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Nathaniel Billingdock - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 18:02:51 EST ID:/KQI97Tp No.893366
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I've tripped a number of times and one question I ask is how can I enjoy a trip more? Sometimes I plan a little bit in advance like movies to watch or music to listen to or other activities, and other times I hardly plan anything and just sort of go with what comes. Is it just me, or does adding too much structure sometimes kill the "magic"? At the same time, sitting around not doing much feels like I'm wasting time when I could be finding more ways to engage. Problem is, finding cool ways to have fun during a trip is a lot easier when you're sober. It seems like the best way to deal with this is by just coming up with a few ideas before and then doing what feels right. What do you guys think? Or is this just me.
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Hannah Bevingsod - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:58:28 EST ID:sFQnZjK+ No.893381 Ignore Report Reply
You're right, trying to impose too much structure on the trip is likely to hurt it. In my opinion a trip is all about releasing yourself from normal "structured" life and just going with the flow. It's good to have music, some eye candy to look at, some nice food, paper and pencil, but you shouldn't go into the trip with plans like "okay, for the first 2 hours I'll do this then for the next 2 I'll do that", just do whatever you feel like doing at any given time. I remember trying to put too much structure into my trips and it felt like I was always awaiting the next thing, checking the time, etc. when in actuality I had been where I wanted to be from the start. Even in the middle of a trip I was failing to live in the moment.

"Doing nothing" isn't wasting the trip, since your brain will be extremely active and more of your perception will be focused on the inner world. Engaging with activities can be fun but it distracts from the inner journey a trip can provide and that never seems to get boring for me since there's always some unexplored corner of the mind. From my experience, those activities are best left for the second half of the trip and the peak is best spent meditating. Of course, a different formula might work out better for you, but you need to get rid of the notion that you're wasting time if you're not engaging in activities during a trip. The trip itself is the activity and the less you focus on other things the more you allow the trip to engulf you so to speak.
Jarvis Ginderford - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:47:12 EST ID:/KQI97Tp No.893383 Ignore Report Reply
Really thoughtful post, thanks anon
Jack Pingernuck - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 08:45:56 EST ID:FseTDh3B No.893395 Ignore Report Reply
Gotta find a balance yo. I typically don't really plan beyond not having anything to do or anywhere to be for the next 24 hours. I feel like planning is a waste of time because the nature of psys is such that things just happen on their own, and trying to fuck around with controlling it is both ineffective (for me) and contrary to the experience itself to begin with.

That's not to say I don't have any kind of habits regarding what I do or anything, but I enjoy the experience much more thoroughly if I just go with the flow of the trip and my mental state/feelings while it's happening. I feel like going against that flow causes or at least raises the potential for psychological resistance/cognitive dissonance.

Truly, I think it's this resistance from trying to control the experience too much instead of letting go that makes bad trips an actual threat to the casual/typical psy user. I've never had a bad trip, but I've had plenty of unpleasant experiences that took place while tripping. The difference here is in degree; I'm not feeling all that good or straight up bad and I accept that it's happening and look for ways to improve things if possible, whereas shit turns into an existential nightmare that scars people for a good while or even potentially for life. When it comes to psys, how you emotionally react shapes your perceptual reality, so if the experience is too stressful and is a big deal for you and you try and hold on for dear life to what pretty much non-existent control you have on what's happening, reality becomes infinite hell.

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Betsy Boshfog - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 21:10:39 EST ID:9VNoxu77 No.893234
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So who's done this
Can you just scale down the ratio of lye and what ever if you are using less material ?
This tek uses 1lb I wanna do 100g...

Is plastic or glass the best vessel to hold the material in.I was going to use either a Demijohn or buy one of them gallon sport drinking containers

Is this the best extraction method ?
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Augustus Brookforth - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:44:40 EST ID:b3wy5aXd No.893386 Ignore Report Reply

only buy prepowdered lol
Fanny Wunninggold - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 22:52:24 EST ID:LTXq2fnd No.893390 Ignore Report Reply
That's the one, and as mentioned before only buy prepowdered
That stuff is a bitch and a half to break down. If you do buy a cheap coffee grinder though make sure it's only for breaking down your syrian rue to make an ayahuasca type drink. I never mix my components to stay in that legal grey area but from what I've read the mimosa ayahuasca seems more brutal than the vine. I've only had the mimosa one bit in my honest opinion good bark isn't worth wasting it all on extraction. Save a quarter of it at least for drinking because that shit is at least as good gram for gram as mushroomsn especially if it's potent.
Martha Blungertun - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 05:33:41 EST ID:9VNoxu77 No.893394 Ignore Report Reply
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Well o half order without reading on the site I was buying of...I seen they had to strains(well two doffrent countries) of mhrb I order it and it came as bark.

