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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

LSD triggering PAWS

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- Wed, 03 Jul 2019 22:46:15 EST vgBM0YYf No.896442
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I recently took LSD again after being clean from Methadone, Meth, and Benzos for about 9 months. The experience was really uncomfortable, and honestly felt like it put me back into withdrawal. I only took 100ug, and I felt like I was crashing for 2 days afterward. I expected the trip to be a lot more enjoyable than it turned out to be, but it was still somewhat fun nonetheless, They are Voidrealm blotter, and I have 5 left.

I feel like LSD trigger post-acute withdrawal syndrome, andI don't know if I want to take anymore after how annoying the "crash" was. I also felt pretty tense during my trip, but I had nice visuals with colors warping and flowing,. I'd really like to delve in high doses, but I am afraid of being even more uncomfortable. I don't want to take any benzos to abort the trip because I used to be dependent on them for years, and my brain is still healing for that.

Any other recovering drug addicts on here that still love to trip?
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Clara Gammlewore - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 08:54:35 EST B3thjcU0 No.896531 Reply
>>896442
I've never been on methadone, buuut I've dipped my hand into all 3 of those categories myself plenty of times.
PAWS is a bitch.
No one seemed to really answer your question as to PAWS specifically so,
>Uncomfortable
What kind of uncomfortable? Tactile hallucinations? Hot/Cold? Freezing hands and a burning chest? An almost unmovable sense of crushing depression? Be specific if ya can.
The only thing I can recommend is making sure your body is running in tip-tip shape, are you getting all of your vitamins? Are you deficient in anything? Do you have any disease/illness/mental issues? If so, what medication are you taking for any of it?
>LSD triggers PAWS
I think it's just moreso that you're probably STILL in PAWS if anything.
Its been over a year for me and I still have occasional issues with it.
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Hedda Dublingford - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 23:10:35 EST +zVqs3xZ No.896539 Reply
>>896442
>I think it's just moreso that you're probably STILL in PAWS if anything.

I second this. And damn I've just realized I've never looked into research on how to reduce/recover from PAWS. I assumed the basic stuff helps but who knows.
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Caroline Barrypick - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 23:34:37 EST nlxdErr8 No.896540 Reply
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You know what dude I don't have too much to say about this except that I've seen quite a few people suffer from the same experience.

Its as if the brain can only be correctly wired for an acute class of drugs at a time.

I don't really see people flip flop well. Say for example you don't take heroin and then next day take acid. That radical perspective change isn't good for anyone.

If I were to give you any advice I would just micro dose for a bit. That will give you a better transition but also give your body time to recognize whats going on.

Knocked out

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- Mon, 08 Jul 2019 00:51:33 EST E8ul6T86 No.896521
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Where do we go when someone gives our system a hard shut down?
Waking up not knowing what happened, why you’re laying down and lack the balance to stand up. We are all on here describing trips, I wanna know about your trips caused by passing out, blacking out, getting knocked out. You can breathe your ass off to release dmt, you can ride the Gforce thing where jet pilots experience 9gs and when the blood pulls from their brain, black out and have a dmt trip. Is this realm the realm we experience on psychedelics? Do different psychedelics take us to other dimensions existing on the same plane?
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George Turveyspear - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 03:48:15 EST 7OBsp/5q No.896524 Reply
>>896521
>You can breathe your ass off to release dmt, you can ride the Gforce thing where jet pilots experience 9gs and when the blood pulls from their brain, black out and have a dmt trip
Neither of those will cause the release of endogenous DMT. Specifically, in both of those examples, the mechanism behind the loss of consciousness/altered state of consciousness is acute hypoxia, meaning the brain is not receiving enough oxygen resulting in grossly impaired cognition and highly abnormal brain states.

Not to be a dick, but it's pretty clear from your post that you have little to no working concept of how the brain and consciousness actually function.

To preface my long-winded response (understatement of the century), good thread man. I like discussions like this but don't all that often really see them on /psy/ even though you'd figure it would be full of them. They show up, they're just surprisingly sparse. Also, I apologize for my bluntness, please don't take it personally. I don't say it intending to insult you, I'm just being forthright. I can definitely be a bit of an asshole.

