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Visual snow by Rebecca Gubberdet - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 00:52:27 EST ID:Gvc4uY// No.882147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I noticed about a year ago after taking mushrooms that there was visual snow over what I see, especially obvious at nighttime. I don't remember if it was always like that or began as a side effect to taking the mushrooms.

It still persists to this day and I'm concerned it will stay like this forever. This image is a fairly accurate representation of what it looks like for me. Is this effect a normal consequence of seeing in low light conditions, or is it more likely HPPD? Why hasn't my vision returned to normal yet?
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Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 03:33:44 EST ID:zemaskId No.882148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882147
> Is this effect a normal consequence of seeing in low light conditions
> or HPPD?
A lil of both, although a "disorder" in the DSM can only be diagnosed if it's truly an impediment to your life, i.e. not being able to drive or read or shit. What you have is pretty standard as far as aftereffects go, as for why it's persited a year though I can't say. Although I think having residual visuals after a trip can sometimes lead to noticing all of the myriad ways our eyes mistake visual information on a day to day basis. So again, little bit of both.
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Jarvis Heppersadge - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 08:28:14 EST ID:y/gq+tI6 No.882151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882148

I gained the ability to see rainbow halos around white lights after having a psychotic break on LSA. That trip was over a year ago but I can see them to this day.
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Ian Billingfield - Sun, 15 Oct 2017 23:13:33 EST ID:4ZZXD2yC No.882237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882148
>Although I think having residual visuals after a trip can sometimes lead to noticing all of the myriad ways our eyes mistake visual information on a day to day basis.
Yeah I think so. Although I honestly don't remember how my vision was before the trip. It's not life threatening or impeding any tasks I need to do. But it is depressing. I feel like I fucked up my visual acuity, and for what? It would deter me from taking psychedelics if I knew this would persist. I've asked a few people if they see grain too, and they can't tell me. So I really don't know if this is a side-effect or I'm for the first time in my life noticing the limits to my visual acuity.
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Jack Hibbleridge - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 02:24:48 EST ID:4IlbOXXu No.882243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882147
you have cataracts jolly african-american
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Phyllis Fanham - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:49:27 EST ID:puFGdArN No.882259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882147
I actually had this as a kid, or at least I was more aware of it (though nothing like as pronounced as the pic in OP). I'm not sure if it's the years of mind altering drugs or if I just grew out of it, but it's totally gone away.
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Alice Chibblechot - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:10:42 EST ID:TzwKY8t4 No.882291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882147
I always saw visual noise as far as I can remember. What amazes me is some people notice it only after doing psychedelics. I have always seen it, and while it's more apparent in darkness, it's also present on any large surface of single color of any brightness. Also it has not ever grown stronger even though I've tripped more than a few times on various psychedelics.
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Walter Brungerfock - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:35:08 EST ID:KVvfbwtl No.882293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882291
This post comforts me
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Lydia Winkinwell - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 05:35:08 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882291
Same boat here. Although the day or two after large DXM doses I have noticed that static is a bit louder so to speak but nothing major. Everyone has that to some extent and its something you just noticed Op congrats. Another cool things you probably never noticed is hypnagogic hallucinations in the few moments preceding sleep.
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Clara Gemmerdere - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:51:04 EST ID:bMqSAO2r No.882331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882291
Same here
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David Fanfuck - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:32:13 EST ID:ICOuoax0 No.882334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i never paid attention to the way i visually experience reality before i tripped so its hard to say if the effects are because of tripping or not. probably not though.
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Cornelius Clunningneg - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 05:03:19 EST ID:qlywoRsF No.882379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've always had it pretty strongly. It must be crazy nice not to have it, but everyone I've met who acknowledges that they have visual snow have been pretty smart so who knows maybe it's a tradeoff
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Lillian Mebblefield - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 06:11:51 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.882380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You probably already had visual snow, and didn't notice it until you did shrooms.

Visual snow, floaters and night hallucinations are incredibly common among people, but most people don't even know what they're looking at so they don't realise it's part of the normal vision "errors".
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Barnaby Bardfoot - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 15:48:09 EST ID:9Yj9pV0U No.882386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Everybody sees visual snow to a small extent, especially in darkness.
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Phoebe Pogglewater - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 16:54:58 EST ID:k8qmmcTX No.882387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I never understood why people say, "You probably had it your whole life but never noticed it until now."

