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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated April 10)
Necromancy and San Pedro Ignore Report Reply
Archie Shakeworth - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 17:53:19 EST ID:+g4BnDkR No.893426
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My friend gave me pic related. I didn't bother planting it because I wanted to cook it ASAP, but that got delayed because of my medical practicum and exams. It's holidays now and I found this satanic looking thing drying up, sprouting a little even. Is it still ok to de-spine and cook? Doesn't look rotten. Will it just take a little longer to cook?
Martin Ballywat - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 18:26:25 EST ID:oS2qUtWQ No.893427 Ignore Report Reply
what does this have to do with necromancy? Just cook your cactus, boy.
Archie Shakeworth - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 18:31:23 EST ID:+g4BnDkR No.893428 Ignore Report Reply
OK sorry I was being clever; I just noticed it looks more and more 'dead' than it was on delivery. I don't think the molecule is affected by this but just wanted to know if it was commonly stored and used like this, or if I was maybe fucking with dark magic.

Yes sir, of to the woods I go!
Martha Pillyway - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:06:42 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.893429 Ignore Report Reply
totally normal! the cacti are very hardy. The sprouting is normal and eventually it may try to grow roots. Takes weeks though. The rot would be blackish. Good to despine and cook. Doubt it will take any longer. I think you will find it's not a hard trip, doubt you're getting over 250 mg mesc at most. It's the real shit though. Imo use some fresh lemon or lime juice and don't sustain a medium boil, mostly do low and slow.
Polly Dimbleville - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:47:44 EST ID:+g4BnDkR No.893433 Ignore Report Reply
Wow thanks for this post, very reassured!

I have cooked it previously, but something like 5-6 years ago. I absolutely appreciated the experience every time. My favourite visualisation was hours after despining, I closed my eyes and saw endless, cascading columns of spines. I found myself at-ease around nature but averse to being in a house or normal public interaction. I spent most of the day at botanic garden, climbing a small cliff nearby, listening to good music at the beach and talking to my friend also tripping.. Ended one trip with a joint and did some kick-boxing with same friend, was an utterly meaningful and cosy time.

This trip will be my stag party (bachelors party) in the woods, near some natural hot springs. I plan to drop half a tab with it, smoke and drink a lot. Is this generally OK? I'm quite mentally resilient, but never had 4+ substances. Will probably cut down the alc.
Nathaniel Smalldale - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 13:04:51 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.893454 Ignore Report Reply
Sounds like a wunderschoen time, and a nice one you've got lined up too. For the first, I think most of these substances give the same general reaction. Averse to public, down with nature. I personally would love to visit a botanic garden on mesc.
All sounds good for the party. I don't know much about alc/psy but you know smoking will really accelerate things so just take a hit, give it a few minutes, etc. Be safe have fun.
Nigel Duckhall - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 05:25:04 EST ID:VMZCCzo4 No.893462 Ignore Report Reply
Not to make another thread, i am curious what are the advantages of doing an extraction vs just boiling it? Is it worth the effort for most people? How much do extractions vary in difficulty?
Archie Blanderstock - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 13:46:31 EST ID:B0zmtNsV No.893467 Ignore Report Reply
dude just eat a cucumber sized piece it should be enough to trip unless you do psys alot. Do not eat the center it will make you vomit
Doris Copperstone - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:08:45 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.893468 Ignore Report Reply
This is a lie. You need to eat a lot. Mescaline content in fresh live cactus is a fraction of one percent of mass. I haven't done the extracting, seems like a pain since you're working with a lot of biomass. But it would work similarly to a DMT tek, where you get the alkaloid by doing different solvents on different passes, some decanting. You must be very careful using polar solvents which are volatile and flammable, and probably find a good strong base which can be hard to do. Just boil it man. Do several boils and add the extract to a common pot, each time strain the pulp through a shirt, and reduce to like 8-12 fl oz. Use distilled water and stainless steel cookware. The way I see it, boiling works fine for the curanderos and shamans, it will work fine for you.
Doris Copperstone - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:09:55 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.893469 Ignore Report Reply
Just to be sure, I'm saying he's mistaken about eating only a small bit. He's not mistaken about foregoing the center. You want to eat the green part right under the waxy exterior.
Archie Simmlebury - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 18:21:06 EST ID:lwGDG6Vs No.893471 Ignore Report Reply
Hm well i used the whole cactus, approx 1ft worth. I bolied it for a bit more than 6 hours before straining it out into a bottle which made maybe 600ml. I have an iron gut so i dont mind the volume, but does this sound ok?
Hamilton Dapperhene - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 08:36:38 EST ID:vYSAl0RX No.893477 Ignore Report Reply
Ernest Habberville - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 14:17:29 EST ID:nNcd4tVJ No.893483 Ignore Report Reply
It comes from Agora, the wise withholders of explanations and of weapons, welders and regrippers with welders that knocked over hell.

It war with cactus wielding ancient azteks that manifested your question? Because I can possible help you out unless you are already good.

I took their calendar and they cleared you so go on.
Alice Gonkinbury - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 18:28:05 EST ID:MU5DQUTc No.893487 Ignore Report Reply
you need to eat like 70g of dried san pedro iirc
Hugh Brudgefoot - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 19:10:27 EST ID:+g4BnDkR No.893489 Ignore Report Reply
I appreciate it, thanks.

Is that a good size for 1-2 people then?
Lydia Parrybury - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 21:39:54 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.893492 Ignore Report Reply
Like I told you >>893429 it's barely enough for just one person, in my experience. It looks like each section is not even a foot long?
Lydia Parrybury - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 21:51:44 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.893493 Ignore Report Reply
Like how much did you even do in your prior report? >>893433 I thought it was just you taking the mesc this time around, I think making it for two is stretching it. Even if you have half a tab, what about Person B? They will probably eat a bunch of nasty cactus and not have anything even happen if the amount is too small.
Albert Wopperville - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 22:42:54 EST ID:zzYEHi96 No.893494 Ignore Report Reply
depends how potent the cactus is
Lydia Parrybury - Thu, 22 Nov 2018 23:01:09 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.893495 Ignore Report Reply
That's one of the most puzzling parts. I'm pretty sure that for San Pedro the content is very low, marginally higher in Peruvian torch, and higher still in peoytl. But within each species, how much can it vary? I'd love to find out conclusively. I don't think it's much though! There are various strains or lines of these plants too, some might be more potent the way psilocybin mushrooms are?
Albert Wopperville - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 00:33:57 EST ID:zzYEHi96 No.893496 Ignore Report Reply
ive definitely had cactus' from the same strain with greatly varying potency,
Nathaniel Shakeshaw - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 06:09:19 EST ID:Mwz82AfP No.893500 Ignore Report Reply
PC strain of San Pedro is barely active. If u grow san pedro from seeds, u have chance to get good genetics like peruvianus.
I advice u Trout's notes.
Hannah Shakewater - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:23:09 EST ID:gauKfMis No.893501 Ignore Report Reply
Eat it all OP. Slice, lightly boil for 5 hours, strain. Add to a large glass scrap able dish let the tea evap and eat the resin.
Fanny Hubberhedge - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 00:26:04 EST ID:+g4BnDkR No.893523 Ignore Report Reply
OP reporting in.

This might disappoint but I gave away the cactus to a friend and took a hit of acid instead. It was a full-moon party in the middle of BFE with a good party of dudes all tripping. It was his first time and he said it felt quite deep, like a generalised sense of attention to everything. Thanks for the advice; had a blast.

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