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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)


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- Wed, 29 May 2019 05:55:03 EST Z4d7SzOv No.895638
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What if the reason we see infinite fractal patterns when we do dmt is because we’re going through what’s supposed to stay infinite to us, the fractals are on the edges of space time to keep us from getting out if we go to far so when we do dmt we pass that barrier and meet these creators

How Much 1st Time

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- Tue, 21 May 2019 20:57:58 EST iHQJNtsp No.895513
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1st time. What's better 1g or 3.5g (the variant is penis envy).
This will be my first time with any psychedelic. Purpose - actually not so much recreational as introspective and research. What is wrong with me? How did I let myself get like this? Am I depressed? Can I feel strong feelings?
I read a lot of trip reports and did loads of research and I hope I can get an insightful experience.
but yeah I'm worried about it being my first time and I don't want it to be too crazy
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Fumarate, Freebase, Pellets, etc...

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- Sun, 26 May 2019 19:28:07 EST oIyG2CbM No.895606
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So, what's the difference between the fumarate and freebase versions of research chemicals? Are they used differently?

Also, a particular RC site offers blotters and micropellets of 1P-LSD. Is there any advantage to one over the other?
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Nigel Pockleson - Mon, 27 May 2019 02:10:17 EST 7De2vqIv No.895610 Reply
Freebase is always more potent, however it is not as stable for long-term storage.
Pellets might be better for sublingual use, other than that not much difference.
I think 5-meo-mipt has a good erotic aspect, not sure about about any others
Edward Ginningwell - Mon, 27 May 2019 21:58:53 EST ZlZz5AA4 No.895618 Reply
Before 2-cb was made illegal it was sold as a sexual enhancer, maybe look into that

Psychedelics and delusions

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- Sun, 03 Mar 2019 10:21:40 EST Ck70wQtn No.894056
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So what is it with the link between psychedelics and pseudo-scientific mystical spiritual New Age mumbo jumbo? You know exactly what I'm talking about, don't you? Why is it that these people are able to say so many words without conveying a single thought? Having been on /psy/ and similar communities on the internet, I've found that it's not just some crazy small minority, there are actually a lot of people with vague, undefined spiritual beliefs that they are completely unable to explain but will still act smug and call you out for relying on scientific explanations of the psychedelic experience as if you're the foolish, naive one.

I just can't for the life of me wrap my head around people who unironically think drugs are some kind of instant wisdom dispenser that instantly make you understand the nature of life and existence better than experts in any field. There's this aura of elitism around it too, with claims like "if you know, you know" as if they're members of some holy circle that is endowed with the gift of sacred knowledge. I feel like this is a deflective method because most of these people are in a way aware that their beliefs are complete bullshit so they resort to "words can not explain it my man".

The question that often comes to my mind is this - is it psychedelics that turn "normal" people into these deluded hippy burnouts or is it that deluded hippy nuts are more likely to use psychedelics but were that way before their exposure to these drugs? I've gone through many psychedelic experiences and while they absolutely opened my mind to new information and made me rethink a lot of things, the experiences opened my mind to delusions as well. These delusions are extremely convincing during the actual trip, but usually don't hold up to scrutiny the day later. I feel like a lot of people believed their drugged mind a lot more than their sober mind for some mindbogglingly stupid reason and don't even think twice before accepting whatever psychedelics throw at them as the absolute truth. Psychedelics throw a spanner in the works of the brain and expose the patterns it functions on, revealing its inner workings so to speak, and this can bring to genuine insight. But I think it's incredibly foolish to think that psychedelics can show you no wrong and that the psychedelic experience somehow trumps centuries of accumulated knowledge about how the world works.
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Samuel Bopperhure - Mon, 27 May 2019 15:27:44 EST b7FOb+KO No.895613 Reply
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I think part of the problem is that psychedelic experiences can provide unconscious context to previously acquired knowledge which leads to information that is difficult to convey. Something along the lines of "The Tao that can be spoken is not the true Tao." I can tell somebody to just "be themselves," but unless they already know how to apply that advice from personal experience, it's goddamn useless and vaguely insulting without context. If I say "Be the best version of yourself and probably don't mention your weird porn collection," that information is slightly more helpful but still not quite as useful as it could be unless the person I'm telling this to has a strong conception of what the "best version" of themselves is in relation to social situation . The problem is compounded by the indescribable nature of psychedelic experiences - the more information you can provide, the more useful the revelation is but if you just can't contextualize it that information is just about useless.