>"It was never in your vision, but trust me, it was in your vision. Even though it wasn't. It was."
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Lillian Blatherstone - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 17:23:30 EST ID:ICOuoax0 No.882388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882387
sorry to hear youre having a hard time understanding a simple concept :(
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George Blottingspear - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 18:03:23 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882387
Ok, this best analog that comes to mind is perfect silence or darkness. Also quick preface, before consuming hallucinogens you should read into the nature of natural hallucinations. Such as, prisoners cinema, hypnagogia, high altitude radiation interaction, ganzfield effect, and various forms of sensory deprivisionally induced hallucinatory states. Not to mention falsely perceived patterns from schizoaffective disorders, now to shaman it up for you.
In perfect silence or darkness you notice nuanced effects of your concious state that are otherwise previously imperceptible. That is to say in true silence you begin to hear your heartbeat, bowels, blood pumping, and much more, hell maybe even the proposed high pitch sound individual cells supposedly make. People have said it is truly maddening, but the reason for this is because your brain is seeking input and stimulus, without it your body doesn't know if you're awake or asleep alive or dead. In short it fucks with your conciousness, and same thing for absolute darkness. Now on to conjecture land. Psychedelics make us aware of this process of information integration it would seem to me. I've experienced moments of darkness in brightly lit rooms and seen living rooms stretch further than the god damn gobi dessert just with substance playing tricks on me. That is to say if you are seeing what isn't there then likely its your brain unfiltering stimulus or making it up and jamming it through your regular concious filter. To do so it has to draw from the bits of info that ARE there or introduce ones that aren't. Either way individual photons are what are absorbed and bounced around to produced the biologically perceived effect of sight. So whether or not you think there was "snow" as we call it there is and they are called photons and bits of biologically percieved information. So where does that leave you? Apparently more aware of your daily data stream than you were before. Is that bad? Not unless it keeps you from living a normal life. Personally I have always seen it so don't worry, but do discontinue use if it worsens or persists, and if you must seek mystical states save up for a sensory dep tank. I have always wanted one but for
A: substance works fine for me AAAND
B: drugs plus water DO NOT MIX AND NEVER SHOULD
Thats just me though, and I hope my 2 cents is of value to you.
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Phoebe Pogglewater - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 18:20:33 EST ID:k8qmmcTX No.882390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882388

It's an incredibly simple concept which is why I don't understand how you people are always so wrong about it.

How is it there, in front of our eyes our entire lives but we, "just didn't notice?"

That doesn't make any sense.

Psychedelics obviously cause intense sober visual distortions and hallucinations from prolonged use.

Or are you saying people have "small amounts" of visual snow their entire lives, so little that it practically doesn't even exist? And then we suddenly notice it hardcore after tripping, even though it literally stays the same amount of visual snow?

Everybody makes it out to sound as if psychedelics aren't the direct cause of people having intense visual fuck ups after tripping a fuck ton.

Hppd is very real and it comss from ingesting hallucinogens.
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Phoebe Pogglewater - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 18:24:02 EST ID:k8qmmcTX No.882391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882389

Sentence and paragraph structure, friend.

The psychedelics are not increasing your sober awareness, causing you to percieve things that were always there, but not easily noticeable, the psychedlics are FUCKING with your vision. They are fucking with the way your brain filters information.

The external material cause of visual distortions (LIGHT) obviously existed prior to a person's hppd, but the hppd did not exist.
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Emma Clottingson - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:32:04 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882390
>>882391
Never asserted that it wasn't real and that if you have it you should be open and honest with the limitations it imposes , and c'mon man semantics, really? Did everyone switch to mla format and I not get the memmo?
I appalogize for my grammatically incorrect format prior to this moment. All of that aside, if you have impaired low light vision don't do dangerous low light activities. It's as simple as if you have it you have and if you don't you don't. If you binge on anything or are particularly sensitive to it then you should expect negative side effects. Even if it is something that is relatively harmless. So any idiot would/should stop immediately and be realistic with their situation and act accordingly.
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Graham Bullylock - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 01:06:56 EST ID:WFOS2Lr1 No.882397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tbh "visual snow" IMO has just been a phenomena where you notice properties of your vision that werent there before, particularly after taking psychedelics for the first few times, those are the sort of things youd be looking for, vision certainly isnt flawless, its mostly illusory, for example depth perception, and thus prone to "graphical bugs" so to speak
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Henry Durryfane - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 03:34:16 EST ID:ICOuoax0 No.882398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882390
>have visual snow all your life
>never pay attention because you have no other kind of experience to compare your sober reality to
>take psychedelic drUg
>oh hey wow my visuals can be altered this much, i wonder what other ways there are to see
>pay more attention to your visual experience
>oh hey theres a little snowy stuff goin on

cant believe I had to meme it out for you like this
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Cyril Handlehedging - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 04:07:20 EST ID:puFGdArN No.882399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882398
>meme it out