>Where do we go when someone gives our system a hard shut down?
I think a more important question to ask prior to even attempting to ask yours is "where", if anywhere, are we when we're awake and cognizant? Is it even correct to conceptualize our conscious experience of the self in the context of existing located in some kind of tangible physical setting? In order to go "somewhere else" while knocked unconscious, we must actually be "somewhere" to begin with.

To give you my answer, I don't think it even makes sense to consider ourselves--that is to say, our conscious minds--to be existing in any given place. The mind is a metaphysical phenomenon, meaning it does not physically or temporally exist anywhere within the physical or temporal planes and therefore does not correspond with any spatial or temporal coordinates. There is no way we can hypothetically navigate through space time to a given physical and temporally location and actually stumble across the entity that is the conscious mind.

Consciousness and the mind are emergent properties that result from the physical interactions of specific discrete, localized (in terms of both space and time) components of energy and matter. Therefore, the existence of the mind exists in the imaginary plane, which is like a kind of an "upper" or perhaps "lower/sub" layer that exists beyond the boundaries of the physical and temporal planes (spacetime). It technically exists, but as the name implies, it is entirely imaginary. It is not strictly subject to the limitations and restrictions imposed on the energy and matter within spacetime. The imaginary is allowed a much greater deal of fluidity regarding its state of existence.
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George Turveyspear - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 03:48:35 EST 7OBsp/5q No.896525 Reply
>>896524
>---Part 2---

The imaginary plane consists of realized information created by physical interactions, it's a like a storage device used to contain information so that it can be communicated/trasnmitted and received by the components(energy/matter) of spacetime. The information stored can only be accessed by the localalized components interacting with one another responsible for creating it. Information is created by essentially all physical interactions and the systems they belong to. What I mean by a system is something very broad. It's just any set of components working as part of some interconnected network that takes a form of input and generates an output through the functional interaction of its components. You've got weather systems, electronic communication systems, biological systems, ecological systems, etc.

Well, just as it so happens, consciousness/the mind is the output of our central nervous system, which itself is a system comprised of many biological systems existing with ecological and environmental systems, etc. This means the mind/consciousness/the self (and therefore you, me, and anybody and everybody else) is information that exists in the imaginary plane that is stored, communicated/transmitted and received by the various components of your central nervous system and can only be accessed locally by the system that generated it (you) until some new system is invented or utilized whose mechanism bridges and connects our individual minds to a system that is comprised of an interconnected network of minds.

One such way of connecting an individual human system (from here on out referred to as being a person) is through the creation and manipulation of soundwaves that correspond to sounds and words that are themselves part of a system of language allowing for the meaningful ocmmunication of information by allowing it to be interpreted by the person receiving the information. Another way is through the use of discrete symbols that represent corresponding sounds and words within that language system that can be communicated through a visual medium. The internet itself is an interconnected network allowing for the mass storage and communication of information encoded in visual and auditory formats.

Knowing that, "where" is the internet? Sure, it's run by physical servers connected to one another all over the world, but the internet itself is not located within those servers, they're merely the localized systems generating the imaginary space storing the information comprising the internet. The internet is the whole that is greater than the sum of its parts--a unique entity arising from the mechanism driving the function and interaction of the system's components. It is the manifestation of the unified experience of its system, through its components, operating in harmony.

I think what will help illustrate this a bit more is by asking the same question again, but about something else. So, where is "English"? Where are any of the various languages? Dictionaries? Of course not. The dictionary is merely a documented lexicon of a given language. The words of a language are not the language itself but rather are merely symbolic signifiers of the concepts individual words signify. The rules of a language aren't the language either, but merely the manner in which the components/signifiers of a language (words) are to be oriented to facilitate meaningful communication.

