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- Sun, 28 Jul 2019 19:08:29 EST eImlgAB/ No.897018
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So here is my problem:

I have 10.4 kilos of fresh liberty caps on my coffee table. (Long fucked up story). I'm going to have to store theses before they go off my desiccator caught fire. It will take 7working days for a new one to get here. In good conscience I can't let 10k of shrooms decay in front of me.

So the idea: I have 16.5 liters of 40% generic vodka and 12 large mason jars and a half liter of lemon juice.

Theoretically and from minimal accounts I've heard the alcohol40% with dissolve the psyilocibin and the water 60% should dissolve the psyilocin with out loss of potency. And the lemon juice with prevent oxidation.


The vodka will protect the mushrooms from decay and parasites. As well as preventing breakdown of the alkaloids.

When I want to use it I add a specific quantity to hot tea the alcohol evaporates and leaves the mushrooms and the alkaloids.

I believe this will work but I need a second opinion desecate drying will not work in this quantity of shrooms.

Pls help their is 10 grand on the line.
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Ebenezer Callersit - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 19:17:01 EST WOWM7OHN No.897019 Reply
Sounds like at many places mushroom hunters are going to have a time of scarcity. What the fuck.
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Ebenezer Callersit - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 19:18:40 EST WOWM7OHN No.897020 Reply
What speaks against putting them into the freezer?
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Nicholas Bobblestone - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 19:23:41 EST eImlgAB/ No.897021 Reply
>>897020
Their fresh not died it would destroy cell membrane and reduce potency greatly. Pls correct me if I'm wrong that would save me.
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Nicholas Bobblestone - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 19:25:30 EST eImlgAB/ No.897022 Reply
>>897019
I didn't pick them cause I'm not a dick I traded 5k worth of old molly for it like I said long fucked up story.
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Clara Hushson - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 05:01:40 EST MU5DQUTc No.897032 Reply
>>897022
>I traded 5k worth of old molly for it
that's actually quite a short story
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Archie Banderford - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 09:08:08 EST Y51ImNsx No.897035 Reply
Am I missing something or can liberty caps be cultivated?
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Emma Chicklelet - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:51:21 EST L6+EKVyR No.897046 Reply
>>897018
Why would you have a dessicator if you didn't grow them? Find a tek for storing them in honey. The shelf life of honey is a long time.
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Nathaniel Cumbleson - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:15:30 EST eImlgAB/ No.897059 Reply
>>897046
They need to be bone dry for honey and I grow my own usually hence food desicator
But this is different as I bought them.im doing the vodka tek if i can't find another way by tomorrow
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Nathaniel Cumbleson - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:18:37 EST eImlgAB/ No.897060 Reply
>>897032
Well there's the fact that the person I bought from was a local politician or that in the last decade I've never seen a single lib in my country so i don't know where the fuck he got them. Not as short a story as you would imagine.
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Basil Pindercocke - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 04:44:44 EST MU5DQUTc No.897064 Reply
>>897060
stories can be as long or short as you want them to be. it just depends how much detail you put in. life: a user's manual by georges perec could be a very short story as it's just about a man walking across his apartment but it manages to spin that out into 600 pages.
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Sidney Puvingspear - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 10:12:24 EST E5G/6x8Z No.897112 Reply
>>897064
Good point but I was referring to the time period through which the story took place.
I.E 4 weeks.
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Reuben Honeyhood - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:44:40 EST 9EjG30Wr No.897119 Reply
As a chemist this question tickles my chemistry kink in the right spot so I'll think with you, without really being able to provide decisive help:)

First of all the lemon juce is added to the mixture to make sure it will dissolve completely in the water (by lowering the pH it makes sure the Psilocybin is charged and will dissolve in the water and absorbed even faster when dosed)

Preventing oxidation is only possible by removing the oxygen from the solution and around it. (maiby the dissolved Psilocybin is less vunrable to oxidation but I have no idea about that)
But if you have it dissolved that should be a great reduction in contact with oxygen compared to it being in contact with air, so its probably a good move lowering oxidation occuring in the Psilocybin.

40/60 v/v EtOH/Water is a nice mixture for the extraction of other (maiby psychedelic active) compounds in the mushrooms and to prevent any bacterial growth. be sure to store it in a dark container though.
also, will you filter the chunks of mushroom out or keep them in the solution?