Yellowtext =/= meme
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Graham Bullylock - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 04:12:18 EST ID:WFOS2Lr1 No.882400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882397
Sorry, i meant was always there. Not werent there before
Pretty scattered nb
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Jenny Bluzzleman - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 09:39:59 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.882406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's very easy to understand why most people don't notice the natural disturbances and normal hallucinations common in the human visual organs.

Because to most people, the only time they take the time to look at what they see... is when they take hallucinogenic/psychedelic drugs.

Holy fucking shit niggers. Did you wankers even pay attention in biology class when they explained how your eyes and your brain create images?
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Emma Clottingson - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:41:05 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882406
I keep telling mother fuckers that but it doesn't sink in. This is just what happens when a bunch of club drug munching cock gobblers get together and start comparing their small penises. On the other hand hppd is real and if anyone notices it in themselves then its up to them to behave accordingly.
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Jenny Bluzzleman - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 15:53:31 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.882416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>882408
Here's an photoshop that one of the Ancients made a long time ago here on /psy/, it's a pretty accurate example of what HPPD is.
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Dr. Katz - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 18:54:27 EST ID:ljoXF9ov No.882418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882416
Accurate for sure. Everyone has subjective differences, but HPPD was a bitch for me about 6 years back.
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Henry Bardspear - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:00:18 EST ID:eN0wRqbP No.882434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882418
Was it that severe constantly and did you get rid of it?
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Rebecca Seffingbanks - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 12:52:54 EST ID:Iyfrbm6f No.882436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882434
You can never really get rid of it, either you integrate the lessons from your trip and get used to it or you end up in the looney bin. (Or in my case go to the looney bin THEN integrate the lessons from your trip and get used to it) Or start doing drugs that reduce your awareness like alcohol or opiates, although thats not really a good longterm plan.
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Nicholas Duvinghitch - Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:14:38 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.882437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882434
You get rid of it by quiting drugs for years/forever.
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Henry Hengergold - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 05:24:51 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882437
Pretty much just this folks. That really is the punishment for abusing something that supposed to be harmless.
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Caroline Turveyson - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:32:21 EST ID:SY8uFri/ No.882441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882439

yep. and people still continue to argue that its totally safe. ill never forget the morning i woke up and was like "am i still tripping?". im just glad mine isnt as bad as that picture not as prominent well at least these days.
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Thomas Fuckingworth - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 11:08:57 EST ID:Ygx9xUJC No.882444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882441
Well given enough time though you do have to appreciate the natural deterioration of out bodies. So, up to a point, you will reach baseline again but age might mimic the low llight sight deficiency so if one cannot differentiate its best to avoid it. Still though, my original point that in darkness(only darkness) if things look statickey thats got more to do with the human eye. Now if you see static all the fuckin time, then you're in trouble.
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Martin Dartwell - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 14:41:30 EST ID:eN0wRqbP No.882446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882441
So did just one trip trigger it? Was it a heroic dose, combination of drugs, after a binge?
I wonder if semifrequent microdosing (1-3 times a month) increases the chances of that happening, as the trips aren't visual?

Tbh the thought of getting proper HPPD scares me a lot. But I can't stop taking acid either because I like to use it to make special occasions (amusement part, festivals etc) even better, and I'd like to be able to reboot my system with a more hefty mushroom/acid system every now and then when I feel like I might be in need of that. Same goes for weed. Smoke very infrequently, can live with out it, but it's still a nice thing to do every now and then - I get visuals from it, so it probably excarbates the issue as well.

Currently I've got some floaters in my eyes. They appear for maybe 20 seconds to a minute at a time, usually when staring at the sky or computer monitor. Maybe a few times a week occurence, seems like it happens more often after taking a micro/minidose of acid
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Jack Worthingstone - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:15:22 EST ID:mCjoEwAY No.882450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>882380
THIS X1000000000000000000000. I'm not saying drug use can't trigger it or cause it but I think this is often the case.