Imaginary entites such as the mind are in fact imaginary systems that utilize the stored information in the imaginary space they exist in to generate new information themselves in I guess what you'd call extraimaginary or superimaginary spaces they generate (this is a recursive process that can be repeated without any real theoretical limit as far as I can tell--the imaginary space is already imaginary so it can't really get any more imaginary from there, it's just a quirk of metaphysical phenomena that it can be repeated infinitely; this isn't the most accurate analogy, but it's a bit like utilizing the identity property in mathematics for algebra problems to help solve them by replacing a number with numbers and the operation of equivalent value). Therefore they do not exist locally in any physical or temporal location, but as functions of local systems located in a given physical and temporal location.

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Caroline Gottingbit - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 06:02:46 EST kaHbac2v No.896528 Reply
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>>896524
>Consciousness and the mind are emergent properties that result from the physical interactions of specific discrete, localized components of energy and matter
How about the other way around...
>The imaginary plane consists of realized information created by physical interactions
That would make imaginary plane conditional on the physical, where as when you understand that both are imaginary, you recognize that the imaginary is the foundation, not the physical.
>it's a like a storage device used to contain information so that it can be communicated/trasnmitted and received by the components(energy/matter) of spacetime
Yeah, that sounds accurate, maybe a simpler way to put it is that it's the nature and structure of existence and so all energy, information, ideas, whatever ARE it.
>Well, just as it so happens, consciousness/the mind is the output of our central nervous system
It helps shape the consciousness into what we experience as consciousness, it's not the source of consciousness/infinity/existence. There are many forms of consciousness and self awareness very different from ours, like a tree or even a rock, they don't have brains...
>and can only be accessed locally by the system that generated it (you) until some new system is invented or utilized whose mechanism bridges and connects our individual minds to a system that is comprised of an interconnected network of minds.
I don't want to start a discussion on this, but FYI we can access each others consciousness by resonance which means we won't become each other but for all intents and purposes we will be partly thinking the same thing (vescica pisces). This is btw quite simple to explain if you subscribe to the non local consciousness understanding of things. If all information is just a set of frequencies and made from the same clay so to speak in the same place then it would make sense that they are connected... I'm not saying this is a good explanation, but at least the realization confirmed by results IRL doesn't boggle my mind like it would for many people who's worldview is a little more narrow. All vibrations being in the same sea of vibrations, when one resonates with another, they interact... Empathy is the first step to telepathy.
>One such way of connecting an individual human system (from here on out referred to as being a person) is through the creation and manipulation of soundwaves that correspond to sounds and words that are themselves part of a system of language allowing for the meaningful ocmmunication of information by allowing it to be interpreted by the person receiving the information
I think this is already being done and we call it music, but as you can see the symbols aren't very well defined in such a communication system. If I misunderstood what you meant, I'd really like to hear an elaboration. As for visual symbols until we can create and exchange them freely on the spot via the internet and AI maybe this has a serious bandwidth problem, nut I agree this is an option especially if geometry is utilized in a smart way. Actually such medium has advantages over the primal communication of direct vescica pisces based on resonance. Just how our languages although always getting us lost in translation serve a purpose that would be defeated by too strong a telepathic communication which is btw always happening behind the scenes.
>Knowing that, "where" is the internet?
I concur with your general answer to OP, but not with the details. In this case the internet is an idea that you interpret from the physical reality you interface with. Just like a tree falling in the woods, which is interpreted by you as a sound, if there is no one to hear the sound the falling tree didn't make a sound even though it made the air vibrate if you catch my drift. So as with all similar questions the internet exists in our consciousness which as we have already agreed is non local. The internet being a specific interpretation of the happenings is also a result of our unique perspective on the matter at hand. Just like a sound can only be heard from a perspective of a brain with ears.

LSD at a Funeral

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- Wed, 03 Jul 2019 13:21:52 EST zYkTxPE7 No.896428
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My grandma merged with the beloved last week. She was an extremely devout catholic and intensely spiritual. She was a very musically inclined person as well and maybe even a child of the 60's.

