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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Controlling what i say

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- Sun, 12 May 2019 15:44:15 EST MkVJfMK6 No.895319
File: 1557690255131.jpg -(99432B / 97.10KB, 1068x561) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Controlling what i say
Heard a while back that when on high dosages of shroomies you can lose control over your actions. What seems to scare me more though is the thought of SAYING something i might regret rather than doing. Would you say that self-control is easier on shrooms than, say alcohol?
Barnaby Tillingwell - Sun, 12 May 2019 16:39:58 EST HErqS3Vn No.895322 Reply
I just had a 5g shroom trip that made me say some pretty wild stuff, I was alone though so it was ok. Definitely felt like I was being controlled (and yeah it turned into a bad trip)

I'd say alcohol can make you say stuff that you regret later way more.
Phineas Punkinpock - Mon, 13 May 2019 02:33:58 EST PRP2VYLE No.895328 Reply
not sure, last time i had shrooms, i wanted to kill myself. Like lay in the traffic and wait for inevitable, but my ID or Ego(not sure, slept through psychology class) kicked in and said "hey you're high and being really dumb, don't kill yourself" and then i started comung down, but still couldn't sleep, so i just went on /b/ to read some idiot's greentexts while i drifted away to sleep

You guys heard about Denver decriminalizing magic mushrooms right?

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- Wed, 15 May 2019 12:14:46 EST 1T7XPCcP No.895373
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Ok, cool.

unchanged by psychedelics?

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- Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:18:14 EST pPbCudfm No.895026
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I was wondering whether it would be possible for someone who took psychedelics to come out of it unchanged from the experience. I wonder if there are some people who could take pretty much anything and just shrug it off. And if there isn't, what substance is most likley to affect a person? LSD, DMT, psilocybin?
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George Derryhood - Sun, 12 May 2019 23:38:12 EST jKlsfidd No.895326 Reply
First off, what would consider insightful or enlightening? These words themselves seem like something you'd call hippy babble so I don't know what were working with here.

I think your skepticism of psychedelic mysticism is pretty silly. Its pretty fucking well documented that psychedelics seem to cause mystical type experiences, and cause personality and behavioral changes, who are you to say these aren't real or meaningful because nobody can give you an explanation that you like.

However, its the fact we know so little about what these experiences really are that makes it easy for people to absorb them into some wild new age shit, so I can see how you might dismiss the whole thing
Sidney Sanningtidging - Mon, 13 May 2019 18:09:42 EST KCpzFZe3 No.895336 Reply

> First off, what would consider insightful or enlightening?

Literally any new knowledge. Something dumb like "woah dude, we're like hairless monkey floating on rock through space, maaaaaan" is not new knowledge. You already knew that before your trip, you're just saying it with *deep* attitude now.

>and cause personality and behavioral changes

I did not deny this part of it, but that's not the same as "learning" something new. If you get raped it will probably change your personality and behaviour.... but you'd hardly have cause for acting smugly superior and claim to have learned something about reality.
Henry Brommerchon - Tue, 14 May 2019 01:41:41 EST WWVcVP+8 No.895338 Reply

I've been doing psychedelics on bi-weekly for the past few months and the biggest revelation comes upon me after (not during) each trip: changing one's life has nothing to do with psychedelic drugs in the first place and everything to do with what you want from life and what you're willing to do to get what you want. I guess disconnecting from reality and your normal thought patterns kinda resets your mind after its all over and lets you remember the basic tenets of life that you tend to forget in the chaos of work, relationships, and all that other day to day shit.

