most interesting given the state of the world and technology today.
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Hannah Shittingfuck - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:48:58 EST LywZUfmH No.900509 Reply
Yeah, Descartes is fulla shit. "You are the only truth that you can be certain about."

Fuck that. Hegel is the right way. You don't exist, except for being an reflection of the environment. We're all just mimicking apes, pretending to be people, being taught a role from birth, existing purely by the shape of the expectations of our close ones.

The world exists, not you.
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Archie Clidgehin - Wed, 11 Dec 2019 11:04:56 EST 337IwFP3 No.900521 Reply
>>900509
Yeah, but what does the world existing but not "you" really mean? It means you are the world, or rather, the world is you. The "you" here is illusory, but that illusion is similarly part of that world. It isn't quite as simple as a cut and dry "you don't exist". There are greater ramifications to this belief, ones that are worthy of and require discussion and consideration... it isn't something to be so eagerly hand waved away like you're doing. Using that conclusion as a statement of finality to avoid further discussion is lazy and an intellectual dead end. Don't pretend that you know enough to actually know with any certainty the nature of existence.

Cubensis

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- Thu, 21 Nov 2019 21:48:38 EST 08p1O27S No.900113
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What’s the goin rate of shrooms in your neck of the woods?

Eighth? Zip? Qp? Pound?
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dddddd - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 05:29:40 EST Mr1uyDfa No.900457 Reply
You can easily sell 3 grams for 40 dollars.
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Samuel Goodfield - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:35:38 EST BFAajKOB No.900510 Reply
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Pretty inconsistent around here (central VA) Some people will have it for about the same price as weed if not a little higher (10-15 a g, 30-50 an eighth, 60-90 a q, etc) some people blow the prices up though because shrooms are a rarity to them and their customers. I had some wigger kid i knew from school offer me an eighth for 65$ and i suppose if you’re a desperate teen youd pay that but you can easily trip twice as hard with 25$ worth of acid.

Tldr around the same price as weed or something stupid that you should not pay
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dr. m - Wed, 11 Dec 2019 02:50:26 EST 24/kcJ/x No.900517 Reply
>>900503
Realistically, like from someone who either grows or either buys from a grower or buys from a broker who buys entire grows at once? Or do you mean random 5-6 hands passed through weed "dealers"?

Shitty dealers are going to charge just over $10/g, say $40 per 3.5g, to as much as $15-20/g. That's a rip off.

You should be paying somewhere around ~25-100% of weed price g for g, assuming we're talking illegal state weed imported med quality weed price that goes for like ~$200-250/oz.

There is absolutely zero reason why cubes should ever be sold for more than $40 per 3.5g unless they're being delivered to you. I consider weed dealers who sell the occasional 3.5g of indoor cubes for ~$45-60 to be honestly way too far removed from the source to really consider themselves shroom dealers/plugs. They just sell weed and if you're absolutely desperate enough to pay 3x the price you should, they'll source it for you.

Back in undergrad on my campus, it was something like
>$60 for 7g
>$100 for 14g
>$150-180/oz depending on how well you knew them, and how much quantity you were buying, etc. Like IMO $150-180/oz was for people who were consistently buying 1-4oz total per month, usually on top of double that quantity of weed and/or other drugs.

One single oz for a first time customer with no proof they'll be back for more, and that price could easily be anywhere from ~$150-250/oz, aka up to weed prices basically.

>bulk, like QPs or HPs every week or more? Approaching $2000/lb rates if you really know your people, which is $125/oz, but could be anywhere from ~120-180/oz, everywhere it's different.

>buying something dumb like ~2lb+ once or twice a month? Possibly $100/oz, or $1600/oz

>buying entire grows of ~5-10lb+, especially more than 1-2x per year? Who knows, anywhere from $1000-1500/lb to as little as approaching $500-800/lb if you're buying some crazy unmovable quantity of shrooms, like ~20-50lb+.