I noticed it after I started reading about it. Smoked a lot of weed, done a little bit of dis but I started reading about this stuff after taking acid once. One time... I'm kinda doubtful one acid trip permanently fucked up my vision and if it did what are you gonna do? I've talked to an eye doctor about it, they aren't entirely sure why it happens and he never brought up drug use. It's a thing that happens to all sorts of people regardless of psychedelic drug use.

It used to bug the living fuck outta me. I gotta buddy who got REALLY pissed off about visual problems and stopped smoking weed. H still has it and has only taken shrooms 2 or 3 times and when he did smoke he was never heavy into it.
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Martha Sindlehet - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 20:59:29 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882450
I have stated the same thing in this thread a million fuckin times, but a bunch of people refuse to accept there are things in life they have never noticed. The reality is that some reports state that people exposed to near perfect darkness, prolonged lack of sensory input otherwise, or certain types if mediation have all observed it. Some folks just refuse to admit they didn't have leopard level night vision or a simple lack if awareness before tripping. Although yes, hppd is real, and yes, if you have it or think you do behave accordingly. Otherwise I just wish to encourage people to keep an open mind while exploring the ineffable and unknown.
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Sidney Sagglewell - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:10:59 EST ID:nC12BE9h No.882460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hppd is an effect of tripping. The visual disturbances are not "always there." You don't just happen to notice them after tripping becoz, "Lol let me look harder at thing." They happen after tripping because the drugs fuck with your brain chemistry, causing visual hallucinations. The visual hallucinations are a direct result of the drug use.

It's not "suddenly paying more attention to your vision."

Some people in this thread are claiming that there are these visual disturbances for the entirety of your life, and that you just suddenly become aware of them for whatever reason, be it tripping, or focusing intently. Well whatever visual disturbances you guys have experienced must be not even the slightest bit as intense as what I've gone through where the counter top is bursting with fractals, the lines on the floor have rainbow hues swirling across them, lights dance and flash across my peripheral vision like shooting stars, and walking through a doorway the threshold follows me for half a second and then a rainbow colored web of veins flashes across my vision. That's most of the most intense effects of it. Rooms breathing, lights constantly flicker when other people say they aren't.
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Sidney Sagglewell - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:32:42 EST ID:nC12BE9h No.882461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882460

I guess I'm confusing visual snow and hppd. Visual snow is a normal thing, but hppd isn't.
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Thomas Blammerlet - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:06:55 EST ID:NYV8alOs No.882484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882441
This. I'm very annoyed that people who support the use of psychedelic substances are not more vocal about the (not rare) potential of developing HPPD or other long-term consequences. I want to see this stressed on the primary page on a website explaining about the substance and inviting you to do it. It's not nothing. And to see the scrabbling attempts at trying to wipe it away like it's a minor consequence or not a problem, really annoys me. Will drug advocates online take more responsibility for the pain and suffering they cause. I feel like I was duped.

That said, I'd like to move this onto serious suggestions as to how to judge whether people have visual snow before and after a psychedelic experience.
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Polly Cruzzlecocke - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:39:41 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.882493 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882441
Maybe because psychedelics ARE fucking harmless?

YOU are THE FUCKING RETARD that caused your HPPD with irresponsible behavior. YOU did that. Blaming it on people not telling you that eating acid all day for half a year is a bad idea is shifting the responsibility.

YOU abused the drugs. YOU did that. It's all YOUR fault. Accept it, and move on.
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Hugh Hinnerchadge - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:28:25 EST ID:IUfz5v9T No.882499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882493

It's alright, dude. Not everybody who gets hppd is a junkie drug abuser. I'm pretty sure I've heard people on here talk about getting it from only a few trips. Different strokes, fam.

>psychedelics are ... harmless

Yeah, that's just outright irresponsible to say. Your butt-frustration coupled with bad advice is way bad vibes. Chill out. dude. Nobody in their right mind would flat out say psychedelics are completely harmless. And you're not in your right mind because you were totally obviously super angry and not thinking straight.
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Martha Bardfuck - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:18:38 EST ID:b6Tol/o1 No.882515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have friends who've said they got the snow after tripping.
Strange thing is I've had it my whole life and other people didn't know what I was talking about when I was little lol
It may be because I'm probably on the low side of the autism spectrum. Or idk what it is
But yes I've definitely heard it can be obtained from tripping.
It's just high neural activity
An autistic brain is connected in strange ways which is what psychedelics do to you.
So it makes sense
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Sophie Dartham - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:39:19 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.882590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882499
>I'm pretty sure I've heard people on here talk about getting it from only a few trips.