DMT e-liquid

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- Thu, 02 May 2019 17:14:12 EST FUDLevbP No.895175
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I followed lazyman's tek on DMT nexus and made around 1.7 g dmt from 200g MHRB, and added it to PEG - 400 base e-liquid at about 1g dmt to 2.5ml liquid.

now I tried smoking it for the first time the other day and it took about 6 hits from the e- cig to trip in any sort of way and even then it lasted no longer than 5 minutes, certainly not the breakthrough experience i was looking for.

i guess my question is have I fucked up somewhere during the extraction process or was making an e-liquid a mistake? i'm thinking of just taking hits till I cant lift my hand to my face any longer and seeing if i can achieve a breakthrough but i don't know if I'm flogging a dead horse at this point.
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Edwin Ciblingnat - Thu, 09 May 2019 07:41:22 EST FUDLevbP No.895282 Reply
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this is the vape kit i'm using, 6/7 hits from it gets some intense visuals for about 10 minutes then a slow comedown back to reality, 10 hits gets me to the waiting room. in all honesty I think i haven't made the DMT liquid strong enough. it was my first attempt so next time ill make a liquid that's 1:1 liquid/DMT. it was my first attempt at extraction too so there's a lot of variables as to why its not as strong as it could be.
Cyril Nigglewit - Thu, 09 May 2019 21:00:52 EST jKlsfidd No.895293 Reply
Are you sure those numbers are right? I think I had like 500mg dmt in like 10 ml and it worked well. Maybe your extraction didn't go well or something. Not sure but I know when I had my mixture it was super easy to breakthrough
Molly Trotwill - Sat, 11 May 2019 09:09:34 EST FUDLevbP No.895312 Reply

yeah those numbers are right, there's only 3 things i can think of that would dilute the strength of what iv'e made.

1.not enough DMT to liquid
2.as I followed the Tek to the letter perhaps I didn't get good quality MHRB therefore giving less yield
3. when i made the e-liquid I applied a little bit of heat to help the DMT dissolve into the base fluid, not much heat, literally just warmed over the hob for a few seconds at a time until it fully dissolved. i'm thinking I possibly affected the potency by adding heat.

I'm not too upset, it wont stop me trying again once I've used up this batch. i just want to try and nail down what went wrong this time so i can get a better experience.

Farming From Picking Mushrooms

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- Fri, 10 May 2019 03:36:05 EST GUg919Sp No.895295
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Is it possible to use the mushrooms you pick to start a little grow? Say if you pick then fresh then place them on a grow tray containing the soil they need to grow in?
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Wesley Worthingshaw - Fri, 10 May 2019 12:53:22 EST G74ZQ33A No.895298 Reply
There are several ways of accomplishing this. If you want an exact genetic copy of the wild specimen, clone it on agar like this:

A small change to his technique I would incorporate is instead of wiping the surface of the wild specimen with isopropyl alcohol, just dip the whole thing in iodine. You can use a Still Air Box or Glove Box instead of a super expensive laminar flow hood, but it sucks and you will get contaminations much more frequently.

You trying to make sour dough bread my dude?
press - Sat, 11 May 2019 01:56:38 EST REMA4ZMC No.895306 Reply
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good luck with that approach, potato ball. but be sure to do it with the windows open and next to a moldy loaf of bread

OP, with wild shrooms itd be safer to first start a culture on agar since you cant know what kind of stuff mightve gotten stuck to the mushroom. if youre willing to learn a bit and drop some cash on equipment and are actually sure youve correctly identified the species, id say go for it! but if youre in a state where spores are legal you could opt to order a print, which should go for about 30 bucks

if youre talking about azurenscens or Psy cyanescens youd most likely have to rely on outdoor beds as those species need low temps to initiate fruit body formation lest you want to have a dedicated fridge. no idea about the temps for other outdoor species though. that would obviously have the added benefit of not depending on the seasons.
and why stop at a small grow? i havent seen beech chips sold in small volumes unless it was some hipster artisan bbq bullshit. 15 kg of that stuff are about 18 bucks where i live
and if the species is already in your region i see problem with establishing a few extra patches
press - Sun, 12 May 2019 05:04:57 EST azZwF1VX No.895315 Reply
wait fuck im retarded. a bought spore print would have to be cleaned up too. nb

