/psy/ Psychedelic Discussion
What is your experience with LSA?Do you prefer Hawaiian babies or Morning Glory?I'm planning on trying it soon. Where would be the best place to get them?I see them on amazon but i can't tell if they have pesticides or other chemicals or whatnot.
>>894359hey got a few q's for u brohow would u say the lsa nausea compares to the dxm nausea?which one's worse? how well do they mix?can i take a smaller amount of lsa with dxm to slightly augment a dxm trip? and how much would that smaller amount be?
>>8946761 Much easier to handle unless you have DXM powder which I haven't tried.2 They mix ok I quess, neither makes the other worse in terms of nausea.3 IME of combining the two I realized that the only point of taking the trip was to experience LSA. Honestly I think DXM isn't worth it when there are so many much more interesting psys and dis to swap it with that don't have the debilitating physical effects. And that is coming from a guy who prefers LSA over acid. DXM is poison and it feels like that, sure other dis may not be healthy either, but at least you can enjoy some trippy exploration without being constantly reminded that you have deliberately put a substance inside your body that is destructive to your body. Anyway, do some PCP, K or nitrous instead. Or the holy MXE for that matter.
>>894676I think they produce about the same nausea to me honestly, the DXM a bit more, it seems its the other way around to most people. But I drink ginger tea and eat the ginger itself a few hours before tripping and feel very little nausea this way unless its a large dose. But I get feelings of impending doom on the comeup very often and an associated 'sick' feeling and strong body load, I think this is a normal part of the experience which almost always lifts when you peak.2. I'm not sure what you mean by this question.3. Yes, I am very interested in what the ratio of DXM to LSA could/should be and you could definitely make the DXM trip a bit more psychedelic by adding the LSA. Another thing to think of is the timing of when you should dose them. But you can choose whatever you want, even 1 or 2 HBWR will change a 4-6mg/kg 2nd plat DXM trip. I think you could try 2 HBWR or whatever a light dose of Morning Glories is and 4mg/kg DXM, dosed at the same time you should have a generally mild/moderate trip which peaks about 2.5-4 hours in, but it depends on the DXM formulation; with Robocough you'd be peaking earlier and with the less concentrated formulations you'd peak later. And then you could go from there. Or figure out your response to either substance on its own and work from there.
HeyI'm currently on 200mg of lamotrigine and 300mg of gabapentin daily.I have some ayahuasca ingredients - well, the mimosa/rue version anyway - in my cupboard, and I was thinking of taking that trip pretty soon unless there is some harmful interaction.From what I've been able to find so far there shouldn't really be any except for maybe a somewhat weaker DMT effect, but maybe someone on here has any experience/thoughts on the matter?
>>894695I also have some Mimosa and Syrian rue stored away in some icloud database. Might join you and plan a trip in the near future.
Can't find information on this. I did a lot of drugs when I was younger, drank a lot and had a high speed car accident where I actually stopped breathing for 2 or 3 minutes, they used the defrib or something I suppose. I don't remember any of the experience and my memory of coming back (was in hospital for 5 weeks, had to learn to walk and talk and read again) is foggy.I've come a long way since, grown up and am doing well but still smoke weed every day. I also recently quit nicotine but am having a little trouble. I''m considering a DMT trip to maybe help me face some repressed memories or emotions. I doubt it, but does anyone have any advice regarding using DMT after having died or to remember parts of life they don't remember?I always respected drugs but fell down a bit of a bad path. I'm trying to be smarter now and am doing lots of research on how to obtain, use, and learn from the substance. I think I've grown a lot since my accident and am ready to deal with emotions/memories I may have ignored at the time and since. Any general advice?DMT was always the most intriguing substance to me when I was younger and stupider as well I hope I'm not just trying to fall back down the same path
>>894612Having spent years lurking this forum I've since gathered that the psychedelic experience is highly dependent on the native density of the soul. Even though all our bodies are yellow ray or some bordering between 3rd and 4th density, some of the folks souls are 5th and 6th density and they cannot really relate to most people's experience of these substances when it comes to above moderate doses. Just my 0.02
>>894648How do I identify the native density of my soul? I think it's pretty heavy with all the thinking I do but know nothing of these colors or numbers.Everyone else thanks for the help, dicks. Not the responses I was expecting
>>894680I'm pretty sure he's spewing some new age mysticism bullshit, where the native density of the soul relates to how close a persons soul and consciousness are to moving on to the next stage of evolution whereby you become a type of being that is in comparison to us, on a psychological, spiritual, and conscious awareness level, as we are to ants or microbes. If not, he's just being a gay retard and spewing some other nonsensical bullshit of a different variety, i don't know. if he's actually meaning to use that system of classification to refer to how close somebody is to achieving greater enlightenment and self-actualization, then dressing it in that kind of terminology is some pathetic cringe-inducing autistic-tier shit to do for attention and because it sounds cool to him even though it obscures all the fuckin meaning of what he's talking about and he should probably be embarrassed for doing it
Death. don't get too dark but what's your honest opinion on it /psy/ lets ponder
>>894663Why? Aren't you doing essentially the same thing by believing you know what happens when you die despite having no way of actually knowing? Personally I agree with how you see death: it is a return to nothingness. It easily seems the most likely possibility to me, so much so that I find it difficult even entertaining the idea of an afterlife in any serious manner, but I don't really find it all that sad when human beings exhibit natural human behaviors like trying to rationalize the idea that life somehow continues after they die in a manner that fits within the framework of their personal belief system.So, a human did a human thing... how sad? It's just a non-sequitur to me, is all. >>894665And for once, Awe' God, you and I agree on something. I also feel a kind of relief or peace from the knowledge that I'm going to die one day and, in my opinion, that means I will never experience anything again. The idea that I would continue existing, at least in the form I possess now, indefinitely is scarier to me than knowing I'm going to wink out of existence one day.