It was cheap tho and it seems like they are a very good shamanic herb site..Dunno if I can tell use what it is or not...

Will somthing like this work,if I use garden shears before hand and freeze and thaw twice ?


Or this

I do Actualy want somthing for syrian rue seeds(was going to try micro dosing them)

But at the min I'm thinking If I need somthing a lot better I'd rather just use my money on powdered for now....

>any good smaller dose recipes for me

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Eliza Tillingbury - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 14:43:29 EST ID:sApzNTDT No.893327
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I found this guy's recipe through searching on DMT. Is this legit or shit?

>I have done this countless times, sometimes with higher dosages then these. This is myself still being conservative for you folks. Try this recipe for the Nectar of the Gods:
>7-MeO-9H-indoles: 250-300mg orally. This is Harmaline/Harmine/TetraHydroHarmine combination. This is a legal psychedelic I’ve been using since I was three years old. Beta carboline Reversible MAO Inhibitor is also an anti-depressant. It is legally available from any middle eastern store. My grandmother has been making me inhale Harmala Seed smoke since I was three years old. It’s called “Harmal Ki Dhooni.”
>Now wait half an hour, so you give time until the gut is completely saturated with 7-MeO. I want to completely soak my insides in 7-MeO. This would allow the Mushrooms and the DMT to take full effect. The come up will be much slower and you can actually pay attention to it. It doesn’t hit you like a bullet train.
>The MAO-A enzyme will not destroy N-N-DMT, 4-PO-DMT & 4-HO-DMT proteins if the gut is completely saturated with the inhibitor compound.
>Eat fourteen grams of dry Sacred Mushrooms. Or more if you like more. I take upwards of an ounce sometimes.
Mix 150mg-200mg freebase DMT in citric acid to make DMT-citrate and drink right after the mushrooms, combined with 100mg Harmala alkaloids.
>As soon as you drink that DMT, drop 1mg of LSD-25, 500ug of ETH-LAD, 500ug ALD-52, 500ug AL-LAD, and finally 500ug of 1P-LSD. I want to combine all the lysergamides together. Who says you can’t? Huh? This is my mind. My body. I can experiment the way I see fit.
>Now sit and meditate. Roll joints. Smoke joints. Question yourself.
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Edward Panderbanks - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:18:58 EST ID:ISxOLJCr No.893346 Ignore Report Reply

You're gonna need a lot of joints
Ernest Fancocke - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:59:59 EST ID:/XUiQbDZ No.893348 Ignore Report Reply
Besides taking psychs since 3 years old, let's break this down.

>250-300mg of 7-MeO-9H indole
>14 grams of shrooms
>150-200mg of DMT-citrate
>3mg of various lysergamides
>Copious amounts of cannabis
You're also missing the last part,
>While on the peak of that combined Syrian Rue, Mushroom, DMT, and LSD trip, he smokes at least 100-120mg of NN-DMT in a large tall DAB RIG in a very slow hit, and take the entire 120mg hit in one toke.

Sounds legit my friend, better ask your dealer to start gathering your shit.
Augustus Brookforth - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 20:49:09 EST ID:b3wy5aXd No.893389 Ignore Report Reply
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I've been reading shitposts since I was about 3 years old and I have to say guys that this is one of the more prime examples.

Your grandmothers indoles

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Cyril Diffingwater - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 06:48:18 EST ID:GTVNmDvV No.893377
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Is it worth it ordering lsd from darknet vendors? What I mean is it high risk?
Alice Buzzshit - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 07:17:13 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.893378 Ignore Report Reply

tiny pieces of paper in the mail? not really a risk unless you're on a list or the vendor is.
Augustus Brookforth - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 20:41:32 EST ID:b3wy5aXd No.893388 Ignore Report Reply

The bigger the vendor I say the smaller risk you run of the shit being faux-lsd
Unless it's a scam like fake feedback or something but really how paranoid can you be