10mg of niacin at T-3:00

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- Thu, 02 May 2019 12:51:07 EST 3NE5cMPf No.895168
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I accidentally took a multivitamin with 10mg (50% RDV) of niacin in it this morning. Will this have a noticeable affect on $25 of shrooms and $25 acid im going to take 3 hours later? Should i wait a day?
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Cornelius Heddlebanks - Sun, 05 May 2019 18:57:12 EST 6QSCJy4d No.895231 Reply
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OP got dat bunko connect. He's resorting to ridiculous theories as to why his cheap-ass drugs won't get him high.
Rebecca Fovingputch - Thu, 09 May 2019 06:08:09 EST ta+6D9mB No.895280 Reply

i thought it was an urban legend that niacin cancels out psychedelic trips... "it flushes the blood through your brain and pushes the LSD out faster" is what my dad says...
Phyllis Pucklewater - Thu, 09 May 2019 16:39:31 EST QVgISmEI No.895290 Reply
Lol it’s all going somewhere, otherwise doctors wouldn’t have to pump your stomach everytime you go over there

for those that like 5-meo-dmt, why?

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- Sun, 28 Apr 2019 06:22:37 EST s0jjc8vx No.895085
File: 1556446957635.png -(23699B / 23.14KB, 900x486) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. for those that like 5-meo-dmt, why?
I just feel like I'm falling forever, see a bright white light and when that's over have some very light and boring visuals and a lot of nausea (I get bad nausea from all 5-meos)

No hate, I'm legit curious.....
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Fuck Turveyworth - Wed, 01 May 2019 18:51:03 EST KfVrDcD5 No.895154 Reply
Never done it either but the trip is typically described as very lacking in visuals, accompanied by a white light/void and a strong loss of self in every sense
Esther Brookforth - Thu, 09 May 2019 13:41:52 EST hlfpVgss No.895283 Reply
The shit make you see God himself and you fuckin bored smdh

Persisting anxiety when smoking weed

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- Thu, 02 May 2019 16:58:59 EST qq2zwyfS No.895172
File: 1556830739230.png -(57264B / 55.92KB, 166x205) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Persisting anxiety when smoking weed
Any advice for someone who fucked themself up on psychadelics so hard that i have persistent anxiety attacks whenever I smoke weed ever since?
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Thomas Dublingridge - Wed, 08 May 2019 19:57:44 EST 8Tx0HVYH No.895269 Reply
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zazen meditatio
and then maybe more psychedelics

Styrofoam DMT?

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- Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:48:33 EST KVq2Km4h No.894320
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I read somewhere that there is a styrofoam-like substance that is actually DMT, and you can supposedly purify this to make it ingestable. Does anyone here know anything about this?
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Sidney Dullysed - Thu, 09 May 2019 00:15:33 EST wgh3Pp2M No.895276 Reply
You just need harmelas. Syrian Rue is great. Just do an extraction of the seeds.

Found these at work today

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- Wed, 08 May 2019 16:30:16 EST BzOrx0HK No.895266
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Are they cubes? What do i do with them? Pls advise
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Matilda Billingson - Fri, 17 May 2019 06:33:21 EST FYQrLWof No.895445 Reply
You need a spore syringe if youre IV'ing, you fucking idiot. Gonna get someone killed here smfh.


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- Thu, 02 May 2019 23:16:21 EST oB2N9FtH No.895185
File: 1556853381104.jpg -(79825B / 77.95KB, 720x1280) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Opinion?
Holding on to this for dear life, so much of a shit storm going down now on the DNMs right now, may never get this shit again if it keeps up
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Basil Sigglebanks - Tue, 07 May 2019 21:33:30 EST rwAHdk9d No.895260 Reply

Just ask the law enforcement agents who posted the thread with the discord link a little ways down the front page here..