Some other anons in this thread have reinforced this point beautifully. Still, I have a personal experience with this effect that I wanted to mention from a vision of religious ecstasy/psychotic episode wherein a godlike entity told me many things, most of which I can't remember. The very last thing it said to me was something that sounds like some dumb bullshit from a motivational poster but in the context of the discussion I had with it that was probably the most meaningful thing it could've said to me and I completely changed my lifestyle because of it. In the months that followed, I completely changed my outlook on life, developed a strong work ethic, and lost about 40lbs.
It would literally take me pages to write up the context of the tone of the discussion up to that point, what was going on in my life then, and why it meant so much to me.
That is multiple pages for three sentences of perfectly intelligible conversation I had when I was (arguably) completely sober.

Into Shrooms

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- Sat, 25 May 2019 13:40:38 EST b6XTqghE No.895589
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I would consider myself to have a number of personal hang-ups, and negative aspects of my character and thought processes. I honestly feel as if I have been failed by psychiatry and medicine; is there any positive effects to be had from shrooms or any other psychedelics, really, but those are the asking topic.
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Jenny Niddlesteck - Sun, 26 May 2019 13:21:33 EST jl4B8s9v No.895604 Reply
Disregard my post >>895603 , I see you actually addressed my exact question in another thread. Thank you sir you are a gentleman and a scholar, might even give this a try soon polite nb
Ernest Smallcocke - Mon, 27 May 2019 07:15:44 EST bDYMg8HY No.895611 Reply
No problem man, another thing you're gonna need to watch out for is proper straining on a CWE of the seeds themselves. Crush em up nice and tiny then let them sit in water for a day or two in a cool dark place. You can cover the CWE with foil and stick it in the fridge if you want. Strain it through cheese cloth that's been doubled over and/or maybe a nice clean bar towel. I found out recently if you let it sit after its strained for and you see what looks like a little oil slick on top dabbing that up with a little piece of paper towel seem to help. Crystallized ginger is nice with a cup of chamomile lavender tea. Dark chocolate, parsley, other herbs for the vasodilation then you're off to the races. Enjoy your melting experience and just know weed is gonna make it more intense(likely).

LSD and skiing

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- Thu, 23 May 2019 22:32:20 EST gC8XxfFo No.895559
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So this topic is mainly for the 'performance enhancing' potential of psychedelics. Past few years I take acid to dance the night away and same time frame I picked up skiing and fucking love it. In fact, the only reason I work out now is to be able to dance at a rave non-stop and winter of 18 I decided to drop on a ski day. Holy fucking shit, i started doing shit I never thought capable of and not only that, but it's not like speed where you need to take it to get the same performance, but it actually stuck and improved my skill. I'm currently beginning training for a marathon and I'm strongly considering dropping a tab or two halfway through to make me kick ass. Also interestingly, I never get visuals when at a festival or skiing while the same batch taken sitting at home will send me to see the light of God and disconnect from reality. What gives? Is it a lack of stimuli at home that makes you go DMT tier while physical activity just forces you to go full enthusiasm into a task, be it skiing, running or dancing?
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Shit Pickwell - Sat, 25 May 2019 03:54:55 EST eDdaRyot No.895586 Reply
you didn't read the post? OP said they'd already done that and it worked for them

So I've had similar. Back in the day, some of my friends did firespinning, so a couple times I had a go on acid and the moves I learnt there stuck and stayed until I stopped practicing. I got almost a hyperawareness of all my muscles and even on doses where I broke through later on I could keep my co-ordination up. If I'm concentrating on moving, I'm CONCENTRATING. The only time I'm clumsy is if I'm on a half-tab dose, but I've always had trouble with the low doses where you're on the edge of tripping or not.

I have an opinion on visuals, this could be bullshit, this could be wrong. Movement itself lowers visuals imo. You cannot get the fractals and the complicated geometry because you're not staring at one spot and allowing the layers of vision to build up. At a festival I was wandering around, thinking the tab I took wasn't that strong. As soon as I got to my camp and laid down the sky shifted into fractals. It could also be potentially because you're concentrating on something else, you're not allowing your mind to get to that level.

