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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

grow kits

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- Tue, 10 Mar 2020 01:47:24 EST BL/zaXkp No.902016
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there are so many sites offering these grow kits, but i am terriefied of it getting taken by customs. anybody know of trusted sight with secure and discreet packaging? i did actually order one of these 4-5 years ago, but i can't remember what the site was called, but i do believe it was spanish. it arrived without a hitch.
Nicholas Shittingson - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 17:59:48 EST ZbCPyt3H No.902035 Reply
buy a growkit for a non-psychoactive mushroom that uses a substrate closest to what you'd use for psilocybe cubensis, and then buy spore syringes seperately from a vendor on circlejerk

San Pedro

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- Thu, 19 Mar 2020 00:10:01 EST ycOcNYww No.902146
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Has anyone here had luck with tripping off of San Pedro? I know the cuttings you can order online vary in potency, but I want to try mescaline. I could source mescaline hcl, but it's expenesive.
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Nell Drunkinkuck - Fri, 03 Apr 2020 02:19:56 EST P9y65PNp No.902353 Reply
Solid tip, thanks, I think we'll try and make a few bombs, see how they go down, and then either keep going with it or just make a drink of the rest and chug/chase. At least I have some second-hand experience with mescaline from shrooms (which obviously taste quite horrible as well, but more dank/rotten and less bitter).

Yeah I'm partial to fruit myself when I trip, in particular a good watermelon or cantaloupe which I prepare beforehand and leave in the fridge.

And thanks my dudes.
Wesley Fanstone - Mon, 06 Apr 2020 03:22:34 EST MU5DQUTc No.902367 Reply
Mushrooms taste fine, in comparison. Your idea is fine but instead of making all the powder into a drink, just make a glassful and see how that goes down. You may decide it's worth finishing the rest as bombs too.
Charlotte Happerton - Tue, 07 Apr 2020 19:25:49 EST VOxQdWSm No.902384 Reply
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Pure mescaline HCl may be expensive, but I would still grab a gram just to have it in your stash. I've taken mescaline and found it unbelievably smooth and gentle. Zero nausea and a gradual 2 hour comeup. Hands down my favorite psychedelic.

I've never prepared San Pedro brew but I'm starting some Trichocereus hybrids from seed soon. Mostly for the fun of it, but 4-5 years from now once the seedlings mature, it'll be nice to have a natural mescaline source after I use up the last of my synthetic mescaline.


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- Mon, 06 Apr 2020 21:13:20 EST n5shj2K4 No.902369
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Hello friends.

What can you all tell me about 4-ho-met? Gonna order some soon. How would you guys say it compares to mushrooms and oral dmt? I don't smoke anything.
Sophie Suvingman - Mon, 06 Apr 2020 23:23:16 EST GDqa3F/B No.902370 Reply
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Fun, not much of a grandiose headspace like acid or shrooms. Not as 'warm' or comforting as mushrooms can be. Kinda closest to mescaline in terms of psychedelic effects. Nowhere near as weird as oral DMT, oral DMT seems to make time stop when I try it. The sound of my heart even starts to freak me out. Overall it's a good psych to try, anon. You'll probably laugh a lot at stupid shit and get flashbacks to when you were a kid, colors get very vivid and panic attacks are very unlikely. Get it before the UN blanket-bans it
Charlotte Happerton - Tue, 07 Apr 2020 19:15:55 EST VOxQdWSm No.902383 Reply
Lovely compound. I took 25mg this past Saturday and had a fun trip. Great colors, and pattern repetition is wild; near the peak I could stare at any given point for a while and watch my vision become engulfed in triangular tessellations. Very manageable headspace unless you really push the dose. Good times.

recurrent excitation in neocortical circuits psychedelic

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- Wed, 01 Apr 2020 14:18:12 EST ol3lKwZ/ No.902330
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Who has that infographic explaining reoccurrent excititation?

Whatever, I have it myself... nb

Mushrooms and Religious experiences

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- Tue, 25 Feb 2020 22:42:53 EST 5g7At23a No.901792
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Really don't post much but I have a question. I've been searching all over Google for people with similar experiences but I've got no results.