Psychedelics for depression, post-SSRIs; never tripped without meds before

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- Mon, 06 May 2019 00:34:58 EST VOCB6bbN No.895234
File: 1557117298815.jpg -(2791150B / 2.66MB, 1920x1080) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Psychedelics for depression, post-SSRIs; never tripped without meds before
I was on SSRIs from like 2nd grade to last fall when I was 23 and a half, finished weening off completely in like early February. Weening off was horrible, a little better now, but still profoundly depressed among my other problems (OCD, ADHD, Aspergers, probably narcissistic to some degree, fucking hate so many kinds of people but terrified of offending anyone so I'm basically a passive aggressive bitch)

I tripped a good bit in like late 2014 and early 2015, while on SSRIs, which obviously hampered what is supposed to happen so I understand. Did a bunch of stuff, mostly LSD so far as I know but some 25i sometimes (yes I know this is terrible to mess with let alone with an ssri, no plans to repeat) and once DOM, and DMT a good amount of times in that span of time and one week from like just a couple years ago (never broke through though had some profoundly upsetting experiences and a wild sense of pointlessness to everything, though interesting insights too, still reflecting on those).

One problem with a lot of this was that I basically became an animal to my senses while tripping and it's like no matter what I do my mind will not stop trying to cut into something, and it's always dissecting and dissecting and it is physically impossible for me to not be focused on some thing at any given moment and it's like I compulsively do shit on my phone just pressing buttons or using the apps/websites I frequent without really even being there just because I am forced to be doing this.
Another problem extends this, there was a single time I was on mushrooms which I haven't been able to try again since (liquid mushrooms, if that makes a difference) where I had some peaceful or exciting feelings and whatnot but it quickly turned into a really vicious cycle of self-attacks and eating away at myself and feeling more and more broken. Similar things happened with LSD, basically with tripping I can end up being incredibly self-consuming and eating away at myself (an increased version of what I already do all the time when I'm sober).

tl;dr, start reading here
I feel like I need to not block out these bad things so I don't want to go back on meds, since the meds are probably let me get to this point, but I've been wanting to try LSD or maybe mushrooms again since I've never really experienced either without SSRIs, but I am worried I will fall down a spiral of attacking myself again. I don't really have anyone I can trip with and even if I did I worry that would change the intention I am going for, so I don't know how I would keep myself in check. But can anyone offer any words as for what I should be looking to do with this? I've always heard shit like psychedelics making people better and I'm obviously skeptical of this for myself and this fact itself probably is a bad sign, but I'd like to just feel happy about doing things and less like everything I do is broken and wrong.
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Eliza Smallgold - Tue, 07 May 2019 05:30:54 EST H5ejCHCr No.895256 Reply
Weed made me focus on myself. On my next move, even moment by moment. Get starting on being alone and anxietied out, smoke some weed until I come down and anxiety would be gone.
'If' I ran up to it and changed it. Don't know.

I have dosed LSD like say hundreds of times. It has no characteristics to make a person better. Snoking pot with an ever forward thinking while on and off of it, visualizing your next moves, next actions seems to help. Like waking up, i am going to do this and this, then whatever next. Altering anything the way you want it to be.

Loving people but hating people in general seems good. Music, lyrics are good. I like reach the Beach by The Fixx. Getting high the lyrics of much music often takes another level of understanding. Even if they are just lyrics made up in no time, they are thoughts or expressions one could or can make them fit anyway they may like, or fit in a not so positive way but sustain ones-self just as well.

>I don't really have anyone I can trip with and even if I did I worry that would change the >intention I am going for, so I don't know how I would keep myself in check.

Awkwardness, I don't know, walking through or even towards awkwardness sometimes makes awkwardness actually normal. I regret many awkward feeling times where if I would have just simply took a chance and went through them, things later would have been soo much worthwhile and easier in the short term and long term.

Yea, save the LSD for a rainy day, the talk of ego breakdown to evolve. We need an ego, definition, a destination to move which direction to follow through with what we can be.
Frederick Sirringlet - Tue, 07 May 2019 14:49:59 EST u8xrGcni No.895257 Reply
From what I understand SSRI’s simply make psychedelics/euphorics less potentiated and you can still feel the same effects you just need to take more, which in and of itself is dangerous when considering how strong these substances really are
Augustus Pirrychine - Wed, 08 May 2019 05:32:03 EST nbk/m+Mu No.895261 Reply
Well, LSD is fairly predictable. Had an associate who had a major breakdown he called it. Took prolixin, and whatever. He liked acid every now and then. I trusted his being on it. He just would chill out. He ended up stopping the anti-psychotics antidepressants, just stopped going to the Dr that kept him on these very strong unwanted drugs.

