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Amanita Muscaria

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- Sat, 31 Aug 2019 05:25:55 EST LlCcz68O No.897935
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Are Amanita Muscaria /psy/, /dis/ or /del/ ?

In my limited experience, they are more /psy/ than anything else. Just pure white divine light. An amazing friend to hang out with.
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Wesley Sumblestetch - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 10:19:34 EST eImlgAB/ No.897939 Reply
>>897935
I've done them affects are as follows:

4g dried is really all you need

First you feel really sedated almost like opioid sedation but less enjoy able about one and a half hours later you stop feeling the sedation and start feeling almost stimulated and this is when you start feeling a trippy psychedelic mindset with very decent euphoria. The visual are not that pronounced CEVs and mild OEVs can be seen but that's usually not that special unless you do alot walls breath and wobble tracers are very pronounced. Through ot this stage their is a very distinct but mild delirium which only really effects you if you take more then 6g imo. Lasts a long time up to 16 hours if you do alot not recommended tho.

Over all enjoyable very different drug not like any other be careful with your dose.
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Eliza Classlekuck - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 23:20:06 EST NYw9n0/7 No.897950 Reply
Bit of all, depending on who you ask.
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Fanny Brirrykudging - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 03:29:49 EST Q1g8Er0w No.897955 Reply
>>897939
I heard Animita contains ibogenic acid, which is a neurotoxin. I heard it can be neutralized by cooking the mushroom first but I'm too paranoid that trace amounts of neurotoxin would mess me up. I'd love to try it but I don't know if it is worth that risk.
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Lillian Minderchet - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 04:36:37 EST O+nLOUrh No.897956 Reply
>>897955
pretty sure it just makes you nauseous bro shit don't kill you or nothing
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Basil Sepperway - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 22:27:09 EST S2GOlZrm No.897988 Reply
>>897955
It's iboTANIC acid, and it's just something that will fuck up your gut for a few hours. And no, cooking it will make the mushroom inert, essentially a reddish culinary mushroom that's half decent in spaghetti. If you dry it out thoroughly though, that will convert the ibotanic acid.
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Beatrice Goodman - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 04:24:12 EST rg7ykwHc No.898101 Reply
During the beginning of the spring I ate about 5 dried caps a day for a week and they only got better as my tolerance increased because I would be less sedated but the visuals and euphoria would increase. I seemed to only grow tolerant to the negative effects. If I laid dowm the sedation would come on quickly though and help me sleep. Had really vivid dreams that had to do with being in completely empty voids and then a restart of my inner universe. Really gave me the feeling of what death and rebirth might feel like or how something can manifest itself from nothing or almost nothing. Can't wait for them to pop up again next spring.
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Samuel Tillingbury - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 11:15:57 EST S2GOlZrm No.898112 Reply
>>898101
I doubt it's so much about tolerance, and more so about your liver getting accustomed to producing the right enzymes to break down the unwanted constituents.
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Samuel Tillingbury - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:04:25 EST S2GOlZrm No.898132 Reply
>>898118
Is it? Tolerance is usually about the body or mind's reaction to the primary active constituents though. This is more like being used to eating mexican food.
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Doris Smallridge - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:36:55 EST LlCcz68O No.898136 Reply
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This is how I do it:

>dry mushroom caps on low heat 40-50 °C in dehydrator for 48 hrs (should be completely dry like crackers)
>vacuum seal them for long term storage
>crush cracker dry caps and make a tea with sub 80 °C water
>let sit until drinkable temp

Drying them converts the ibotenic acid to muscimol. What little ibotenic acid is left over after drying gets converted in the hot water.
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Doris Smallridge - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:38:41 EST LlCcz68O No.898137 Reply
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>>898101
These guys are all over the place in Scandinavia now. An amazing mushroom year overall. Never seen this many mushroom in the forests before. Maybe will be good for liberty caps later also.
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Lillian Chappertidging - Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:58:08 EST 7OBsp/5q No.898139 Reply
>>898132
yes, it's referred to as dispositional tolerance (also pharmacokinetic or metabolic tolerance). a classic example is how the liver produces more enzymes in heavy drinkers and alcoholics when they start drinking in order to break it down more quickly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_tolerance
>Pharmacokinetic tolerance (dispositional tolerance) occurs because of a decreased quantity of the substance reaching the site it affects. This may be caused by an increase in induction of the enzymes required for degradation of the drug e.g. CYP450 enzymes. This is most commonly seen with substances such as ethanol.

