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Vaping dmt after drinking Kava Kava

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- Tue, 21 May 2019 22:24:59 EST vwFRcti1 No.895517
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Does anyone have any experience with this? And help would be greatly appreciated.
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Martin Hocklefuck - Wed, 22 May 2019 14:01:22 EST jl4B8s9v No.895523 Reply
>>895517
seems to me like it would just be another synergistic, safe effect and you'll mostly perceive the action of the DMT so that it would be almost pointless to do the Kava. Are you trying to do a ritual or something OP?

Penis Envy mushrooms?

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- Thu, 16 May 2019 23:01:56 EST 3t3xnuLi No.895432
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Sup /psy/, never tripped shrooms so I bought two grams of cubes from my dealer. He said the strain, penis envy, is fucking turbocharged and said 1g of it should be a good trip, but everything I've ever read says a good shrooms trip would be around 2-4 grams. Will 1 gram really do the trick? Or should I take both grams
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Clara Turveyfoot - Tue, 21 May 2019 02:31:26 EST bfB0voM7 No.895498 Reply
>>895433
>soak in lemon juice 20mins
Why? Literally why? The reason to acidify mushrooms is to convert the psilocybin to psilocin, which shortens the onset by about ten to twenty minutes. If you're doing this, it's something done the night before, otherwise you've just wasted time. Also, lemonade is sufficient in ph.
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Esther Blucklebig - Tue, 21 May 2019 02:49:54 EST ivpB8JNW No.895499 Reply
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>>895498
supposedly, the acid would spontaneously allow for the dephosphorylation of the psilocybin via hydrolysis, but that doesn't really make sense because this would be self-limiting.
I read your post on "Active Discussions" and I'm hypothesizing here, but I believe you are right. In humans, the pathway that the psilocybin goes though is via human phosphatase in the small intestine.
Following this logic, if you wanted to do this reaction ahead of time, the easiest way to do it would be to use the phosphatase of a food culture product. Lactobacillus of yogurt or kefir might work for this.

I don't have any mushrooms for independent research, but can anyone who has shrooms do me a favor for science and powder your shrooms and combine with yogurt to test this? The shrooms would work either way but the Lactobacillus should dephosphorylate the psilocybin faster than acid alone because of enzymic action of the live culture. Thank you.

also, anyone who is actually studied in O-chem should school me if I'm wrong on this, because I'm only Computational Biology and you actually do the math on the electrochemistry of this better than I could
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Phoebe Gallerbanks - Wed, 22 May 2019 00:19:29 EST 8miTfqG+ No.895518 Reply
>>895498
>why?
> to convert the psilocybin to psilocin

...did you have a question? It doesn't have to be done the night before, 20 or 30 minutes should be more than sufficient. and it does much more than shorten the onset. In my experience, it shortens the duration of the trip and increases the intensity of effects. It's almost as if it has converted the psilocybin into psilocin, instead of letting your body do the heavy lifting.

snort it up your butthole for all I care, just telling you what has worked for me.

I'd avoid lemonade, personally, because I find consuming shitloads of sugar before a trip to be unpleasant.

Friend suffering from anxiety attacks took mushrooms for the first time and I'm a bit worried

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- Tue, 21 May 2019 19:49:29 EST vbqRCKE/ No.895511
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A friend of mine took mushrooms for the first time last weekend, and now she's not talking anymore. She says she needs time to get over the mushrooms and digest the experience. Is she ok?

She had anxiety attacks before so she was hoping mushrooms would help but maybe it made it worse?
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Hugh Clirringhall - Tue, 21 May 2019 19:55:58 EST MU5DQUTc No.895512 Reply
just give her time man let her do her thing


