/psy/ Psychedelic Discussion
Hey /psy/, Going on my first trip in a week or two, shrooms, 2 gramsI plan to take it in my room after i get it spic span and cozy. I plan on taking it when I feel pretty good in the morning after a walk and shower. My brother in law will be around, and he's tripped before. Any tips or hints from you guys would be welcome
>>890921Actually doing them this Monday. I was limited by availability untill this week
>>890220wow, just was looking through old /pys/, and found my old thread. thanks for advice dudes. i had three trips since (2g,3.5g, 4.0+) of varing difficulty. i found all rewarding though. so agian thanks.
>>893016we love you m9 nb
Just dosed an eighth of Brazilian Cubensis, hasnt't hit yet. But just in case, does anyone here have an experience using small doses of kratom to kill bad trips? Any tips?
yes. it works. you'll puke. but it works.
>>892964Kava would probably work better than kratom as kava helps with anxiety which fuels bad trips.
>>892984>anxiety fuels my subjective idea of what a bad trip is
>anxiety fuels my subjective idea of what a bad trip is
Hey lads. So I finally got around to growing shrooms, and I was wondering if any of you have ever found or used shrooms to help with your clinical depression.What do you think?
Shrooms will never help your clinical depression.Regular depression is like sitting in a boat and there's a sudden rainstorm and your boat's now fulla water. Shrooms are the bucket that you use to scoop that water out of your boat and do boaty things.Clinical depression is like sitting in a leaking boat fulla water. You can get your shrooms and scoop the water out of your leaking boat, but a bucket can't fix that hole in your boat. When you put that bucket away, the water is just going to come back.It's a solution to the problem yes. But it's not a permanent solution. It's a messy solution. I have a lot of friends that deal with this, and they all prefer to just use medication for their clinical depression because it's easier than shroomieshroomies and when you have some serious heavy duty "I just want to fucking diiiiiiiiiiiiiiie" depression you don't want a fucking bucket to get the water out of your leaking boat, you want that fucking hole in your boat patched up.
>>892987Maybe it's a different philosophy of use I have from other people or I can't tolerate psychedelics as well but while they do make me feel good in certain ways (it's like a 'we gonna make it in the long haul' sort of feel) it's not in any way an /escape/ for me and it's quite the opposite. They make everything real and present and if there's a bad mental set for whatever reason, you are confronted with it. Especially with mushrooms opposed to say 2CB or DMT. They are stern teachers to me. Have you personally been through this sort of escapist cycle or known people who have? I really feel bad for you if so. I've heard of someone doing a bunch of DMT like a weekend bender, but then she went off her meds and got put in a psych ward for a day or two.
>>893000whoops, i meant she went off her meds before-during the many DMT trips nb
Where do I find dmt in a City?
>>892954Lol going to go murder some one and Extrakt it from theme
>>892969Fuck that, I'm not going to prison. I'm just going to smoke myself
>>892969You should watch the film Banshee Chapter
starting with an obscure but obvious one
>>892950good one, benzydaminer :-) now try me
>>8929513 ho pcpy?
I’ve made up my mind to trip again this Sunday. My question is, how much of a step up from 150 mics (which was pretty intense for me but left me wanting more, even after having an edible on the comedown) is about 375 mics of AL-LAD and is there any additional preparation needed for a large dose? I’ve done AL-LAD twice already and I feel as if I’m pretty sensitive to it as even 90mics was a LOT my first time.I feel as if my mind is really badly craving a good trip. Last night I even had a brief experience of seeing low complexity geometric patterns in the blankets such as one sees on AL-LAD when I was getting excited about taking it all day.
>>892957Yeah, it's not very pleasant tripping hard around people that don't understand it well. I only have a couple of close friends, but they're very understanding, well versed people. I actually really enjoy trip sitting people. I've trip sat for beginners more than a few times, and I've hosted several group trips at my place involving 5-7 people, which my friends always commented later that they had a blast. It's great to have a house that can be wandered around, as well as a fairly secluded back yard or forested area that can be explored. A big tv that you can put music or a movie on, a clean open floor with pillows where you can stretch our and roll around, various fruits and light snacks just in case, and even a small light machine that projects different colored lights all over the room. It's pretty obvious when a person starts having a rough time. Their face usually gets a blank expression while they stare off into nothing, they might start mumbling or talking to themselves, and they can become unresponsive. At the point where they stop responding to you it can be difficult to bring them back. I would suggest turning on some light, upbeat music or a very, very soft, happy video. This might get their attention and keep them going further down the hole. I highly suggest against constant attempts to get their attention by talking to or interacting with them. Usually you just want to do nothing at all if possible and just let them sit their and ride it out. Physically restraining a person is a really bad idea too unless they're trying to hurt themselves.