I view psychedelics as somewhat of a sacrament. Would anyone here advise it taking 100 ug the day of the funeral? I feel like I'd be more connected with her spirit. I'll try to have some benzos on hand in case I need to get out of a bad head space.
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Mr. Nobody - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 20:50:01 EST pdXwTEdW No.896517 Reply
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I ended up taking it in my suite I stayed in the day before before. Had quite an enjoyable and profound experience rehearsing the funeral music the night before with my dad and uncle as well.

Overall a very deep weekend for me, and extremely emotional.

Thanks for all the replies

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Mr. Nobody - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 23:47:47 EST pdXwTEdW No.896520 Reply
>>896517
Dosed roughly 150 micrograms, by the way. Just in case anyone was wondering about the dosage. It was a slightly large tab. White on white, no taste and I tested it with a test kit beforehand.
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Caroline Gottingbit - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 05:18:03 EST kaHbac2v No.896527 Reply
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>>896517
Sounds a lot like PKD's Adjustment Bureau

Didn't quite understand the timing, but good for you OP.

DXM and 2C-B

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- Sun, 07 Jul 2019 20:59:58 EST +zVqs3xZ No.896518
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Is there a reason why this combo doesn't seem to have much attention? I haven't tried it. I've been researching psychedelics which tend towards heavy visuals and a mild headspace (AL-LAD and 4-HO-MET are also recommended). It sounds like comboing any of these with DXM would make for a really euphoric trip with intense visuals and a comfy headspace. My only concern would be overheating or overstimulation, but that should only be with large doses of either.
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Cyril Blackworth - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 02:41:21 EST 6b0rvHKi No.896522 Reply
>>896518
Drink lots of water preferably cold and have a fan blowing. Take off clothes if you start overheating. take shower for ultimate trippiness

are these psychoactive shrooms?

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- Sun, 30 Jun 2019 21:15:48 EST MZiT8pOd No.896391
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Are these banded mottlegill? Found them in my yard next to a pine tree and am curious.
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Sophie Gemmerdore - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 01:20:34 EST 0uE7Ci0v No.896463 Reply
>>896391
From memory, those are shut down your everything shrooms. A small amount
causing organ failure.
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Lillian Pimblepire - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 05:21:58 EST MU5DQUTc No.896467 Reply
>>896463
>those are shut down your everything shrooms
the infamous "President Madagascar" shrooms
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Polly Pindleville - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 14:25:13 EST kaHbac2v No.896477 Reply
>>896467
Yep, those are the ones... I hear people trip 2 days on them, much like datura, but with psychedelia.

Big or small

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- Thu, 04 Jul 2019 01:19:09 EST E8ul6T86 No.896445
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Which do you prefer? Biggies or the smalls, powdery vs eating 3 of these big guys (7grams) I am going to eat 7 grams but curious what you would do in this position. Would you just grind it all up?
You like chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing?
Do you grind it up and make a tea?
ARE YOU COOL ENOUGH TO USE LEMONS?!
(I still eat the remnants after making a tea just in case I missed any)
I wanna extract the psilocin from them really. Has anyone here experience crystal of the gods?
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Awe' God !!Bwteoy2D - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 09:42:14 EST kaHbac2v No.896451 Reply
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>>896445
for economy grind and eat,

my own personal preference in your case would be small mushies, grinded, tea, filtered, lemon added.

In general eating raw or somehow extracting juice or tea from raw would be top. Raw tastes great and the trip is very fresh also, but having no solid matter can be of benefit especially for heroic doses. Crystals are amazing!

If you have good filtration equipment (lab filters funnel and vacuum) you can do crystals if you have 99% alcohol. I have only used ethanol and that's the only one I'd endorse for this. Fridge or freezer may come in handy, but not necessary.
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Awe' God !!Bwteoy2D - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 09:44:13 EST kaHbac2v No.896452 Reply
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>>896451
oh you can do crystals anyhow if you are ready for inefficiency, lots of play and lots of time.
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Of_Wizard - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 12:27:25 EST E8ul6T86 No.896455 Reply
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>>896445
>>896451
Thank you for the replies! I feel like because of having access to psychs over the years, it has allowed for many different ways of taking them. Set n setting is important starting out, there are other important variables to consider as well. What sparked my post was seeing one earlier about which mushrooms out of the batch would be more potent. I have always read it’s the smaller ones, but when I run the experiment myself you realize you’re no scientist and not lab testing any of it. So if all we are doing is just eating them to ‘find out’ you’ll have to keep on keeping on. And what I’ve found is I have no idea and enjoy finding new ideas/ different approaches. Thanks again for the replies! I really want to type out what my routine is , [spolier] if anyone cared [/spoiler]


