/psy/ Psychedelic Discussion
I'm thinking of trying Salvia as my first psychedelic. Can I smoke it in a small metal Pipe? Could I get a big enough hit with that also If you I ask I will send a pic of the pipe. I also have a pretty good lighter for this should I keep the flame on the dried leaves while breathing in?Excited to hear some thoughtsBtw I don't have a bong and I really don't want to to buy one so if the pipe isn't a big enough hit any other ideas?
ur gonna be annihilated, those are my thoughts
It's not psychedelic.Unless you wanna get slammed into oblivion and get raped for a trillion years in the core of the sun, don't do salvia.
i support your potentially permanent mind-fracturing op. just use a bong and a torch lighter, the chemicals require it.
>>893297May i ask why you don't want to acquire a bong? This kind of thinking bamboozles me.
>>893323It's just not really something I need... I could buy one but why should I if I can just use a pipe or maybe I do a Gravity Bong
>>893325just ghetto rig a bong or gravity bong out of some plastic bottles and shitjust use something safe for the bowl partif you can build a BIG gravity bong do that it will make the salvia hit much betterwith a little metal pipe it is really really hard to force yourself to smoke enough before it kicks in to really "get there"also heat it with a torch style lighter instead of a regular pussy flame lighter like a bicthe torch will get hot enough to vape all the goodness
>>893297ok all these posters saying how salvias gonna fuck you up...i mean it CAN if you take like 3 fat rips of 80x but...20x in a pipe? thatl work just make sure u HOLD IT IN for 20 seconds and take 3 hits or so. if its 40x then 2 hits. 80x one hitbongs make it easeir but salvia is very easy on the lungs/throat to smoke20x in a pipe allows me to "hear the elves" and sometimes ill trip out but its not THAT crazy 20x in a bong can get me places especially if im already on a psych or dissomy first time was 80x in a dry bong and it felt like someone else jumped into my skin and i saw willy wonka flying on a roller coaster through the trees waving his hat at me laughing. my friend did the same amount and got a bunch of creepy jolly african-americans with spears and bows crawling at him sooo...i guess it depends lolone time on 3 meo pcp and a tab of L i did a bong rip of 20x and th words from the song "artifacts" by the underachievers flew up in a spiral around the room and attacked me, causing me to slide down the couch and knock my bong over which got my foot wet and ruined the trip cause i was worrying about my peice and wtf the wierd smelling liquid on my foot was (bong water, btw bong was fine it was on carpet) came down 10 min later and was like daaaamnnn this other time i did 40x on 3 ho pcp and mushrooms and i layed on my bed and spiralled down and fell through the floor and met a salvia goddess and then i had an epiphany and crawled to my phone to message my friend saying "i dont understand. i remember saying i do to you but man i really dont" and "ride the rainbow to the end of the fire" "ride the fire" that typa shit, i said i dont undrstand cause earlier that day i gave him a fat hit of 40x and 3 ho pcp and he said just sat there eyes closed and came back super confused and said he lived a whole life and had a family with some alien chick and i said "yeah man i understand" lolalso its a dissociative not psych. and its a very confusing drug so its best to take on something else to take the edge off. also idk if its just me but when i come down i always crave a beer and nitrous or even cigs idk why.its fun tho, tollerance isnt a thing with this so you can just keep hitting it all day IF you want, midle of a trip, you know. but in proper doses salvia and DMT are VERY simular imo
>>893325Bong would work better. Gravity bong is not a bong since it doesn't function as such.
>>893297Looking for some quick advice guys. Roommate tried smoke a ton of salvia. At first, he was chilling and really happy. Now he's trying to fight the toilet and my chair. We vacated the room, he's in bed, and he's just fucking pissed at everything and slamming his fist at the wall. RA is next door. What do.
>>893355Send a pic
>>893341Dude, I've only smoked 20x and have had total obliteration of the self trips, numerous times.>>893355Told you about that salvia my nigga.
>>893359>>893356Is it normal for people to go into a fit of rage after too much salvia? It took him around an hour to knock out. He's fine rn. He had around 2.5 servings of 10x.
>>893359>I've only smoked 20x and have had total obliteration of the self tripsTHIS10x is nothing to fuck around with
>I've only smoked 20x and have had total obliteration of the self trips
>>893365Salvia does weird things to people. It's over in under 5 minutes, but the mindset can linger for days.After my first salvia trip, I had intense existential fears of reality just spontaneously collapsing back into the salvia void for a few days, and those fears stayed in the back of my head until I did shrooms for the first time a few months later.