>This type of tolerance is most evident with oral ingestion, because other routes of drug administration bypass first-pass metabolism. Enzyme induction is partly responsible for the phenomenon of tolerance, in which repeated use of a drug leads to a reduction of the drug’s effect. However, it is only one of several mechanisms leading to tolerance.
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stoned chocobo - Thu, 05 Sep 2019 16:58:27 EST e8EMwojg No.898165 Reply
>>898136
and then do you eat the wet shroom sludge or just drink the water? and this can be done immediatly after drying?
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Sophie Fanforth - Thu, 05 Sep 2019 17:50:12 EST LlCcz68O No.898168 Reply
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>>898165
I usually drink the sludge. It's not that bad. If you don't want to drink it, you can filter it and squeeze out the rest of the tea. Can be done immediately after drying.>>898165
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Cyril Sullerville - Thu, 05 Sep 2019 18:53:40 EST eMG+PVtc No.898169 Reply
>>898136
I grind mine after drying and store them in ziploc bags in the freezer. Still good after 18 months.

For dosing I steep the powder in room temp water for 30m or so then filter and discard the solids.

It mixes beautifully with weed edibles ime.
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Nell Blindlefuck - Thu, 05 Sep 2019 20:28:06 EST O+nLOUrh No.898172 Reply
Everytime I did these things I would get the feeling that if I kept running faster and faster my steps would start to ascend an invisible staircase to the sky
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stoned chocobo - Fri, 06 Sep 2019 12:40:53 EST e8EMwojg No.898184 Reply
>>898168
so you drink the whole thing or you seperate the mushrooms from the liquid? because what would be the point if you drink/eat the whole thing?
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Edwin Greenbanks - Fri, 06 Sep 2019 13:32:50 EST LlCcz68O No.898185 Reply
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>>898184
I drink the whole thing since I don't really mind the taste/texture, and to be sure to get all of it in me.
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Nicholas Nenninghall - Fri, 06 Sep 2019 16:20:55 EST NYw9n0/7 No.898187 Reply
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I can't wait for fly agaric to start popping up here. Of all the mushrooms, it still remains my favorite, even over psilocybin species.

Probably mostly for all the lore and mystery around it, and it's also gorgeous. Such a warm and empowering feeling you get from it.
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Nigel Brengerfoot - Sun, 08 Sep 2019 15:49:09 EST fs9+iAg3 No.898231 Reply
I've acquired about 15g of these dry, saving them for a rainy day. today I injured my back quite badly at the gym so I think I'll have to take some time off work. is it reasonable to enjoy these mushrooms alone in my room while injured?
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Albert Tillinghall - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 01:46:44 EST IUgqsTKl No.898299 Reply
You guys should be aware though, there are two other amanitas that might be confused with the muscaria.
Rubescens, that's actually not active/poisonous and supposedly damnedly delicious (have some used mushroom books, where prior owner had marked them according to tastiness, marked this one 10/10 super delish, book says it's amazing fried on toast)
Second one is Pantherina, described as more poisonous than Muscaria (don't know if that means different or same poisons but more potent). More brown than muscaria, but has been mistaken for Rubescens and lead to deaths.
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Albert Tillinghall - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 01:54:31 EST IUgqsTKl No.898300 Reply
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Pic related, a Rubescens (Blusher in ENG apparently, because of the tendency of the meat to blush reddish).
If you're not aware of them you might mistake them for a Vintage Muscaria because it's almost alike just a bit deeper less bright colour.
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Charlotte Dartway - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 04:31:59 EST l9dGfjFi No.898301 Reply
>>897955
Drying these correctly is fine. They should turn brown. Unidentifiable to what
they looked like before. Munching pieces here and there with some beers may
kinda lift things up. kinda like small amounts of dxm, or whatever cough suppressant.

Here they grow in masses. The larger ones are more toxic. Some get pretty large. The hippies don't bother with them. If that says anything. But as poster said, a bit of all.
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Sidney Crirringbanks - Wed, 11 Sep 2019 11:22:09 EST NYw9n0/7 No.898309 Reply
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>>898299
Panthers have a bit more muscimol and ibotenic acid. So they would be potent.