That's the problem with bulk shrooms. They don't have the liquidity of say 50lb of dank weed. There's also, economically speaking, more products of substitution when it comes to shrooms, like lsd, 4-aco-dmt, various solid LSD analogue, and fake acid 25x crap, all which ultimately compete in the shroom market at some point. If someone is buying actual DNM tabs for like $2.5-3 each 100-120ug or possibly even cheaper, and is selling say 20 hits for idk $120 or 30 hits for $180, at $6 per 120ug (basically doubling their money, even if they only do minimum purchases of like 20-50 tabs), you realize that assuming 100ug of lsd is equal to ~0.85-1.7g shrooms depending, especially when accounting for shrooms being half the duration, then anything more than around ~$140-160/oz for shrooms is economically speaking pretty unfair.

Personally I'd never pay more than $160/oz for 1oz or less, and would prefer getting a 100 tab sheet of ~100-130ug clean real DNM LSD for like ~$250 or less off the internet when it's all said and done. While I have a huge love for mycelium cultivation, LSD or even powered 4-aco-dmt just tend to be more economical these days if you refuse to grow yourself, or don't have a friend doing monotubs instead of gay low yield PF Tek who's cool with like $5/g or less.

I haven't checked the onions in ages, but I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if there aren't a few sellers on there selling for as cheap as $50-80/oz, or basically $1000/lb. They're not hard to grow. The fact they always flew out like hot cakes at just below dank out of state indoor weed prices was honestly a crime against humanity. Those weed growers were busting their asses, while the shroom guys just dressed up like walter white 1-2x/month, cooked some shit, injected some shit, wrapped it in black garbage bags, pretended it didnt exist for a month, then filled tubs that take ~10min or less to make, then just fanned and misted them for ~5-10min/day max, all for half the grow duration of weed. No smell, no electricity, etc.

Totally unfair, lmao.

THIS

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- Tue, 10 Dec 2019 00:34:25 EST JirG4SS3 No.900503
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Okay you guys seein thi s
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Nell Pinningstidge - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 22:36:50 EST O1eQhk6A No.900515 Reply
>When Magic MusMushrooms fried your testicles and you forgot how to operate a motor vehicle.
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David Fonningstodge - Wed, 11 Dec 2019 01:47:36 EST c+ot2hXd No.900516 Reply
>>900503
Hope you're not driving under the influence of anything, anon.
That would be silly.

Woodrose Seeds?

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- Mon, 02 Dec 2019 21:14:52 EST tNYswSoy No.900379
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As anybody here experienced tripping on woodrose seeds?

I've read a few trip reports, but I want to know how close the experience is to LSD/shrooms.
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Phyllis Sorringsodge - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 22:56:28 EST NYw9n0/7 No.900471 Reply
Sweet baby woodrose, king of vasocontriction.
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Isabella Grimridge - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 18:49:03 EST xKKonHhx No.900494 Reply
try to order these. I never did them. Just lsd people explaining the usage for that purpose. If you buy from a store, wallmart etc, in the past companies had sprayed seeded, morning glory woodrose seeds with a chemical to thwart misuse.

It is documented that this has been true. Even labels may say, something to the effect. Seek hawain baby woodrose seeds. People say to scrape the outer layer
off to help avoid nausea.
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Sidney Clullysack - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 20:36:23 EST IvOInNBn No.900514 Reply
It's very different to LSD in that there are almost no visuals, unless you combine it with something else. It is sedating as well. For what its worth it does indeed give you a better (or greatly enhanced, depending on the dose) ability to "visualize" stuff inside your mind, but it won't give you outright visual distortions like LSD unless you take a large-huge dose.