I was camping with my friends this weekend and we did shrooms. Really good shrooms. I had visuals for the first time ever. The stars in the sky turned into Odin and he looked down at me and told me he was entertained. He then turned into a spider, then a fox, and then back into Odin. We went on a walk and Odin followed me all around the park. Anyone get contacted by a god from a religion (any) while on shrooms or psychodelics before? Anyone ever talk to Odin before?
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Rebecca Turveywell - Mon, 06 Apr 2020 15:51:07 EST bV6KqMp2 No.902368 Reply
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I've met Odin and the rest of the Greek Pantheon on my first shroom trip (especially speaking to Hermes) ; met more Gods/Goddess's from other pantheon's aswell and that trip alone put me on the path to paganism which I will be doing for the rest of my life. It's a trip but I too felt like Dr. Manhatten post trip being back into society asking myself why the hell am i still working a 9 - 5 job that i know i wont be doing for the rest of my life. Solitude is beautiful but I can't let it drive me to insanity which is what im conflicted with at this moment but 10/10 would trip again.
Simon Bundlelick - Tue, 07 Apr 2020 10:26:13 EST R0FgeBHX No.902378 Reply
no but i sold my soul to satan and took it back with a song. then he took the song away and then i made another song lol
Fanny Chedgemug - Tue, 07 Apr 2020 16:24:18 EST v7KU5uSC No.902379 Reply
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I contacted Buddha while on 4-HO-MiPT. I saw an image of Buddha appear out of a door, while hearing auditory hallucinations of ambient OM chanting. This lasted for about a minute.

Not sure if I’m being very silly/a total pussy - DMT related

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- Tue, 31 Mar 2020 07:35:11 EST H1HM57ZY No.902311
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I’m probably gunna sound like I think I’m special or something but I have NOT yet met someone who understands what I’m saying, so I just have to say it without worrying how retarded I sound but please take me at face value I’m seriously not sure what I’m feeling. I’ve only taken LSD once btw like 7 years ago and it was a small dose.

Since I was about 13 years old I have experienced very weird, very random episodes of incredible panic by entering into this weird state where I kind of become aware that reality is fucking terrifying and as weird as anything I could ever imagine. I examine my field of sight very closely and then I start to panic that everything is so paper thin and I end up feeling trapped inside my own experience and also freak out that I will somehow accidentally wish myself away. I’m actually aware that this is basically EVERY version of “babbys first existential crisis” except that for some reason, no matter how content I have become with life (I’m 25 now), for whatever reason a close examination of my experience always always causes serious panic. I hear about how people fuck around with all sorts of psychedelics and I cannot understand how someone can have so much faith in their sanity, I honestly walk around every single day with an acute feeling of a tenuous hold on reality and my sanity.

My girlfriend wants me to take DMT with her, she said she will sit with me and look after me and help me if I get afraid. I want to do this with her because she thinks it will be really fun for us but I’m so afraid that I’m going to freak out, even just smoking weed can send me down serious fucking rabbit holes of panic and paranoia, I feel like everything I am becomes 2D and I have this image of myself like a projector screen and behind it is just black eternity and I known it’s stupid but it really scares me. Will DMT take me there but only a million times more?
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Basil Sizzlewill - Sun, 05 Apr 2020 23:32:58 EST brJt0jkJ No.902366 Reply
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>freak out that I will somehow accidentally wish myself away.

The next time that happens give it a shot. Wish yourself away.

Sounds like there's some ideas you're anxious about exploring because they make you anxious when you explore them. So just do that. Figure out what's down there.

I found my dmt experience to be very peaceful, it's not something you move around in either and it's over almost as soon as it begins.
Sophie Suvingman - Mon, 06 Apr 2020 23:34:26 EST GDqa3F/B No.902371 Reply
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I understand that feeling.
It became most noticeable for me after I did nitrous the morning after a 460ug LSD trip - my visual field 'zoned out' and it was like I was watching my consciousness through a TV screen, like my surroundings and mind were just tools in a video game. It was pretty cathartic, I didn't find it scary at all. It's like going back to the source, reminding yourself that your consciousness and moment-to-moment experience is everything there ever will be. After it wore off I had this awesome sense of control over my own mind, and a clarity. Every little urge I got, from breathing to eating, I was aware was just a remnant of chemical processes in my brain.