I will say though, like any drug and dangerous activity, there is the risk of being over-confident. Start doing some crazy shit and you could quickly break something.
Basil Sabblewell - Sat, 25 May 2019 04:36:35 EST uXYQE65o No.895587 Reply
I had similar experiences where a few tabs did not hinder a highly physical skill. I like to do creative outlet or physical stuff in the 2-5 hour period when lsd seems the most energetic. Of course, sometimes it's good to sit down, enjoy the visuals, and slip deeper into the incredible lsd headspace.
Frederick Bimmerford - Sat, 25 May 2019 20:39:40 EST MU5DQUTc No.895594 Reply
Not sure I'd say it's the lack of stimuli but doing physically demanding tasks like dancing or skiing will flood your body with a whole load of chemicals that'll impact your trip.

LSD and antipsychotics

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- Fri, 24 May 2019 06:36:17 EST 6zNRHpjR No.895567
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Hello, i take antipsychotic meds (olanzapine) and intend on taking LSD tonight, should o expect a weakish trip or will a whole tab with no tolerance still get me tripping?
Beatrice Pittworth - Fri, 24 May 2019 19:14:13 EST hJ0qC1NJ No.895578 Reply
I had to increase my dose of LSD to 6-8 tabs and drop my olanzapine dose down to 10mg a night for the 7 days leading up to the trip to have a threshold experience. Olanzapine really shuts down serotonin receptors
Charles Sissleridge - Fri, 24 May 2019 21:26:29 EST +IjnEx5g No.895580 Reply
I felt barely anything on my lsd trip and I take 100mg of zoloft. I'd taper off and try it after a few weeks of not taking any.

Do not cold turkey meds.

Stash Thread

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- Wed, 27 Mar 2019 23:46:39 EST RbuOFLuT No.894497
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What you got, /psy/?

Here's mine:
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Nicholas Dramblesuck - Sat, 11 May 2019 05:01:27 EST biWSvt61 No.895310 Reply
How did you all acuire your stashes? easili without thinking or not?
Albert Fandale - Fri, 24 May 2019 13:31:33 EST 54EGsgUH No.895573 Reply
  • 4 ho det
  • 4 aco dmt
  • 4 ho ept
  • 1p lsd
  • ketamine
  • allylescaline
  • methoxphenidine
  • dxm
  • o-desmethyltramadol
  • clonazepam
  • midazolam
  • copious amounts of weed and shatter

Ayahuasca tripping and preparation thread

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- Sat, 18 May 2019 11:34:10 EST q4j9kVp+ No.895466
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So the day has finally come that I try ayahuasca for the first time. I have like 200 grams of mimosa hostilis root bark and some Syrian rue. I’m probably going to be doing 4 grams of rue and 10 grams of the bark today but I’m still undecided. I need to do a little more reading on trip reports but I plan on capping the ground up rue and eating it and creating a foul brew with the bark and reducing it as far as can to have to drink as little as possible.

Any tips? Any reccomendations?

Any SLAYER are highly appreciated.
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Betsy Duckgold - Sun, 19 May 2019 01:57:01 EST 6b0rvHKi No.895479 Reply

Feeling a little off but no visuals or extreme effects apparent yet. Nausea is present trying my best to combat but fuck.
Caroline Crellybury - Sun, 19 May 2019 07:54:03 EST XI49Bpgr No.895481 Reply
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Say hi to mother ayahuasca for me


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- Mon, 13 May 2019 13:22:26 EST WWVcVP+8 No.895333
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Anyone here ever go on a psychedelic bender before? What's the longest you've ever tripped and redosed to extend the trip?
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Reuben Blatherman - Tue, 21 May 2019 21:43:10 EST NyCM08YE No.895516 Reply

I forgot to mention the next day all the drugs in my tin were gone. I must have trashed it all except the lucy because I had no dmt and xans.
Jarvis Pogglenack - Wed, 22 May 2019 20:49:03 EST nYS5F5mG No.895547 Reply
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In high school my best friends parents went to Europe for two weeks.
We used that excuse to have a two week long party.
I tripped every single day. Whether it was on lsd, dxm, 5meo dmt, or xtc. With obvious mixtures between them. We also found said friends father (who had just died from cancer) bottle of opium tincture that was prescribed to him. A rare find indeed. It's been over a decade, and I've never seen anyone with the stuff again. There were the obvious beers, and reefer going around too.
Friend, and I are almost 30 now, and still talk about how epic it was. We call is the two weeks of debauchery. Threesomes were had, relationships were destroyed, some were started, we fucked up an abandon house down the road with sledgehammers, and other blunt objects while tripping shit, everyone was fucked up beyond all reason, and we were all too young to fully grasp just exactly how hard in the paint we were going.

