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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated April 10)
How Much 1st Time Ignore Report View Thread Reply
James Breffinghall - Tue, 21 May 2019 20:57:58 EST ID:iHQJNtsp No.895513
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1st time. What's better 1g or 3.5g (the variant is penis envy).
This will be my first time with any psychedelic. Purpose - actually not so much recreational as introspective and research. What is wrong with me? How did I let myself get like this? Am I depressed? Can I feel strong feelings?
I read a lot of trip reports and did loads of research and I hope I can get an insightful experience.
but yeah I'm worried about it being my first time and I don't want it to be too crazy
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Phyllis Pockstone - Wed, 22 May 2019 18:14:36 EST ID:H148MNFo No.895543 Ignore Report Reply
Maybe nothing happened? And I was expecting it to so my sober self is just dumbfounded right now and that's the real trip. Like I've been sober this whole time and my sober self convinced me that I wasn't sober, but actually I was the whole time.
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Phyllis Pockstone - Wed, 22 May 2019 18:21:07 EST ID:H148MNFo No.895544 Ignore Report Reply
I've made a fool of myself again.
I shouldn't have even posted here. Sorry guys.
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PirateMike - Wed, 22 May 2019 18:46:45 EST ID:TTFYTBlU No.895545 Ignore Report Reply
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>>895544
It's fine, it was fun. It's all part of the experience, the dose you took isn't even close to a serious session of drinking or some good weed. take more in a few days and enjoy it ;). I can definitely tell you were not sober by your replies, lmao.


Setting Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Henry Blallerkork - Fri, 10 May 2019 15:38:08 EST ID:HErqS3Vn No.895303
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Whats your favourite setting for taking psychedelics? Silent darkness? Nature? etc.
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Stinky pete - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:41:21 EST ID:UNeXkWw/ No.895384 Ignore Report Reply
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>>895303
A down pour in my neighborhoods woods
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Priscilla Snodman - Wed, 22 May 2019 17:24:02 EST ID:dHUHEaD2 No.895534 Ignore Report Reply
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I just had a beautiful trip at Perpetua coast in Oregon last weekend was lovely .
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Martin Hocklefuck - Wed, 22 May 2019 17:55:55 EST ID:jl4B8s9v No.895541 Ignore Report Reply
>>895340
Word, my guy.
>>895534
fugging lovely 10/10


Big 5 personality traits Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Eugene Sashfoot - Wed, 15 May 2019 03:48:28 EST ID:+zVqs3xZ No.895370
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I think, tentatively, people who like psychedelics are probably high in Openness, low in Neuroticism and high in Agreeableness, in respective order of importance. If you like dissociatives you might be the opposite. Psychedelics break down barriers, dissociatives put barriers up. Of course it's deeper and more complex than that, there is obviously some overlap but as a general picture it works for me. This is to say nothing about how useful/helpful hallucinogens could be.
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George Billyforth - Tue, 21 May 2019 11:31:35 EST ID:1WBKmyG+ No.895503 Ignore Report Reply
>>895495
Why would dissos put up walls?
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Doris Dasslecocke - Tue, 21 May 2019 14:31:28 EST ID:jKlsfidd No.895504 Ignore Report Reply
>>895495
Both drugs and ideologies are way to complicated to reduce like that
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Hannah Drollybedging - Wed, 22 May 2019 17:09:25 EST ID:sl7DyCSC No.895532 Ignore Report Reply
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>low in Neuroticism

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


Is salvia worth trying? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Darwin Floobus - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:28:56 EST ID:9eBuupcg No.895520
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As someone who's had a handful of psychedelic experiences (Mushrooms and LSD) I've always been curious about salvia. I've wanted to try DMT too but have no access to it but there is quite a bit of salvia near me. I'm just wondering if it's worth trying. I've read the trip stories of people being turned into a zipper for what feels like 30 years and others losing their minds. Is it really that intense for everyone? Is there any positives of a salvia trip? Or is it simply not worth it if you fear whats to come?
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Martin Hocklefuck - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:53:50 EST ID:jl4B8s9v No.895521 Ignore Report Reply
>>895520
It's a terpene, not an indole-based drug, and so it's its own beast. Never done it, there seem to be positives though ranging from loving the trippiness to loving the return from a very foreign trip. Make sure you are doing the right stuff in the right amounts (30x, 90x?) Keep researching but it should be safe and you seem mentally prepared.
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Phyllis Bubberstone - Wed, 22 May 2019 15:23:59 EST ID:LoQ8zsw6 No.895528 Ignore Report Reply
Never tried it, but it fucks you up completely. Be careful with that stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v26zC-1eCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-iXEfwqtG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub1b_1fVD8o