LSD in Joshua Tree

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- Tue, 10 Dec 2019 15:36:10 EST jktApP00 No.900511
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I have rented a remote cabin near Joshua Tree for this weekend and plan on taking 415μg somewhat far into the park. I am pretty excited as I have very limited experience with desert landscapes and I am certain it will be beautiful. The area is known for good stargazing as well. I am planning on going alone and will have the cabin for three nights four days. I am planning on taking the LSD on Friday. I was considering taking mushrooms the next day but felt that may too aggressive and I should just relax and enjoy my little vacation. Do you think that is prudent, or cowardly?
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Oliver Blatherhood - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 16:08:56 EST T3z+8UAB No.900512 Reply
>>900511
That is a good dose of LSD, you would likely not want to take shrooms the day after that. Perhaps some weed and ketamine the day after?
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Barnaby Pinkinbig - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 19:15:57 EST I42brmLV No.900513 Reply
>>900511
only if you take it within 1-2 hours of taking acid. 2 hours is seriously stretching it. Since you are alone you want to know youself under these circumstances and probably be quite experienced. Otherwise just leave shrooms for next week or at least the fourth day.

4-aco-dmt

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- Thu, 05 Dec 2019 02:08:25 EST kTXPlr6J No.900430
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so is 4-aco dmt similar to mushrooms in the sense that its sedating? or is it more like lsd as an upper/electric feeling? my only tripping experience was with 1p-lsd which was very vibrant and afterwards left me with some trouble falling asleep.

im thinking of trying 4-aco as my second, just curious what people think. also, how long should a trip last orally with alcohol? i plan on using vodka as a solvent and making 30ml/20mg shots as doses. also considering mixing with weed which i never did with lsd
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Charlotte Pimblehood - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 15:37:48 EST kTXPlr6J No.900433 Reply
>>900431
cool, thanks. i liked lsd but now i cant get it as easily, so im thinking of trying "shrooms". the one thing besides thought-loops that i didn't like, was that trouble going to sleep.

also, it seems 4-aco is a good deal cheaper than 1p, so thats nice, as well as no nausea from actual mushrooms.
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Jenny Pucklesot - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 21:23:20 EST TjS0pPqu No.900467 Reply
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>>900430
it's v sedating. one time during a trip i felt really sleepy, but couldn't actually sleep, so i got frustrated and tossed and turned the whole night. wack

another trip i spent the entire last half of it lying still, listening to music with my eyes closed, only moving to change the song. i was also drinking that night, though.

mixing with weed is cool if you want mega visuals, but adds extra delusion.

a trip lasts around six hours, but it may take up to an hour to come up.
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Polly Devingdad - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 07:19:54 EST fBda5aVt No.900507 Reply
>>900433
I’ve taken 4-aco and thrown up for pretty much the entire trip before.
Obviously not having to digest a load of mushrooms will reduce the chance of nausea, but there’s definitely something in psilocin itself that can make you feel sick.

Weed + Acid

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- Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:28:12 EST K6bVDH/0 No.900480
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Im gonna be combing LSD and pot for the first time and Im curious when is a good time during the trip to light up a bowl? Or could I just do it throughout. I have a pretty low tolerance as well and one bowl is generally all I need
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Isabella Duttingfoot - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 18:07:28 EST kTXPlr6J No.900499 Reply
>>900480
ive never mixed psychs and weed, but, with a low tolerance especially, you're gonna get fucked. weed usually exponentiates psychs, thought loops are imminent. im curious to mix them as well, i can vape a good .5 without getting extremely high, sadly.
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David Chirrystadging - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 20:04:58 EST c3gflUrd No.900500 Reply
Sort of the opposite question for me.

Other than the first times I did /psy/ like 10+ years ago I've never tripped without weed, however i don't smoke the laser lettuce no more and am planning on tripping this holiday season. I was curious if anyone had suggestions for what to do to smooth out the comedown. I used to just double down on the weed near the end of a trip, then eat a ton of munchies while watching shit. Not sure what to do without the ol' Johnny red eye though, especially since I'm gonna be doing LSD which always keeps me up late even when partaking of the free form herbal jazz

What do y'all do? Beer? Chamomile tea? Just wait it out? I don't have any benzos because that would have solved my problem.