I still prefer ingesting fly agaric because they're a bit more established. But with both the major toxin is ibotenic acid.
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Henry Gucklechere - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 05:26:16 EST LlCcz68O No.898333 Reply
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>>898301
>Munching pieces here and there with some beer
Read somewhere that carbonated drinks will reverse muscimol to ibotenic acid. Don't drink anything fizzly after eating dried amanitas.
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Cornelius Napperfark - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 11:50:08 EST E+jOHhKa No.899156 Reply
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Dare I say this might be the best thing for actually listening to music? Music sounds incredible with Amanita. San Pedro is also very good, but this is something else.
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Betsy Backleway - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 23:35:59 EST GRgM5JTz No.899176 Reply
Here's some recipe for a non psychoactive delicacy.
Take some amanita muscaria stems (they contain the least amount of muscimol/ibotenic acid).
Cut them into stripes and make them 2cm long.
Prepare a pot of boiling water with a good amount of salt.
Toss them in and let it boil for 20 minutes.
Toss the water away.
Add fresh clean water and boil for another 5 minutes.
Toss the water again.
Fry them in some oil in a pan.

You'll get a delicious non-psychoactive treat. But beware that this might not be 100% safe, so take it slow.
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Hamilton Gunderbury - Sun, 13 Oct 2019 00:30:16 EST qliH9paW No.899177 Reply
>>899176
That's pretty safe. No way any ibotenic acid will survive all that heat.
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Doris Bloshbanks - Sun, 13 Oct 2019 12:50:59 EST W2xcO2WF No.899185 Reply
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Can I dry this in the oven and store it untill saturday?
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Doris Bloshbanks - Sun, 13 Oct 2019 14:01:27 EST W2xcO2WF No.899188 Reply
Is it true that drinking your urine will give you better effects?
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Edwin Mennerkune - Sun, 13 Oct 2019 15:54:54 EST IUgqsTKl No.899189 Reply
>>899188
You piss out some good stuff, drinking it won't make anything better, but you'll reintake something that would otherwise be wasted. Dunno if redosing is any good on amanitas though.
Maybe you heard some hearsay twisted up, that was originally more that drinking the urine of somebody who ate amanitas is better than eating them yourself, cause that's something I've read. Drinking the piss of a human toadstool filter would mean less side effects, more clear ride.
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Hamilton Gunderbury - Sun, 13 Oct 2019 19:26:45 EST qliH9paW No.899191 Reply
>>899185
You can dry it in the oven and store it for years.
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Hedda Donnerspear - Mon, 14 Oct 2019 02:13:19 EST SGb+jINU No.899200 Reply
>>899191
Will oven drying harm them? Some bitch on youtube said you have to buy 100+ buck dehydrator or you'll fail. My oven can be set to 50celsius minimum and has a fanning setting. I've been drying psilocybin mushrooms that way and had no problems.
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Shit Pittwell - Mon, 14 Oct 2019 03:30:31 EST qliH9paW No.899201 Reply
>>899200
Not really, it works fine.

Fan dry them a bit first though.
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Martha Creshfield - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 07:37:03 EST GKKrldVq No.899217 Reply
I heard you can boil them three times, changing out the water each time, and enjoy a non psychoactive delicious mushroom

don't know much about the psychoactive effects though beside reading the "a man eat a muscaria" trip report
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stupid nigger - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:36:44 EST /1iZdQUa No.899229 Reply
>>897935
Are they any better than alcohol? Do they give some euphoria?
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Wesley Bonkinfuck - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:37:48 EST /1iZdQUa No.899230 Reply
Are they any better than alcohol? Do they give some euphoria?
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Molly Bammernit - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:08:36 EST kfiGoZKH No.899232 Reply
>>899230
Almost everything is better than alcohol (including being sober instead). Don't drink that shit regardless of beverage, amount or situation specifics. Ever.
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Edward Pundleham - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 21:03:47 EST ha9AIt78 No.899244 Reply
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>>899230
Yeah, I'd argue that they're safer in the long-term too.

There's euphoria, blurred vision (which I really enjoy) and some other visual distortions. And of course, vivid dreaming along with deep sleep.

Negative effects- sweating, nausea
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Edward Pundleham - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 07:05:39 EST ha9AIt78 No.899247 Reply
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>>899246
1) Stigma around the Amanita genus
2) Instances of children or elderly going into comatose states after ingesting a shitload
3) Nausea and sweating are associated with a lot of poison mushrooms, freaks people out
4) Possibility of damaging your brain if prepared wrong, probably best if teenagers don't start taking 20g of half-dried caps.

If you don't properly prepare them you can ingest a lot of ibotenic acid, which is a neurotoxin that can pass the blood brain barrier. It's actually commonly used to induce brain lesions in lab rats, so defintetly not something you want to ingest.

But you can get rid of the ibotenic acid with heat. The remaining compounds muscimol, muscazone and muscaridine do not cause damage to the liver, kidney or the brain, at least at average dose ranges.