People most likely were seeing thousands multidimensional objects during filming.
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Frederick Smallspear - Wed, 22 May 2019 15:27:30 EST ID:VerXKUB2 No.895529 Ignore Report Reply
I've smoked it, it's the only psychedelic I've done. You mostly just hear your own thoughts amplified and distorted, and get somewhat vivid visions. It also makes you really groggy right after.


Research Chemical: DOB Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Hedda Bardcocke - Wed, 22 May 2019 05:16:52 EST ID:fvtP0LqV No.895519
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I know this reads like a drug propaganda pamphlet but please never ever ever ever take DOB if you value the integrity of your mind.

I know I sound gay or lame or easy to troll or w/e but I only took 3 tabs (thinking it was LSD, weeks ago) and my mind has never recovered. Please for your own safety do not fuck with that stuff... At least unless you know what you're doing

I'm only saying this because I care and because I'm literally retarded now, and have a laundry list of symptoms to multiple mental illnesses (as well as hallucinations) Idk if I'm gonna come back fully but this experience so far has been living hell

If this is still HPPD its way more intense than I've ever seen it
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Martin Hocklefuck - Wed, 22 May 2019 13:59:29 EST ID:jl4B8s9v No.895522 Ignore Report Reply
I am a believer in the potential of these drugs to reset/reimprint neural circuits. (For example look up MDMA social learning in rats) I also believe that what you've done to yourself is somehow not irreversible and that you can get better but I really do not know how. It would take time I'm sure but I think the step one is this, and I'd like to hear what people who have done DOB think:

I think that despite being a psychedelic amphetamine, DOB isn't something unique or truly fucked, and that basically you had a really bad trip just the same way you could have a bad trip on shrooms or LSD. I feel like you can come back, even fully, but the first step is fully affirming that it's possible. Best wishes.
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Phyllis Pockstone - Wed, 22 May 2019 15:23:36 EST ID:H148MNFo No.895527 Ignore Report Reply
That's scary shit dude. I guess that's why test kits are so necessary.


Vaping dmt after drinking Kava Kava Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Doris Hibbershit - Tue, 21 May 2019 22:24:59 EST ID:vwFRcti1 No.895517
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Does anyone have any experience with this? And help would be greatly appreciated.
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Martin Hocklefuck - Wed, 22 May 2019 14:01:22 EST ID:jl4B8s9v No.895523 Ignore Report Reply
>>895517
seems to me like it would just be another synergistic, safe effect and you'll mostly perceive the action of the DMT so that it would be almost pointless to do the Kava. Are you trying to do a ritual or something OP?


Penis Envy mushrooms? Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Alice Gorringcocke - Thu, 16 May 2019 23:01:56 EST ID:3t3xnuLi No.895432
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Sup /psy/, never tripped shrooms so I bought two grams of cubes from my dealer. He said the strain, penis envy, is fucking turbocharged and said 1g of it should be a good trip, but everything I've ever read says a good shrooms trip would be around 2-4 grams. Will 1 gram really do the trick? Or should I take both grams
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Clara Turveyfoot - Tue, 21 May 2019 02:31:26 EST ID:bfB0voM7 No.895498 Ignore Report Reply
>>895433
>soak in lemon juice 20mins
Why? Literally why? The reason to acidify mushrooms is to convert the psilocybin to psilocin, which shortens the onset by about ten to twenty minutes. If you're doing this, it's something done the night before, otherwise you've just wasted time. Also, lemonade is sufficient in ph.
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Esther Blucklebig - Tue, 21 May 2019 02:49:54 EST ID:ivpB8JNW No.895499 Ignore Report Reply
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>>895498
supposedly, the acid would spontaneously allow for the dephosphorylation of the psilocybin via hydrolysis, but that doesn't really make sense because this would be self-limiting.
I read your post on "Active Discussions" and I'm hypothesizing here, but I believe you are right. In humans, the pathway that the psilocybin goes though is via human phosphatase in the small intestine.
Following this logic, if you wanted to do this reaction ahead of time, the easiest way to do it would be to use the phosphatase of a food culture product. Lactobacillus of yogurt or kefir might work for this.

