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Lydia Murdfuck - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 11:29:51 EST ID:3hwRIEzp No.893344
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just took one square of unknown strength and here are the highlights:

>invisible entity spotted
>i look like a demon in the dark
>spacing out
>uncontrollable intense tremor-smiling
>wanting to move and not move at the same time and remaining in odd positions
>strange weightless sensation for two days
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Albert Cropperhood - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 15:32:38 EST ID:on2mSl0A No.893352 Ignore Report Reply
This sounds like a normal high dose trip to me. But I was also diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.
William Blatherbury - Sat, 23 Feb 2019 15:26:53 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.893964 Ignore Report Reply
First of all you're a retard kys
>two days
>I looked like a demon
>spacing out
>ambivalence toward the body and weightlessness
William Chollerspear - Mon, 25 Feb 2019 01:49:07 EST ID:q39sFa4W No.893983 Ignore Report Reply
Sounds normal to me. I used to get the wanting to move and not move at the same time a LOT back when i first started to trip a long time ago, it was one of the predominant features of my, at the time, high dosage trips. it seemed to be more prominent with tryptamine based psychedelics like shrooms most intensely, but happened more or less with all of them.

my trips now all go pretty much more or less exactly the same way in general, with the only differences being in the experiences and hallucinations themselves. its hard to explain, the experiences are still unique, but the overall journey the trips take overall is the same and very predictable feeling.

typically they're all characterized with me instantly becoming god (more like connected with god to the point i was always "god" and my ego and "self" that i experience during this life are more or less perceived or understood to be illusory and fleeting, knowing that it is all ephemeral and transitory). along with that, i feel that am in complete and total control of my experience. all sense of anxiety or uncertainty in my actions or what i experience happening vanishes, because the state im in has such a transcendental kind of self-actualized/successfully individuated kind of quality to it. i still get odd and conflicting sensations like wanting to move and not move at the same time, but the cognitive dissonance from wanting to do both equally bad no longer applies like it used to way back when i first started (where it could be almost distressing and was something i would have to be calm, accept, and then kind of just ignore during the rest of the trip back then). now, everything that happens feels so expected, "right", and inevitable in a deterministic kind of way that it doesn't cause distress or uncomfortability in the least and instead is just another great part of the experience on the whole.

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Sophie Hondlekidging - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 14:07:03 EST ID:TtGZa1HL No.893975
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I'm not well versed in mushrooms and this has probably been posted before, but I found this and multiple more growing on a piece of discarded lumber in my back yard. Curious to know if these are the fun mushrooms

Whoever reads this, thanks for your time
Albert Siblingson - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:41:14 EST ID:lHfMdLzC No.893979 Ignore Report Reply
Very likely not fun

If you're serious about finding mushrooms around outside please take the proper steps in iding them, but even then it is risky. There are tutorials on how to do this

Safest way is to grow your own with spores, it is much easier as well
Ian Bunkinhall - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 16:07:15 EST ID:tq4503pw No.893980 Ignore Report Reply
If you have to ask, you shouldn't be picking mushrooms in the first place.
No, this does not look like an edible mushroom. Do your research, and even then just buy them or grow them yourself. It's not worth risking having one of the most agonizing deaths a human can experience.