I'm pretty sure that's bullshit and/or people that already abuse other drugs doing psychedelics a few times.

There's no scientific indication that taking shrooms or LSD once or twice puts you at risk of HPPD. No one has any clue of what kind of mechanic would be behind that.

If someone sees some freaky shit from doing shrooms twice, they probably don't have HPPD. They're just genetically predisposed to being schizophrenic.
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Polly Settinghood - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 23:14:59 EST ID:9vZVvrgN No.882593 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882590
>if you get HPPD from 1 or 2 trips its not really HPPD because that would make me wrong
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Edward Blackshaw - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 05:24:10 EST ID:WFOS2Lr1 No.882599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're all fucking hypochondriacs
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Sophie Dartham - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 05:43:59 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.882600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882593
Psychedelic science is fucking far in terms of safety and harm reduction, and if MAPS has MOTHERFUCKING NOTHING on the causes of HPPD from just a few trips, you probably can only get HPPD from a few trips due to polydrug abuse or mental illnesses, how FUCKING hard is it for you to read english?
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James Honeybury - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 09:54:44 EST ID:/OvDNlrI No.882606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882515
>It's just high neural activity
Can you give me a source for this. It would put my mind at ease if I find out my eyes aren't fucked
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Shitting Sebberteg - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 14:21:18 EST ID:g3tA7vq3 No.882609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882606
It wouldn't be your eyes that are fucked it would be your brain.
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Edward Blackshaw - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 16:04:08 EST ID:WFOS2Lr1 No.882613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882609
It wouldnt even mean that, i think anyway, heres a video explaining how LSD causes the hallucinations that it does, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kvalFfavNpU, I'd say it makes more neurons interconnected and "visual snow" is a natural side effect of that, i have visual snow and ive never thought anything of it, i kind of enjoy it, when im high i see it as a reminder that perception is illusory and systematic.
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Walter Hivingfoot - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 20:03:50 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882613
Its not really at all understood. Not just psychedelics but our sense in general. For fucks sake what we/you perceive as reality is just the human biological interpretation of generally perceptible physically interpreted input during nominal operational conditions.
Everything is your brain and as far as senses go the only one you posses(hopefully) that has its own specific brainy bit is your sense of smell.
Personally visual snow has been ever present in my life, since childhood really. I always thought it was my imagination but now I know that its really just my brain filling in the gaps present when it lacks the ability to gather image related sensory data(i.e. low light conditions). It is what it is man.
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John Dugglehood - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 00:26:53 EST ID:rfFD3NBa No.882624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882390
>>882391
>How is it there, in front of our eyes our entire lives but we, "just didn't notice?"
>They are fucking with the way your brain filters information.
ayy lmao
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Matilda Greenfield - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 06:43:59 EST ID:l8uvEw8d No.882632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882624
That yellow text literally means the disturbances are a direct result of the drugs, not something that was happening your entire life.
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Matilda Greenfield - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 06:50:22 EST ID:l8uvEw8d No.882633 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882624

>Hey guys I took psychedelic several times and suddenly there are random flashes of light streak across my vision, shadows dance in my peripheral, textured surfaces burst into spiraling fractals even when sober.

>Oh pffft you had that your whole life you just didn't notice it.