>>893297okay i haven't read the thread much but i know some biochemistry and have a shiny useless piece of paper to prove it. salvia is a serious fucking hallucinogen but it shares literally n o t h i n g in common with lsd/shrooms/dmt/mescaline/whatever the fuck traditional psychedelic hallucinogen, other than the fact it makes you hallucinate. go ahead and try it, i havent done it myself but i'm definitely planning on it, just don't consider it your first traditional psychedelic. consider it your first, and likely only (least 'till another one is developed and available on the market in likely 20/30+ years because the structure of it is complex as fuck), kappa-opioid receptor agonist that makes you hallucinate. shit is A FUCKING KAPPA OPIOID AGONIST. it is simultaneously the coolest shit ever from a scientific standpoint and the lamest shit ever from a lot of reports (although you definitely fucking see shit).but try a SEROTONERGIC psychedelic, because salvia, shit isn't the same. not subjectively, not objectively. try both, why the hell not, but do not compare your experiences on the two because according to all of the scientific literature i have read they are not comparable. and the non-scientific, subjective literature, which although I have a bias against it's mostly what you'll find here, but I think this is one of the rare cases where they align.
>>893341Thanks for the response! I don't know about extracts but the guy I'm getting it from is selling the dried leaves for about 10€ per 5g is that a good price also are the dried leaves strong enough to get a effect trip?
Comment>>893297>>893297haha this nigga right here
>>893297also, if ur dead srs, just try some 20x extract, a tiny pinch is enough and it vaporizes pretty easily even with a shitty bic lighterjust keep torching it for a few secs and inhale and hooooooooold until you cant, and enjoy being rapedalso, dont you dare bitch about it on here afterwards
>>893376thats a good deal if its atleast 5-10x but if its regular dried leaves from the plant without any extra kick then you probably arnt going to get much out of it. If thats the case though i would use it to spliff joints :)
>>893376dried leaves are enough to trip pretty mad balls, but not for a breakthrough in 99% of cases.
>>893297Salvia is kind of an odd first choice. It's quite commonly dysphoric for many people, and is probably one of the least forgiving of the available hallucinogenic substances available.
whatever u do OP, just be sure to have a trip sitterstay safe bro
>>893297I smoked it out of a fuckin copper pipe, salvia is salvia; it fucked me up for 5 minutes that felt like 15.
>>893413Salvia is intense. I was an opiate junkie and also a fan of shrooms, tabs, and DMT, so I gave it a try. I made my own extract from cheap plant material I ordered online. I smoked like 5 fat tokes. I thought I was at the circus. I was in a huge red tent and elephants were walking around me. It then wore off, I was actually just starting down the kitchen sink. I thought I was actually at a circus.I tried more, then I thought I was getting runover by one of those big pavers that smooth fresh roads...My skin, then, turned inside out once more and then I realized I was still standing in my kitchen...NB, it gets too intense and I was happy to find myself in my own kitchen.
>>893406Probably will go in the woods we have a little hut there it's a very nice environment But I may wait before doing it and try some other psychedelics I heard about dxm but not sure where to get it and if it's even used in cough syrup btw I'm in Austria maybe some other drugs I could try? Did try to take a dose of amanita muscaria but it never had an effect now I have to wait till next year... Will also be looking for some Psylocybin mushrooms
Fuck salvia never had a good time on salvia
>>893297i had a really scary trip where salvia felt like some demon taking over my mindlike i just inhaled a virus or something, and it took all my thoughts and criticized them,basically rejecting any self soothing thoughts i had trying to keep control, but not actually showing me anything that interesting like on other psychs where if you let go it's blessed, it was just basically saying fuck you to my ego just for smoking italso, i was listening to an omenxiii song while smoking it and his voice started seeming like he's literally devil incarnate or whatever the fuck, and it sounded like he was saying 666 666 666 over and over again (in the song he's actually saying 'cuz im sick sick sick sick')it was scary stuff, it showed me one good thing though, that your experience of normal conscious awareness is a lot more fickle than it seems
>>893372yeah fuck the shit from the trip can really stick with your for a while, and not in a good way, more like a dull feeling of anxiety you can't really pinpoint but you know is there cuz of the salvia
Would it be possible to smoke the Salvia as a joint without any weed? Would I just feel like shit or could it be enjoyable?
>>893374listen to this guy here
Salvia sucks and it fucks you upFirst-time psychedelic should be Mushrooms period
>>893459Yeah I mean maybe I could get a grow kit legally but are they worth it?
>>893463no, usually overpricedhttp://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftekjust go to home depot to grab some supplies, order a spore syringe online and youre good to go
>>893297chew fresh(or rehydrated dried) salvia leaves and absorb it sublingually/buccal. when you burn the leaf it creates a different chemical. they're two different drugs, chewing is said to be much more pleasant.
>>893459I think acid is fine for a first time too
>>893512Hey would 1P-LSD work for a first psycedelic?
>>893532sure, you should be able to handle a 100mic tab just fine. just keep in mind to reserve at least a whole day for the trip. you might even try 150mics if youre mentally stable and have a trip sitter.
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