I find DMT to be much more amusing and calm than people make it out to be. Things have this 'industrial' vibe to them, everything looks like a tiny little metallic ecosystem. You're present and not freaked out. I think you should try it, you don't need a 'breakthrough' dose to get a sense of what it's like. Just stay away from something like DPT, or heavy LSD doses - I usually find these have a way of stopping your perception of time. Psychs that force you into the present and bump up your awareness to such a crazy extent can be extremely confronting and scary as fuck. DMT, by comparison, is just a wacky, pretty movie. Do it, anon
Hedda Bluddlewell - Tue, 07 Apr 2020 08:47:32 EST 337IwFP3 No.902377 Reply
^This. Sounds like a good idea honestly. Reminds me of when I first got Alien: Isolation and was too afraid to play the game at first once you first encounter the Xenomorph. Then the thought occurred to me that I was more afraid of the idea of the alien catching me than I actually was of the alien catching me, so I let it kill me on purpose 2 or 3 times and found out I was correct. After letting it kill me, I could play the game fine, no problem.

Trip Tokens

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- Wed, 01 Apr 2020 01:05:51 EST jumG5XeW No.902321
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Do any of you have an item you have while tripping to remind yourself that you are tripping to help keep yourself grounded?

I made this card that I always keep near me whenever I trip to remind myself of important rules so I don't go screaming down the street thinking I've been poisoned or gone insane.

I've read that it's pretty useful at times. Could be a t-shirt you wear while only a tripping, a sign you put in the room, or maybe a small item like a toy or plush toy you hold onto while in the beyond zone.
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Hamilton Bardfoot - Mon, 06 Apr 2020 23:57:22 EST sEq56U3Y No.902373 Reply
All I do is I start a timer on my phone as soon as I pop the tabs on my mouth. That way I know how far along the trip I am and it keeps me grounded that I took it.
Edward Finninghall - Tue, 07 Apr 2020 01:20:56 EST 9JchIYMz No.902374 Reply
I do the same thing. It's also useful to confirm the feeling of coming down, as often you can feel like the trip is ending, but actually it's only been two hours.
Hedda Bluddlewell - Tue, 07 Apr 2020 08:44:43 EST 337IwFP3 No.902376 Reply
The only time I've lost awareness that I was tripping was on absurdly high doses of dissociatives. Honestly never used a trip token or thought to use one for that matter

That 2C-B Thread

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- Sat, 28 Mar 2020 15:13:33 EST XodVEjtg No.902273
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Sup /psy/, been a long while since I checked on this chan. Really loving what you've done with the place.

Today, I'd like to talk about my new absolute favourite substance favourie substance and maybe start a discussion of you're so inclined.

2C-B was first synthesized by Alexander Shulgin using the molecular structure of Mescaline as his basis.

He set out to create a compound that could take the place of (M)D(M)A, since while he always quite enjoyed it there was something he felt just wasn't quite what it needed to be.

Today, I'm glad to report that he was more than successful. Unlike MDMA, 2C-B has next to no tolerance except for edge cases where it is taken several days in a row for over two weeks, creates AMAZING visuals, has an extremely mild and pleasant comedown and no side effects safe a mild headache that goes away with proper hydration.

Two other aspects that set it apart: Enjoyment o food and sexual pleasure are greatly enhanced on it. Indeed it used to be sold in 10 mg doses as an aphrodisiac, and without going into too much detail I can confirm that the effect is quite strong and that unlike MDMA/Speed acting on the desire is both possible and highly enjoyable rather than frustrating.

Where it IS like MDMA is a strong enhancement of colours, an insistent yet by no means "tweaky" stimulation and a staggering improvement of music appreciation that I would rate even more potent than that of MDMA & Psilocybin combined.

A final aspect I'd like to mention is cost. One strong dose of powder clocks in at a mere 1,60 Dollars, making it one of the most affordable substances I've had the pleasure of trying.

