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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated April 10)
Salvia Ignore Report Reply
Eugene Nerringwill - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:33:08 EST ID:zI2e3q2u No.893297
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I'm thinking of trying Salvia as my first psychedelic. Can I smoke it in a small metal Pipe? Could I get a big enough hit with that also If you I ask I will send a pic of the pipe. I also have a pretty good lighter for this should I keep the flame on the dried leaves while breathing in?
Excited to hear some thoughts
Btw I don't have a bong and I really don't want to to buy one so if the pipe isn't a big enough hit any other ideas?
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Hedda Bunhall - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 20:43:02 EST ID:/6Uov/+8 No.893307 Ignore Report Reply
ur gonna be annihilated, those are my thoughts
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Archie Greencocke - Mon, 12 Nov 2018 22:30:08 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.893309 Ignore Report Reply
It's not psychedelic.

Unless you wanna get slammed into oblivion and get raped for a trillion years in the core of the sun, don't do salvia.
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Isabella Brocklewater - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 05:15:28 EST ID:U0Rjc4ND No.893318 Ignore Report Reply
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i support your potentially permanent mind-fracturing op. just use a bong and a torch lighter, the chemicals require it.
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' God !!Bwteoy2D - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 07:05:01 EST ID:sujMwfRB No.893323 Ignore Report Reply
>>893297
May i ask why you don't want to acquire a bong? This kind of thinking bamboozles me.
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Nell Meddleneck - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 09:24:34 EST ID:vfJEkW0L No.893325 Ignore Report Reply
>>893323
It's just not really something I need... I could buy one but why should I if I can just use a pipe or maybe I do a Gravity Bong
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Sophie Shakeshaw - Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:38:46 EST ID:6uXIM/c9 No.893330 Ignore Report Reply
>>893325

just ghetto rig a bong or gravity bong out of some plastic bottles and shit

just use something safe for the bowl part

if you can build a BIG gravity bong do that it will make the salvia hit much better

with a little metal pipe it is really really hard to force yourself to smoke enough before it kicks in to really "get there"

also heat it with a torch style lighter instead of a regular pussy flame lighter like a bic

the torch will get hot enough to vape all the goodness
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chocobo - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 05:04:10 EST ID:uxTeVAIf No.893341 Ignore Report Reply
>>893297
ok all these posters saying how salvias gonna fuck you up...i mean it CAN if you take like 3 fat rips of 80x but...20x in a pipe? thatl work just make sure u HOLD IT IN for 20 seconds and take 3 hits or so. if its 40x then 2 hits. 80x one hit
bongs make it easeir but salvia is very easy on the lungs/throat to smoke

20x in a pipe allows me to "hear the elves" and sometimes ill trip out but its not THAT crazy 20x in a bong can get me places especially if im already on a psych or disso

my first time was 80x in a dry bong and it felt like someone else jumped into my skin and i saw willy wonka flying on a roller coaster through the trees waving his hat at me laughing. my friend did the same amount and got a bunch of creepy jolly african-americans with spears and bows crawling at him sooo...i guess it depends lol

one time on 3 meo pcp and a tab of L i did a bong rip of 20x and th words from the song "artifacts" by the underachievers flew up in a spiral around the room and attacked me, causing me to slide down the couch and knock my bong over which got my foot wet and ruined the trip cause i was worrying about my peice and wtf the wierd smelling liquid on my foot was (bong water, btw bong was fine it was on carpet) came down 10 min later and was like daaaamnnn

this other time i did 40x on 3 ho pcp and mushrooms and i layed on my bed and spiralled down and fell through the floor and met a salvia goddess and then i had an epiphany and crawled to my phone to message my friend saying "i dont understand. i remember saying i do to you but man i really dont" and "ride the rainbow to the end of the fire" "ride the fire" that typa shit, i said i dont undrstand cause earlier that day i gave him a fat hit of 40x and 3 ho pcp and he said just sat there eyes closed and came back super confused and said he lived a whole life and had a family with some alien chick and i said "yeah man i understand" lol

also its a dissociative not psych. and its a very confusing drug so its best to take on something else to take the edge off. also idk if its just me but when i come down i always crave a beer and nitrous or even cigs idk why.

its fun tho, tollerance isnt a thing with this so you can just keep hitting it all day IF you want, midle of a trip, you know. but in proper doses salvia and DMT are VERY simular imo
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' God !!Bwteoy2D - Wed, 14 Nov 2018 11:30:59 EST ID:VMZCCzo4 No.893345 Ignore Report Reply
>>893325
Bong would work better. Gravity bong is not a bong since it doesn't function as such.
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Henry Clavingfuck - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 01:28:04 EST ID:ynvGRDmm No.893355 Ignore Report Reply
>>893297
Looking for some quick advice guys. Roommate tried smoke a ton of salvia. At first, he was chilling and really happy. Now he's trying to fight the toilet and my chair. We vacated the room, he's in bed, and he's just fucking pissed at everything and slamming his fist at the wall. RA is next door. What do.
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Shitting Shakestone - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 03:10:27 EST ID:vfJEkW0L No.893356 Ignore Report Reply
>>893355
Send a pic
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Emma Foffinggold - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 08:46:01 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.893359 Ignore Report Reply
>>893341
Dude, I've only smoked 20x and have had total obliteration of the self trips, numerous times.