Yea in all I think the antidepressants did likely diminish his high. But could tell he would be pretty high.

Weird dmt trip,I think they blocked me out

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- Mon, 06 May 2019 09:20:22 EST JEBLvmCI No.895243
File: 1557148822021.jpg -(202887B / 198.13KB, 631x454) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Weird dmt trip,I think they blocked me out
Long story short

At the start of the year I finally got to try dmt then managed buy .5g i2 different times.

Was using a dabs rig and broke through almost every time.

When I was down to around my last .2 I ended up seeing these green elf alien looking women running around some sort of world getting on with there day.

I couldn’t stop laughing to my self and then for some reason I was thinking to my self why is a women controlling this trip may of said/thought to my self somthing worse about them while I was still laughing and then right after it it was as if one of them looked right at me with an evil looking face(like a dog turning on you) and spat on the floor in disgust.lt then carried on doing what it was doing.

I wasn’t afraid when it done this ,I found it rather amusing that I could wind it up so easily.

Even tho I’ve only smoked it about 25 times now I feel like this drug is rather easy to control as it only seems to affect what I see and how my body feels rather than your mind the was acid does.

Any way a few days later I tried smoking the last few hits of it and it was as if I couldn’t break through and all the colours what I was seeing where all darker in shades rather than nice and bright and unusual looking.

Now I don’t know if I have been blocked out from seeing things as I have read that can happen.
Or maybe I just had to little of the stuff let
Maybe It was because I was using zoplicone and sometimes diazpam to sleep around then.Can they block you from breaking through if they have been taken the night before(was taking zoplicone for about a month straight)
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Charles Bruvingdutch - Mon, 06 May 2019 15:46:20 EST +BcYWCUD No.895249 Reply
Idk mane, I find tryptamines the most spiritual and empathogenic and they seem to produce in me more of the feelings of euphoric connectedness, being "god", in control of the entire experience, confident, accepting, satisfied, fulfilled, and peaceful. Depending on the amount of the tryptamine taken or the specific tryptamine's potency itself, it can be extremely visual, but it's moreso mentally trippy in general.

Lysergamides tend to be in the middle on being more visual and mentally trippy when comparing it to tryptamines and phenylethylamines, but the mental trippiness seems to be a bit less spiritual and empathogenic and much more confusing, thought/logic loopy, and generally disorienting (greater distortions to perception of the passage of time and other senses in general). They're perhaps equally mentally trippy to tryptamines in their own way, but in a far less spiritual/religious and euphoric empathogenic way (as i said, being more confusing and causing greater distortions to sensory stimuli and your perceptions in general which can be a bit more disorienting).

Phenylethylamines are mostly visual with the spiritual, empathogenic, and mental trippiness being less pronounced... depending on the phenylethylamine. 2-CB and 2-CE are exceptions to this general trend, but drugs like DOC and escaline are good examples of it.

Overall, I prefer tryptamines the most and prefer lysergamides/ergoline on some occasions.
Charles Bruvingdutch - Mon, 06 May 2019 15:49:38 EST +BcYWCUD No.895250 Reply
All that about tryptamines and lysergamides in particular (about tryptamines producing more feelings of being in control, being god, empathogenic effects, etc. vs. lysergamides producing greater sensory and perceptual distortions and confusion that can be more disorienting) means for me that, even though I might trip way harder on a given tryptamine, such as DPT, than I would on something like LSD, the experience would generally be one where I feel less "challenged" or put through any kind of real mental distress or whatever... although calling it distress is somewhat misleading since pretty much all psychedelics I've ever taken instantly make me feel perfect, "right", in control, and peaceful.

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