/psy/ Psychedelic Discussion
So I went to a psychedelic talk and the discussion journeyed into how psychedelics can impact your day-to-day life. People fell into 2 main camps:Psychedelics help you to find your material passion and encourage you to follow it (i.e., starting your own business)Psychedelics discourage striving and reveal the meaningless of materialism I'd say I fall more into camp 2, though I'm not arrogant enough to say that I know the right answer. My personal feeling is that while it's important to establish a degree of comfort and security (you don't want to be homeless and starving), you should be careful not to glorify material accomplishments. It can become a trap. I felt that camp 1 was a bit too enthusiastic about running businesses and organizations. Again though, those are just my feelings - I'm not claiming to have any objective insight. Perhaps the world needs both camp 1 and 2 people.What do you think?
>>894476How in the ever-loving fuck are you people not able to understand that EXPERIENCE=/=COMPREHENSIONJesus fuck, it's like this place is filled with a bunch of drug-addled retards
>>894527I may agree, but you have to define comprehension. I suspect that this definition would make it dependent on the object of comprehension and if the object of comprehension is the subject of comprehension then it would always have full comprehension and if the object was some other entity/experience it would still have some comprehension because all entities are part of the Fundamental entity/experience. Further more all entities overlap or form a vescica pisces to one degree or another, some to a very significant degree.If you guys are hell bent on believing in some universal truth then the closest thing to that would be ALL THAT IS or the Universe which contains all entities/experiences and thus every entity every being has some comprehension of the universe and a full comprehension of the self and we all share the fundamental quality of existence so you could say we all comprehend any being in the universe to some extent because we are built on the same base, the same fundamental, we share the same source.
>>894530To comprehend means to have a functional understanding of something's nature. To experience something isn't the same thing as understanding that thing. When you were a child, you experienced hearing your parents speak to you, but you could not comprehend the meaning behind the noises they were making. I'm not them obviously, but what other definition of comprehension is there exactly?> if the object of comprehension is the subject of comprehension then it would always have full comprehension Why would this be true? A practical example is a human person. A human person is an object that is actually a system of objects working together. A person is not actually a single object. Not only that, but we are only ever capable of focusing on limited aspects of our nature at any given moment, so it would be impossible for us to comprehend the nature of ourselves fully ever. Not to mention the system of objects making us up is always changing and more objects are being added and subtracted from ourselves constantly. The idea that ANYTHING could be comprehended fully is ridiculous enough on its own. I honestly have a hard time understanding your line of logical reasoning even a little bit man. The best I can come up with is that you're suffering heavily from confirmation bias and you're just choosing to believe shit that sounds the best to you for whatever reason. Also, how on earth do you still believe that your experience precedes or creates reality (and when I say reality, I don't mean your subjective experience of it, I mean what actually exists)? Reality creates you, not the other way around. If I were to be really charitable here, I might say both actually happen simultaneously (because they kinda do really... that is to say, you create reality as reality creates you), but even in that case experience/experiencing reality does not therefore EQUAL existing, they merely happen concurrently alongside one another. Experiencing reality and existence is merely an ASPECT of existence, not existence itself. How the fuck you can't separate this is beyond me.
> if the object of comprehension is the subject of comprehension then it would always have full comprehension
sup /psy/I'm thinking of trying shrooms for the first time since a friend of mine recommended I take them with him. He's told me that they can provide a spiritual experience without much of the effort required to obtain other psychedelics, and they're good for babby's first trip. I want to take them to hopefully find additional avenues for creativity in my hobbies and to just have the experience, but I have a question: has anyone ever actually felt more creative after a trip? I've heard their might also be a scientific basis to why some people report feeling this way, but is there any specifics to the mechanisms that veteran psychonauts might know of, like research or studies into brains functioning differently after a trip?This will be my first time doing something other than weed. Thanks for the info.
>>894541if you have new ideas and perspectives = absolutely yes, but some people remain just as brain dead on psys as they are sober...
>>894544for some people a mind expanding psychedelic experience is realizing that people in other countries speak other languages
>>894552When I started taking psychedelics, a lot of what I learned in science classes at school began coming back to me with refreshed vigor. Suddenly I was physically aware of how actually massive the distances between stars, and staring at the night sky while in the midst of a psychedelic thrill was like watching the heavens open up before me. The UFO's come down and you meet god inside of yourself that sentence was just for the sake of poetry, no actual UFO's involved, it's more a description of the sensation.Psychedelics made me aware of the true complexity of this experience. A drop in the bucket.