Yeah, lmao that's how it works guys. Alrighty
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Caroline Cenderline - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 06:51:28 EST ID:WFOS2Lr1 No.882634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882632
This guy >>882619 literally explains "visual snow" perfectly.. stop blaming the drugs and learn how the damn brain works.. literally, everyone who seems to be worried about hppd seems to not have a clue and are desperate to be told how their mind works.. its just hypochondria, only scared teenagers complain about hppd
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Caroline Cenderline - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 06:53:24 EST ID:WFOS2Lr1 No.882635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882633
>>882632
>when babby learns that the imagination is vivid
Get a grip you 4chin faggots
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Barnaby Sendlehall - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 11:23:20 EST ID:I+TOzfDw No.882639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882635
Why are you being so aggressive when we're talking about health? It's the wrong attitude to be sharp with people who are rightly concerned with the perceived degradation of their visual acuity. Just talk calmly if you have the right answers. Imagine an optician responding this way.
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Caroline Cenderline - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 12:27:12 EST ID:WFOS2Lr1 No.882641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882639
Because this is fucking /psy/ and you people arent fucking neurologists.
Also im fucking australian.
Fuck.
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Lydia Drundledine - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 20:29:56 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882641
Nothing ever fully justifies bing a cunt, and generally speaking anyone with half a brain knows that helps nothing. People are people are people friendo it doesn't matter what their supposed occupations or titles are/aren't on an ANONYMOUS board. The burden of proof is on the individual here so don't be a lazy idiot, and look into the concepts that the opposition claims. If they hold water and you're sure your thinking is sound as well then thats how we learn and strengthen eachother as a community god dammit.
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Lydia Drundledine - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 20:37:36 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882653
Meant to illustrate that if both parties thinking is sound then the truth of the situation likely lies somewhere in between two of you.
My keyboard situation is kinda fucked and that was supposed to be in there near the end :/
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Sophie Drebblenatch - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 21:27:19 EST ID:1wZUllIJ No.882656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882641
I see people make the same dumb argument on the other chan. The idea that I'm not to expect a thoughtful response because "what do you expect". The culture is shaped by the users. And you're one of them, so be the change you want to see. You are deciding that you're not going to give me a good answer because of the established culture but that doesn't mean you're bound to give me a bad answer.

You're Australian? Who gives a fuck. I sure don't. How is that info relevant? Are you dissing yourself?
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Lydia Drundledine - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 21:41:35 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882656
I'm not the Australian and that is damn near the exact same thing I was pointing out to him.
For the record I always supply answers to the best of my ability with the available information. Said information happens to be pretty much all information ever learned ever when people willing to search for credible sources act accordingly. The simple point was look up whats been said to you then determine whether or not you wish to continue flinging verbal shit. If you have something legitimate to contribute then contribute away and discuss the source materials in an intelligent way.
Having to explain the process of discussion itself really cheapens the experience.
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Sidney Menderman - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 22:37:04 EST ID:WFOS2Lr1 No.882658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honestly i became aggressive because this board is filled with nothing but sarcasm and toxicity, and im generally a nice poster. But whatever. i take it back.

Nb sorry /psy/ continue ur discussion
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Archie Nackleshit - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 08:02:27 EST ID:LWIWT8tF No.882674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dude holy shit people in this thread are retarded niggers.

Being sober and seeing giant rainbow fractals burst across your vision is not a "vivid imagination," you dumb kikes. Holy fuck.

You guys are idiots.
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Wesley Hirringshit - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 18:38:03 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.882693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882674
Giant rainbow fractals aren't visual noise or visual snow.

Visual snow is just a normal hallucination incredibly common in normal sober people.
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Lydia Drundledine - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 18:53:17 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882674
If you're seeing that kind of shit then hppd is the least of your concerns. That sounds more like a psychotic break in progress. Obvious hppd is obvious, the originally asked question was about visual snow/static vs hppd. Honestly I am past explain how our eyes interact with photons. You can keep your closed minded bigotry to yourself too, go back to 4chin.
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Graham Blindersedge - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 22:29:03 EST ID:51fmQfZj No.882699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882694
You're prepared to diagnose someone as suffering from psychosis from seeing rainbow fractals after a psychedelic experience and not HPPD? I'm starting to believe some drug enthusiasts are prepared to do anything to defend their right to trip. You shameless bastard. You wouldn't dare say these things to another person in real life. This is serious stuff we're talking about here, so happily contain yourself to one of the many other threads or make one yourself.
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Isabella Chenderwat - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 23:03:39 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.882700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882699
The thread already contains a pretty good visual representation of HPPD.

HPPD isn't like some Hollywoodian "acid flashback" you hear in urban legends. It's just like someone activated some photoshop filters in your eyeballs. Compared to actual hallucinogenic vision, HPPD is a load of weak goat piss. HPPD isn't some WOW IN YOUR FACE free trip.
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Sidney Bollygold - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 05:39:32 EST ID:ySGwvSwU No.882704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>882699
There is simple criteria for diagnosing hppd. No i wouldn't tell someone who's having a psychotic break that, it is literally exactly what you AREN'T supposed to do. I would tell someone who's half lucid "GO TO THE DOCTOR YOU FUCKING IDIOT!" as I have on here several times before. So yes if its even a LITTLE serious consult a health care profession you raging retarded fucking faggot. I do talk to people like this in "real life", or in person as I put it since I'm not a nine year old. I get away with it because I use facts, logic, and my large size if all else fails.


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