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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

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- Sun, 25 Aug 2019 09:53:06 EST N35khD7/ No.897763
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I want intense visuals but I don't want to be too emotionally impacted. I'm not really fond of feeling "enlightened" for some reason. Is there a good acid dose for something like this or am I using the wrong drug?
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David Sollerdale - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 15:37:22 EST IUfz5v9T No.897766 Reply
>>897763

LSD isn't very introspective. It's mostly just visual and physical stimulation. However, it sounds like you want 25x chemicals.
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Wesley Hiblingshit - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 16:28:22 EST BzOrx0HK No.897767 Reply
>>897763
Get a coloring book an d smoke some salvia

Nah psys can be whatever u want them to be or whatever u need them to be take a whole shit load of lsd and mushrooms and see what happens

Orrr try dxm and /dis/ to go to cartoon land and have a watercolor brain for a day
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Polly Fuckinghood - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 00:48:07 EST c3gflUrd No.897773 Reply
Mix your prefereed psych with some ket and some weed, keep many nitrous chargers handy, and enjoy fractal ego death. Can't be too emotionally impacted when there is no ''self'' to impact
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William Nennerwetch - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 04:05:20 EST pmVkPW+h No.897777 Reply
>>897773
That's my preferred way of tripping. Great synergy and intense experiences without having to take big doses. Eg, 100ug acid, a couple puffs of weed, a few nitrous bulbs and 100mg ket is plenty for me to get way out.

Still impactful though, ime, which is sort of the point. 4homet was intense pointless visuals with a body high for me. Maybe that's what op is looking for. Or maybe combine psys with opis.
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Lillian Fellerkurk - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 06:09:33 EST 7OBsp/5q No.897778 Reply
phenylethylamine based psychedelics are the closest to what you want, but honestly you are going to be hard pressed to get any of the best visuals without being majorly emotionally and perceptually effected. you just need to get over it man, or learn to embrace and enjoy it. otherwise, move on to other drugs. right now you're on the path to fucking yourself up emotionally.

think of what you're asking here. you want to swim without getting wet or without ever leaving the shore. you want to play with fire while staying cool. you can't get something without giving or losing something in return. the emotional trip is caused by the same underlying processes in the brain that result in the visual and auditory hallucinations--they're inexorably linked. it's unfortunate, but if you can't deal with that, then you need to abandon your interest in and use of psychedelics.

even more unfortunately for you, there aren't really any drugs that do what you want that exist. the closest thing to getting what you want can be achieved with meditation and a sensory deprivation tank. perhaps a light dose of something like DXM (which causes me lots of CEVs even at small doses) and smoking some cannabis before getting in the sensory deprivation tank could enhance it greatly. short of that, you aren't going to find anything that can provide you with what you want.
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Lillian Fellerkurk - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 06:13:32 EST 7OBsp/5q No.897779 Reply
>>897778
of course, light doses of shrooms, LSD, or some other psychedelic in combination with the dxm and cannabis, or even just any combination of those 3 or using them alone should also enhance the effect.

without access to a sensory deprivation tank, the best you can do is take a bath in the dark and meditate, or otherwise lie in bed in the dark with comfortable ear plugs in and without any covers on and either being naked or having light, comfortable, form fitting clothes on... or fuck it, wear whatever you want, lol. either way, you're going to need to utilize meditation and suppress external sources of stimulation in some manner
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Polly Fuckinghood - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 13:44:21 EST c3gflUrd No.897786 Reply
>>897778>>897779
If you're meditating and it,s not impacting you emotionally, I seriously question your meditation technique. And that,s even assuming you don,t mean mindfulness/vipassana meditation but more of a concentration/samatha approach, which while definitely less emotionally impactful then practices that look directly at your minds thought/emotional process. still can bring about some pretty powerful emotions, esppecially during peak experiences


That being said your post is otherwise correct, and I guess it is indeed the best option overall since if gets to be too much he can just stop meditating whereas there's no way to will yourself to stop a trip
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Archie Chacklepack - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 19:53:55 EST EfSmhJnB No.897798 Reply
>>897779
someone who is trying to avoid being intensely emotionally impacted should not take lsd, weed and dxm.