I don't recommend doing heavy demolition while on psychedelic drugs btw.


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- Fri, 10 May 2019 15:38:08 EST HErqS3Vn No.895303
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Whats your favourite setting for taking psychedelics? Silent darkness? Nature? etc.
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Priscilla Snodman - Wed, 22 May 2019 17:24:02 EST dHUHEaD2 No.895534 Reply
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I just had a beautiful trip at Perpetua coast in Oregon last weekend was lovely .
Henry Bonderkadge - Wed, 22 May 2019 20:12:31 EST ivpB8JNW No.895546 Reply
For at least part of it, I like to take a warm shower in the dark with some drone music playing, and if possible hot box the bathroom into a makeshift sauna using additional boiled water and a space heater.

Vaping dmt after drinking Kava Kava

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- Tue, 21 May 2019 22:24:59 EST vwFRcti1 No.895517
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Does anyone have any experience with this? And help would be greatly appreciated.
Martin Hocklefuck - Wed, 22 May 2019 14:01:22 EST jl4B8s9v No.895523 Reply
seems to me like it would just be another synergistic, safe effect and you'll mostly perceive the action of the DMT so that it would be almost pointless to do the Kava. Are you trying to do a ritual or something OP?

Penis Envy mushrooms?

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- Thu, 16 May 2019 23:01:56 EST 3t3xnuLi No.895432
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Sup /psy/, never tripped shrooms so I bought two grams of cubes from my dealer. He said the strain, penis envy, is fucking turbocharged and said 1g of it should be a good trip, but everything I've ever read says a good shrooms trip would be around 2-4 grams. Will 1 gram really do the trick? Or should I take both grams
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Clara Turveyfoot - Tue, 21 May 2019 02:31:26 EST bfB0voM7 No.895498 Reply
>soak in lemon juice 20mins
Why? Literally why? The reason to acidify mushrooms is to convert the psilocybin to psilocin, which shortens the onset by about ten to twenty minutes. If you're doing this, it's something done the night before, otherwise you've just wasted time. Also, lemonade is sufficient in ph.
Esther Blucklebig - Tue, 21 May 2019 02:49:54 EST ivpB8JNW No.895499 Reply
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supposedly, the acid would spontaneously allow for the dephosphorylation of the psilocybin via hydrolysis, but that doesn't really make sense because this would be self-limiting.
I read your post on "Active Discussions" and I'm hypothesizing here, but I believe you are right. In humans, the pathway that the psilocybin goes though is via human phosphatase in the small intestine.
Following this logic, if you wanted to do this reaction ahead of time, the easiest way to do it would be to use the phosphatase of a food culture product. Lactobacillus of yogurt or kefir might work for this.

I don't have any mushrooms for independent research, but can anyone who has shrooms do me a favor for science and powder your shrooms and combine with yogurt to test this? The shrooms would work either way but the Lactobacillus should dephosphorylate the psilocybin faster than acid alone because of enzymic action of the live culture. Thank you.

also, anyone who is actually studied in O-chem should school me if I'm wrong on this, because I'm only Computational Biology and you actually do the math on the electrochemistry of this better than I could
Phoebe Gallerbanks - Wed, 22 May 2019 00:19:29 EST 8miTfqG+ No.895518 Reply
> to convert the psilocybin to psilocin

...did you have a question? It doesn't have to be done the night before, 20 or 30 minutes should be more than sufficient. and it does much more than shorten the onset. In my experience, it shortens the duration of the trip and increases the intensity of effects. It's almost as if it has converted the psilocybin into psilocin, instead of letting your body do the heavy lifting.

snort it up your butthole for all I care, just telling you what has worked for me.

I'd avoid lemonade, personally, because I find consuming shitloads of sugar before a trip to be unpleasant.

Friend suffering from anxiety attacks took mushrooms for the first time and I'm a bit worried

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- Tue, 21 May 2019 19:49:29 EST vbqRCKE/ No.895511
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A friend of mine took mushrooms for the first time last weekend, and now she's not talking anymore. She says she needs time to get over the mushrooms and digest the experience. Is she ok?

She had anxiety attacks before so she was hoping mushrooms would help but maybe it made it worse?
Hugh Clirringhall - Tue, 21 May 2019 19:55:58 EST MU5DQUTc No.895512 Reply
just give her time man let her do her thing

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