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No Hope - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 18:33:01 EST ID:YB1yyBF2 No.893304
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This is my first post here, the only reason me being here is that l hope l can find a dealer that has shrooms/dmt. I did changa only but didn't get a breakthrough. But i'm looking to do 5 grams of shrooms, if any of you guys deal in Sydney, Preferably the inner city area like pyrmont, then please reply.
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' God !!Bwteoy2D - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 18:39:52 EST ID:VMZCCzo4 No.893370 Ignore Report Reply
Waiting is pretty darn easy though mate.
Edwin Cendlepot - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 19:59:22 EST ID:x3h/sDST No.893371 Ignore Report Reply
Isabella Mezzlenodging - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 07:59:55 EST ID:Q1g8Er0w No.893379 Ignore Report Reply
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I don't grow my own. I just find them growing out of wood chips, which tend to be scattered everywhere. Gotta do some research so ya can tell them apart from other shit ya might find. Don't wanna pick ya neighbors strawberries because you couln't identify them.

Crikey, strewth,shit, bugga, farkin hell, sheila, gonna punch some cones brow,. Lot's of words are ours xD

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Caroline Dartridge - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 18:05:07 EST ID:ELpAX+7E No.893354
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greetings, friends!

Is MET truly very similar to DMT? Can you achieve a "breakthrough" experience on MET and you do try for it in the same way (multiple hits over a period of time?) I don't want to risk finding DMT right now so I might try MET.

MET experience descriptions also welcomed

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Cyril Drollerladge - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 03:51:06 EST ID:55z6EL6e No.892966
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Post things that would be awful to see on /psy/
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Archie Bemmlespear - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 21:21:50 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.893269 Ignore Report Reply
>imblyign 9/11 was bad to see
Polly Brookspear - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 16:05:45 EST ID:OFxsFnNS No.893289 Ignore Report Reply
awkward social experiences that you can't get out of because the other person/people are being really clingy
Betsy Nundlefuck - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 02:06:36 EST ID:9QXjfCXe No.893336 Ignore Report Reply
sounds like dating

quasimoto: how the fuck do you trip for a month straight? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Thomas Darryridge - Sat, 27 Oct 2018 03:06:35 EST ID:TjS0pPqu No.893063
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if yr into 'underground/alternative' hip-hop, you might know about the awesomeness that is quasimoto. legend states that the character/album the unseen was created during a week-long shroom binge. however recent findings state that this binge was really a month long.

my question: how the fuck could anyone make that work?

for one, as we all know, psychedelics have an insta-tolerance. if you're tripping for consecutive days, you usually take double what you took before, i think that's a geometric sequence. i can't be bothered to do all the math, but you would need an absolute shit-ton of shrooms. just for that. i might calculate this later.

itt let's figure out how one could pull off a month long shroom binge (note: that is not something you should try doing)
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Barnaby Blatherson - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:28:33 EST ID:orOv8TrE No.893290 Ignore Report Reply

You were hallucinating. None of it was real.
Eugene Sibberfadge - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 21:09:59 EST ID:guFIwrfP No.893308 Ignore Report Reply
Says the guy whose thoughts aren't even real.
Fucking Gillershit - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:14:23 EST ID:orOv8TrE No.893321 Ignore Report Reply

My thoughts exist in physical space, but I don't know if any of this existence is real. Sometimes I think this is all an elaborate illusion designed to trick me into not being god

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Angus Clayfield - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 19:17:52 EST ID:k+HqyHbB No.893200
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To preface this,I was still partly really high when I wrote this, not to mention been up for basically 3 days too, so keep in mind everything i go into about what i take is just to provide an understanding of ... this Just took 5 tabs of acid. It's important to note I take 30mg cymbalta everyday, wnich is an SNRI antidepressant and definitely diminshes the quality of the trip based on how much you have to take to make up for it. Also been up for 2 and a half days after getting my adderall prescription refilled and probably taken a bit less than half of it in three days, and i also take 1g to 1.5g phenibut daily.

thing is, the phenibut, cymbalta, and adderall abuse trifecta causes in me some of the most unique combination of a blending of hallucinations that it causes that it's like a deliriant crossed with more psychedelic tones to them. this gets especially weird when takinng 600mg dxm during this earlier addy binge with phenibut and cymbalta and when smoking weed. it's like the more prominently visual and indepently existent of your experiences that come from like deliarnt use like dph. but at the same time it feels intensely psychedelic but even somehow mroe than that despite not actually being.

in any case, ive done that 600mg dxm and well over 200mg adderall along with normal daily doses of phenibut and cymbalta all within this last 2 and a half days ive been up, so now combine those unique visuals with lsd, and what you get is probably the most spectacularly orgasmic visual experiences ive ever had. its honestly phenomenal, ive never had such entertaining visual hallucinations in my entire life.