tl;dr
I believe there really is no difference in ‘how you get there’, so ingest these things how ever you wish. But more importantly, take them. Micro doses are cool, but nothing like the dmt feelings of higher doses. 5 is cool, I like 10 but 9 makes me think of Tesla and the universe and 3, 6, 9. Idk. What I have experienced off dmt, mushrooms, L, I have from meditating and hyperventilating. I mean deep breathing. We are no different than the plants we smoke and eat. We all need water. Stay hydrated, breathe thru what ever it is you experience. Cause that’s all it is. Yours. There is no ‘doing it wrong’. Who’s to say that tea was weak cause the shrooms? What if it was weak cause you needed more. Or YOU fucked it up. It’s crazy

Psylocibin Mushrooms

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- Mon, 01 Jul 2019 15:07:40 EST L7oHM49G No.896407
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I have a question because of the mistake of not having a balance
I wanted to ask if there are mushrooms with more potency (with more accumulated psylocibin) and if you can see it physically.
I have a small amount and I would like to know if you can physically see if one part is more powerful than another.
I'm afraid it will not work ;-;
Thanks for the help
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Ebenezer Snodville - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 21:54:31 EST I7xsXuQN No.896438 Reply
>>896420
Yes, there's a lot of contention about kits but my recommendation is use it for your first grow, collect some spore prints then PF tek in the future

LSD myths and rumors

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- Fri, 28 Jun 2019 11:02:30 EST V4ufBS8T No.896338
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Post in this thread the rumors and debunked (or not) myths you know/have heard about LSD.
Try to give advice to others and debunk/confirm the rumors they post.

Help me out with these:

  • There is an original LSD which is the one created by Hoffman and the recipe is still secret and is being kept by his family.

  • If the blotter has a bitter taste then it's not LSD
OR
  • If the blotter has a bitter taste then it was sprayed with a substance which helps the LSD "stay" on the blotter

  • LSA and all the other forms of LSD are "bad" and only the original LSD-25 is "good".

  • Vitamin C will calm your trip somewhat

I heard all of these from junkie/stoner friends of mine, they are not the types who do research.
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Jesus Christ - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 15:22:16 EST 1+lO5BI7 No.896433 Reply
>>896432
damn dawg u got me

I gotta step up my mufuhn game yah nah meen? peehole trippin here we come yeh
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Walter Niddlehit - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 17:47:14 EST O61PecZf No.896437 Reply
>>896433
Hell yeah homie, my one regret in life will be that you can't do jenkem this way.
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, - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 04:56:59 EST vIdNVPIK No.896449 Reply
Bitterness may be the medium. Different blotter paper.

It has many lab uses. There are many blotter paper used in labs for many reasons. Rate of absorption for specific purposes, etc.

LSD as a treatment

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- Tue, 02 Jul 2019 16:45:48 EST zjp0/eYH No.896417
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So I have ED which is a problem I have been trying to solve with physical means. However as the problem has persisted (and realizing that masturbating was unaffected u it) I believe its soley a mental problem.

After a few acid trips and coming to terms with other personal issues, I have a feeling that I could also fix the ED with a few trips devoted to fixing it. The logic I see that its sort of a mental block I developed and that by taking LSD I could break down the blocks and get my dick back.

Anyone know if this could work, or if they've tried it themselves for their own mental issues?
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Hamilton Dandlekatch - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 17:28:08 EST kaHbac2v No.896418 Reply
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>>896417
sure it could. But that is more dependent on you whereas with shrooms it would also depend on you but you would be given a narrative or a hero's journey. With acid you will kind of have to construct a method and a journey.
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George Bammlestun - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 03:32:35 EST I0Vr4mqP No.896446 Reply
>>896418
Yeah from my experience I was expecting that I would have to work hard at it(hehe) to get any sort of progress.