How have your experiences been, and where did you first try it?
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Doris Goodwill - Thu, 02 Apr 2020 21:31:24 EST hZW3Doxi No.902352 Reply
ooh that does sound fun
big fan of NO2 with psychs so I can imagine kitty being a nice combo as well
Walter Susslehall - Mon, 06 Apr 2020 23:38:19 EST zOZos08p No.902372 Reply

what did he mean by this?
Lillian Turveywell - Tue, 07 Apr 2020 03:17:35 EST G+7P4FQM No.902375 Reply
>has an extremely mild and pleasant comedown and no side effects safe a mild headache that goes away with proper hydration.
you are clearly not taking enough

Amanita Muscaria

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- Sat, 31 Aug 2019 05:25:55 EST LlCcz68O No.897935
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Are Amanita Muscaria /psy/, /dis/ or /del/ ?

In my limited experience, they are more /psy/ than anything else. Just pure white divine light. An amazing friend to hang out with.
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Cornelius Greenstock - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 00:15:48 EST 03Ml0xh+ No.901902 Reply
It didnt feel nightmarish at all tho, the "scariest" stuff would be the girl, and even tho she had pointy teeth and a semi menacingly look, she somehow looked like someone i could relate a lot, like my "anima" of sorts, so i didnt feel any fear.
Hedda Bellyshit - Thu, 02 Apr 2020 17:46:24 EST LlCcz68O No.902347 Reply
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>I really feel it's a force of good, a true ally.
I feel this as well. The same with San Pedro. Feels like I'm hanging out with a really good friend.
Wesley Meffingchatch - Sun, 05 Apr 2020 21:55:40 EST TjS0pPqu No.902364 Reply
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i found tincture of amanita muscaria a while back, but i'm not sure where to start with something like that dosage-wise

Bitcoin Safety

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- Thu, 02 Apr 2020 17:55:41 EST yhmEXgdd No.902348
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What's the safest way to buy bitcoin untraceable for darknet purchases? I already have a Protonmail hooked up to a vpn hooked up to tor, so my IP is secure but is it safe to buy bitcoin from say PayPal while using the vpn and then am I good to go? I just don't want to fuck this up sorry if this is against the rules
Phineas Pablingham - Fri, 03 Apr 2020 09:37:37 EST zCS5uZfH No.902355 Reply
One option is to use one of those P2P sell services. I've never used them, but my understanding is that the buyer and the seller put their funds in escrow, which is released when both have placed the funds, and if this doesn't happen after a certain time the funds are returned.

Alternatively, you can buy BTC wherever, and then use a tumbler to anonymize the funds. What a tumbler does is split your coins into many parts and mix them with other people's coin parts, then it passes the funds through a lattice structure of transactions. This is a more robust version of what money launderers do to obscure the origin of money, and what in legal parlance is known as "structuring". At the end, the tumbler deposits your funds (minus the tumbler's cut minus the transaction costs) into an address or addresses you specified at the beginning. Ideally, when the funds leave the tumbler it should be impossible to tell who they came from. If someone sees that those funds were used to buy, say, a sheet of acid, all they should be able to do is track them back to the tumbler and see that a thousand people (one of which happens to be you), deposited money into the tumbler.
Note that there's no way to know if a tumbler's operators are keeping track of where funds came from and where they went, so beware.
the hodl guy - Sat, 04 Apr 2020 18:03:23 EST ZglOC8I/ No.902362 Reply
safer to use Monero than BTC. BTC is on its slow way out imo. It's been coopted by too many states, usage is too restricted because of public transactions and coin blacklisting.

> is it safe to buy bitcoin from say PayPal while using the vpn

I mean they will still have the history of your transaction if you don't lie to PayPal about what you're buying, and you're trusting the person who sold it to you not to get caught for money laundering cuz then that whole tree of the blockchain becomes subject to investigation. Safest bet is to exchange it into Monero and then back to BTC if you absolutely must use BTC. That said if you're just buying a small amount of psychedelics I doubt many govts care. USA doesn't seem to care about the small timers, at least.
Rebecca Gorryfoot - Sat, 04 Apr 2020 21:14:12 EST 9JchIYMz No.902363 Reply
>safer to use Monero than BTC.
Maybe. I haven't looked into the technical aspect of Monero, but I have read they make pretty bold claims with regards to anonymity, such that I would first like to understand what it is they do before I believe them.