Unfortunately, taking cymbalta means the more mental and emotonal parts of the trip are typically more affected whereas the visuals are more or left in tact. If only I were actually tripping absolute fucking nutsack instead of jist getting complex visual phenomena and moderately tripping mentally, god damn. i miss that shit
Priscilla Wimbleham - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:45:23 EST ID:LD98YsrF No.893302 Ignore Report Reply
You're taking amphetamines and phenibut daily? Damn dude. You're going to have a fairly rough time getting your brain chemistry back to normal if you ever decide you want a healthy mind. I feel bad for you.

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Thomas Dollerdodge - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 20:57:00 EST ID:qCjr8asv No.893243
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I keep seeing news articles about how California and other states are trying to legalize magic mushrooms, how the US government is going to legalize MDMA for depression/anxiety/ptsd treatment, etc etc. Those changes of laws will take years and years to implement, so it's not like this is a rushed opportunity, but when hallucinogens and psychedelics do become legal, what (if any) credentials will be required to be a person who administrates the doses, or who acts as a tripsitter?

I'm experienced with those altered states and I've spent years researching the various psychedelics and hallucinogens, their histories, their effects, etc, but no formal education in these fields. Will it be a branch of psychology requiring a masters degree? Or a branch of pharmacology? I want to start working on a path to getting formally educated or whatever path will lead to being accredited towards being a guide.
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Fucking Nonkinchut - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 10:46:03 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.893257 Ignore Report Reply
In the past psychologists and psychiatrists applied psychedelic therapy. When all that shit becomes legal, that's exactly the kind of credentials you need to become a professional tripsitter.
James Grimham - Sat, 10 Nov 2018 03:05:55 EST ID:qCjr8asv No.893273 Ignore Report Reply
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OP here, not sure if it'll use the same name as before. Thanks for the replies. I obviously keep thinking about this, and while none of us can perceive the future we can see trends and make predictions. One one hand I envy people in med school and doctors for both having great paying careers and for having the satisfaction of knowing that you're directly responsible for improving people's lives, but on the other hand I pity them because their careers might be in jeopardy within the next decade. AI will be replacing a lot of positions in the hospital, and psychotherapists, psychologists, pharmacologists, chemists, and the like will be fighting tooth and nail to keep themselves from being redundant. (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/may/21/london-hospitals-to-replace-doctors-and-nurses-with-ai-for-some-tasks)

I'm no expert but I've read on AI, predictions about the future implementation of AI, predictions about how society will handle the mass unemployment created by AI and automation, and the key to remaining relevant seems to be the human element. Professions in which human contact is important, like a veterinarian, might not ever be replaced by a machine because of how frightened an animal might be of a machine. Think about how your dog or cat responds to your vacuum as an example. Another example would be a hospice worker. And another example would be a trip-sitter.

So the path to becoming an accredited trip-sitter, right now, seems like a rocky road full of uncertainties. The credentials might be useless outside of that one career. It would be lovely if some educational or governmental agency (Johns Hopkins Research University, for example) would pave a direct path for people to become a trip-sitter. It's a strange thought, but it feels as if the accreditation would still fall short of everything that was required of being a trip-sitter - like the difference between studying anthropology and shamanistic tribes vs actually being a shaman. It's difficult for me to envision a left-brained academic embracing the right-brained aspect of psychedelics and hallucinogens (yes I know the left/right brain theory is probably a load of crap but you get the idea I'm conveying, right?).

It should go without saying but I'm not looking forward to being a trip-sitter so I would have easy access to psychedelics and hallucinogens. If they were legal then I wouldn't need to go through the additional steps of accreditation. I genuinely love helping people and I feel as if my personal experiences with navigating those altered states would help others in theirs.
Thomas Gudgelare - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:01:57 EST ID:+06P18ZC No.893301 Ignore Report Reply
If you read the article carefully, most of the people interviewed don't give off the message of replacement but of refocussing of what primary care providers spent most of their effort and time on. The title of it is pretty clickbaity. The point is the debate of replacement with machines is a much bigger problem for other industries and for the time doctor's are pretty safe.

