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David Blammlekadge - Fri, 22 Mar 2019 21:56:12 EST ID:tq4503pw No.894344
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What is your experience with LSA?
Do you prefer Hawaiian babies or Morning Glory?

I'm planning on trying it soon. Where would be the best place to get them?
I see them on amazon but i can't tell if they have pesticides or other chemicals or whatnot.
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Ernest Fasslenet - Fri, 22 Mar 2019 22:20:41 EST ID:89NhF9Ga No.894345 Ignore Report Reply
>>894344
Read the bible. Vasoconstriction can lead to gangrene, ignore all recommended dosages on sites like erowid etc, as little as half a seed of low potency morning glory chewed thoroughly can help to induce sleep.
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Ernest Fasslenet - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 01:38:26 EST ID:89NhF9Ga No.894351 Ignore Report Reply
>>894344
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZojJzcYPas Live Priest

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=catholic&sp=EgJAAQ%253D%253D Live Priest Streams
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David Blammlekadge - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 01:47:49 EST ID:tq4503pw No.894352 Ignore Report Reply
>>894345
>>894351
What the fuck is this
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Esther Nezzlespear - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 07:33:02 EST ID:+zVqs3xZ No.894359 Ignore Report Reply
I use LSA. I don't think there's a big difference between the two. I use it with DXM because it's too anxiogenic alone, but I need to do more experimenting to figure out the right amounts to use.
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Eliza Greenworth - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 12:55:20 EST ID:yOXYTl7r No.894365 Ignore Report Reply
>>894344
love lsa a lot, better than cid imo
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Samuel Clinkinchetch - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 13:11:10 EST ID:IUfz5v9T No.894369 Ignore Report Reply
>>894365

If you could get the positive effects without the inevitable nausea and usual slight head ache, then probably. I feel like a strong LSA trip is like a mix between LSD and psilocybin. It's really mental, heavy in the dream-like states where you get lost in your mind, your innervision mixing with your open vision to make hecka visual dreamscapes.
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Nicholas Lightgold - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 13:43:30 EST ID:hxN6EQM3 No.894370 Ignore Report Reply
LSA is alright. I just cant take the nausea. Every time I've taken enough to trip, I've had to endure the comeup laying in bed motionless for at least an hour so I won't chuck. Once I got arrested because I went to my car to smoke weed, which i did, which made me vomit, apparently that got the cops called on me and I got arrested and spent the night in jail on LSA. That sucked.

I've also been to a performance of Muisc For 18 Musicians on a homemade water extraction on the morning glories. Best live music performance of my life. It can almost feel like a mix in between mushrooms and acid.
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Ian Blubblefield - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 13:58:22 EST ID:bfB0voM7 No.894371 Ignore Report Reply
>>894370
This... LSA is for bed-trips, or to be used in small quantities to potentiate a brew that's primarily composed of other constituents. It's good for watching movies though, or for mild snuggles that won't lead to sex.
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Cornelius Fecklebock - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 15:49:28 EST ID:Plel+GQU No.894377 Ignore Report Reply
LSA is super sedative and you'll basically spend the whole trip in one room just chilling.

I like the feeling of vasoconstriction but it gets bad over 8-12 HBWR seeds. I never had much issue with nausea though.

Visuals are a bit eh but it's got a killer headspace and a pretty nice body load.
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Caroline Hundlegold - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:15:51 EST ID:k0jprq74 No.894378 Ignore Report Reply
>>894371
Doesn't the nausea come from the seeds themselves and not the actual LSA? Why don't you guys extract?
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Ian Blubblefield - Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:21:48 EST ID:bfB0voM7 No.894379 Ignore Report Reply
>>894378
No, LSA it's self causes nausea. Extraction can get rid of a portion of it from other constituents, but the LSA does it on it's own.
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Ernest Sivingsadging - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 09:06:31 EST ID:+zVqs3xZ No.894401 Ignore Report Reply
I chew the hbwr for 5 mins then leave it under the tongue for 20 mins before swallowing. Seems like a method you can do with consistency (which is important to me, idk about you all).

And make use of the other nausea prevention advice like ginger and lying still.
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Lillian Sennershaw - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 09:12:00 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.894402 Ignore Report Reply
>>894371
>to be used in small quantities to potentiate a brew that's primarily composed of other constituents.