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Ebenezer Chimmlebet - Fri, 22 Feb 2019 22:03:37 EST ID:yz0tN8s9 No.893960
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Looking for some experience here. So, I did some DMT back in January. Extracted it myself, researched it and all. My first few experiences with it were underwhelming; didn't do 3 hits so it was basically the visual part of the peak of an acid trip. "Swimming" orange dyed wooden floors. I bucked up and managed to do three hits, and don't remember much of the trip other than the feeling. I wish I had somebody irl to speak with this about. I was in a maze or rather, I saw a maze and a red light emanated from a part of it and spread outwards. Or, it almost felt like the suggestion of a maze or something. I also saw pic related if I closed my eyes and pressed on them (the toothy, weird column part). They were really tiny and moving like a wave. Funny thing is I had read of people who had seen those fucking things and always thought it would freak me out but it didn't. Basically nothing I saw messed with me fucked me up but the intensity was completely overwhelming. I like listening to McKenna not because I take his opinion as law, but because he at least speaks about dmt in a coherent manner. He'll sometimes mention the threat of "death by astonishment", and the audience will laugh, and he'll then confirm that he's not really being facetious. That's how it felt for me. i kept losing track of time and forgetting that I had done DMT, and then remembering what the hell was happening. I mean, it was out of this world, and I don't even think it was a breakthrough. I'm sure it wasn't. How do I recover and get the balls to try dmt again? This was about a month and a half ago.
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Betsy Sollerhood - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 14:08:53 EST ID:yz0tN8s9 No.893976 Ignore Report Reply
I said it was overwhelming. No clue what you read.
Betsy Sollerhood - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 14:11:45 EST ID:yz0tN8s9 No.893977 Ignore Report Reply
Well, I did see the toothy column things. They weren't the same color, and were illuminated like christmas lights. Very crisp and bright. They were very small, and covered my vision if I squeezed my eyes shut. I didn't get the impression they were living or anything.
Wesley Fiblingford - Sat, 02 Mar 2019 06:12:42 EST ID:25K868o3 No.894042 Ignore Report Reply
I have seen similar columnar entities.

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Eugene Hullerforth - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 05:35:15 EST ID:g+WWltaK No.893970
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I have Mimossa hostilis and B. cappi. Is there a reason for the 12 hour+ cooking methods? Would it be possible to literally just put some mimossa and ayahuasca in a tea bag and make a tea from it?

Ive found some recipes that just involve eating the plant matter by themselves but that was with Syrian rue. Could I do that with ayahuasca leaf? Would it work to just make a simple tea?
Lillian Gemmerdare - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 06:35:22 EST ID:MU5DQUTc No.893971 Ignore Report Reply
nah they just put that in there to fuck with you it's all a big joke
Martha Crunderforth - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 12:39:19 EST ID:bDYMg8HY No.893974 Ignore Report Reply
I made a thread with my method. Its about as simple as it gets at takes under an hour but it uses mimosa and syrian rue. Just buy the fuckin rue dude. It's super cheap and easy to work with. If you buy the rue come back and I might consider writing it out again.

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Hugh Snodcocke - Fri, 22 Feb 2019 14:50:03 EST ID:kETzYzjc No.893957
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Found a new way to smoke dmt, vaping. No bad smell, tastes great, super efficient. I mean there's just no cons to this method. I use the Smok 22 which i bought for $15. All i do is mix up 1 gram of dmt in 2 ml of non-nicotine juice and i breakthrough in 2 hits at the push of a button. Your welcome.
Lillian Gemmerdare - Sun, 24 Feb 2019 05:04:08 EST ID:MU5DQUTc No.893969 Ignore Report Reply
If you're right about normal vapes being able to burn it at the correct temperature, that's intriguing news.
I'm not sure I believe you can dissolve a whole gram in 2ml though, and the smok 22 is going to leak 90% of that out the side. That's intensely wasteful.

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Reuben Chimmerwater - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:14:25 EST ID:s3oPDMi9 No.893870
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I just ingested 1.5g of dried shrooms ground up and mixed in oj. I need some music, stat
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Henry Honeywell - Fri, 14 Dec 2018 03:53:26 EST ID:DK7uZd2D No.893929 Ignore Report Reply
Why is it you think you got bullied for it? I'm asking rhetorically, I don't give a shit about your answer, I'm just trying to generate some potentially meaningful lines of inquiry for you while tripping that could lead to some decent self discovery and enhanced self-awareness. I think that's what the poster you responded to was trying to do as well.