>>893355
Told you about that salvia my nigga.
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Henry Clavingfuck - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:33:12 EST ID:ynvGRDmm No.893365 Ignore Report Reply
>>893359
>>893356
Is it normal for people to go into a fit of rage after too much salvia? It took him around an hour to knock out. He's fine rn. He had around 2.5 servings of 10x.
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' God !!Bwteoy2D - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 18:26:33 EST ID:VMZCCzo4 No.893368 Ignore Report Reply
>>893359
>I've only smoked 20x and have had total obliteration of the self trips
THIS

10x is nothing to fuck around with
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Wesley Goodwell - Thu, 15 Nov 2018 21:07:45 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.893372 Ignore Report Reply
>>893365
Salvia does weird things to people. It's over in under 5 minutes, but the mindset can linger for days.

After my first salvia trip, I had intense existential fears of reality just spontaneously collapsing back into the salvia void for a few days, and those fears stayed in the back of my head until I did shrooms for the first time a few months later.
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Reuben Hezzlefutch - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:44:56 EST ID:QOhI8nH5 No.893374 Ignore Report Reply
>>893297
okay i haven't read the thread much but i know some biochemistry and have a shiny useless piece of paper to prove it. salvia is a serious fucking hallucinogen but it shares literally n o t h i n g in common with lsd/shrooms/dmt/mescaline/whatever the fuck traditional psychedelic hallucinogen, other than the fact it makes you hallucinate. go ahead and try it, i havent done it myself but i'm definitely planning on it, just don't consider it your first traditional psychedelic. consider it your first, and likely only (least 'till another one is developed and available on the market in likely 20/30+ years because the structure of it is complex as fuck), kappa-opioid receptor agonist that makes you hallucinate. shit is A FUCKING KAPPA OPIOID AGONIST. it is simultaneously the coolest shit ever from a scientific standpoint and the lamest shit ever from a lot of reports (although you definitely fucking see shit).

but try a SEROTONERGIC psychedelic, because salvia, shit isn't the same. not subjectively, not objectively. try both, why the hell not, but do not compare your experiences on the two because according to all of the scientific literature i have read they are not comparable. and the non-scientific, subjective literature, which although I have a bias against it's mostly what you'll find here, but I think this is one of the rare cases where they align.
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Cyril Diffingwater - Fri, 16 Nov 2018 06:45:16 EST ID:GTVNmDvV No.893376 Ignore Report Reply
>>893341
Thanks for the response! I don't know about extracts but the guy I'm getting it from is selling the dried leaves for about 10€ per 5g is that a good price also are the dried leaves strong enough to get a effect trip?
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John Bardville - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:04:06 EST ID:sl7DyCSC No.893397 Ignore Report Reply
Comment>>893297
>>893297
haha this nigga right here
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John Bardville - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:06:37 EST ID:sl7DyCSC No.893398 Ignore Report Reply
>>893297
also, if ur dead srs, just try some 20x extract, a tiny pinch is enough and it vaporizes pretty easily even with a shitty bic lighter
just keep torching it for a few secs and inhale and hooooooooold until you cant, and enjoy being raped
also, dont you dare bitch about it on here afterwards
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chocobo - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 13:51:29 EST ID:PKNMBvA2 No.893401 Ignore Report Reply
>>893376
thats a good deal if its atleast 5-10x but if its regular dried leaves from the plant without any extra kick then you probably arnt going to get much out of it. If thats the case though i would use it to spliff joints :)
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Clara Blollywire - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 16:14:52 EST ID:VMZCCzo4 No.893403 Ignore Report Reply
>>893376
dried leaves are enough to trip pretty mad balls, but not for a breakthrough in 99% of cases.
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Martha Sankinpone - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 17:40:49 EST ID:SZEx5gF2 No.893404 Ignore Report Reply
>>893297
Salvia is kind of an odd first choice. It's quite commonly dysphoric for many people, and is probably one of the least forgiving of the available hallucinogenic substances available.
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John Bardville - Sat, 17 Nov 2018 18:38:33 EST ID:sl7DyCSC No.893406 Ignore Report Reply
whatever u do OP, just be sure to have a trip sitter
stay safe bro
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Albert Blirryridge - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 01:53:50 EST ID:shr+VMEx No.893413 Ignore Report Reply
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>>893297
I smoked it out of a fuckin copper pipe, salvia is salvia; it fucked me up for 5 minutes that felt like 15.
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Betsy Crudgegold - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 02:10:54 EST ID:02A+C6rV No.893414 Ignore Report Reply
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>>893413
Salvia is intense. I was an opiate junkie and also a fan of shrooms, tabs, and DMT, so I gave it a try.