This.

If you ever end up with some weak tabs, a subpar shroom or cactus harvest, that's when you bust out the LSA.

It's legal in quite a few areas, so as long as you go to the smartshop before closing time, you can always add some extra boom to a trip. It's great.
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Clara Suvingstone - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 12:11:09 EST ID:bfB0voM7 No.894403 Ignore Report Reply
>>894401
No... don't eat tasty things that prevent nausea. They will just fail, you'll vomit, and then the brain blames the tasty thing for the vomiting!
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Awe' God !!Bwteoy2D - Sun, 24 Mar 2019 13:53:55 EST ID:VNWfnnHN No.894416 Ignore Report Reply
>>894369
Nausea doesn't last the entire trip. There is potential for advanced extraction techniques that would further help with physical challenges. Ultimately the magic of the trip is not what happens in the physical.

And I agree, to me it's the strongest suits of acid combined with the strongest suits of rooms.
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David Wozzledale - Sat, 30 Mar 2019 19:32:12 EST ID:7k3SeZZ1 No.894540 Ignore Report Reply
LSA can be a lot of fun. I wouldn't rank it as high as actual LSD, although it certainly has potential, and I feel that if there wasn't nausea present and you could push the dose it would be at least as good as the real stuff. I only had true hallucinations with morning glory, and while it is true that HBWR contains more LSA, it's missing something. I've done research and found that HBWR contains a different spectrum of alkaloids than morning glories do, and always had a better trip with the morning glories. ~1000 seeds soaked in cold distilled water for 1 hour had me on the moon. You have to beware the nausea with this stuff though, it's no joke. Water extractions remove some of it, but it's still going to be present.

I've done it plenty of times though and always enjoyed it. It's like an earthy, natural LSD. It feels a lot like LSD but the visuals aren't as pronounced, and you're going to have a pretty serious body load with it too (probably due to vasoconstriction). As long as you're careful with the dose, and prepared for the nausea, it's an amazing experience. Others in this thread have said the nausea isn't present for the whole trip and while YMMV, I always found the nausea only lasts about an hour before it subsides. It does have a real killer headspace and overall is worth trying, I would say. Just be careful.

And, as others have said there are advanced extraction techniques that can remove the nausea and other physical effects. These techniques range from slightly advanced to quite advanced though, and require actual chemicals and solvents, and so I will not list them here. Do your research and you'll find them. If you have the chemistry know-how you might be able to come up with something nice.

Oh, and try to find fresh seeds. There is a difference, and I've always found fresh seeds to be more psychedelic while old seeds just seem to make me sleepy. You might be able to find fresh seeds on Amazon, but I would look into a seed supplier. A company who wholesales seeds (not just LSA seeds) as their business should have them in stock, and they should be fresh too.
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Nigel Nillerped - Sat, 30 Mar 2019 21:08:35 EST ID:17MYjiR5 No.894545 Ignore Report Reply
>>894540
yeah, but can you really buy and safely consume morning glory seeds from regular seed suppliers intended for gardening?
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PirateMike - Sat, 30 Mar 2019 22:09:13 EST ID:TTFYTBlU No.894547 Ignore Report Reply
>>894344
I did a water extraction of about 11 grams of morning glory but all I got was some mood lift and, weirdly enough, I feel stimulated rather than sedated. The seeds are from plants I grew myself but they were kind of immature (frost hit the stupid plants before seeds dried completely) and these seeds are roundish rather than elongated and half-moon shaped like in OP's picture. I know the half moon ones are the good ones. The come up was pretty euphoric but then almost nothing. I don't even see a fractal, I'm not even getting any CEVs. I'm definitely feeling better than at the start, it feels like I'm on a nootropic and, interestingly, my back pain is gone (mostly). Is LSA an analgesic?
Anyway I was hoping to have a much more interesting Saturday night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVXauWq9Hwg.
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Nathaniel Connerwirk - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 00:22:26 EST ID:LAWRfc3P No.894550 Ignore Report Reply
>>894344
>What is your experience with LSA?