nb
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Hannah Chacklekine - Tue, 27 Aug 2019 14:17:12 EST pYNcEvPI No.897813 Reply
>>897766
>LSD isn't very introspective

lmao, do not listen to this mega faggot. Just because there are drugs that are more introspective and prone to cause mindfucks doesn't mean LSD isn't introspective. This is the kind of bullshit people read and then have a nightmare trip because they took 5 hits after being told it's all just fun and games and pretty colors.
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Charlotte Shittingbanks - Tue, 27 Aug 2019 16:59:45 EST c3gflUrd No.897818 Reply
>>897813
Honestly when I see people claim that LSD isn,t introspective, i immediately suspect they've never actually done LSD and have only done like nBOMe or Al-LAD or something else, mistaking it with LSD. Like sure, tryptamines are more introspective than LSD, but LSD is more introspective that phenethylamines so...
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Cornelius Crendershit - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 02:58:19 EST 0ROLFRo8 No.897863 Reply
>>897818
Mad cause he's right lol. Only retards have revelations from psychedelics. Intelligent people already have a good grip on reality and don't need mind altering substances to learn things about themselves
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David Clangerbune - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 04:34:57 EST ldeIHJU9 No.897870 Reply
>>897863
This unironically. I always revert back to my normal self within a day or two. I don't understand how a drug can totally change your perspective on life unless you do it in unhealthy amounts. At that point it's probably no better than some other kind of mental illness.
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Awe' God !!Bwteoy2D - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:12:15 EST ol3lKwZ/ No.897876 Reply
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>>897863
>Intelligent people already have a good grip on reality
Well then intelligent people are more lost than dumb people. At least dumb people know they haven't a clue.
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Caroline Cinningson - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:03:04 EST pYNcEvPI No.897881 Reply
>>897863
Who was even talking about revelations? What a retard. nb
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Oliver Dozzlepet - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:13:22 EST c3gflUrd No.897884 Reply
>>897863
The only person talking about revelations here is you though?
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Jenny Grandman - Fri, 30 Aug 2019 17:39:00 EST WWVcVP+8 No.897920 Reply
>>897763
OP, try AL-LAD. It's less head trippy, more visual trippy. You're still gonna have a head space though regardless what psychedelic you take though. Comes with the territory. Your best bet is to just learn to enjoy it. Honestly, I can't really imagine a visual only trip. Would be really boring IMO.
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Nicholas Gissleson - Fri, 30 Aug 2019 18:32:32 EST bkUwiMeu No.897924 Reply
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>>897921
25i definitely for empty visuals, but be careful. nbomes are dangerous and the visuals can be "painful", and doesnt take much for it to happen. i remember taking one tab of 25i for the first time and it was just like 2 hours of my world being a fast moving kaleidoscope, and i could feel myself being crunched and folded, slightly reminiscent of salvia as far as the "folding".

you definitely will always have a headspace though. doesnt mean youll be "enlightened", thats up to you, but all of them will have some headspace. as someone else said, you just will need to learn to deal with it.

2C-B is also great for this but i doubt youll get any. lsd isnt terrible but its more about you mate. LSD will conform to your will pretty easily if you know your way around it, whereas shrooms and DMT will make you conform to it.

maybe check out some combos, like MDMA with LSD. very visual, very euphoric, but i doubt know if enlightening is the right word. you'll just feel fucking amazing and love everything and vibe with everything, in my experience. maybe even some dissos, since you seem to want to drown yourself out but still trip.

idk OP, you need some enlightenment if you're trying to avoid it so badly.
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Frederick Lightham - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 06:11:50 EST EKS53C4V No.897937 Reply
>>897924
What ratio md:led should you take? I tried it on 100mg:220ug and it just felt like an acid trip, not particularly euphoric at all
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Lillian Bullywater - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 12:51:49 EST rw2CvfGo No.897970 Reply
Why is everyone so obssessed with visuals? Visuals are the least interesting part of a trip for me. If you wanna see some cool shit take DPH. But if you have nothing better to do on /psy/s than look at pretty colors, you really should find a fucking hobby and use your fucking brain.