LSD and SSRIs

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- Sat, 18 May 2019 14:43:57 EST +IjnEx5g No.895469
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Recently my brother gave me half a tab of LSD. However, I'm taking 100mgs of Zoloft. I heard that Zoloft diminishes the trip and I'm slightly concerned because I've waited awhile to try LSD (never tripped before). Should I refrain from taking Zoloft for a day prior to taking the tab? Also, would weed help increase the trip?
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Ian Fandlemane - Sat, 18 May 2019 15:05:00 EST 8miTfqG+ No.895470 Reply
>>895469
I wouldn't combine the effects of LSD with the effects of going off a SSRI that you've been taking for a while. There's likely much built up in your system that it would take a break of a week or more to begin to have an affect, and then you've got SSRI discontinuation syndrome to deal with.
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OP - Sun, 19 May 2019 20:16:33 EST +IjnEx5g No.895488 Reply
Initial blast-off was terrifying, but weed mellowed it out. I've had time dilation all day has thrown me off. Time slows to a crawl. My sense perception is very disconnected and my identity is fragmenting. Not much in the way of visuals, though I feel like a robot steering a ship that is myself.

Faces are morphing, that's about it.

Mushrooms Psylocybin or True Classic LSD

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- Tue, 30 Apr 2019 05:23:40 EST bswic2N0 No.895125
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im my opinion, mushrooms is nicer to "enter this world" (first time experience).
But I wanna know your opinion guys, what you would try or tried?

Tell me your experiences and your preferences guys! tks
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Fuck Turveyworth - Wed, 01 May 2019 18:54:37 EST KfVrDcD5 No.895155 Reply
>>895125
At lower doses it is a little more difficult to discern differences between the two so it shouldn’t be too important which one is done first.
At moderate to higher doses, the differences are pretty prominent. LSD is more stimulatory, and for me, it is very cerebral in many ways, where as shrooms is more relaxing but way more emotional
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Jenny Wengerfoot - Wed, 01 May 2019 21:43:31 EST IUfz5v9T No.895158 Reply
>>895125

Just mentioned in another post here >>895157 that psy cubensis was my first experience ever tripping. I don't regret it in any way because I experienced a lot of the most prominent classic effects of psychedelics such as open and closed eye visual hallucinations (faces appearing on objects, grass outside turning into fractals), aural hallucinations, increased emotions, and strange thoughts. I can only imagine LSD at a beginners dose would be a fairly similar experience, other than the length and slightly more visual intensity (patterning, flowing wood grain on tabletops).

I almost always hear people say they had a blast tripping their first time using LSD, but I've also heard a complaint that it can last too long. The duration is honestly the only factor that would put shrooms ahead of LSD, whereas they would otherwise be equal. I think the 3-5 hour range of a lower psilocybin dose is the perfect amount of time to get your feet wet and experience a moderate range of effects. I actually enjoyed the 3.2g shroom trip that I referred to in my linked post (my third ever trip and strongest yet) so much that I was a little sad that it was ending as I was coming down.

LSD usually leaves me feeling a little more worn out when I'm down than shrooms, but it's also anywhere from 2-3 times longer depending on dose, and a lot more physically stimulating. It's not nearly as dream-like as mushrooms were for me, but it's led to some incredibly intense thought patterns. Imagine what a fractal pattern looks like, and then imagine your thoughts being fractal. The two are definitely much different experiences on moderate to high doses. The mushrooms are typically considered a more "spiritual" experience, or existential even, but they both conveyed some heavily philosophical experiences, including "one-ness." This is a sensation I get where I physically feel connected to everything around me, as if my body was some how connected to the deepest reaches of the universe.
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Shitting Wungerstot - Sun, 19 May 2019 12:14:12 EST jl4B8s9v No.895484 Reply
>>895125
I'm always happy talking about my first experience. ~3g mushroom with one friend in a natural-geological area, totally alone, on a Fall day back during the 2013 government shutdown in the US. Absolutely awesome, the only bad part was getting a little too high from weed and then realizing as the afternoon started coming on that we didn't have enough water so we had to turn back but we weren't even two miles in, nothing serious.

I had a few more mushroom experiences before acid, which I also love. I think it's almost necessary to do your first trip in wilderness, so either substance can be used for that. >>895158 mentions the duration of the trip, which is why I think maybe mushrooms are the way to go. If you have LSD, maybe bring some extra things to have at T+8:00 hours like nicotine or a benzo?