I made my own extract from cheap plant material I ordered online. I smoked like 5 fat tokes. I thought I was at the circus. I was in a huge red tent and elephants were walking around me. It then wore off, I was actually just starting down the kitchen sink. I thought I was actually at a circus.

I tried more, then I thought I was getting runover by one of those big pavers that smooth fresh roads...

My skin, then, turned inside out once more and then I realized I was still standing in my kitchen...

NB, it gets too intense and I was happy to find myself in my own kitchen.
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Albert Curringridge - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 05:28:59 EST ID:hKlkCyj8 No.893436 Ignore Report Reply
>>893406
Probably will go in the woods we have a little hut there it's a very nice environment
But I may wait before doing it and try some other psychedelics I heard about dxm but not sure where to get it and if it's even used in cough syrup btw I'm in Austria maybe some other drugs I could try?
Did try to take a dose of amanita muscaria but it never had an effect now I have to wait till next year... Will also be looking for some Psylocybin mushrooms
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Hamilton Favingwurk - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 13:43:06 EST ID:UNG2kMxw No.893443 Ignore Report Reply
Fuck salvia never had a good time on salvia
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Betsy Dackleduck - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:35:10 EST ID:CRd+/M+Z No.893447 Ignore Report Reply
>>893297
i had a really scary trip where salvia felt like some demon taking over my mind
like i just inhaled a virus or something, and it took all my thoughts and criticized them,
basically rejecting any self soothing thoughts i had trying to keep control, but not actually showing me anything that interesting like on other psychs where if you let go it's blessed, it was just basically saying fuck you to my ego just for smoking it

also, i was listening to an omenxiii song while smoking it and his voice started seeming like he's literally devil incarnate or whatever the fuck, and it sounded like he was saying 666 666 666 over and over again (in the song he's actually saying 'cuz im sick sick sick sick')

it was scary stuff, it showed me one good thing though, that your experience of normal conscious awareness is a lot more fickle than it seems
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Betsy Dackleduck - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 23:37:42 EST ID:CRd+/M+Z No.893448 Ignore Report Reply
>>893372
yeah fuck the shit from the trip can really stick with your for a while, and not in a good way, more like a dull feeling of anxiety you can't really pinpoint but you know is there cuz of the salvia
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Jack Babbleworth - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 07:52:52 EST ID:H1Imn2zo No.893450 Ignore Report Reply
Would it be possible to smoke the Salvia as a joint without any weed? Would I just feel like shit or could it be enjoyable?
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Polly Hucklecocke - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 15:30:30 EST ID:TUiR8aCD No.893455 Ignore Report Reply
>>893374
listen to this guy here
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Oliver Cumblenark - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 20:34:44 EST ID:0x/0iM8p No.893459 Ignore Report Reply
Salvia sucks and it fucks you up

First-time psychedelic should be Mushrooms period
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Basil Nabberway - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 07:09:56 EST ID:eJ4/3gaj No.893463 Ignore Report Reply
>>893459
Yeah I mean maybe I could get a grow kit legally but are they worth it?
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Barnaby Sablinggold - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 09:58:10 EST ID:sl7DyCSC No.893464 Ignore Report Reply
>>893463
no, usually overpriced

http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek
just go to home depot to grab some supplies, order a spore syringe online and youre good to go
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Phineas Sirrystone - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 04:56:45 EST ID:iYdHwm54 No.893474 Ignore Report Reply
>>893297
chew fresh(or rehydrated dried) salvia leaves and absorb it sublingually/buccal. when you burn the leaf it creates a different chemical. they're two different drugs, chewing is said to be much more pleasant.
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Jack Pockforth - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 14:30:24 EST ID:brPY6JzU No.893512 Ignore Report Reply
>>893459
I think acid is fine for a first time too
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Edward Brebbershit - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 15:09:33 EST ID:XObC6A0J No.893532 Ignore Report Reply
>>893512
Hey would 1P-LSD work for a first psycedelic?
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Jarvis Bringerham - Sun, 25 Nov 2018 17:03:52 EST ID:sl7DyCSC No.893554 Ignore Report Reply
>>893532
sure, you should be able to handle a 100mic tab just fine. just keep in mind to reserve at least a whole day for the trip. you might even try 150mics if youre mentally stable and have a trip sitter.


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