Fucking children.
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Priscilla Nickleshaw - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 13:15:45 EST bkUwiMeu No.897972 Reply
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>>897937
i suppose it depends on you, but imo thats way too little mdma for a candyflip. i'd say more like .25 or .3 and 100-200ug. even on the dose you mentioned, i can''t imagine not feeling the mdma if it's good mdma but flipping the ratio would def work. but maybe bump that mdma up a little more.
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Emma Blackforth - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 17:20:11 EST LywZUfmH No.897976 Reply
>>897970
Fuck off retard. Visuals are the best part of a trip. Humans are visually minded animals, and visuals determine your experience of reality. If you think visuals don't matter, you clearly never went beyond the double-heroic dose.
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Basil Sepperway - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 22:22:06 EST S2GOlZrm No.897986 Reply
>>897976
Or maybe you just haven't gotten passed the toddler stage of awe and wonder... or perhaps you're just hedonistic and refuse to ask "why am I seeing this?" The tracers are just you having poor processing power. You're unable to handle the trip, and just stare at the data in awe.
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Wesley Dennerbury - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 22:39:12 EST 7OBsp/5q No.897990 Reply
>>897986
Claiming someone is a toddler or just hedonistic for not asking "why am I seeing this?" is a pretty slippery slope, one you just fell down. If you don't even have a decent grasp on what's causing the visuals, maybe just shut the fuck up with the pretentious bullshit.

To elaborate, it has nothing to do with having "poor processing power". Our consciousness is formed via a thalamocortical circuit. The interactions between the thalamus and surrounding cortical areas are what determine our perceptions. The feedback and regulatory mechanisms are disrupted significantly after taking a psychedelic.

This is essentially tantamount to the "software" that guides the process of forming our perceptual conscious experiences malfunctioning and causing abnormal interactions between the hardware it's running on, creating a highly distorted output from what would otherwise be considered normal input. Psychedelics don't hinder your brain's processing power.
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Nell Girrylune - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 22:46:56 EST NYw9n0/7 No.897991 Reply
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>>897986
This guy probably doesn't get any rad visuals and is taking it out on everyone.
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Reuben Simmerstock - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 00:41:26 EST 1ovl9rxW No.897994 Reply
>>897976
I've done plenty of heroic doses. 100+mg 4-AcO-DMT, 1200µg LSD, etc. I've traversed plenty of hyperspace. I've seen plenty of crazy shit. But still, it's not the most interesting part of the trip. I'm far more interested in the concepts that the visuals stem from. Like I remember what the entities looked like, but they're actions, and reasons are the real wonders for me.
>>897986
> haven't gotten passed the toddler stage of awe and wonder
I would agree with this part. I remember that stage. I got past it.
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Awe' God !!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 06:16:44 EST fifT2mkH No.898002 Reply
>>897994
You can't get past it, beauty and mystery are endless and hiding behind every little thing, what you can do is dumb yourself down enough not to recognize it anymore.
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Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 10:44:00 EST hbiq0Dme No.898018 Reply
>>898002
I meant I got past awe at the visuals. I still marvel at the rest of it.
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Esther Blupperspear - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 12:37:06 EST LywZUfmH No.898025 Reply
>>897994
>Like I remember what the entities looked like, but they're actions, and reasons are the real wonders for me.

Protip: it's just your brain projecting weird fractals into your visual cortex. Shit's not real you fucking schizophrenic retard.
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Awe' God !!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 17:13:01 EST WxNl3AA7 No.898038 Reply
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>>898025
>Reality is not real, it's all just brain and magnets
>Get out of your head
>GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!!
>GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!!
>GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!!
>GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!!
>GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!!
>GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!!
>GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!!
>GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!!
>GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!!
>???
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Nell Girrylune - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 17:24:59 EST NYw9n0/7 No.898042 Reply
>>898025
Esther, before you start calling everyone a schizo retard again, how experienced are you with psy? What all have you done?

Do you really think all visuals are just fractals and tracers?
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Nicholas Burringweg - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 18:15:23 EST EcJZelQK No.898046 Reply
>>898025
"Real wonders" =\= real. Learn grammar. I make no claim of reality, only what I find really interesting, which is not the shit in my visual cortex.
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Betsy Pigglechane - Tue, 03 Sep 2019 17:54:10 EST pYNcEvPI No.898091 Reply
>>897970
>boo hoo how come other people have preferences different to mine
>calling others children

The ironing
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Barnaby Gonnerpeck - Tue, 03 Sep 2019 18:15:54 EST WxNl3AA7 No.898092 Reply
>>898091
I hope you realize that ironing stands for straightening out your clothes after they have been washed in a washing machine.

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