I've upset Alan Watts

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- Thu, 16 May 2019 12:45:55 EST ewClpCL3 No.895406
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I left my dried mushrooms in a paper bag in a wooden box for like 5 days like an idiot. That's how I got them and now I'm reading they should be in an airtight container. Are they going to be okay this weekend??

Would Watts Kun be upset with me???
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Esther Challyhood - Sat, 18 May 2019 04:12:45 EST H5scLNnq No.895461 Reply
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>>895406
I'm glad someone enjoyed that as much as I did.

In a Mason jar now. No mold, no blackness, just dark brown grey goodness. You all have put my mind at ease.
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Nigel Blugglecocke - Sun, 19 May 2019 05:28:52 EST H5scLNnq No.895480 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE

Am I retarded?

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- Fri, 17 May 2019 01:40:33 EST +tISzzjL No.895437
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Maybe this is just high me being high but I think I'm too dumb to get visuals.


I've tripped lots of times, mainly 4ho and related but also a lot of cid and shroomies and while I get the rare visual distortion I've never had a full on oev visual or hallucination. Like at all. No faces, no elves, no wall breathing, and really nothing that hasn't looked out of the ordinary. The most I've gotten and can discribe is a rainbow wave effect that kind of costed over my vision. I get these sometimes, and I can't always say as to what's real and imaginary while tripping but I really haven't seen anything crazy yet. For now I guess I stick with my rare rainbow effect I the hopes I see something... my CEVs are usually great on shrooms/4ho only and more so to the shrroms, but combined with the weed I tend to fall asleep



I don't want to kms but should I just boof like 250mg of 4-ho-dmt with a bunch of underdoesed tabs to see where the fuck I go?
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Hedda Bloggleherk - Fri, 17 May 2019 10:59:06 EST +tISzzjL No.895448 Reply
I've gone to 5 tabs of underdosed Lucy before, still very similar results albeit with more distortions. I don't have access to lsd as much as I'd like so I usually end up saving it for some time. The only way I've been able to get reliable OEVs is with a boof of 4ho-met but that's at like 100mg and most of the time the body load is so heavy it's not a great time
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Shit Sucklebanks - Fri, 17 May 2019 17:38:50 EST vCJg6gIY No.895456 Reply
>>895437
i have a theory a lot of "LSD" flotting around isn't actual LSD-25, but LSD-1P which would explain weak visuals
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Cyril Sendlesidge - Fri, 17 May 2019 19:29:36 EST gUf74byl No.895457 Reply
>>895456
Is 1p that different? I know I've taken mostly 1p or ald 52 with the rare gamma lgoblin tab coming up every now and again. I was under the assumption that 1p was basically the same as lsd25??

Best "Flip" ?

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- Thu, 16 May 2019 07:43:03 EST +LzLThWL No.895398
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I could've posted this in /mdma/ but it's even more dead over there.

Anyway, I have some 2cb, 4-aco-dmt, lsd, 4-ho-met and n,n dmt at my disposal.

Gonna roll on sunday so I was wondering:
-Has anyone tried mdma with 4-ho-met or other less-known psychs (also interested in 2cb but that's quite widespread now)? How was it?
-What is the best psychedelic to take with mdma?
-What about DMT, is it possible to breakthrough when rolling? Is it worth blowing through all my DMT while rolling? I read one report that said that the effects of the DMT were very muted but I'm not sure why that would be the case.
-(Bonus) What is the best non-psychedelic to combine with mdma? (my vote goes to GHB)
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Hamilton Fuckingbanks - Thu, 16 May 2019 10:44:34 EST +LzLThWL No.895403 Reply
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>>895402
Ah yes candyflip, the classic. I was hoping to try something new though, but if someone with experience of other combos says they aren't worth it I guess that's what I'll go for.