Done it several times. It's a mindfuck. I once spent a few hours stuck in bed wanting to drink some water, but my mind was stuck in a thought loop. I just couldn't figure out how it would be possible to actually get up and get get get get get a drink of water. I felt like I needed to map out every single neuron in my body to get a clear understanding of what what neurons needed to fire in order to make my muscles work. That thought loop then evolved into another where I couldn't comprehend what water actually is because the word 'water' had lost it's meaning and I felt as though understanding the water would be like trying to explain what color is to someone who had been blind from birth.

>Do you prefer Hawaiian babies or Morning Glory?

HWBR simply because it means eating less nasty seeds. Both taste like a mixture of potting soil and rancid lettuce.

>Where would be the best place to get them?
I see them on amazon but i can't tell if they have pesticides or other chemicals or whatnot.

Google is your friend.
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Jack Drucklebeck - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 00:26:48 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.894551 Ignore Report Reply
>>894550
>Done it several times. It's a mindfuck. I once spent a few hours stuck in bed wanting to drink some water, but my mind was stuck in a thought loop. I just couldn't figure out how it would be possible to actually get up and get get get get get a drink of water. I felt like I needed to map out every single neuron in my body to get a clear understanding of what what neurons needed to fire in order to make my muscles work.

Yup. Been there.
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Priscilla Bunridge - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 09:35:49 EST ID:+zVqs3xZ No.894558 Ignore Report Reply
>>894550
>I once spent a few hours stuck in bed wanting to drink some water, but my mind was stuck in a thought loop.

Similar thing happened to me my first time. I remember my original thought was that I needed to get out of bed to put on some pants or to eat some chocolate but it ended up taking about 5 hours because of the thought connectivity et al, I had a new idea pop up in my mind every 15 seconds basically.
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Graham Nittingtork - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 09:50:12 EST ID:tgAwoo50 No.894575 Ignore Report Reply
LSA is really a mixed bag all around. I've done both morning glory and HBWR and I've got to say there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Ultimately I find myself preferring HBWR because you dont need to ingest as much seed gunk but at the same time I cant even begin to imagine anything more foul than HBWR. I once took 15 HBWR and the vasoconstriction was so bad that I couldn't move. I vomited more than I ever had in my life but once that ended I was having a pretty good time.
I find morning glory to be a little less nauseating but then I've only taken like 6 grams at a time so I can't attest to the higher doses. I did end up vomiting but that ended rather quickly and wasn't very intense at all. I found it to be euphoric in a mindless sort of way. No real visuals to speak of.
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Albert Chedgeforth - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 07:03:47 EST ID:Y+Oe+mvh No.894604 Ignore Report Reply
>>894545
Yes you can. I usually buy HBWR seeds online. Unlike the other dude, I actually prefer HBWR. Just crush about ten up, put them in a peppermint teabag and put in your tongue for 10 mins before spitting out. Makes for an excellent trip with minimal nausea, and if you still feel mild nausea, just take some anti-emetic
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Molly Worthingson - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 22:20:55 EST ID:LAWRfc3P No.894617 Ignore Report Reply
>>894575
>I once took 15 HBWR and the vasoconstriction was so bad that I couldn't move. I vomited more than I ever had in my life but once that ended I was having a pretty good time.

You can mitigate the vasoconstriction a bit if you have access to ED meds like Viagra or Cialis. Also, take an anti-histamine for the nausea. Better yet, do an extraction with water.

If you really want to go all out to avoid nausea, you could use the extraction rectally provided you don't use a ton of water, otherwise you'll end up having an explosive shit. You can't use it dry, you need water or something if you want to plug it. Also, don't use as much seed. It goes straight to bloodstream and will be way to intense if you use an oral dose.

>Just crush about ten up, put them in a peppermint teabag and put in your tongue for 10 mins before spitting out. Makes for an excellent trip with minimal nausea, and if you still feel mild nausea, just take some anti-emetic

Tried sublingual, but even with the peppermint, the taste is fucking brutal. If you can stomach the taste though, sublingual is a good method. Ideally, you'd use a tincture of extracted LSA that would not taste at all like the seeds. You may as well just drink it though if you've extracted the LSA itself from the seeds, as you won't be ingesting the undesirable ingredients that cause the severe nausea anyways. Again though, lysergamides can cause nausea regardless of purity, so an antihistamine is a good way to avoid it if you still do get nauseous.