I do agree that Bitcoin has been on its way out for years. IMO the beginning of the end came when Steam stopped accepting BTC. The developers have been unable to solve technical problems (primarily transaction throughput and block size) and by far the main use of the currency is speculative, which itself has just been a giant bubble for years. Regardless of its current value, its real value is close to zero because it's at the point where it's just never going to take off. They had their chance in 2018 where everyone started becoming aware of Bitcoin, and they blew it by being unable to handle the transaction volume.

>I mean they will still have the history of your transaction if you don't lie to PayPal about what you're buying, and you're trusting the person who sold it to you not to get caught for money laundering cuz then that whole tree of the blockchain becomes subject to investigation.
Possibly, depending on how you payed (cash? Credit card? Prepaid credit card?), but even if they get to your name and address as long as you didn't actually launder any money you're safe. Remember kids: do and sell all the drugs you want, but don't even think of cheating the Man out of his cut.

>Safest bet is to exchange it into Monero and then back to BTC if you absolutely must use BTC.
I don't know about that. How are you going to exchange the coins without using an exchange? Remember exchanges are now required to do KYC and ask for IDs and such.

>That said if you're just buying a small amount of psychedelics I doubt many govts care. USA doesn't seem to care about the small timers, at least.
Yes, plus as far as getting busted is concerned, you're taking a much bigger risk when you actually receive the shipment, which depending on the substance may still be very very small. A acid on blotter paper in an envelope is practically undetectable, but Mimosa hostilis root bark isn't.

shrooms dosage

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- Wed, 01 Apr 2020 23:20:28 EST x2jOuQIJ No.902337
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I ate 1.5 grams of shrooms on a mostly full stomach.
will I feel anything?
pic unrelated, just good bud
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Sophie Desslebanks - Thu, 02 Apr 2020 02:10:45 EST x2jOuQIJ No.902341 Reply
I can pull apart the fabric of reality
yes I am feeling it
Charles Drevingfield - Thu, 02 Apr 2020 11:20:40 EST g6KQ7m74 No.902345 Reply
Listen to some NEW music.
As in, something you've never heard before.

That's always a nice/cool thing.
Shitting Pebberhog - Fri, 03 Apr 2020 20:05:37 EST qYqhblK5 No.902357 Reply
first mush trip was 1.2 and it was perfect. def tripped but didnt have a hard experince i was playing qbert and the squares started to look like circles and thats when i knew

Abstract illusion

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- Wed, 19 Jun 2019 00:32:50 EST +9uUVdnU No.896087
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Why when watching videos with abstract illusion after 2 minutes of viewing , the reality begins to distort ?
Is it related to the vulnerability of our matrix ? Or a side effect of our brain ?

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Awe' !!Bwteoy2D - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 19:41:06 EST ol3lKwZ/ No.901912 Reply
reoccurent excititation I think it's called. Visual info in the brain is not just a bunch of pictures, it's also info about supposed depth, or depth from paralax, things like movement direction, movement speed. There are literally people who don't see shit, yet are able to detect movement. So your brain gets stimulated in the idea of some part of the visual field having certain motion and other things associated with it and then echos when you look away. I'm the most mystical guy on this entire forum and even I can easily see that this is an artifact of the brain. Admittedly it may not be obvious at all if you've never done any research about how vision or the brain works. But with basic knowledge it's pretty obvious.

LSD and VR

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- Thu, 26 Mar 2020 15:10:01 EST JruxM5X4 No.902258
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Anyone tried VR while tripping on acid?

Any positive experiences?