So... is it normal to feel really underwhelmed after downing 300ug of AL-LAD and 100ug of 1P-LSD in a single sitting? I mean, I've done nothing beyond LSA once about a year ago which was okay, but this feels disappointing. I'm not saying it's bunk shit or anything either, I'm definitely feeling it. I'm about 6 hours in and I got some euphoria and a shit keeps shifting colors, moving around, and breathing around me, and I am sweaty as shit, but I feel pretty normal otherwise. No real head trip or anything. Am I just asking too much from the experience? Like, am I just doing it wrong? I'm pretty tempted to just down the remaining four blotters of 1P and three blotters of AL-LAD in a single sitting in a week or two just to see where that gets me.Is it my mindset right now that's killing the trip? Like, I'm pretty grounded in reality, and I think that's what might be holding me back right now but I'm not sure. A part of me wishes I was having a bad trip right now. Like, it's almost like I wanted to be challenged in someway by the experience, but that challenging experience I wanted just isn't there. The worst part about it, is that I can almost feel as if the trip I want is right there at the tip of my tongue, but I just can't break the threshold needed to get those words off the tip of my tongue and experience what it is this trip wants to say through me is. Anyone feel me on this? Can anyone give me a bit a guidance on where to go with this for a more fulfilling experience on the next go around?
>>894529Sounds good to me. But I'd recommend never doing more than double of what you've already done, beyond that you are really walking into unknown territory. On the other hand go ahead and enjoy your balls while you still have them.
>>894529You say you feel as if you're almost there and you probably are. Take a 50% bigger dose next time. If you do it within a week of your previous trip you will have a tolerance, and will need to do an even bigger dose.
HiWhat do you think of these things? Are they dangerous? Should i try them? Give me your experiences.
The trick is to lay down for a nap when you're on the things - then things get trippy.Never taken more then 5g at a time BTW.10g A. Muscaria is a little much, I'd suggest a trip sitter,Muscaria is /del/
>>894501How far is it on the harm spectrum? 0 being a nice calm just-a-bit-more-than-a-threshold-dose-of-shrooms, and 10 being a month long bender of various stimulating substances of dubious origin and purity.I've been very interested in /del/ experiences, but pretty much every deliriant on the planet either poses an extreme HPPD risk to the psychonaut, or are just a straight up health risk.
>>894510Honestly I havent felt a hangover or any adverse effects after I came down. Maybe a little tiredness but it seems to be decently tolerated as long as you dry it out properly to get rid of the ibotenic acid.
So im planning on tripping with my girlfriend at the beach next week. My plans to drive up at night after work, spend the night in the truck (theres plenty of room for comfortable sleep), get up early, and take 2 each (probably like 300 mics).Im gonna be bringing a speaker, food, a small amount of weed, some towels even though its probably not gonna be warm enough to swim, and the like. Also gonna need a really good form of shade like a tent because my girlfriend has polymorphic light disease (she gets sunburns almost instantly without 150spf sunblock and even then she needs to be careful, less than 1k people on earth have this btw)..anyway im looking for suggestions cause ive only ever tripped inside or less than a mile or two from my house. Itll be spring break for some highschoolers in the state so ill probably have to find a more secluded spot and id really hate for something to go wrong all that way from home completely inebriated. So uh yeah. Anyone experienced with tripping abroads advice would be nice
300 mics is a lot. I'd start at maybe 100 or 150 if you really want to push it. If you're in a place that's unfamiliar to you its always better to be cautious and safe than to risk anything bad happening. Remember that this is just for fun. Don't push that too far or you're gonna have a bad time.
>>894511Yeah you might be right, idk though. If were a distance away from everyone and its too chilly to be crowded i think id be alright. Maybe ill take one and a half instead.. either way i really want to see the ocean on L. Something about it feels really nostalgic. Idk if it has to do with life coming from the ocean or what but itd be really nice i think
bump while mothafuckin trippin
BWT4-AcO-DMT now,I was on 4-AcO-MET before
>>894488interested in the methyl-ethyl N-substituted tryps, you notice any subtle differences or are they indistinguishable?
>>880542take it immediately
What are the going rates for drugs in your area. I'm talking street price.Here is my area, Southern Texas.Weed $200-300/oz high grade, $30/oz low gradeBars 4-5 for $10Molly $40-80/gMushrooms $10/g $30-40/8thLSD $5-10/tabCocaine $40-60/g That's all I know. Anybody elss if from the area can fill in for other substances.
>>894346>ketamineHow easy is it to get ketamine in Croatia? I'm in a neighboring country and it's fucking impossible to find here. I have access to pretty much any drug I'd want except for ket. I know ordering online is an option but I'm fairly sure my address is already being monitored since I've had a few run-ins with the law before so I'd rather not risk it.