>>892957OP here. Wow, that sounds incredibly traumatizing. I’m sorry you had that experience. My boyfriend will be tripsitting me and he is very experienced with psychedelics. He even did 3 bottles of cough syrup once and had a similar experience you did with AL-LAD.
>>892959Couldn't agree with you more on how to deal with people whose trip is going south. During the experience I detailed earlier, my friends later finally gave up on trying to get me to snap out of it and very soon after that the very same trip turned incredibly blissful. I was still deluded but in the compete opposite way. What was hell before became heaven when I was just left alone to deal with it. Too bad that was near the end of the peak and I didn't get to enjoy it for too long before landing back into my body again.>>892961Sounds good OP, just make sure you're feeling positive if you're going through with the 375ug plan, and do it somewhere where you're sure you won't be disturbed for the entire duration of the trip. If your boyfriend hasn't dealt with people on high doses before (even though he's taken them himself), I'd still suggest he reads some good tripsitting material, it wouldn't hurt. Having a benzo handy wouldn't hurt either.Just know that the experience will be very much on you. Your boyfriend could be great support but if you find yourself in weird/difficult situations you'll still have to deal with them on your own, he can only push you in the right direction. Good luck!
is it just to get lost again? currently trying that and it's working pretty well
>>892590This. Thank you beyond the grave Herr Junger.
>>892584If you see thru the matrix, get $$$ donate it to 420chan
Has anyone here listened to James Kent's / DoseNation's eight (out of ten) podcast episodes on "the darker side of psychedelic culture"?
>>892921First episode http://www.dosenation.com/listing.php?smlid=8839The rest can be found on the homepage http://www.dosenation.com
It's refreshing to see someone stand up for recreational use of psychedelics publicly.
Is https://www.wholecelium.com/ legit or just an elaborate scam? I would really like to get my hands on some shrooms, but they are quite rare in my country.
Find them or do you know where any fly agarics are try that
get a shroom kit from zamnesia instead. they're pretty great, you can flush em like 10 times
>>892811Would recommend, I got about 50 grams on my first batch and it took less than 3 weeks, even though it was my first time. Kits are still illegal in most parts of the EU though.
Hello fellow substance abusers,I had a confusing situation I was dealing with, and I oft find myself in these.Why is it that it is not uncommon for people to talk about otherworldly beings? Do you think it is as a way of reflecting upon your own understanding separately as possible? How could you differentiate it from an intrusive thought? Even if there were a way to benefit from this ordeal, how can you draw the line between self criticism and wishful-magical thinking psychosis? I feel left out most because of already knowing everything I know and these "persons" addressing my exact loss for any doubt or really any loose feeling thought-pattern.Or do you actually think they are something,,, truly beyond understanding of any which we already have?I ask your most ludicrous ideas alone in this matter, and I couldn't want more, thank you.
>>892926Would the shedding of certainty not leave a person agnostic? How could they choose to believe in something one way or the other? What if these beings only exist in your own mind? What if they're real, but only to you? What if none of you are real, and I don't exist? Are the people in my dreams as real as the people I see when I'm awake? How do I know any of my conscious experience is even happening at all? Does any of this matter?
People talk about otherworldly beings because we're simply apes that have learned to act human.Our minds might be human, but our brains are still ape brains.And an ape cannot imagine a force without some plant, fungal or animal agent behind it.So our brains automatically assign a "entityness" to whatever we experience, and only the mind can say "Ay hol up, makes no sense for this force to be an entity you fucking stupid monkey brain!"
>>892927Bingo, on that level though reality can sort of be verified by a collective critical consensus. Nobody every really has exactly the same hallucination or dream so sharing the exact same experience in reality when measured with objectivity offers some baseline for "real". Now as for this particular biological form's capacity to perceive and understand all the input presented who knows really. All those rhetorical questions of existential crisis are good and dandy, but I think we both know that within that uncertainty about gods and spirits it can be said that purpose and meaning are not to be found in the laws of nature, it is our job to create it. As for me when I did large doses of DMT I found it did leave me leaning agnostic, but it also convinced me there's something more enduring to the nature of conciousness itself. It's a hard feeling to describe but it does feel almost otherworldly.
can a pcp dose fit on blotter paper or lsd be laced with pcp?