Its possible I'm wrong about something in my train of thought here, so if anybody has info to add, please do. For science!
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Cornelius Sicklemetch - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 17:14:51 EST O+nLOUrh No.897122 Reply
>>897119
the addition of the acid from the lemon juice also tends to cause the weakly bonded phosphate group to drop off and be replaced with an alcohol
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Cedric Gibblehood - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 17:35:40 EST 57lCQw6W No.897123 Reply
Using a fan would probably cause you a lot less trouble than these storage ideas you have, do an extraction afterwards if you want but read up on that shit first.
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Awe' !!5CyVGVbI - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 17:47:22 EST 2SNr+CMS No.897124 Reply
>>897018
bad idea OP.

Find 99 ethanol or make a desicating chamber with CaCl or KCl don't remember but it's cheap and used on the roads. and a superb dessicant don't to 2 % relative humidity
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Polly Dirrypit - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 06:05:09 EST gcWs5mVn No.897133 Reply
>>897119
Interesting ideally I'd like two keep as much potency as possible. I covered the jars in a black tape and keep them under a mylar sheet in my basement. I added about two tablespoons of lemon juice to each jar.
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Polly Dirrypit - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 06:06:56 EST gcWs5mVn No.897134 Reply
>>897116
/psy/
Not
/writing semantics and philosophical definitions of subjective word definitions/
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Polly Dirrypit - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 06:19:58 EST gcWs5mVn No.897135 Reply
>>897124
Dessacate was never an option for >10k of mushrooms not enough dessacate not enough time.
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Awe' !!5CyVGVbI - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 13:14:36 EST JFCmklMj No.897144 Reply
>>897135
>they sell bags by the 25 kg
>buy 4
>pour on ground
>make racks
>add a fan
>dry your shrooms
>profit???

if 10k is on the line, I'd get some dehydrators or just build some though. C-mon, dude, I hope by this time you have already solved your challenge.
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Nathaniel Bobblefoot - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:42:03 EST E5G/6x8Z No.897145 Reply
>>897144
Yeah I explained in my original post delivery off my new dehydrator took too long and I can't get that much magnesium dessacate without shipping it the same as the dehydrator anyway problem solved after extensive research it turns out alcohol is a pretty dope medium to store
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Nathaniel Bobblefoot - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:44:05 EST E5G/6x8Z No.897146 Reply
>>897145
(Posted early) shroooms and will list pretty much indefinitely so thanks for the help guys.
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Awe' !!5CyVGVbI - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 16:43:23 EST Vp2IGrl0 No.897186 Reply
>>897146
probably not with lemon as that actually convers cybin to cin
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James Wenningfuck - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 08:25:38 EST YAtzZJEn No.897384 Reply
>>897018
Dope update tried an equivalent 3g trip today in camomile tea hit like 3g lovely trip no loss of potency lasted same as normal practically glowing at 8 hours after dosing didn't heat the tea up enough tho so I think I drank about a shot and a half of vodka but didn't effect the trip pleasantly surprised with results.

Btw ate the chopped up shrooms
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David Worthingforth - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 10:33:04 EST 9XZy/yw8 No.897386 Reply
>>897018
Whats wrong with spreading them out and letting a few fans blow over it?
I've done this many times (obv with a lot less) but it works like a charm
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Hedda Brisslemat - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 11:42:37 EST RyU8kL0D No.897387 Reply
>>897386
It needs to be bone dry to last longer than a few weeks and with the quantity it may have to last year's + I don't own a fan
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Hedda Brisslemat - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 11:42:37 EST RyU8kL0D No.897388 Reply
>>897386
It needs to be bone dry to last longer than a few weeks and with the quantity it may have to last year's + I don't own a fan
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Hedda Brisslemat - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 11:44:59 EST RyU8kL0D No.897389 Reply
>>897385
I don't intend on doing either I'm keeping it in a metal boxes in a cool place no need for refrigeration and the alchol will kill all bacteria and preserve the alkoloids
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Awe !!Bwteoy2D - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:40:04 EST l2d+TEpV No.897405 Reply
>>897389
If you say so. Remember they are in a liquid and have inevitable expose to oxygen. Also in many cases metals act as catalyzers. Alcohol does nothing to preserve the alcaloids. If you can keep it really cold, that's your best bet for it lasting.

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