I don't have any mushrooms for independent research, but can anyone who has shrooms do me a favor for science and powder your shrooms and combine with yogurt to test this? The shrooms would work either way but the Lactobacillus should dephosphorylate the psilocybin faster than acid alone because of enzymic action of the live culture. Thank you.

also, anyone who is actually studied in O-chem should school me if I'm wrong on this, because I'm only Computational Biology and you actually do the math on the electrochemistry of this better than I could
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Phoebe Gallerbanks - Wed, 22 May 2019 00:19:29 EST ID:8miTfqG+ No.895518 Ignore Report Reply
>>895498
>why?
> to convert the psilocybin to psilocin

...did you have a question? It doesn't have to be done the night before, 20 or 30 minutes should be more than sufficient. and it does much more than shorten the onset. In my experience, it shortens the duration of the trip and increases the intensity of effects. It's almost as if it has converted the psilocybin into psilocin, instead of letting your body do the heavy lifting.

snort it up your butthole for all I care, just telling you what has worked for me.

I'd avoid lemonade, personally, because I find consuming shitloads of sugar before a trip to be unpleasant.


Bender Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Matilda Seddleman - Mon, 13 May 2019 13:22:26 EST ID:WWVcVP+8 No.895333
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Anyone here ever go on a psychedelic bender before? What's the longest you've ever tripped and redosed to extend the trip?
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Reuben Blatherman - Tue, 21 May 2019 21:38:55 EST ID:NyCM08YE No.895515 Ignore Report Reply
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A couple summers ago I reaaally delved into the psychedelic world. I had an Altoids tin with a vial and a sheet of lucy, gram of dmt, a little 2cb, dob, wax, xanax etc. It was my ultimate stash.

I began gingerly and only took a hit here and there and started to microdose every couple days. Which soon turned into taking a hit before work, 3 hits after, stay up all night, drop a little bit to function. This all took place over the course of 6 months, but the real gnarly part lasted about three months.

I was moving a decent amount of lucy and eating even more. Finally I stepped into the DMT realm. The first time I tried it, I was tripping on a half hit after work still and had some really nice visuals, flower of life stuff and showed my girlfriend at the time how to smoke it. However, my dmt guy also was my xanax guy. Which just so happens to be my kryptonite apparently.

Fast forward about a week and we go see a show at a local venue. It was cage the elephant. Not my top fav but it was a fun night out. I took three hits, ol lady took two and I had some extras I handed out to a couple lucky strangers. Girlfriend is flooored buy the cid so we step outside, I pull a xanax bar from the cuff of my jeans. In 20 minutes shes sorted and loopy, so I eat a whole one, why?. We drive home with no recollection.

So I get the bright idea of busting out the DMT. We lay down in the living room on a mattress, I sandwich about 100mg+ in between green tea leaves.

BLAST OFF!

I blacked out a huge portion of the trip but the issues it revealed to me and allowed me to heal are something I carry with me every day. I came to BAWLING, saying "Im so sorry, I'm soooo sorry" Sobbing. We both had profound experiences but mine clearly had immediate lasting effects. The girl and I broke up maybe a month later, but we still love each other immensely.

I changed that day. I lost my edge and my anger. I learned to love. I learned to let go.
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Reuben Blatherman - Tue, 21 May 2019 21:43:10 EST ID:NyCM08YE No.895516 Ignore Report Reply
>>895515

I forgot to mention the next day all the drugs in my tin were gone. I must have trashed it all except the lucy because I had no dmt and xans.
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Martin Hocklefuck - Wed, 22 May 2019 14:05:18 EST ID:jl4B8s9v No.895524 Ignore Report Reply
>>895515
inspiring stuff thank you polite nb


Friend suffering from anxiety attacks took mushrooms for the first time and I'm a bit worried Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Oliver Gassleshaw - Tue, 21 May 2019 19:49:29 EST ID:vbqRCKE/ No.895511
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A friend of mine took mushrooms for the first time last weekend, and now she's not talking anymore. She says she needs time to get over the mushrooms and digest the experience. Is she ok?