At the same time, maybe next time you trip you should try discovering some new music on youtube on your own, it could be fun and the results may surprise you and be immensely satisfying, both during and post-trip. It's not exactly the easiest thing to accomplish, but it's definitely possible. I usually do it myself (sometimes while tripping, sometimes not) every few months just to try and update my music collection and find some good shit. Sometimes you run across old shit you haven't listened to in forever and entirely forgot that you loved it, which is always nice too.
Shit Babblefield - Wed, 20 Feb 2019 22:17:10 EST ID:s1USd/an No.893934 Ignore Report Reply
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I know the servers have rolled back, but if you are trippin my go to come up music is:

Oliver Pindlecocke - Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:29:06 EST ID:Ugo1dh/c No.893953 Ignore Report Reply

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Cornelius Gangerlirk - Thu, 21 Feb 2019 02:02:40 EST ID:tq4503pw No.893938
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What's your experience purchasing from Avalon, or any other online vendors?

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Albert Gongerwot - Sun, 02 Dec 2018 23:50:38 EST ID:afHNI+bS No.893667
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Do any of you silly shaman gypsy ass hippie mother fuckers actually believe it to be the "Third Eye" in the sense that it is your window into the astral realm or some kind of state of "cosmic consciousness"? Or alternatively, that it is the brain structure that could be considered the "seat/throne" of consciousness?

If so, mind giving some sources (preferably scienfitic) that present evidence favoring these beliefs? Otherwise why do you buy into this mystic horseshit? Later on some discussion and probably sources on why either certain areas of the forebrain or, more likely, the thalamus are likely to be what you'd actually consider the seat of consciousness (although "hub" in the latter case is a better description) incoming if people are actually interested.
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Shitting Wemmlestudge - Fri, 14 Dec 2018 02:30:53 EST ID:MRB5fhdE No.893926 Ignore Report Reply
Henry Honeywell - Fri, 14 Dec 2018 03:41:21 EST ID:DK7uZd2D No.893927 Ignore Report Reply
I wasn't disputing anything regarding the third eye's existence; I was specifically disputing the fact that it was the pineal gland itself that was the third eye. The Thalamus is both a better match in terms of physical location in exactly the "center" of the brain rather than the center-rear like the pineal gland, as well as in function. The Thalamus is the hub where signals coming from all the cortical regions pass through, and it performs a "gating" mechanism whereby some signals are stopped and others allowed to pass through on to the sensory binding pathways that work to integrate the various disparate currents coming from the cortical regions allowed to pass through the Thalamus and constructed into the final model of reality that we experience.

You clearly didn't take the time to actually understand what it was that I was saying/asking, instead being more gung-ho to tell me I was wrong about one of your rather rigid beliefs. This is pretty much the type of behavior and thinking processes I was trying to challenge by creating this thread in the first place, aside from possibly starting a good discussion between people that might agree or disagree for various reasons, some that may have surprisingly good merit to them... along with generally being informative to anyone interested enough to give the thread a look.

For your own sake, in the pursuit of gaining ever greater awareness of the self and the nature of existence, lighten up on the dogmatic horseshit and the need to so quickly and readily defend it. Be open to some actual investigation, or the idea that you might be wrong. Did you even go out and look anything up about the Third Eye and which brain structures might potentially be the cause for it when coming across the thread, before deciding to post? Even just to double check if you might not be wrong, or if any new scientific evidence has been uncovered that may change what we think we know about all of this?

I did, and found out that despite my insistence that the Thalamus is the best candidate for being the actual "seat of consciousness" or "Third Eye", the scientific conses on that has become quite dogmatic itself and some more recent studies have started providing some indirect evidence that either that consensus may not actually be the case, or that the situation is actually much more complicated than the evidence collected prior to this has been suggesting.

