/psy/ Psychedelic Discussion
Can DMT or psilocybin help me with social anxiety and fear of women?
>>894178 Maybe, probably not. (sorry). iirc Most people here myself included report (other threads, look for them) that their fundamental self-view and patterns of behavior don't really change long-term. If you want to put in the effort, psilocybin can be a helpful experience and prepare you for DMT. I don't mean to overstate this but these drugs are pretty serious business. Don't get me wrong they're euphoric, ecstatic. But you might experience questions, doubts, fears, that are worse than your current problems.
>>894178It's possible that they could, but honestly do you believe you're capable of helping yourself with overcoming social anxiety or your fear of women? If the answer is no then taking psychedelics isn't going to be of any use toward that end. Nothing in this world is capable of doing the actual work required of you to overcome these problems in and of themselves. Anything that could actually potentially help you won't if you don't realize and accept that the only one truly capable of improving yourself and your life situation.If you don't believe that you are capable of helping yourself overcome your problems without the aid something else, (you know, even if that just means it might take you significantly longer to improve without that aid but eventually you'd succeed) then the any help that something like psychedelics could give you would be negated. The drugs aren't magic; no solutions outside yourself exist.
>>894178the only way to get good at meeting women is becoming more comfortable around them. You can learn how to read social cues and overcoming the urge to run away from uncomfortable social interactions or avoiding them altogether. Shrooms could help to point out some fixed patterns in your life stopping you from being social, but ultimately it's the habit of overcoming social anxiety that will help you the most.
>>894186juat to add, mediation practice will help more than taking drugs
on the subject of you fearing women, do you mean you can't even talk to women/fear tgen in general or more specifically when it comes to trying to start a relationship or see if they're down to fuck or whatever?why is it, do you think, that you fear women? is it something like lack of experience coupled with your anxiety, or is it something else that's deeper like mommy issues or some Freudian kind of shit like that?
>>894187What types of meditation? Any guides or info to research?>>894191I think it may be some type of deeper mommy issues, I was always a momma's boy and didn't connect with my dad the way I wish. Also, Its most prevalent with women I want a relationship or sex with but also with women I am not interested in. >>894186I've been trying to improve with this, I am terrible at social cues. I suspect some type of aspergers, I instinctively look away when I make eye contact a lot and I have to force myself to make eye contact in conversation
>>894178I've found MDMA to be really useful for reducing social anxiety and increasing empathy in general, I think there's some studies with oromising results in that regard too. Psychedelics have helped with my overall mental health in general but not really for socialising specifically.
>>894193In what setting do you recommend it?
>>894178I can speak only from my experience with psilocybin and the short answer is no and the long answer is yes.Before my first trip I had wild expectations about psychedelics and the reality of it surpassed it all, it is the most important day of my life. Where it failed to meet the expectations is social anxiety of women in particular. My trips however and in particular one very bad trip pushed me to do daily mindfulness practice (meditation) and I see great progress in my social anxiety. So psilocybin did do that but indirectly. It showed me the way but I still have to do the hard work. I never had DMT.
I was not particularly fearful of interacting with women, but people in general, although I was obviously increasingly nervous to interact with girls that I found particularly attractive. I was very socially awkward and nervous for most of my young life, into my early twenties. Drugs were a huge defining factor in my overcoming social fears and learning how to properly interact with others.I began smoking weed regularly when I was 20 or 21, and I think I was 23 when I starting tripping, taking psy cubensis several times over a year. It really opened my eyes to the way life is, and the more I tripped the more I began to see myself and how others saw me, and my place in life. It really made me gel more, if you know what I'm saying. I completely lost my social fears and pressures over time, in a way that I know would never have been possible without my many psychedelic experiences.I don't think DMT would be so good for self-reflection, or anything that might help you overcome social anxiety and fear of interacting with people. Maybe? Not much, or nearly as much as shrooms would. If you're serious then I can help you out with dosages if you're a noob. Either way, good luck
>>894290I am curious about the doses since I have experience with psilocybin (p. cubensis) and the experiences did not remove my social anxiety directly (I am the one who has to do the work). I suspect your trips were in the 3 to 5 grams dry range.
>>894291Yeah, I was going to suggest you take an average of 3.5 grams per trip. That's generally considered a "decent" trip for psy cubensis in my experiences and from what I've heard online. It'll take about 1.5 hours to fully come up, then you'll peak for about 3 hours, and then spend another 3ish hours coming down. It's enough for a fairly new tripper to experience some moderately heavy things.Definitely, 3.5 grams, potentially even 4-5 grams of dried psy cubensis. I've had a lot of powerful, introspective trips on 4-5 grams. Psilocybin is considered therapeutic. Definitely.
>>894181>>894181I agree, psychedelics are not something to mess around with just because you feel insecure because you cant get laid. They are a spiritual experience and should not be taken lightly. Talking from experience
>>894295I've had plenty of 3.5 grams experiences and it never did with anxiety much by itself. If you look back couldn't it be your perspective (i. e. anxiety in particular) shifted after the higher (5 grams) doses?
>>894192bumping, because I'm in the same boat>>894193i've been meaning to try this for two years now. but just yesterday I saw a video from cg kid where he talked about his mdma addiction. he said something along the lines of "i thought that I wasnt quite complete yet and that taking MDMA could help me with social anxiety"that sounds almost exactly like me and I don't want to slide down this hellhole of addiction
>>894299Uhh, MDMA can really help you see the reasons for your social anxiety and therefore help you. Thats what happened to me while using in a therapeutic setting.
>>894329What kind of setting and what dosage would you recommend? (155lbs/70kg)I don't struggle with anxiety a whole that much, rather I feel fucking disconnected all the time, like I just don't belong anywhere. I have a hard time connecting on an emotional level, just not very in touch with my emotions ig
>>894330Ideal MDMA therapy setting: In a quiet room with soft things to touch with someone you have an established therapeutic relationship to talk to. Ideal MDMA therapy dose: 100-120mgDo not eat for 3 hours prior to taking MDMA. Do this every 2-6 weeks for up to six sessions. Normally people will suggest doing recreational MDMA less frequently, but in my experience if you are really doing therapy the benefits of frequent sessions are worth the extra risk. MDMA therapy is great for anxiety, PTSD, and some treatment resistant depression.
I used to be in the same boat, op. Psys helped me understand the roots of my fears and hangups (unrealistic expectations, cultural pressure), so they were useful in that sense. But they did t make me a ladies man.
>>600357 No kidding? What happened? I saw at least a part of the video OP is looking for on Pornhub ... ↵
Yeah, im sure we got 100% the full and honest story from that poster... ↵
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