Ayy, you guys want a real horror story?Imagine all that quantum-soul shit is actually real.Imagine your consciousness remaining while your body rots away. Locked in place, forever, no senses to tell your consciousness what's going on. I have no mouth and I must scream? What about "I have only my mind and I must scream!"?Just you in your own soliptic quantum-hell until the heat death of the universe in trillions upon trillions of years finally releases you from this Sisyphean torment.
>>894679If you have no senses coming from your body why would you even have any kind of awareness of anything at all?
How does mixrodosing compare to the days after a really good 4 aco dmt trip?The 2 days after my last trip were amazing, can I capture that mindset with microdoses?
From my experience with LSD. The microdose is nothing like the comedown or afterglow. It also gave me HPPD when I was only doing 10ug once every three days but I already had prior visual snow for as far as I can remember before using any drugs.
Never had 4aco dmt, but microdosed (1p-)LSD several times, shit's amazing. I'm in literal godmode on it. Allows me to connect better with people, eliminates my constant ruminating and helps me doing the important stuff.
Some of my GF's friends want to buy some shroom gel caps from me, how much do you think I should charge?
>>894621Depends. Do you like them or nah? Are they idiots or responsible psych users?I'd say 3.5g for anywhere from 10 to 35$ depending on those factors. There's a drug price check thread on the 2nd page of /psy/ and from what I gather average street price is like 30$-40$ or smth.Also, be careful bro. Sold shrooms to a friend of mine a while back, he's not a dumb guy, semi-experienced psych user by now. But he ended up having a public freakout, ambulance was almost called by worried passerbys. We both could have gotten into a lot of trouble. So make sure to only talk about it face.to-face.
where did that second hat come from?
This one time a guy who wouldn't lie fucked a dog on magic mushrooms.
>>894613How many mushrooms did he have to feed his dog before hed let him fuck him?
Tripping on cactusI found this shop that sells a variety of cactus es, I'm not sure how much I need since it's sold in cm not grams.Is it even worth it to trip on these things.
>>894602nobodys got enough patience for that in the age of instant gratification
>>894602It's highly illegal to grow them for cultivation. So you either gotta grow them outside, hope your weather and climate cooperate, and hope to god nobody notices stalks disappearing occasionally OR you grow them in a greenhouse/indoors and have no possible way to explain why your decorative plants are hidden away from view.
>>894602I've never even tried it lol cool projection
I'm taking lithium for bipolar, I see it leaves the system in 5 days. I plan on taking shrooms in the future, and I'm aware of the dangers of mixing lithium with shrooms. Would it be relatively safe to stop lithium for a week, take shrooms, wait a few days, then resume lithium? Would it be okay to do a few times?I really want to take shrooms in the near future, and while I know there are risks, I hope to minimize these as much as I'm able. I've seen studies suggesting that shrooms can help people like me, so I'm not really worried about how it may effect bipolar (cautiously), but I am worried about stopping lithium like that. Thank you for any suggestions
Starting and stopping your medication like that is not a good idea even without throwing psychedelic drugs into the mix. Further, those studies are generally not just people taking mushrooms to trip when they feel like it but are often done in therapeutic settings, as carefully controlled microdoses, or other things of the sort. It doesn't sound as though you've thought about an actual treatment plan that makes sense here, you're being a little cavalier and that can be dangerous.
If you have medication for bipolar, don't just quit it because you wanna try mushrooms.Even for people that can handle their bipolar behaviour without medication, tripping is a bit iffy. I've yet to meet a bipolar psychonaut that has had a nice calm problem-free tripping career.>>894590Don't forget that there's typically a psychologist or psychiatrist there to guide the trip, whether it's in an official capacity or "off the books".
Gif savedAlso, have a bomp
Whats the best substance, in your opinion, to rip your soul apart and give you answers that you can't find sober?