Namely, it was almost always the case before that impaired function of the Thalamus would result in no conscious experience being formed. Experiments with electrode implants that allowed us successfully to "switch" consciousness on and off in test subjects seemed to also strongly support the long-held scientific consensus. But, more recently, rare cases of humans undergoing brain scans for various health reasons unrelated to studies on the Thalamus itself have provided evidence contrary to everything we expect, because they've shown advanced impaired functioning of the Thalamus, yet the brain scan subjects were still conscious and aware and otherwise were able to live a generally functional life despite the impaired function. This is extremely relevant and interesting evidence because it almost goes entirely contrary to what the enormous amount of evidence we've compiled suggesting what we're observing with these rare cases should not be possible, indicating some deep, hidden ignorance in our understanding of consciousness and the Thalamus' role (along with surrounding brain structures) that we need uncover to come to a better and more complete understanding of the subject.
Henry Honeywell - Fri, 14 Dec 2018 03:46:47 EST ID:DK7uZd2D No.893928 Ignore Report Reply
>This is pretty much the type of behavior and thinking processes I was trying to challenge by creating this thread in the first place, aside from possibly starting a good discussion between people[...]

That said, your post did itself generate some good discussion that might better help lead to enlightenment on the subject (I myself am still trying to better understand the phenomena being discussed and harbor no illusions that I actually think I know about it all is in fact indisputably the truth by any means).

I didn't really mean to come across as negatively judgmental and critical of you as I did, reading back on what I wrote, so hopefully you don't feel like I was trying to being a dick or anything. I'm just interested in cultivating a discussion that develops better understanding and learning for everybody involved.

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William Gizzleson - Thu, 13 Dec 2018 05:17:14 EST ID:nNcd4tVJ No.893914
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Do you guys think that there are some drug using females coming on this website?

Interesting question.
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Ebenezer Dollyspear - Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:43:01 EST ID:jOE8gy+V No.893921 Ignore Report Reply
Yes I am woman teehee I love drugs

Please send money
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Augustus Chiblingway - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 03:56:07 EST ID:VpkpNXl0 No.893316
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What are some good research chemicals to start out with and what are some interesting/different ones?
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' God !!vVWR8L52 - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 20:58:38 EST ID:AP9CBjKi No.893903 Ignore Report Reply
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vaped is more lucid and usually more visual and clearheaded just like green. less muddy, more transparent.

admittedly oral aya can go way further due to the mechanics of administration. still id prefer iv for a massive end of the world trip.
Fuck Dankinhut - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 21:12:14 EST ID:PpDcV0g1 No.893907 Ignore Report Reply
Have you tried AL-LAD? How does ETH compare to it?
Edward Nicklespear - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 23:11:49 EST ID:ROQI7hpe No.893911 Ignore Report Reply
But even IV would only last for a 1-3 hours. Oral still feels pretty clear to me. Honestly I think the intensity gradient it goes is more gentle and easy to accept. From what I've read true ayahuasca vs mimosa the true ayahuasca sounds more gentle. Probably due to fewer analogs present but who knows. Still I think it peaks higher than vaped regardless of dose. I mean how would you vape 500mg and ingest god knows how more by way of analogs?

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Priscilla Gallerbut - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 16:42:44 EST ID:+CCNC2SQ No.893803
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In a couple days I'm going to trip on lsd and go see estas tonne. The plan is to take one or maybe 2 tabs earlier in the day and then go while I'm still tripping good. Though I've noticed my passed couple trips I had a bit of anxiety about going out in public, I'm wondering how many hours before the show should I take it? I'm thinking somewhere between 5 or 7 hours
Jack Habblewell - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:49:12 EST ID:Oy3T14mI No.893899 Ignore Report Reply
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If you already have a ride I'd suggest about 5 hours