BWT Model XIII: The Ultimate Fractal Challenge

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- Sat, 02 Nov 2019 23:05:10 EST UH6df/fk No.899738
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I am disappointed in you /psy/ There was no BWT on the first 2 pages so here I am making one.

I got a couple tabs of acid, a fat ecstasy pill, some dee M tee, and plenty of weed, plus some beer for the morning.

Gonna be an interesting night for sure.

Come join the party and let's rock and roll


BWT MUTHAFUCKAS
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dr. m - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 01:52:37 EST 24/kcJ/x No.900495 Reply
>>900460
I've only ever had some of the finest DNM LSD produced in various locations exported out of western europe, properly dosed between ~100-130ug LSD per tab like God intended, also tested with several reagent kits, and let me tell you, that stuff prevents sleep and causes insomnia in a way that other psychedelics like shrooms/4-aco-dmt/dpt can't even compare. LSA is also a bit more stimmy than those I mentioned, but nothing like real LSD. And no, I don't mean stimmy in a 25x or a DOx way. I just mean the extra very noticeable dopamine agonism action, D2 receptor I believe, which is why LSD comeup is so goddamn euphoric for those with depression like me, a come up that's genuinely over 10x more euphoric than say solid dried cubes.
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Phyllis Tootham - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:10:05 EST I42brmLV No.900498 Reply
>>900495
cubes come ups are just scary. If you do normal doses that is. I'd agree with the insomnia part and lsd vs trypts. I bet the dopaminergic action also has something to do with how special lsd is for music. LSA shares some of that magic in regards to music as well. It just makes music sound so rich and tasty, it's insane.

Looking for a classic PF Tek/BRF Cake instructional video circa ~2006

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- Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:57:41 EST Mw6V2ZTr No.900491
File: 1575842261510.jpg -(319562B / 312.07KB, 2048x1536) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Looking for a classic PF Tek/BRF Cake instructional video circa ~2006
A question for the old fags out there.

I'm looking for a specific video on how to grow magic mushrooms.

I found it maybe around 2006 and it was definitely grow-op dudes describing how to do PF Tek/BRF Cake instructional video. They kept their identities hidden, so it's not Roadkills & RR's "Let's grow mushroom" DVDs.

The most defining quality of the video is that they would have a "beeeeeeeuuuuuupppp" sound effect on the timelapsed shrooms growing off the cakes. They put I think a smiley face over their faces in post.

They covered the gamut from sterilization to materials to inoculation etc.

As far as I can tell it was a de facto one at the time.

DMT dimension

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- Sun, 01 Dec 2019 02:33:49 EST c+ot2hXd No.900346
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What's your guy's opinion on the nature of the DMT dimension?

Do you think it's an intangible dimension that runs along our own like an after life or do you adot more of a reductionist approach?
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Priscilla Chunnermidging - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 13:04:07 EST BY1X0WQa No.900483 Reply
>>900479
Sounds pretty legit - build bridges with those like-minded and be strong together and evolve and grow and have fun together.

I like the message.
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Matilda Fickledale - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:25:39 EST c+ot2hXd No.900490 Reply
>>900479
>i know the way bruh trust me bruh
Sorry but no, this is some cultish bullshit.

question

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- Sun, 24 Nov 2019 02:03:58 EST I8Yv7Fz0 No.900164
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can you get sick from inhaling shroom spores?

Like, if its growing in the same room youre sleeping?
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Fucking Shakeford - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 03:11:33 EST MU5DQUTc No.900166 Reply
Yes, you don't want to inhale spores. But if your shrooms are exposed to the open air of your room they'll probably get contaminated by something else anyway. They should be growing in some sort of covered container which would solve both issues.
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Randy Dandy - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 03:48:49 EST 2AdKv469 No.900413 Reply
>>900164
Always pick your shrooms before they start getting filled with spores, that way you're not reducing the amount of potential active chemicals and you're reducing the nuasea shrooms can cause

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