I've been trying to find erowid reports but it's difficult to find combos with just one single psych and mdma, the vaults seem full of reports where they took like dpt, 3meo-pcp, dxm, mdma and ibogaine all together lol.
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Suge Nicotine - Thu, 16 May 2019 21:47:25 EST WswcrlsV No.895430 Reply
>>895398
>What is the best non-psychedelic to combine with mdma?
I don't intend to endorse the use of mdma in anyway, but my favorite accessory drug to mix with anything other than DMT is nitrous oxide. Even by itself it's a nice relaxation aid. A nice icing for any cake.
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Fucking Cunningbudge - Fri, 17 May 2019 04:46:38 EST mA3j4fW5 No.895441 Reply
Dude, you just *have to* try lsd + dxm. I know you asked about other stuff but I feel.the need to recommend this mix to everyone everywhere. It's crazy. Beautiful, strange visuals, nice body high and euphoria, I even had OOBE.when I peaked. And afterglow made me enjoy my life like never before.

Driving and small(ish) doses of lsd

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- Fri, 17 May 2019 00:58:21 EST B1bgQ2GU No.895434
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Okay so I know I'm an absolute dumbass moron for doing this.... But for 600+ mile journeys in one day it makes a world of difference.

Also driving through Utah on 1/2 to a full tab is mind bending, definetly recommended although probably best if the trippie was not driving tho. I had a hell of a time and kinda had a mini breakthrough? In terms of of perspective, I mean; just driving through gives me a glimpse of how small we are compared to just our world, let alone the univseral scale. Gives me hope that all the money and things we make really can't compare to what's outside. And, at the end of the day nothing terrible happened, I may have actually been a better driver while on cid.

Idk, on a scale of 1 - absolute-retard where would this fall?
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Lydia Brookham - Fri, 17 May 2019 01:16:51 EST B1bgQ2GU No.895435 Reply
>Oh I guess I should add; I don't get visuals or anything of the sort OEV wise until 4 tabs (mineare probs under dosed so I think like 3.5) or well into the 80-100mg boof of 4-aco-dmt/met or about 2.5 G of shrroms. Idk why but I have a very high tolerance for these things. Either that or I really am that dumb and my brain can't make visuals

Shaman in the classical sense going to take shrooms for the first time

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- Thu, 16 May 2019 10:26:23 EST y5BEmS7t No.895400
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Could use some wisdom/music recs
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Henry Gorrynet - Thu, 16 May 2019 10:47:46 EST /KQI97Tp No.895404 Reply
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I've been diving really deep into more "atmospheric" shit over the past few months. Try these out though be warned, a lot of them are on the darker side of things:

Spacemen 3 - Dreamweapon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7-61FEHhAA

Klaus Shulze - Irrlicht - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_sZ3dt7YUQ&t
- Timewind - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBn0Jnf7_3M&t

Tangerine Dream - Zeit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjvF36gzLF8&t

Hash Jar Tempo - Under Glass - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQZrPZTCb6o&t

Bardo Pond - Amanita - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRGHUeh7gcw&list=PLxKZdD7KDu41MbQ2iK1rShiRUP1TMR4nZ
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Hamilton Fuckingbanks - Thu, 16 May 2019 10:50:47 EST +LzLThWL No.895405 Reply
You've already posted literally the best album to trip to. Check out king gizzard and the lizard wizard, esp. their albums nonagon infinity and microtonal banana. For electronic stuff I usually stick to boards of canada, brian eno, and japanese new age music from the 80s (Hiroshi Yoshimura in particular, very minimal and good to trip to) or actually a lot of the weirder city pop or funk from Japan is great too, like Haruomi Hosono (Omni Sight Seeing is a particular favourite, as well as Pacific). Failing that, any ambient is always a great choice.