If you take an antihistamine, don't over do it. They are sedating, and in high doses they are deleriants, which can take your trip into very dark and bizarre places. But hey, if you want a powerful and bizzare trip, go for it. Just have a sitter because you will not be able to control yourself. Additionally, antihistamines are also vasoconstrictors in large doses, so you might be in a lot of discomfort or even pain during your trip.
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Beatrice Dettingpedge - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 13:07:02 EST ID:3gPyGXf3 No.894635 Ignore Report Reply
>>894617
>You can mitigate the vasoconstriction a bit if you have access to ED meds like Viagra or Cialis
Jesus. Please don't take medical advice from random anons online. Not a doctor but I can definitely see this combination going badly.
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Charlotte Drivingstin - Fri, 05 Apr 2019 02:16:28 EST ID:9pDv3ECD No.894658 Ignore Report Reply
I can never make up my mind if I should do LSA on an empty or full stomach since having it on an empty stomach in my mind would be more painful.
I have also seen people say online that they ate before they took LSA and had no pain or vomit but idk how true that is.
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Hannah Duckman - Sat, 06 Apr 2019 01:07:53 EST ID:HhiytVWs No.894671 Ignore Report Reply
>>894635
Done it before, no issues. Not saying it's a good idea for everyone.

>>894658
>I can never make up my mind if I should do LSA on an empty or full stomach since having it on an empty stomach in my mind would be more painful.
I have also seen people say online that they ate before they took LSA and had no pain or vomit but idk how true that is.

What pain? Are you talking about vasoconstriction? Unless you are prone to painful stomach cramps, eating the seeds causes no pain to your digestive tract. You will probably vomit though, and eating will increase the chances of this happening and could also intensify the nausea.
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Priscilla Brabberpadge - Sat, 06 Apr 2019 10:19:37 EST ID:bPrpfbQ+ No.894676 Ignore Report Reply
>>894359
hey got a few q's for u bro
  1. how would u say the lsa nausea compares to the dxm nausea?
  2. which one's worse? how well do they mix?
  3. can i take a smaller amount of lsa with dxm to slightly augment a dxm trip? and how much would that smaller amount be?
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Esther Serringdale - Sun, 07 Apr 2019 08:25:18 EST ID:4yJxre70 No.894691 Ignore Report Reply
>>894676
1 Much easier to handle unless you have DXM powder which I haven't tried.
2 They mix ok I quess, neither makes the other worse in terms of nausea.
3 IME of combining the two I realized that the only point of taking the trip was to experience LSA. Honestly I think DXM isn't worth it when there are so many much more interesting psys and dis to swap it with that don't have the debilitating physical effects. And that is coming from a guy who prefers LSA over acid. DXM is poison and it feels like that, sure other dis may not be healthy either, but at least you can enjoy some trippy exploration without being constantly reminded that you have deliberately put a substance inside your body that is destructive to your body. Anyway, do some PCP, K or nitrous instead. Or the holy MXE for that matter.
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James Habberdut - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 02:45:14 EST ID:+zVqs3xZ No.894712 Ignore Report Reply
>>894676
  1. I think they produce about the same nausea to me honestly, the DXM a bit more, it seems its the other way around to most people. But I drink ginger tea and eat the ginger itself a few hours before tripping and feel very little nausea this way unless its a large dose. But I get feelings of impending doom on the comeup very often and an associated 'sick' feeling and strong body load, I think this is a normal part of the experience which almost always lifts when you peak.

2. I'm not sure what you mean by this question.

3. Yes, I am very interested in what the ratio of DXM to LSA could/should be and you could definitely make the DXM trip a bit more psychedelic by adding the LSA. Another thing to think of is the timing of when you should dose them. But you can choose whatever you want, even 1 or 2 HBWR will change a 4-6mg/kg 2nd plat DXM trip. I think you could try 2 HBWR or whatever a light dose of Morning Glories is and 4mg/kg DXM, dosed at the same time you should have a generally mild/moderate trip which peaks about 2.5-4 hours in, but it depends on the DXM formulation; with Robocough you'd be peaking earlier and with the less concentrated formulations you'd peak later. And then you could go from there. Or figure out your response to either substance on its own and work from there.


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