>>894322Keep in my experiences on 4-meo-pcp don't reflect others' very well because by the time I started into RC dissociatives, I had developed a mega-permatolerance to DXM, which in my experience seems to have translated to other dissociatives by making me more tolerant to their actual dissociative effects and experience more of their effects much more.Typically, I would snort it (although it fucking hurts like a motherfucker for a good while), be prepared for a burn. I would also take it orally by parachuting it. It's been a long time, like 4 years or so, since I last took it and I was constantly fucked up back then so my memories are a bit hazy, but I think I used to parachute some and follow that up immediately by snorting some as well.It takes about 2 hours to hit you snorting you, and 3ish hours orally. Don't redose thinking you didn't do enough. For dosing strengths, refer to erowid or psychonautwiki as well to compare to what I say, because again I am tolerant to the dissociative effects of these.40mg is good for simply wanting to calm your mind and even physically relax, 4-meo is not like 3-meo-pcp, where 3-meo is very stimulating and manically so. Overall, 4-meo-pcp feels like what DXM would feel like if it were a cleaner feeling arycyclohexylamine dissociative like Ketamine. It can be mildly stimulating as well as relaxing. 120-150mg is a pretty regular low-moderate dose, ~220mg is a decent moderate to moderate heavy kind o range. and 350-400mg+ is getting pretty heavy, but for me the heavy doses weren't difficult to stomach really. Then again, the trip reports I read from others said they were completely removed from reality at those doses iirc, and I mean I was fucked and pretty removed from reality, but not on the level they were talking about. I suggest comparing my description with trip reports by others because they will give you a better idea of what to more likely expect yourself from taking it.I think 4-meo-pcp itself is one of the best dissociatives to combine with psychedelics. It is highly versatile that way. It requires a higher dose so you have more play when it comes the dosage you take, the potency is more of 75mg-400mg rather than something more like 5-15mg like 3-meo-pcp. It also is balanced enough in its effects physically and mentally speaking that it doesn't negatively interact with psychedelics and can even help combat some of the excessive stimulation and some of the anxiety many psychedelics can cause.
>>894322I've never been lucky enough to do ket, I've pretty much stopped most heavy drug use so I rarely use anything but phenibut, weed, and an adderall prescription now.That said, DXM, while a good start, is very dirty feeling and doesn't represent the aryl derivative dissociatives very well. Based off my experience with MXE and others' descriptions of ketamine, I'd say 4-meo-pcp is just fine for a starter just as much as mxe or ket are. They're all much less manic-psychotic-like stimulating like most other pcp derivatives. 4-meo-pcp has greater potential for the manic psychotomimetic side, but only at such high doses that you'd be almost incapacitated physically speaking from the dissociation (not nearly as much so with 3-meo-pcp, in my experience, lol).4-meo-pcp, unlike its fellow pcp derivatives is actually very forgiving and pretty calm/mellow until higher doses and its relative potency, as i mentioned before, makes it easier to experiment with dosage-wise because there's a good degree of play in it.
Alright boys I'm thinking about taking a literal trip to the happiest place on earth. Any tips, experiences or warnings against this would be greatly appreciated.
>>894266no no no no noterrible idea considering how huge disney crowds get
marilyn manson did that in his 20s, and look what happened to him.
I want to try DMT. Are pure crystals the best option for smoking? What is dosage and price like? And are there testing kits for DMT so I can make sure its not something else like Meth?
Yes. Eurlich's reagent or whatever (For LSD testing) is good to test if your DMT is an indole or not.If it goes purple, you should be good I think.
Is it better to avoid reading about other's trips before I use it my first time? I worry that they'll influence my trips, and I want to see if I can get some insight about my life by doing this.
>>894578If you're worried, then don't. Just be ready to accept anything. I read and did alot of research before I ever tried it, i still have had super unique and life changing experiences. DMT is my favorite drug for introspection honestly. I can't hide from anything in my head, I'm forced to confront it all. It's always for the best
I have a question for my psychonaut anons. I have been doing 10 strips and 20g mush trips for 14 years. I only feel at peace when I''m tripping. Does anyone else have this feeling or am I straight fucked? I suffer from sever HPPD, but I just want to be tripping all the time. I have bad trips and good trips all the time, but I feel most at peace when on these substances. Am I fucked up? Does any one else else have this feeling? I remember my first thumb print with a brother hood of love member and was never the same after, did part of me die then?
>>894155Try phenylpiracetam with a good choline source like cdp or alpha-gpc. 250mg will give you the feelz without the trip.
seems like possible ADHD, i experience the same symptoms, and have it.
>>894155That image OP
Show me your best. I mean more literally resembles what you see on acid, and less so abstractly.This is a common one I know
>>894559Most of that list isn't even videogames related motherfucker.
>>894561In that case it wouldn't make sense to consider god the creator of everything since god just is everything. if we arent describing a creator being who intended and willed existence... into existence, then why are we describing it as god? there is a word for everything, everything. there is a word for the universe/all of existence, the universe. why choose to describe it as god when that concept is loaded with an overwhelming amount of creationism and religious and spiritual baggage? it seems like you're either trying to intentionally be misleading or you're in fact, among many others, ascribing one aspect or much of that creationist and religious/spiritual baggage and associations to the concept unconsciously when there is no reason to be. it's obfuscating the meaning of the concept you're trying to describe. your definition is something you seem to point to in the same way a good amount of feminists do. the actual definition of the term itself is not matching up with its real-world application.
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