Any recommendations to check out?
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Jack Cladgehood - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 16:42:07 EST +HRfR0y9 No.902333 Reply
What the fuck did you just fucking say, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated bottom of my class in middle school, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on the medicine aisle, and I have over 300 confirmed trips. I am trained in robowalking and I'm the top shop lifter in the entire midwest. You are nothing to me but just another hippy. I will wipe your mind the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of demon spirits across the USA and your soul is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your ego. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be everywhere, all the time, and I can enlighten you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my slurred speach. Not only am I extensively trained in aesthetics , but I have access to the entire arsenal of Vapor wave and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable consciousness off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will roboshit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
Basil Crungerwill - Thu, 02 Apr 2020 19:10:43 EST DyOgS0JU No.902350 Reply
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I don't enjoy it online. However a game like Windlands 2(Grappling hook shit, you feel like you are flying.) is some sick ass shit. Very good.

Has anyone ever gotten useful information from DMT elves/entities or psychedelic creatures?

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- Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:44:07 EST DHbCA7gp No.902223
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I don't doubt that psychedelics can create useful/good thoughts/perspectives. But specifically, has anyone ever gotten information from these DMT creatures people always claim to meet that is then concrete and useful in the real world, like for an invention or something? not just something about how all of reality is "an illusion".

Before I would ever try doing something like DMT, I would want to know more about these creatures. Mckenna said they could sing stuff into existence, but idk why that would be so interesting.

Relatedly, to me they sound like they might just be demons.
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Matilda Drusslewedge - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 14:07:56 EST 4+4oGv9u No.902329 Reply
You're contradicting yourself. First you say trying to derive meaning from what these entities say is pointless, and then say that trippers report being taught wisdom about the nature of reality.

As for being able to control the trip, how could someone possibly know that? Like, say you see the machine elf wave its arms or whatever, and the visuals change. Even if we assume that the elf exists, how can we conclude that its intention was for your trip to change, and not that it simply wanted to wave its arms for whatever reason and your trip changed because you saw it wave its arms?
Honestly, during a psychedelic trip the mind is in such a malleable state that to say that something must be god-like because it can alter the trip is like saying that drinking glasses are god-like because they can change the shape of water. Everything during your trip changes the trip. Even the trip itself changes the trip.

>As far as machine elves go, if they aren't god-like in the sense that they literally are or otherwise constitute/form existence as a whole, then alternatively they should be considered so lacking in consciousness and self-awareness or a sense of identity that they aren't entities so much as they are things (we doin't consider particles or energy to be "entities" for the same reason).

Personally, I don't see any reason to think differently. I think they "exist" in the same sense that fractals exist during the trip. When you see fractals during a trip you're seeing some part of the visual system feeding into itself in a loop, and this manifests as intricate shapes in the visual field. The particular shape is a consequence of the topology of the neural network. Likewise, machine elves are the result of a different modification to the internetworking of different areas of the brain; some areas that are normally connected may be disconnected, and vice versa. The effect is certainly more complex than fractals, but it's the same principle.
Put simply, your perception and mental states are only as real as the fact that your neurons are communicating with each other.
Rebecca Blytheforth - Wed, 01 Apr 2020 23:08:38 EST 337IwFP3 No.902336 Reply
Man I think you're confused about my original post. I know it was a giant adderall fueled wall of text, but the main point I was making about the machine elves and DMT entities is that they're manifestations of the mind's disrupted sensory binding processes, and are at best mental projections given to phenomena of things the tripper isn't consciously aware of or capable of comprehending in that moment (like, for instance, the sensory binding pathways along the thalamocortical circuit responsible for producing our conscious experience undergoing runaway recurrent feedback excitation). My whole point was that anybody who actually thinks they're being taught something specific by intelligent, conscious, self-aware entities that you only become capable of experiencing suddenly after taking a powerful mind and reality warping drug is legitimately delusional.
Wesley Weckleshaw - Thu, 02 Apr 2020 08:32:52 EST 4+4oGv9u No.902344 Reply
Oh, okay. We're more or less in agreement, then.

Well, I personally don't believe it, but I can see how tearing apart one's perception of reality and somehow seeing apparently mystical beings could lead someone who is already somewhat religious or otherwise likely to believe New Agey nonsense to think they're seeing something real, rather than merely a visualization of their own cerebral circuitry.

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