She had anxiety attacks before so she was hoping mushrooms would help but maybe it made it worse?
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Hugh Clirringhall - Tue, 21 May 2019 19:55:58 EST ID:MU5DQUTc No.895512 Ignore Report Reply
just give her time man let her do her thing


Mescalin general Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Augustus Doshchod - Fri, 03 May 2019 20:08:11 EST ID:xE1u2IUU No.895200
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Im going to Cusco where mescaline can apparently be acquired legally and I want to try it for the 1st time in Machu Picchu, however I don't want to risk ruining the experience by tripping too hard/seeing too much visuals, being nauseous, feeling overwhelmed etc. I can't try it beforehand though since I only have few days in the city before heading to MP, so my tolerance would shoot up.

Any advice? How to measure the dose without a scale if you buy it from a market? How much would be a good dose to get a taste for the substance for some one with experience from hiking on public areas on other psychedelics, never puked on 15-20 mg of 2cb/1-2gs of shrooms etc? How long to drop before embarking on the hike to MP?
Is the compound legal in other surrounding countries?

General mescaline thread
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Ebenezer Grimson - Tue, 21 May 2019 16:03:15 EST ID:n532rFRR No.895507 Ignore Report Reply
Alright, so Peru veteran here. Listen up.

They offer dumb gringos "psychedelic experiences" for big buck, be it ayahuasca or mescaline. It's all bullshit and potentially dangerous. There's fake shamans adding datura to the mix and shit, and there's like 100 places in Cuzco you can find those shamans, legally. Don't bother, it's not worth it.

In Machu Picchu pueblo I haven't seen any of those, so I guess you won't be able to get it there anyway.

What you should do is go to Iquitos or Puerto Madonaldo, and talk to people. Real stuff will be available to you for free, and you'll immediately knew the real shaman from the phoney.

That being said, it's a prime example of dumb western worldview in which it's perfectly fine for people to do drug tourism or look for appropriate other cultures spiritual or psychedelic experiences. It's just fake, it won't stick to you.
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Ebenezer Grimson - Tue, 21 May 2019 16:05:04 EST ID:n532rFRR No.895508 Ignore Report Reply
>>895507

Also mescaline is unnatural for Cuzco, it's the psychedelic of the desert strip next to the coast, maybe some mountainous regions like Chachapoyas.
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Simon Gengerham - Tue, 21 May 2019 17:46:41 EST ID:xWpzQL/t No.895509 Ignore Report Reply
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>>895508
I thought authentic chacrunas also included not datura but the equivalent south american plant, was it devil's trumpet? Anyway, it was supposed to be something used at the discretion of the curanderro and was only for serious problems in their view of medicine. IIRC They also use San Pedro cactus powder in the mix rather than peyote which I get it, both have mescine, but I wouldn't call the San Pedro cactus experience a pure mescaline experience, either.

When I did it I did it inauthentically but god did it work. Syrian Rue + Mimosa hostilis root bark. I didn't do it simultaneously with powderized Pedro but would like to some day.


Microdosing Mushrooms Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Wesley Shittingridge - Thu, 02 May 2019 03:56:52 EST ID:JnSn41Vn No.895161
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Hey friends. I haven't taken any psychedelics in just over three years and I am now very interested in microdosing. Over the course my late teens and early twenties I'd taken mushrooms (including a couple heroic doses) around a dozen times, LSD twice and DMT 4 times.

The thing is I live in the Netherlands now and mushrooms are legal where LSD is not. Everyone seems to talk about LSD microdosing (for obvious reasons) but less about mushrooms. Frankly because I am also much more experienced with mushrooms they appeal a bit more as well. I am mostly interested in microdosing to facilitate a clear and curious mind which will help me to write my dissertation for my Phd.

Have any of you done microdosing of both LSD and psilocybin? How would you assess the difference in effects between the two? Is it really a bad idea to try it with mushrooms?

As for the matter of getting the dose right, it occurred to me to either pulverize the whole 20g (Dutch mushrooms are much weaker) in the pack, mix thoroughly and take small bits of powder orally (measured on a scale), or to make a tea using a small amount of water and dosing by the ml. But I have no idea how long shroom tea will keep or if the solution would even be uniform. So I am looking for insight into how to dose and what it is like microdosing on psilocybin.