>>893961you IV 4-aco-dmt? whats that like?I'v Iv'ed 2C-E and that was wild but I ended up missing a shot which freaked me out for the rest of the trip,
>>894400Not easy unless you like underground clubbing (Soundfactory Zagreb), or know the right people. It's actually easier to get diverted vials of medical ket than clandestinely produced powder.I get my ket from the DN considering it's like $20 a gram of very good stuff.
Nobody can stop me now!
>>894485Was gonna lemon tek 4 g's each with a friend once and my ex told me "you guys should use pineapple juice instead of lemon juice". Well I fucking believed her and let me tell you, pulpy sweet pineapple juice vs smooth sour lemon juice was a mistake for sure. I didn't think it was possible to make shrooms taste worse, but there we were
throw some croutons in that bitch
>>894486You mixed pineapple juice in when you already were using lemon? You use lemon because it's low pH but safe to eat. Pineapple juice is significantly less acidic. pH 2.0 vs 3.5 nb
What is the average street price of one LSD tab in Prague and the Czech republic in general?
>>894468200-330 Kr from when I was living there
Two acid tabs today. I experienced only *light visuals. I got energetic, certainly felt high and laughed a lot. That said, the experience wasn't psychedelic to me. Is that just how LSD is? How many tabs must I take to achieve visuals similar to those from other /psys/?
>>894417bro, we have a non-profit organization that runs drug tests around here. and apparently there's everything from 20 to 380 mics per tab out there on the streets. as a previous commenter said, either you know your shit or you buy RCs online.
>>894348Also there are different types of lsd, like it's all lsd but depending on the making of it and the impurities and suck it can be pretty different batch wise The simple explanation is there is speedy acid, usually not as good, and different levels of primo shit. All will test positive for lsd so ya u just gotta find a batch u like and stock up. If u ever find some legit needlepoint then that's the best I've had, but all the usual fluff around me is pretty good too
>>894472this is a controversial topic, but I concur with most of what is said. Acid =/= Acid. Maybe something to do with the vibration of the crystallize determining the crystals, like snowflakes with h20. Like children with parents.
Hey folksSo this month I tried microdosing mushrooms. I did it for a couple of weeks but eventually decided not to continue. Last time I did it was 2 weeks ago. I continued to smoke weed as usual (a couple of times a week).This afternoon I smoked a bit more than usual, and folks... it was kind of similar to being on mushrooms. There were a few things that I felt that I would definitely have expected from mushrooms rather than weed - some emotional catharsis & bouts of loud, sustained laughter, for example.Anyone else ever get that?
That's just what happens when you get really high on a good day.
I've found that after psychs it's way easier for me to get into a trippy mindsetm but that's all,
i found this today. i would test it but i'm currently dry. anyone know anything about vitamin B3 / Niacin as a cure for tripping?i've never needed it, but if i had known i might have had someone to have been helped by this information.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1fsR4inAhg>drinks milk for tripping too hardive literally never heard of this so i thought it was a joke buthttp://www.unlockfood.ca/en/Articles/Vitamins-and-Minerals/Food-Sources-of-Niacin.aspxaccording to this a cup of milk has 1/5th your daily serving of niacinand now i'm here
>drinks milk for tripping too hard
benzos to calm the fuck down and slow down racing thoughts, stop feelings of impending doom, but they don't really stop a tripantipsychotics to fully stop a trip, but unless it's extremely nasty don't because they can have very shitty side effects and you're usually better of taking more benzos (don't buy in to the anti benzo propaganda, taking them all the time/very often is very bad, taking them rarely is very safe even in retarded doses as long as you don't mix them with other sedatives)ghb/gbl/1,4-bdo, alcohol, phenibut and other sedatives probably help too but they aren't used as commonly because the first 3 are too good to use them to calm trips, alcohol doesn't work that well and you'll need so much that the hangover will be very bad (many people can easily down a bottle of vodka and not be very drunk on a few hundred ug of lsd) and phenibut takes so long to kick in that you wont be tripping anyway by the time it does
Exercise, and taking vitamins apparently fixes it after you have damaged it. I am going to try fasting next.Anyone have advice on fixing a fried pineal?
No, you really just need to dose pinealon for a while. It's a peptide that regenerates the pineal gland.>Pinealon is an oligopeptide containing glutamyl-asparagine-arginine (Glu-Asp-Arg)>Research indicates that pinealon increases proliferation of pineal cells and boosts their secretory function
>Pinealon is an oligopeptide containing glutamyl-asparagine-arginine (Glu-Asp-Arg)>Research indicates that pinealon increases proliferation of pineal cells and boosts their secretory function
>>894386ok. i didn't expect that. Still probably mostly snake oil. What happens when you get dependents on all of those external substances you have to keep taking. I'd rather eat fruits and some veg and liver every once in a while. that way you find everything you need anywhere you go.
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