So if you properly dry and heat them and don't drink any carbonated beverages, you're fine.

Someone here also recommended making a tea out of them to provide some extra heat (using below boiling point water) to kill any remaining ibotenic acid and I think that'd be another good safety measure.
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Albert Worthingstock - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 07:46:15 EST saGiTtQ5 No.899248 Reply
>>899247
How to dry them with an oven in one go? What temperature? I picked some and they started smelling of dead body after one day.
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Edward Pundleham - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 08:18:30 EST ha9AIt78 No.899249 Reply
>>899248
Make sure you use a basket or something when picking them, don't put them in a sealed container.

Dry them with a fan for awhile to get some of the moisture out then heat dry them at 170-200F until they are cracker dry.
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Nathaniel Bloffingbury - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:01:55 EST /1iZdQUa No.899250 Reply
>>899249
I guess that's the problem. I put them in a sealed plastic box.
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Awe' God !!Bwteoy2D - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 11:00:56 EST HEUd4PYQ No.899251 Reply
>>897935
The only true psy is classical seratonergic psys. If anything else is a classical psy, then we may as well call molly psy.

For me muscaria is nonvisual psy for the most part, but del and dis vibes are there to find as well.
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Isabella Semmleman - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:07:40 EST LvmVgJRD No.899258 Reply
>>897935
can you go berserk like the vikings if you eat them?
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Nathaniel Bloffingbury - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:24:04 EST /1iZdQUa No.899259 Reply
>>899258
Are you planning to take these mushrooms and be an edgelord?
Not sure tbh. Muscimol is considered to be a depressant.
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Isabella Semmleman - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:32:25 EST LvmVgJRD No.899260 Reply
>>899259
my edgelords days are far behind me. i just wanted to know if that was real or just a meme
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Isabella Semmleman - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:33:42 EST LvmVgJRD No.899261 Reply
>>899260
and i dont even have access to them (or any other mushroom as i live in a city(as far as a iknow))
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Isabella Muttingchut - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 21:46:31 EST qliH9paW No.899271 Reply
>>899261
What city? Amanita muscaria isn't picky, it'll pop up right outside an office building as long as the environment is right and it has a host tree.

That said, I wouldn't eat any mushroom that is near pollution.
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Henry Grimspear - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 13:28:06 EST DzOd5pYY No.899277 Reply
>>899271
it's a coastal desert city, with almost no trees unless they're Palms
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dddd - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 11:54:22 EST a7izNFt5 No.899300 Reply
This mushroom is not worth it. It feels like nasty case of alcohol poisoning, there's nothing pleasurable about it. It's not fun at all.
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Basil Dendleman - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 04:16:51 EST FDYa+ECH No.899307 Reply
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>>899305
>>899300
Or maybe he drank a carbonated drink after ingesting.

It's not for everyone though, it just doesn't sit right for some people. But if the nausea is overwhelming, you definitely got too much ibotenic acid.
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dddd - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 04:18:13 EST a7izNFt5 No.899308 Reply
>>899307
What are the positive effects that you felt from ingesting this mushroom?
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Basil Dendleman - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 04:32:47 EST FDYa+ECH No.899309 Reply
>>899308
Makes me feel like light with a warm feeling inside. The visual distortions are fun too.

The deep and sleep is also great. One time I woke up from an Amanita induced nap and felt so heavenly afterward, such a blessful state. I remember my dream had an intense sunlight effect, it was one of those perfect dreams. It was that day that made me really fall in love with it. Never experienced anything like that on any psychedelic.

It's also the only thing outside of cannabis that I take that isn't full-on psychedelic. So, it's a nice break type of thing that won't mess with my tolerance. Plus, they're free. It's just too great.
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Basil Dendleman - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 04:37:00 EST FDYa+ECH No.899310 Reply
>>899309
*a light feather
*deep and restful
*blissful

Whoopsie. Nb
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Frederick Wusslewill - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 15:31:41 EST LlCcz68O No.899600 Reply
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>>899309
Apparently Amainta Muscaria does not build tolerance at all.


>>899308
In my few low dose experiences, it felt like a warm white light energy residing within me. Deeper connection to nature and a fun, gentle and friendly consciousness(?) to hang out with. >>899309
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Hannah Murdcocke - Tue, 05 Nov 2019 07:14:19 EST rg7ykwHc No.899791 Reply
>>899600
Thats not true, there is some tolerance build. I've taken 5 caps a day for over a week and gradually became more tolerant to the negative effects such as the profuse sweating and discprdination. Each trip does seem to synergize with the previous one because only the positive effects increase.

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