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Clark Kent - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 23:43:00 EST ID:m+G0bsbP No.893472
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It blew my mind. So trippy and psychedelic. 10/10 Love the cool, underwater nautical theme
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William Monnerluck - Wed, 05 Dec 2018 17:40:18 EST ID:7+mmW8XR No.893745 Ignore Report Reply
Pork roll eggs and cheese - ween
Oliver Blibberpug - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 12:47:58 EST ID:LxGNP0+b No.893856 Ignore Report Reply
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I think that white pepper, quebec and pure guava are also great albums to trip to. Pure guava being the most experimental and white pepper is the most accessible. Quebec and the mollusk are somewhere in between. Highly recommend ween, but they're not one of those bands that's really gonna grow on you over time so if you don't "get it" after listening to some of their more accessible stuff you just likely won't gel with them at all which is fine; ween fans aren't really the type to give you shit for not liking them. But we are off-puttingly passionate about this band, it's an odd but very loving family to be part of.

Deaner did an "interview" for the 20th anniversary, about the writing and recording experience. I thought it was a great read but I'm a big fan so ymmv. https://www.stereogum.com/1951136/weens-the-mollusk-turns-20-an-oral-history-by-mickey-melchiondo/franchises/the-anniversary/
Jack Habblewell - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:31:18 EST ID:Oy3T14mI No.893898 Ignore Report Reply
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I fucking loved it on my last trip.

Thanks for sharing!

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Henry Pettingdale - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 02:00:25 EST ID:tGB2Xbxm No.893834
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Plan to take a milligram of acid, hoping to achieve ego death, is adding rue to it a good idea for my second time ever with acid, given that I've never tried rue before, or will it just be a distraction?
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Johnny Cumbleberry - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:51:07 EST ID:5ldaUGtE No.893889 Ignore Report Reply
>>893888 was in reference to >>893845
You may be willing to have a bad trip, but experience is what makes a bad trip beneficial, and something you can analyze. Without more experience at lower doses, a bad trip will just leave you confused, probably not ideal if you're looking for a solution.
Basil Claywater - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 15:11:16 EST ID:ZaERf1XK No.893895 Ignore Report Reply
I agree with this statement. Ive used rue and other potentiators and this makes your trip really hard to handle tbh
Jack Habblewell - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:31:27 EST ID:Oy3T14mI No.893896 Ignore Report Reply
>In any case, I don't mind having a bad trip, it's not like acid can hurt me in any way, objectively speaking. So long as it will have positive effect on my mental health in the long run, I'm ready to accept anything.
I really get the feeling you're ready to give in to the acid. However thinking you're ready and then having your expectation subverted and facing an experience you weren't ready for is even worse. Still I feel like you're the kind of dude who doesn't have anything to lose and you seem kind of aware of the dangers so I wish you the best of luck in your psychonautical travels!

Also how did the trip go? 1mg is huge

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Henry Dullynotch - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 17:34:48 EST ID:nmbovpv/ No.893804
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Gonna do a nice line of that in a few minutes, wish me luck!
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Nicholas Chigglehall - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:33:02 EST ID:+yD/h3EV No.893847 Ignore Report Reply
I read a lot of great endorsements of this molecule, took 15mg and felt barely anything (very basic drifting textures, size distortion, etc. with a stimulating body high and very weak geometry if any) obviously will take more when I have the right time to try something unfamiliar at a higher dose. Let me know how you find it OP, also insufflated that's weird cos it's a very short trip and insufflated usually is even shorter (...right?).

Also has anyone combined with MDMA? Interesting combo as 4homet is very visual with less change in headspace than other psychs (and I like the MDMA headspace more for social settings, especially with others who aren't tripping). I've read that 4homet is really wildly dosage-dependent though, can anyone else confirm this?
Eliza Diffinghood - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 13:09:11 EST ID:nmbovpv/ No.893868 Ignore Report Reply
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Reporting back, the trip was awesome, can't wait to do it again.

Probably some ald-52/eth-lad too then,
Johnny Cumbleberry - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:55:55 EST ID:5ldaUGtE No.893890 Ignore Report Reply
Honestly, even though 30mg is generally view as a high dose, I'd say that's the real starter dose. To me, 30mg is comparable to a 100-150ug LSD trip.

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