That direct path is impossible with its current legalization status.
>It's difficult for me to envision a left-brained academic embracing the right-brained aspect of psychedelics and hallucinogens
Then you need to meet more academics. I have met plenty who embrace everything, who are highly artistic, but also really well balanced individuals. The problem is that a lot of these people have reputations that are important to them so they are very careful about what they reveal and who. Carl Sagan is a pretty good example of this.

Even if there was an licensing system it would have two significant problems. One, the demand is likely small (no evidence to back this up but i think its logical to assume so given its legality and it's a relatively niche interest) so that wouldn't make it past a proposal stage. Two, if you wanted a high degree of success those people would have to MDs already, nurses, or social workers. People who already have a good idea about how the brain and the body work. Besides, the most important aspect of a trip sitter is that you trust them and vise versa, and in a medical setting, knowledge is the key to have that. A simple crash course might not be enough to convince a lot of people you're ready, especially w/o having done it or having any previous background in medicine. Even nursing assistants need a high school diploma, and they clean asses and wash old people for a living

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Beatrice Sazzleshaw - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:57:14 EST ID:rXDdKTV5 No.893229
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Is there anyway i can extract DMT from any of these legal ayahuasca plants? if anyone knew id be really helpful

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Cornelius Honeyshaw - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:42:38 EST ID:KVq2Km4h No.893284 Ignore Report Reply
Any idea if this tek would work with ground-up phalaris arundinacea?
Nicholas Hodgewell - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:06:57 EST ID:hxN6EQM3 No.893288 Ignore Report Reply
The longest part is ordering the mimosa hostilis. That might take a couple weeks depending on where you order it from.
The actual process of extraction takes less than 24 hours.
Cyril Dartbanks - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:01:53 EST ID:FXKvNclG No.893294 Ignore Report Reply
U need potent strain of phalaris, with high dmt content.
If u are going to extract wild arundinacea, then ull get some 5-meo-nmt and other triptamines.
Ull find plenty of information on dmt-nexus.
Ask me anything u want about it too.

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Isabella Heckletidging - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:36:53 EST ID:G7H1bDzJ No.893285
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Is it possible that the basis input for a strong psychedelic experience is partially transmitted by nearby tele pylons? I've often surfed the acidweb, it seems to be quite a lot like the dreamweb but more peripheral.
Cedric Meffingville - Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:13:51 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.893286 Ignore Report Reply
Take it to /spooky/, you're not allowed to post supernatural drivel here. Seriously, fuck off with that insane bullshit.

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Simon Sannerfield - Tue, 06 Nov 2018 19:20:48 EST ID:yB9lqw02 No.893231
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lol whatta fag!!!
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 08 Nov 2018 01:04:33 EST ID:LQHsxbk4 No.893250 Ignore Report Reply

Simon Derrystone - Sat, 10 Nov 2018 12:02:43 EST ID:BT+PLuM1 No.893277 Ignore Report Reply
Who the fuck cares, you mongoloid?

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Ian Crudgeville - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:20:17 EST ID:JI0kl9LJ No.893035
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I remember reading something a few years ago talking about 25i and how their 2 different times (complex and uncomplex i think) one has the alkaline battery taste and the other has little to no taste. I need sauce to call someone out
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Chan - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 22:25:43 EST ID:KzZxpqye No.893245 Ignore Report Reply
As Dr. Katz said:
>"One of the major characteristics of the 25x-NBOMe series is that the drugs have a numbing effect ".
That won't change weather complex or not.

If i remember the complex and uncomplex solution had nothing to do with the drug, nothing to do with the taste or numbing.

"25I-NBOMe's bioavailability buccally, is very small, without Hydroxy-propyl-beta-cyclodextrin." Hydroxy-.....Being the "complex". From my 2 seconds of research it just helps with absorption of the material and does nothing else.

I may be a bit late replying.
Charles Cerringwock - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 23:46:02 EST ID:d9HPlU1h No.893270 Ignore Report Reply
Youre right

The HPBC was largely a lie used by the nbome vendors
Charles Cerringwock - Fri, 09 Nov 2018 23:49:09 EST ID:d9HPlU1h No.893271 Ignore Report Reply

Not lie

A selling point

But it was basically bullshit since they absorbed perfectly fine without being "complexed"

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