Outdoor activities on acid

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- Tue, 18 Jun 2019 07:03:48 EST kfiGoZKH No.896065
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Hello everyone.

I'm planning on taking around 100-150 ug in a few days. I'l be outside in nature and alone for the majority of my trip. What activities would you suggest (your personal favourites or maybe something you don't like personally, but heard/read that others enjoy).

As I wont be able to come back home to take some things or put them away, I can't take a lot of things with me as I don't want to be carrying a too heavy of a backpack all day.

The weather forecast suggests that it will rain, but there are a few spots where I'll be able to go to hide from it, if, for example, I'll want to draw or read. (I'll be wearing a raincoat and maybe taking an umbrella anyways).

Thanks.
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Thomas Sunkinnire - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 04:30:24 EST xsdcGPW4 No.896414 Reply
>>896065
Had my first 2 trips recently and both times I cycled around a huge big park, I really enjoyed it. Bring a bike!
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Jesus Christ - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 21:52:07 EST 1+lO5BI7 No.896421 Reply
>>896075
deSSert has two letter S's because you want MORE

deSert only has one S, unless you are indeed referring to after dinner treats

Psilocybin and enthusiasm

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- Thu, 20 Jun 2019 22:45:00 EST 566A8Ti1 No.896125
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Anyone cured themselves this way? Gonna make a real attempt soon. Can't go on living like this.
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Sidney Webberman - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 12:10:15 EST /Ow6FV1k No.896315 Reply
Did David Byrne of Talking Heads fame stop being enthusiastic after doing all that acid? Heck nawh. Did it help him become one of the most respected songwriters in the 80s? Yes. Don't let anyone tell you that people with enthusiasm don't fit in with society or aren't valued within it, yes it's harder in many many ways to live your life with enthusiasm but "normal" people have their own problems that make life difficult as well. I've had enthusiastic friends who are happier than the happiest normies I know, and normies who have terrible treatment-resistant depression and have no idea how to cope with their problems compared to depressed enthusiastic folks who've been coping with difficult shit their whole life and have learned how to make the most of it.

Hope that helps OP, if your local community treats you like shit then that's really awful, remember that enthusiastic people have contributed many invaluable things to society, science and culture that the world would be much poorer without.
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Eugene Sullybanks - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 22:01:13 EST ctvbmuqz No.896422 Reply
think about this
even if acid cured enthusiasm
do you think it would change you overnight? you spent your whole life with enthusiasm. you have become the enthusiasm.
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Priscilla Demmlebanks - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 06:31:39 EST WZZzvuQp No.896423 Reply
>>896422
"You merely adopted the enthusiasm. I was born in it, molded by it."

QuickTrip

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- Wed, 19 Jun 2019 22:09:54 EST WWVcVP+8 No.896109
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So just got my hands on some 4-aco-met. I've never done any tryptamine based psychedelics, only lysergamides. I know that with lysergamides I basically need about 12-15 hours to myself before I can finally get a few hours (4-5 hours) of sleep and return to baseline.

Would 14-15 hours be enough time for me to trip and sleep on the the 4-aco-met? I'm not going to have a chance for about two months to have a full day to myself to trip on lysergamides, and I'd like to get a trip in next week after work, without being completely useless the next day at work. Planning to do 20-25 mg of the stuff.

I know the tryptamines are far shorter in duration of the effects and are more sedating rather than stimulating, but I just want to know from the experience of others whether or not this will translate to an experience I can work in to my schedule.
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Basil Worthingford - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 18:25:24 EST HcKjCjGa No.896387 Reply
Metocin is the holy grail of psychedelics.

Shulgin's "Promotors"

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Anyone tried boosting other chems with MDPH, 2C-D, or MDPR?
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Interesting that 2c-d has those properties, first time I hear about this, thanks.
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