Honestly I would do LSD instead if someone told me it was far superior for microdosing and/or if I could find some, but in all probability I will go for the legal, accessible option.
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Charlotte Clunderline - Mon, 20 May 2019 06:38:21 EST ID:MU5DQUTc No.895491 Ignore Report Reply
>>895489
trying to read dutch is fun
>microdosing is a retarded idea from cankerous Americans. Do it not.
>Cow, ??? truth/versitility (difference between?) truffles and (shrooms?) not?
>I have 20 grams (shrooms) nommed on and I went full canker. 8 hour long of complete canker
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Martha Bunman - Mon, 20 May 2019 14:40:27 EST ID:3IA/gwe0 No.895493 Ignore Report Reply
>>895491
Don’t act like the dutch don’t eat that shit like it’s candy. Same with uk and mandy
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George Gisslemutch - Tue, 21 May 2019 02:52:49 EST ID:Z0vYOR4D No.895500 Ignore Report Reply
>>895489
>can read a little Dutch from learning German for years and can even tell this is just angry nonsense ramblings


BWT/Trippin' Videos Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Bob The Hog - Mon, 20 May 2019 01:54:24 EST ID:iTrqoIT6 No.895490
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Having myself a relaxing mushroom trip watching this and wanted to share. That and we need ourselves a video thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WNwXm_OxOo

BWT
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James Tootham - Tue, 21 May 2019 01:06:21 EST ID:3IA/gwe0 No.895497 Ignore Report Reply
>>895490
BWT

https://youtu.be/tAA_yWX8ycQ


LSD and SSRIs Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Phoebe Chiffingsotch - Sat, 18 May 2019 14:43:57 EST ID:+IjnEx5g No.895469
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Recently my brother gave me half a tab of LSD. However, I'm taking 100mgs of Zoloft. I heard that Zoloft diminishes the trip and I'm slightly concerned because I've waited awhile to try LSD (never tripped before). Should I refrain from taking Zoloft for a day prior to taking the tab? Also, would weed help increase the trip?
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Ian Fandlemane - Sat, 18 May 2019 15:05:00 EST ID:8miTfqG+ No.895470 Ignore Report Reply
>>895469
I wouldn't combine the effects of LSD with the effects of going off a SSRI that you've been taking for a while. There's likely much built up in your system that it would take a break of a week or more to begin to have an affect, and then you've got SSRI discontinuation syndrome to deal with.
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OP - Sun, 19 May 2019 20:16:33 EST ID:+IjnEx5g No.895488 Ignore Report Reply
Initial blast-off was terrifying, but weed mellowed it out. I've had time dilation all day has thrown me off. Time slows to a crawl. My sense perception is very disconnected and my identity is fragmenting. Not much in the way of visuals, though I feel like a robot steering a ship that is myself.

Faces are morphing, that's about it.


Tripping with others Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Frederick Wuddledock - Thu, 16 May 2019 13:03:11 EST ID:FpgdatoK No.895408
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I've already tripped ~15 times alone on LSD, mostly around 150 µg, most was 400µg at once, also have some experience with shrooms. But I've always done it alone, because that way I felt the most comfortable and almost always have had amazing experiences. This weekend a friend of mine invited me over to try to trip together, he says he has 250µg blotters. I trust this friend and we understand each other pretty well, even though we haven't really hung out that often. Since this is my first time doing psychedelics with someone else I'm a little bit anxious. I'm already a little bit of an anxious/nervous character in my day-to-day life as is, so I'm scared I'm going to psych myself out. Can you guys give me some advice on tripping with others? Just share experiences, what to expect and what to avoid. I know this could be a really great and magical experience to share and connect with others, I need something to calm me down. Never had a panic attack on psychs, so I'm probably just worrying to much.

TL;DR: Moderately experienced psychedelic user trying to trip for the first time with another person around, does anyone have any advice/tips/ideas?
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Matilda Billingworth - Sun, 19 May 2019 08:36:02 EST ID:sHIwu2S0 No.895483 Ignore Report Reply
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>>895408
Only advice anyone can give is the obvious. Presumably it's a friend? The most I've tripped with is three close friends and it was great, everyone was on the same wavelength. As long as it's someone to laugh with you'll have a blast.
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Shitting Wungerstot - Sun, 19 May 2019 12:19:43 EST ID:jl4B8s9v No.895485 Ignore Report Reply
>>895482
I'm so glad you had a good time OP, inspiring stuff. High five and SLAYER.
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Matilda Pimmerson - Sun, 19 May 2019 16:27:04 EST ID:9lPxS8bo No.895486 Ignore Report Reply
>>895485
In need of an actual shroom trip rn


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