Salvia

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- Tue, 14 May 2019 05:18:16 EST bapGxKb9 No.895345
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Salvia's the only hallucinogen I've ever had, I did 30x twice and for the mostpart I didn't feel like I learned much about myself or the universe or whatever. Wasn't orgasmic or funny hit it wasn't quite unpleasant either, getting up and walking the stairs immediately after is kind of a bitch though. Some of you guys have said that Salvia's more dissociative than psychedelic. Is there a proper setting, mind set, or preparation any of you do to get the most out of a salvia trip? Curious what you guys think
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Lillian Himbledock - Tue, 14 May 2019 08:49:14 EST uQEbsVLe No.895347 Reply
>>895346
That happened to me on 12+ grams of mushrooms before. That's part of ego loss, I was the corner of a table in the living room area. It was cold and stiff and felt uncomfortable. I didn't like it but it wasn't unbearable either, just kind of annoying.
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Charlotte Hommledin - Tue, 14 May 2019 09:19:41 EST bapGxKb9 No.895349 Reply
>>895346
I learned that when I took two 80 oxycontins after I got my wisdom teeth removed, but it was fucking awesome
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Albert Greendale - Thu, 16 May 2019 10:31:13 EST 3IaRijp3 No.895401 Reply
>>895345

You won't "learn" anything about yourself or the universe on psychedelics. That's just something losers who have nothing else going on in their life circle jerk about.

Polar-Nonpolar LSA extraction

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- Sun, 12 May 2019 22:47:23 EST 7UpK6wM2 No.895325
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Anyone got any protips for a polar-nonpolar LSA extraction?
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Fucking Cabberkitch - Mon, 13 May 2019 05:55:59 EST bDYMg8HY No.895329 Reply
>>895325
You don't need it. I figured out and easier way with just water, cheese cloth, paper towels and patients. It yields and unbelievably nausea free experience and doesn't lose any other lysergamides.
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Matilda Seddleman - Mon, 13 May 2019 13:19:35 EST WWVcVP+8 No.895332 Reply
>>895329
Still tastes nasty as fuck though. Its like drinking liquid potting soil.

Datura

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- Tue, 14 May 2019 22:26:51 EST 7xMwR6AO No.895364
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newfag here

what should i try that's similar to datura? i'm mainly attracted to the realistic hallucinations and not a fan of the existential horror and the thirst/piss part.

i heard stories that someone saw that they were in world war II with nazis all over the place and with tamagotchis in their alarm clocks, and i wanna see that kind of shit too
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Jarvis Hozzlebanks - Wed, 15 May 2019 02:26:22 EST WWVcVP+8 No.895367 Reply
>>895364

Hallucinations and visuals of psychedelics are nothing like Datura, which is a deliriant.

With deliriants, you will see realistic hallucinations and will likely not be able to differentiate them from real life. This is very hazardous as you may do some really stupid shit when in the depths of delirium. Your memory and awareness will be very impaired and can put you into a state similar to that of someone who has dementia or Alzheimer's. Complete blackouts are are possible and you may not remember large portions of your trip. The 'existential horror' is really just you reacting naturally to what you're perceiving, i.e. if you're terrified of spiders in real life, you will be terrified of the spiders you see while tripping. Datura can also be very dangerous because there is no reliable way to measure doses since the plants chemicals vary from one plant to another. Datura is for all intents and purposes poisonous, and it's use should not be taken lightly should you choose to partake.

With psychedelics, the hallucinations are not realistic and more more like distortions at low doses. Visuals at high doses look nothing like you'd see in real life, but believability varies person to person and dose to dose. You can get the same 'existential horrors' during a shroom or acid trip, but it's because you are in a significantly different headspace than that of a deliriant.
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Barnaby Gungerdock - Wed, 15 May 2019 19:16:35 EST EjtKPLG2 No.895393 Reply
>>895364
Deliriants aren't as scary or horrible as everyone told me they were gonna be I took dimenhydrinate with dxm and I'd recommend trying it but you got to have a good setting to even remotely enjoy it. the most important thing about your setting is that you have to be alone! If there's other's around you that don't know your tripping your gonna have a hell of a time because when you see and hear them you won't know how to react (If they are real and you ignore them they will be suspicious but if they are a hallucination and you start talking and interacting with them the real them might hear you and know that something's up) I never had any problems pissing at all and I didn't see or hear anything i thought was scary or terrifying the thing's i saw and heard were just weird interesting and somewhat eeire. the dry throat on the other hand was very real and shitty my dumb delirious ass forgot to bring water with me when I went for a long walk and Because i was dehydrated i blacked out for about 30 minutes definitely have water on standby if your gonna do it.

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