I highly doubt it. I'm pretty sure pcp is not active in small enough amounts
>>892925it would be difficult but not impossible.
It differs so much from L, people would definitely see what's going on, it's likea cutting coke with fent but hey, that happend already so who knows?
Hello, maybe the title isn't as comprehensive, but I've been giving this thought some consideration.You know how you can use psychedelics at festivals (doofs) to enhance the experience, have a good time - just mainly with the intention of party purposes - right?And you can also use them alone, in a safe/comfortable place (e.g. your bedroom) to try and get inside your head, maybe reflect on some things or work out some issues within.Although with both (more notably the latter), there is always the chance of running into "difficult moments" (i.e. bad trips). But I've come to notice that because at festivals you are bombarded with pleasant sensory distractions (lasers, fucking good choonz, etc); falling, and being stuck in those bad trips seems to be less frequent. This is, at least, what I've personally experienced.I'm not saying that you *can't* have amazing realizations/epiphanies at festivals, because you definitely can - one of the most pivotal points in my life (practicing a martial art) was because I was tripping at a festival - but it just seems more challenging to go really deep within yourself with all that distraction around.I'm considering tripping in a float tank to see how deep into my mind I can go without all that noise...Curious to hear what anyone else's thought/opinions on this topic may be.tl;dr is psytrance made in a way to distract you from your own [negative] thoughts so you can have a good time dancing while you're tripping? Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>892879read Industrial Society and Its Future or Against Civilization. They're still probably too primitivist for me though. Also bombing people is stupid
>>892870Humanity is bad for nature now.Yes.But the future is different. The earthly biosphere is already dead anyway. In only a few billion years, the Sun will burn up all surface water on Earth, and all life will fucking die.By then, the only chance for life to survive is to be spread across the universe by... humans.
Yo. Anyone /bipolar/ here? I've been on lithium for about 4 months... I was going to trip for the first time since the blizzard in April. I just found out that if I take LSD then I'll probably have a seizure. What do you guys know? Can I take mushrooms? Can What's going on? Should I stop taking lithium for a couple months and then try? This is really bumming me out my dudes.
>>892909Interesting, never heard lithium could/would do that. Can you substitute another medication that produces the same results, or supposed to. Anyway, two months would likely be fine. Though, maybe just start a new drug, say it isn't agreeing woth you, and still wait for a considerable amount of time. Shrooms, never heard any issues with anti depressants, etc. Smoking a lot of good pot makes me kinda trip, if I were to. Maybe just stick with that and a amount of shrooms. Research I guess.
Advice on solo tripping? Thinking about dropping solo first time but I'm not sure what to do. My goal for the trip would be introspection and self-discovery.
>>892816>>892867This, I love tripping alone. just doing what I want with nobody watching me.Just relax and go with the flow and you'll be ok, if its too much there's always Tripsit.mePersonally I find watching a movie/gaming a waste of time, I can hardly focus on something that rly demands my attention, also I can watch a movie when sober.I usually end up listning to music, watching the sky/tree's, getting lost in on my own thoughts or following the closed eye visualsEnjoy your trip:)
My first and many times tripping were solo, I think it's really nice.Here, have an album I listened to while tripping for the very first time joyously by myself in my dorm room. It was winter, most of my friends had gone. I wish there was a monastic life I could live that gave me the college feelings.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTXnju3lEIAThis was back when I enjoyed writing. I scoffed at the upcoming experience a bit, and was writing in a notebook as the whole thing was settling in."Much" later I recall seeing a sliver of light on the ceiling, someone opening the door to my room. "Are you awake?" They asked. The music at this point was quite ridiculous. I pretended to be asleep, and the sliver withdrew as they shut the door.I got away with it.Later I looked at what I had been writing about: it was all scribbles
Have some benzos/anti-psychs on hand, they're basically an eject button should a bad trip occur. Just having them within reach makes sure that I don't panic if I trip alone, because I know that I can kill it within 30 minutes.
Just about any other preparation is preferable to boiling. Personally, I'm a fan of roasti... ↵
>it goes on for a half hour, and we are now already 5 minutes over run past 11pm eastern,... ↵
Suck onto my dick.... ↵
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